Ryan Clark & Dan Orlovsky GET HEATED debating Josh Allen’s loss to the Chiefs | Get Up 

Ryan Clark: "I don't believe that Josh Allen is the reason this team lost. Do you know what the greats are, the reason their teams win" Quote of the day!! 🙌🙌

I appreciate Ryan Clark for being the only one in the media to hold Allen accountable for his 900th playoff loss.

Lmao I’ve never seen people make as many excuses for a QB like they do for Josh Allen. He had every opportunity to take this game and win it at home!!! He was gifted a dropped pick and a recovered fumble! As well as 7 pts off the board on the bone head running play that was fumbled through the end zone! 😂 cmon man!! He played hero ball when he did not need to!

Ryan clark took these boys to school today. Standing ovation!!!👏🏿

It’s crazy cuz if Lamar lost that game the same way it would be a whole different narrative lol..the media loves Josh Allen

"If Allen was playing at home with the 'bills mafia' behind him it would have been a different game." Words to lose by.

“Smoke your stats at your house” is HILARIOUS

When RC said "he's not the reason they lost, but the greats are the reason you win." The debate was over.

RC is smoking them in this discussion lol. Rex Ryan literally says "He's done everything but win." Which is the point of the game. To win the game. 😂😂

THANK YOU RYAN CLARK FOR BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE QB TALK!!!!Keep the exact energy!

This is ridiculous. Josh again is getting more credit for losing this game than Pat gets for winning. Amazing.

Man if Josh Allen had two mvps , two super bowls , two Super Bowl mvps, 3-0 in the playoffs vs the Chiefs and made it to six straight conference finals, we wouldn’t be debating or saying it’s a coin flip

Man, I thought that Nick Wright over exaggerated how much the media sucks off Josh Allen but this is really telling. Crazy to watch in real time

Could you imagine Lamar losing at home like that when everyone is saying, "If you can't beat this team now, then you never will."? They wouldn't be talking about how great Lamar is. Man would've been crucified.

Finally someone is holding these QBs accountable and on the same level had this been Lamar losing o man the media would’ve had a field day today.

Ryan straight cooked Dan 😭 absolute best segment I’ve seen on the show in a long time.

Brady's advice is haunting Allen: "take the checkdowns...make it easier...dont always do the big plays"

RC is killing their arguments

None of the other three quarterbacks that lost this weekend is getting excuses but Josh Allen. . That's ridiculous !!!

The way the media coddles Josh Allen is crazy

I've never seen a more perfect takedown of the Allen loving media than RC did in the last minute of this clip. Beautiful. Keep being real RC!

The fact that this whole segment is about Allen and not mahomes, who WON, is just wild!

I absolute love these match-ups between RC and Dan O. Best combo of analysts anywhere. And RC is right - the media has been so desperate to annoint the next star quarterback that they will overlook anything. Almost all of sports media was campaigning for the Bills to win.

They would NOT DEFEND Lamar or Dak if they were in this same situation

Thank you Ryan Clark! I’m getting tired of all the excuses for Allen after every season ending in failure

The real rivalry is Mahomes-Burrow not Mahomes-Allen

Ryan hit em with "You having an unnatural allegiance to losers is not like you"... LMAO

Josh Allen had no problem scoring when the game started. Running up and down the field. BUT when it mattered most Josh Allen couldn't get it done! Stop making excuses! He's the leader of that team so it's on him! 💯💯💯

Josh Allen is the media darling. Every year they pick Bills to go all the way. Ryan Clark had to remind people to talk about the WINNING QB. Mahomes has neen let down by his WR's ALL year..and STILL got back to Championship. That's greatness.

The argument is "One day Josh Allen will have a lucky day." 😂

THANK YOU RYAN CLARK!!!!💯💯💯 IT'S ABOUT TIME SOMEONE AT ESPN HAD THE COURAGE TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THIS NONSENSE!!!!

The way Dan defends Josh Allen is admiring hahaha

“It sucks that someone has to lose!” OH PLEASE 🤣 they wanted Buffalo to win so bad

Media wants Josh Allen to be elite so bad. Every year they hype him then when he loses they still hype him. How manys years now??

Love seeing Rex laughing because he knows Ryan is right 😂🤣😂🤣🤣

They make more excuses for Josh Allen coming up with Ls than they ever do for any other QB.

The worst part is Dan ADMITTING he wouldn’t do the same thing for mahomes but he doesn’t see the problem lmaoo

I've never seen people so hard pressed to give out a consolation prize. Appreciate RC for taking them to task

Ryan is absolutely correct! You have to go out and win these games if you want to be considered one of the greats. Period!

I can’t believe they talked about this dude losing for a whole segment.🤦🏽‍♂️

Josh Allen also fumbled in the biggest moment and got lucky the Bills recovered it.

The media so desperately want to put Allen on par with Mahomes. The bias is obvious

Ryan is spitting🗣️100% FACTS🤣😂

Ryan Clark is right we give more excuses to Josh Allen than anybody else. he had the ball in his hands and he didn’t get it done but it’s not his fault they lost. He just wasn’t the reason that they won. The all-time greats are guys that you can rely on to be the reason that you win those big games. So it’s not his fault. He’s a fantastic player. He’s just not the type of guy in those all-time moments who is gonna win the game no matter what like Patrick mahomes

“I don’t care, it does not matter that he played well. What matters, is that he’s at his house.” 🔥

Thank you RC for putting these apologists in their place

Ryan Clark a real one 😂😂 he setting the tone, he knew Dan was gonna shield Josh and coddle him. When at these moments CRITICISM WILL MAKE HIM BETTER.

In the words of Ric Flair, "to be the man, you got to beat the man!"

Josh fumbled the ball and was lucky our player was dumb to try to scoop the ball instead of jumping on it. Mahomes made no mistake and Josh folded during the pressure. He had three opportunities in the 30 yard line to make a touchdown or get a new first set of downs but he failed.

Saying Josh was the best player on the field is freaking insane man.

Never seen someone get so many brownie points for losing to someone else and that's exactly what happens with allen losing to mahomes. Dude can never be anything more than a statistical fantasy player until he wins on the field in real life.

Ryan Clark shut everybody up at 5:15 😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥

I’ve never see so much credit given to a great player for losing.. this is weird now

the glazing of allen is CRAZYYY

Had the roles been reversed, and Mahomes was with the ball, down by 3, it would be a TD, not a FG attempt. That's true greatness.

“The two most talent quarterbacks ever…” Whoa whoaaa. Mr. Dan “out the back of the endzone” Orlovsky is sitting right there.

I swear Josh Allen is the only guy that can constantly lose in the playoffs and still have people cape for him, every other qb it’s about wins and Ls but with Josh it’s “oh but he played so well”

🤔They spent a whole hour talking about a LOSING quarterback Josh Allen. I'm a Raven fan for life but ex-Steeler Ryan Clark was PREACHING TRUTH!!!!

The excuses they make for Allen are incredible 😢

What matters is that he is at his house! 🤣🤣🤣 Love that line!!

The Chiefs missed more clear scoring opportunities than the Bills. It’s really silly to say Josh was let down as if the Chiefs did not give away the ball twice. Chiefs could’ve run away with the game in the 2nd or 3rd quarter

As a Chiefs fan, this is why RC a real one, we all tired of the “well Patrick won… but HOW GOOD IS JOSH ALLEN” give my man the respect he deserves

This was GREAT discourse! I loved listening to all of them, I sure couldn't argue with any of them! Awesome!

Facts RC.... thank you. It's disgusting the way they treat josh allen.

everytime the bills beat the chiefs in the regular season its always about how great josh allen is, then as soon as they get wiped in the playoffs its about the team not being good enough lmao.

Thank you RC for calling out the glazing 😂😂

NEVER HAVE I HEARD SO MANY EXCUSES FOR JOSH ALLEN! THE GREATS FIND A WAY TO WIN IN BIG GAMES WHERE THE PRESSURE IS ON THE MOST! ANOTHER GOOD POINT IS THEY MAKE THEIR TEAMMATES BETTER! AS GOOD AS ALLEN IS, HE IS NOT ON PATRICK'S LEVEL WHEN IT MATTERS THE MOST! THIS IS WHAT SEPERATES PLAYERS LIKE JORDAN KOBE,, BRADY AND PATRICK FROM OTHERS! THESE GOATS DON'T MAKE EXCUSES, THEY MAKE THE DIFFERENCE TO WIN!!!

The story of the game isn't missed opportunities by the Bills, the Chiefs very clearly outplayed them the entire game. Buffalo was *extremely* fortunate it stayed as close as it did in the 4th quarter.

The disrespect for Mahomes is unreal. He was 74% completion percentage last night. He evaded the rush, made incredible throws, and won the game.

Patrick gets let down by his team sometimes but he seems to overcome 🤷‍♂️

That point that RC made at the end was 101% on point. When Josh Allen loses it’s always he was the best player on the field, it wasn’t his fault, all that nonsense. But when Patrick Mahomes loses in the exact same fashion, there is no excuses there. They want Josh Allen (a white qb) to be up there with Patrick Mahomes so bad it’s ridiculous. At some point they got to understand that he is not on that level. Keep that same energy every time.

Even Rex Ryan knew Ryan was dropping facts!

Sean McDermott thought they where making a movie giving Damar Hamlin that fake punt 🤣

This is why people hate Josh Allen. Thank you RC for speaking for the people!

I swear to God I didn't know what the final score of this game was I would have sworn Buffalo won. We're praising Josh Allen and barely talking about the quarterback who did win and who played a phenomenal game

Ryan Clark a savage 🤣

Just here to remind people that Mahomes beat the Bengals, who blew out the Bills in the divisional round, on one leg while throwing the ball to practice squad receivers like Marcus Kemp. This was an awesome game, both QBs were killing it, but Allen needed to find a way to win and he didn't.

Keep that same energy like you do with the rest of the quarterbacks, Dan. Thank you RC for calling it like it is. Dan Orlovsky has always been on Josh Allen's nuts about he is the best quarterback but like RC said, when it matters the most he doesn't deliver. They went into your house and beat you.😊

Thank you RC!!!!! Finally someone has the guts to say something… “if you’re not first… you’re last”

Thank Clark 💯 correct about Allen. Those 3 passes before that FG were unnecessary. He went for a TD throw twice when he had a man wide open underneath

I want everyone watching this video, to give R.C a thank you for standing up against those Josh Allen apologists. Can you even imagine if that was Lamar Jackson who won a MVP. We need to call these people out, look at the end how the host go out of his way to squeeze Josh Allen great. THANK YOU R.C

As a packers fan, I remember so many instances where Aaron Rodgers played great games and was let down by the defense and the media crushed him for not “Stepping up” every single time. RC is right the greats find ways to win great games and don’t get excuses made for them. The romance between the media and Josh Allen needs to be studied.

Seen a video of Brady and Allen and Brady explaining how Allen doesn't listen but essentially sometimes he should learn to just throw to an open guy instead of playing hero ball. That is his problem and although he still played good overall, when it counted he missed crucial throws.

You know Rex Ryan, Greenberg, and Dan Ovlosky were rooting for Josh Allen and the Bills to win against Mahomes. Is it a race thing? 🤷🏼🤔 But it is amazing how many excuses they provided for Allen. Josh did not have a completion of over 10 yards in the last 3 Bills drives. It is amazing to watch guys like Rex Ryan bow down and praise Brady, as if he were a God. But they constantly root for Mahomes to fail. But he breaks their hearts again and again. Also, it’s pitiful that Greenberg tries to discount Ben Rothlisberger’s greatness. Big Ben made the plays when they needed to be played. He had the 3rd most fourth quarter comebacks ever, and the 2nd most game winning drives ever.

They killed Lamar all last week for his previous playoff record but Josh losses repeatedly at this stage and is still called great? C'mon Bro. DO & Rex tripping.

The way they play the “what if” game for Josh Allen and no one else is crazy. Lamar and Pat would never get this extra glazing

I hope I can someday find someone to love me as much as Dan Orlovsky loves Josh Allen

Ryan Clark dropped a triple double on these fools in this segment

So when are they going to mention all the points KC defenses have given up in years prior but KC still won?

Completely agree with RC. Back in 2022 Playoffs Josh Allen with the #1 Defenses loses to Pat Mahomes with 13 sec left and the #1 Defense. We dont hear people talk about how great Mahomes is but how great Josh Allen is. Josh Allen needs to be held accountable. Hes the next Phillip Rivers.

Background on "superstar" Ryan Terry Clark (born October 12, 1979) is an American former professional football player who was a safety in the National Football League (NFL). He played college football for the LSU Tigers, and was signed by the New York Giants as an undrafted free agent in 2002. Clark also played for the Pittsburgh Steelers and for the Washington Redskins. He won a Super Bowl ring with the Steelers in Super Bowl XLIII, and made a Pro Bowl in 2011.

The blaming the defense in defense of Josh Allen is wild, how great do you expect your defense to perform when they're on the field the entire game? This recent loss to the Chiefs is the ONLY exception for the losses the Bills have suffered during Allens tenure as starting QB for the Bills. Time of possession plays a HUGE role in the playoffs especially going against elite QBs like Mahomes and Burrow because you don't want those guys taking control of the game and its pace. The playoff loss to Cinci: Bills TOS- 26:06, Bengals TOS- 33:54. The 2022 playoff loss to the Chiefs: Bills TOS- 27:37, Chiefs- 36:38, The 2021 Playoff loss to the Chiefs: Bills TOS- 28:51, Chiefs- 31:09. YES you can say the defense isn't getting off the field quick enough to give their team TOS but good luck like I said against other elite QBs like Mahomes and Burrow who are very good at managing the game and the clock. The Bills punted the ball 4 times compared to Cincis 2 in their playoff loss, in 2021 against the chiefs they punted 3 times compared to KC 1 time, in 2022 playoff loss to KC the Bills punted 4 times compared to KC 2, in the recent playoff loss to KC the Bills punted 2 times compared to KC 1 time. I'm not here for the excuses anymore and Ryan Clark is right, he's not the reason they're losing the games, but he is contributing as to why they haven't won those games. In every game Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes has won in the playoffs they led in TOS and every game they've lost in the playoffs they did not...so don't tell me it's an overinflated irrelevant statistic when its clearly not. Stop the excuses for Allen, I like the guy but get realistic.

I love Clark's face after the TD to INT ratio Ryan gives..."except behind Patrick Mahomes". Like duh that is what Clark is trying to tell them to prove his point - Mahomes is on another level.

The excuses they use for Allen are insane. They'd never say this for Dak or Lamar

Why talk about the 3&9? He fumbled the ball for an easy TD on the last drive, which he was not part of recovering He threw a pass directly to Sneed who had a clear path to the house, that a KC defender (McDuffie) had to save him from an INT

and the Josh Allen love continues. Nobody can get more love out of losses than this guy. Next year he'll be the MVP favorite for this loss (similar to the last time he lost to Mahomes). Other players might face some criticism for almost costing his team the game with a silly fumble or for throwing a forward pass when you're 8 yards past the line but not Josh! No one has ever been more let down by his teammates than Josh. ridiculous.

I think Dan is in love with Allen at this point he doesn’t see a thing wrong with the guy lol

Josh Allen can do no wrong

Josh gettin’ some of the Lamar Jackson love from RC. This is the incredulous standard that they hold Lamar to but no one else. Everything is put into its proper context for Josh but “ it is what it is” when you speak about Lamar. “He can’t win like this.” “Running QB will never make it to the Super Bowl” “He is inaccurate “ Yadda yadda yadda about Lamar but this is actually true about Joshy boy.😂 Cancun on 3!….1…2…Goodnight Bills Mafia

What about when the defense came up with a massive forced fumble into the endzone casuing a touchback and putting the ball back into josh allens hands to give him a chance to win?