RWBY Theory - The Different Worlds of RWBYs Universe (Volume 9) 

For vol 9, I predict it would be about everyone who fell into the abyss trying to navigate and find an escape from the unknown realm. With some characters fighting through some inner struggles that happened in vol 8 and certain dangers that lurk within the realm's forest. And there may be a subplot where the others in Vacuo try to make plans to prepare for Salem's next attack on Shade academy.

Okay I'm loving this theory. Rooster Teeth should just hire you as a write at this point. If nothing else, they need to be watching your videos writing copious notes!

I know I'm late to the theory here but I doubt CRWBY would write something this intriguing

Oh I have missed the RWBY theories. I'm glad to see them back.

If written correctly Norse mythology could explain a lot about the lore of RWBY. For example the wisdom from realm of the dwarves could explain the crazy weapons we see from the show. I think all the realms taking pity on Midgard or leaving behind gifts or wisdom could explain a few things; the weapons, creation of dust, the Faunus. This volume will be full of lore, explanations and character development. Hopefully it can serve as a training arc too. I mean they did fall into a world with two suns so I wouldn’t be surprised if there would be a Luke Skywalker reference or character in this season to train them. Ruby still can barely fight without her weapon but is getting better with using her eyes. Weiss is OP as it is but I miss when she used her sword as a…well…sword instead of a wand. Blake still can barely hold her own in a fight without support. Jaun has come far but his fighting ability is still lacking compared to everyone else and honestly I want him to be the one to finally kill Cinder. He’s gonna have some shit to work through bc he killed Penny so that’ll be two people he feels like he failed and let die. Maybe he’ll have some suicidal thoughts, maybe be tempted to stay in the realm of the dead due to guilt. And if nine realms would be too much to cover perhaps there could only be two but they are a mixture of the remaining 8. Alfheim, Asgard, Johtenheim, and Svartlheim could be the one world of light, life, knowledge and creation. And Helheim, Nifelheim, Musfelheim, Vanaheim (I apologize all for these misspellings) could make the one realm of darkness, death, power, and destruction. This would explain the gods origins and wouldn’t negate the narrative already set forth.

Hehe, 9 realms in Norse mythology and the next Vol is Vol 9 Funny

Not sure I’m willing to give RT enough credit to go with the “Nora is special” idea. But the visiting the realm of the dead…could be interesting

I think the visiting with the dead would be intriguing. Neo meets with Roman, Jaune meets with Phyrra, Ruby meets with Penny, Yang meets with Summer, and maybe Blake meets with Adam?

This Volume is going to be a blast. There is so much that is set to happen. What I am begging for is Summer Rose making an appearance in Volume 9 since a lot deserve to know if she's alive or not, some new enemies and a possible confession to Summer's past.

Nuckelavee is *not* a creature from Norse mythology, it’s from Orcadian mythology. Now, it is connected to Norse mythology, as it is believed that the Nuckelavee is derived from one of the many Celtic water horses, and some unknown Norse creature. We know close to nothing about actual Norse mythology, hence why a lot of it is so ambiguous I doubt this will come up in RWBY, but the Nuckelavee is a creature of water, specifically salt water. It would rise from the ocean to wilt crops and murder people. It’s only weakness was fresh water, and the best way to escape it is to cross a river.

I honestly love this theory and it would absolutely be awesome to see an Odin based character be Nora’s real dad in one of the other realms. Because we haven’t heard anything about Nora having a father, the only family of Nora’s that we know of is Ren, her friends, and the Mom that abandoned her when the Grimm attacked.

Speaking of the girl who fell through the world, I've said on a previous and I'll say it again. I think that tale is a reference or nod to Alice in Wonderland, since she fell through her world and ended up in another. Since this reference of Norse Mythology has been used since the beginning, I kind of got the feeling that the writers (including Monty) are trying to say to us that gods (if any really do exists) are just a species of super beings who have mastered the ability to create and shape life as they see fit. Oh and if anyone's interested, I recommend reading Norse Mythology by Neil Gaiman. Really good novel to read on things like Ragnarok and how Thor got his hammer (along with how he got it back from a frost giant who stole it, hence how Nora came to be).

Glad to see you back I enjoy your RWBY theories alot

Great video, your theories are always so interesting. Love it.

Idk much about Norse mythology but maybe those different worlds can be shown as parts of island since the tree is which connects those worlds. Or those parts will be mini versions of them and actual ones will be went with portals or something like that?

The brother gods remind me of Princess Celestia and Princess Luna from MLP FIM where Celestia was the favorite and Luna got jealous and became Nightmare Moon. (It gets more detailed and in depth)

The multiple realms theory might have some merit, the Vaults themselves could connect to a different realm each. I don't know if they'll encounter those who have died or not but if it's another race of people perhaps they could meet either elves, dwarves, and or plant based people. Like the Faunus but with plant traits instead of animal traits, aka the Flora.

One thing I remember from Norse mythology is that during Ragnarok even the gods will die, so that could help explain about why Salem is now looking to gather the relics. Because she has discovered how to kill the brothers.

Aside from the notes on Norse mythology I honestly don't think they would go the route of making Nora a frickin alien Nor do I think the God of light would give Ambrosius the power to allow humans to access the afterlife at all Plus I think it's worth pointing put that Ambrosius didn't create the actual space where the walkways were, or it would have disappeared entirely Just the doors and roads

Now, when I look at RWBY from a broader perspective, in terms of where the creators drew inspiration from to create individual characters and their threads, I begin to see that there is much more inspiration from Norse mythology than just Nora. I prefer to warn you right away that most of what I will write now is only my overinterpretation. So Nora is obviously Thor, and the tree in this new world may be some equivalent of Yggdrasil. Most probably heard or came to the conclusion that Ozpin might have been slightly inspired by Odin - to him Qrow and Raven in the form of birds provided information about Salem activities, just like Odin's two ravens (Hugin and Munin) brought him news from all nine realms. And now my overinterpretation begins. In mythology there is a figure of a god named Tyr, who in one of the myths lost one arm when it was bitten off by the great wolf Fenrir (Loki's son) - And Yang is quite a brave and militant girl whose hand was cut off by Adam - a faunus. Further, in mythology there is a famous figure of the great trickster - Loki, whose most famous ability was the ability to change shape including sex change - and in RWBY we have our beloved Neo who also has similar abilities and is very cunning and duplicitous. Just as Loki was not on the side of the gods or the giants, Neo did not cooperate with the protagonists, but she also was not completely on the side of the antagonists, causing problems for both sides. As for the Phoenix/Night's theory of the nine realms: Asgard, Wanaheim and Jotunheim together can be considered the land to which the divine brothers went. Why ? Well, vikings considered giants a race of gods like Aesir, after all, Loki is by birth a giant, but he is counted among the gods. In addition, the first Aesir, Buri, married Bestla, a giantess, so basically every God has some giants' blood in him. While this part of the Alfheim and Svartalfheim theory is possible and interesting, a small error has crept in here. Svartalfheim and Nidavelirr are the same land, inhabited by dark elves (the inhabitants of Scandinavia considered dwarves and dark elves to be the same race) while Helheim was not part of Niflheim, but a separate realm. Niflheim and Muspellheim existed before anything else, and it was out of the mists of Niflheim and the fire of Muspell that the first living thing emerged - the giant Ymir. It is rather doubtful that the Grimm come from Muspell as most of them have little to do with fire and it was mentioned that the god of darkness himself created Grimm. Personally, I think that they have more to do with the land of mists, because poisonous rivers flowed through Nifelheim, which could be compared to the Grimm River, which Salem used during the attack on Atlas, but as I mentioned - overinterpretation. Midgard is of course a Remnant and there is not much to add here. If I ever have an idea related to this topic, I will try to remember to edit this comment, but for the moment that's all. As I mentioned, it is only my overinterpretation and I understand if someone does not agree with it, so I encourage you to comment and discuss.

This is a nice theory especially about Nora. But I think the theory could fit Jaune better, we know Nora was abandoned by her mother in Mistral. But Jaune's backstory and where he lives has been ambiguous to the point that even his sister Saphron didn't even say where she and Jaune live. Even their older sister in red should've left home, but only Jaune and Saphron are living away. Despite everything, Jaune was the only character introduced that seems unfamiliar with remnant. Even to the point he didn't know what aura was despite his age.

I think there might be notable areas on the island that represent the nine realms and seeing everyone that died could make for some GREAT content. Grimm are seeing crawling out of the Goop perhaps it doesn't make them but it a portal from another realm like you suggest. I'd love to see the origins of the Grimm. TeamAliveTorchwick

Oh boy. Whenever there are realms or alternate realities in any medium, things start to get... weird.

I'm totally liking the artwork of your OC Seraph that you added at the end of this video.

If the Vanian (don't know how to spell it) is equal but opposite to Asgard, and the gods of Light and Darkness are, again, equal and opposite of each other... Wouldn't then they would be "gods" from each of those two worlds that simply came together in a mutual project?

If Jaune did visit the dwarves, he could either get Crocea Mors repaired or upgraded, or possibly even get a new weapon entirely. I doubt it would be the last one, but I think the first two might be possible. (Side note: Ruby would freak out if she visited this realm, as it's the blacksmith of the Gods. She'd be a kid in a candy shop.)

I hope there is a season 9... I enjoyed RWBY, mostly for the music, but the story was good too.

Yessss Phoenix this is such a juicy theory and I love it more than anything! A great birthday present to learn more about the realms I definitely think we'll be exploring

I saw a theory on tumblr about how those that fell could possibly return with, well changes, and that they are at the Shallow Sea Personally if I were to say what changes would happen to each character I'd go with: Ruby becoming some form of Dryad with a rose on her head that signals her mood/emotional state making it harder for her to hide her insecurities from those around her, or perhaps she gains the ability or knowledge of how to unlock magic, if only to see the nuclear fallout that would be Cinder and Salem seeing her perform a trick that cannot be explained by dust Semblance, Maidens, or even Ozma's gift Weiss could perhaps have patches of her skin crystalize or as the tumblr post that inspired me suggested her tears turn into dust as they fall I can't think of anything I'd like to happen to Blake in this context, though if they are at the Shallow Sea I could see Blake getting away unchanged due to already being under it's effect, kind of Yang could have the latent magic that was passed onto her by Raven ignited allowing her to turn into an Eagle or Phoenix Jaune could gain odd shaped scars over his body that smolder when he thinks of his regrets, a reference to his allusion Jeanne D'arc's death by burning at the stake I can't think of anything for Neo

I actually had a funny thought. I was watch Ben 10 Alien Force, specifically the episodes that featured Professor Paradox, the Ben 10 equivalent of the Doctor. And I thought; how funny would it be if Paradox just popped in and offered his assistance and then just brings Ben into this whole mess. I know it's extremely dumb, but it would absolutely be the really funny kind of dumb. So why did I comment here. Simple. In the Omniverse episode "And Then There Were None", Paradox uses a giant tree to help explain the Mulitverse Theory, Quantum Mechanics, and String Theory. And then I remembered "Hey there was a big tree at the end Volume 8." So yeah. That's where my brain went. Because of reasons not even I can fathom.

When you mentioned Niflheim, the first thing I thought of for some reason was the place where Salem usually resides and creates grim, but that wouldn’t make a lot of sense. I really hope Rwby puts in some kind of afterlife realm though because I really want to see an interaction between Jaune and dead Pyrrha 🤞

I don’t think Nora should be revealed to be a part of some kind of Magical race. I think its better if Nora is just a human who has worked hard to become as strong as she is, rather than someone who has just inherited most of her strength. While it’s kind of cool to have Nora be a part of some special race, I feel like it would make her a weaker character.

I mean technically there's a 4th afterlife called Fólkvangr but it's more of a norse only thing because it's made by Freya a goddess of war and death but also love and Beauty and its where half of the people who die in battle go and the other half go to Valhalla so there's a chance if they go to Valhalla or Fólkvangr that we could see pyyrha there cause she died in a battle against cinder so maybe but highly likely that's not gonna happen

As a Christian I believe that RWBY actually did a couple of things from the Bible. The end of humanity and it's second time around, much like Noah and the Ark. Perhaps RWBY takes inspiration from many religions and beliefs.

A few thoughts about RWBY: 1) I did mention to a friend that I would like to see Team RWBY eventually come back to the rest of the story with Aura, Semblance, and Weapons evolved and changed from what they were when they originally left. 2) Can you have some fun covering the RWBY - Justice League comic?

And of course, Ruby might encounter Summer, if the person in question is in fact dead.

I love everyone landed in the world where relics were made, but on a different continent to keep all the relics safe.

This chart is inaccurate. In all the sources I could find, Svartalfheim and Nidavellir are one and the same, Dark Elves being a synonym for dwarfs The nine realms being Midgard, Asgard, Vanaheim, Hel/Helheim, Muspel/Muspelheim, Niflheim, Alfheim/Ljosalfheim, Nidavellir/Svartalfheim, and Jotunheim Niflheim is the primordial realm of ice, Hel is the domain of the dishonoured dead But There is also a misty void between the realms, Ginnungagap, and a bonus location for the honoured dead in Vanaheim ruled by Freya, called Folkvanger

Remember Qrow telling the crew about the 2 brothers. The brother of Darkness created the Grimm

I think Ruby becomes more Sadness and depressed after the journey in the dimension.

It's stated the nuclkavee was created by salem(grafted them togather),and it's stated that the dark brother created the grimm. ON REMNANT!

If Pyrrha does show up again, Jaune shouldn't be the only one to talk with her. Ruby should as well since she tried to save her too. It was a very impactful death for her since she saw it and couldn't stop it.

Great video, I feel even more confident that the Fallen will encounter elves on the island which has been a theory of mine ever since Volume 8 ended. I also think they were the chosen race for the 4 relic spirits since they all have pointed ears.

I'm all for meeting Pyrrha again, but I really don't think she should come back to life. Not only would it go against the gods rule about bringing back the dead, but it will also undermine and undo the meaning of her sacrifice when she fought Cinder and the encounter Jaune had at the statue in Argus. Meet her again to give Jaune and the other closure, yes. Bringing her back to life, just to appease the "fans", no. I just don't see why and how some people can't accept her death. Also, I think all of the characters have all landed on the island, but on different parts of it. Each one of them will be on different parts of the island and have different encounters with past mistakes and regrets. Jaune with Penny and Pyrrha, Blake with Adam, Yang with Raven, Weiss with her family, Neo with Roman and Ruby with Summer, or something along those lines. Each one will encounter some personal stuff that will make them stronger. Or they could meet one other character and go through the island together. Ruby and Neo, Blake and Yang, Jaune and Weiss. Ruby and Neo will call a truce until they figure out how to escape, during which time Neo will change sides. Blake and Yang will encounter each other where they talk about personal feelings and confess to each other. Jaune and Weiss will meet and Weiss will help Jaune through his trauma of killing Pyrrha where she will discover her feelings for him. Kara said that this was her favorite Volume and we know she is a huge White Knight shipper, so that could be part of the reason. I think the World Tree will be the only way they escape the island by using the Bifrost. Oh, I've missed these theory videos

And here I am thinking that when they fell they went straight to the summer relic in Shade Academy in Vacuo. And here they are going to summon the God of the summer relic. I thought of this coz every relic in RWBY was in some place that it wasn't from Ramnent. And I also don't think that they will be able to meet this God coz they don't know how to summon it, but when they take the relic in their hand it will lead them straight to the academy where they will be trying to save all people from Atlas and Mental and their friends from the desert.

I think they'll go Back and forth from Vacuo and Wonderland. BTW,I like how you referenced the Avengers.

So. . . they’re not gods, they’re goa'uld! And continuing the pop culture references: If we’re getting multiple realms on a world tree with powerful yet fallable gods. . . okay what’s RWBY’s take on Vorinclex? Also, the Nuckelavee is from Orkney Isles folklore in Scotland. It draws from both Celtic and Nordic myth, but isn’t exclusive to either.

Jaune and Ruby with Penny. Jaune and Pyrrha. Weiss and Jaques. Blake and Adam. Neo and Roman. Ruby and Yang with Summer... that is, if she's dead. I really don't think she is. I'm not sure about the whole Nora being from another realm, but everything else was really interesting.

Ruby could also encounter Summer... If she's not a Hound already.

My 2 questions are - Will the relic of destruction and choice will be in these realms? - Will the 6 characters that dropped (plus penny's corpse) are going to be in the same realm as ruby or will they land in different realms and that they will meet up on that giant ass tree? (Kinda reminds me of there initiation where they land in different areas and that they will meet in one specific area)

I predicting this unknown location is Yggdrasil within the center of the universe containing all the nine realms including Remnant making 10.

This was a great video Phoenix!!!

This defintely makes a lot of sense, I would also say that its possible that Salem's lair is also another realm, probably a realm of darkness. But lots of characters like Emerald, Cinder, etc come and go from Salem's dominion (land with purple goop) so it could actually be on remnant. I was always confused about that

The big tree could possibly be Yggdrasil in our world and the location could be 💀 🏝, the legendary home of King Kong (if they will do a crossover).

Glad to see you back on the theory grind! I love the ideas you brought up for Nora and the elves, and I just realized that both Ambrosius and Jinn have elf-like ears, so maybe they could be related to that idea. As for one other thing about Norse mythology that could play into the Yggdrasil theory; there is actually a lake under the tree. This is where Odin sacrificed his eye in order to gain Wisdom. If there's something like that where RWBY is now, I could see it possibly relating to the relics, either the relic of choice (due to the aspect of "wisdom" and Oz saying he hid it differently) or the relic of destruction (particularly if your theory on the spirit of the sword being the lady of the lake is correct).

The only problem with Nora being from another realm is that Nora has a semblance. To my knowledge it's been implied that semblances are a leftover of the magic people used to have. So it would be something linked to Remnant specifically. Unless similar things (god of darkness destroying humanity) happened in other universes, which is possible.

Look Phoenix/Night I know you love RWBY but I'm getting tired of RWBY not only do I hate Ruby and Blake especially Ruby (Yang and Weiss are okay) cuz those two know how to make better decisions than Ruby does Ruby is a terrible leader she is not a good guy anymore she lies a lot lying to important people all this started because of her heroes don't steal from authorities they don't lie they don't attack people who don't listen to them if she had just told the truth to ironwood he would still be alive by now

It’s definitely gonna relate to Alice and wonderland. Unless I’ve forgotten someone, they’ve never done Alice in wonderland based characters which is weird because it’s a big fairy tale

One thing I'm hoping that happens is that Ruby finds the realm of the dead so she can talk with the silver eyed warrior that was the hound

If this is true… imagine the amount of fan fiction that will explode from this realization. xD

Maybe one of their other realms is Amphibia…….only true fans know.

Frankly, there being two different sets of gods can actually work, it could be that the Brothers are indeed Brothers but they are more like representations of two sides of the same coin. Cause the Asgardians are an aggressive warrior race who destroy, while the Vanir are a more peaceful warrior race who create instead of destroy (like cultivating farms instead of going out to take the food that they need from others).

Not sure why they made Loki an Ice Giant, he's a Fire Jotun so why change his element?

Well, technically the land of fire is more like a realm of Fire Giants and I guess also some form of demons. But the Fire Giants are the ones who call the shots.

The other world is Mata Nui from Bionicle, I mean think about it! >Island paradise >They fell from the sky like the toa >There’s two suns/planets Fite me

Just realized if true. It means our realm. Earth or Migard is there somewhere. After all the grimn have to be inspired or thought up by a possible realm one with imagination or nightmares

Hey I got a question for is neo actually Nora Valkyrie’s sister or what I would really like to know

Ruby is in Asgard lol Edit: Also had the idea that Ruby fell into Valhalla, and was going to use that as part of a fanfic.

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if the Land of the dead happens, please let Neo reunite with Roman one last time and have him tell her that red wasn't actually the one who killed him, and that it was one of the Grimm & also have neo confess to him cuz I want roman x neo to be cannon as they would be perfect for each other

If the realms all have different races of people. Would it be a stretch to say that the Faunus are from a different realms?

Or the Gods can be called 2 diffrent species related via something like adoption by some higher power

im gonna be honest i havent enjoyed the show too much in recent volumes but i still love the hell out of your theories. Also im not trying to hate on the show im just stating my opinion. have a great day peeps

Do you ever think that Taiyang will ever join them on their journey

I think im getting despread if Im going back to old theories 😭

Could Vanaheim be the realm where genius like Ambrosius and Jinn are? They are not quite gods, but they have a superior power

My biggest question about RWBY is how the Faunus came to be? There are stories about the Gods of Animals who seems to have created them to end a war between humans and animals? If that is the case, we never saw him or her on the show and he or she might still be around.

I thought there was a sandwich in the thumbnail...

Oh god , if this theory is true then the story just got even more complex

I doubt that we will see penny if that happens because she is a part of winter

Team RWBY and those fell, could be in the Realm where the Gods were born. Also hoping to see Dragons and Crazy Dragon Hunters in that realm🐉

Isn't this just that Beach Island Location? Forgot the name.

Do not have Adam getting redeemed there if it is the Land of the dead.

i think neo moslty a orpgan and well meet her parents

I think it's where the sword of destruction is

What if they try to bring back one person? Who would it be?

This is also related to turtle island

Watching this video made me understand Sword Art Online from maybe 40% to 100%. I was also waiting for a Miraculous reference, but Im glad there wasn't one because that just would have been more on my brain 🤯 But the fact that you had to learn 9 different Realms/Races and Norse Mythology, 👏 for effort and we appreciate it!

They ended up on destiny Islands

Something just came up. A theory if you like. What if whilst in this alterative realm, Ruby and the others will either find themselves without their aura or Semblance, or they their abilities become amplified? I thought of this since Remnant was stripped by the gods of or had its source of magic broken down to dust and auras.

Yang into darkness blake into light Weiss into fire

5 bucks says all those people who fell off prior to team rwby survive but will be fonder for the creatures on the island namely the gigantic six legged starfish

Interesting theory

9 realms...volume 9......; I'm just saying, seems to line up. Edit after watching: Okay hear me out; what if they make a reference to that one myth where the man attempts to bring his wife from the dead but fails (I'm aware its not originally Norse, I believe its either Greek or Japanese mythology). I would really like to see something like that happen if we visit the rwby universe equivalent of "hell". Also since I saw someone else mention it I hope we do get to see what happened with those in Vacuo; for plot sake. I doubt they would straight up not show us...right??

If I may ask, do you have some idea of when SRPH will continue?

And I REALLY WANT TO!

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Team rwby eill be able to comevack to the overworld by using raven's semblence. Raven uses her semblence to find yang, hopefully all of them are together if that actually happens

9 relms 9 or more episodes.

When you mention asgard and vanaheim what if the brother of light was from vanaheim (or what ever the RWBY name of it) and the Brother of "Dark" is from asgard (or what ever the RWBY name of it) that could be a possibility