3700x was $50 cheaper for me and I could buy it immediately, so I'm glad to see that most things are relatively close. I'm also happy to have the extra cores for smoothness.
The days of buying stuff immediately seem to be over unfortunately 😭. I have a build ready to put together all I need is Ram & a GPU. The gpu ima have to wait for.
I decided to go with the 3700x because It was actually available and on sale for $280 on Black Friday. I know it isn't as fast as the 5600x but I play at 1440p/4k so the gap is even closer and I prefer having the extra cores and threads for multitasking. Can't go wrong with either CPU though.
@@Jacobvb11 Yeah I know. I bought my 3070 on EBAY but I bought my 5600x on EXTREME PC. It was available for a day and an half. THe 5800x was available for 4-5 days as well.
I'm using an older Ryzen 7 2700 and I've been pretty happy with it. I might upgrade to a newer CPU in a couple more years. Hoping they'll keep supporting X370 motherboards on AM4 a bit longer because I dig my board.
Use the same cpu. I'm starting to feel the need upgrade as I've been experiencing low gpu utilization in most of the games I play like Hell let lose, Rider's Republic and a few other games. Utilization hovers around 50% and even drops to high 30s in some heavy parts, the stutter is real. To be fair I got the cpu for bargain in 2019 and set to upgrade this year 2022, prices are still shit though so I'm probably gonna have to hold a lil bit longer, and then I'm gonna get which ever's best for gaming compatible with the b450.
@@visrupt Yeah, It hasn't bothered my performance any. My games run fine & my RX 580 gpu is chugging along just fine, especially since AMD released FSR. Gave this old card of mine a little bit more life.
@@visrupt same, i used to run it at 3600mhz oc on stock cooler, now i think i degraded the sillicon a bit and run it at stock boost (3350-3400) to be safe and it's a real bottleneck even for a 1060 6gb which is not at all a powerful card as of now. I might upgrade to either 3700x or 5600x
I bought a 3700X open box with the prism cooler for £184 inc delivery. Really happy with the performance. Coupled it with an Asrock B550m mobo and 32gb of 3200mhz crucial ddr4 lpx ram
Great video thanks. I think the biggest problem with the older Zens was the fact they had the L3 cache in smaller chunks than Zen 3 CPU's. If you got a CPU with 6 cores the performance hit was real enough you noticed the FPS drops when bench testing games and most other stuff as well. With Zen 3 this problem was fixed with the single chunk of cache. I guess it only 3 tries before seeing that was a real problem that needed to be addressed and besides that it was another tick on the box to allow for some of that 19%-20% IPC uplift on Zen 3.
Got my 3700x about 3 months ago still going to keep it some games there is a advantage with the 5600x but I edit and do other software related stuff so I am happy with it
@@nickymlak1189 Yep 1440p the difference is a few percent for a lot of games. There's a few where you can get maybe 10% and I think two where it's 25%!! But from memory the 3700X was still over 100fps anyway so meh.
@@JonathanS89 I'd love to if that was the case. The problem here is the insane shipping costs if i manage to find great deals outside of my small little country (Latvia)
@@JonathanS89 But that's fine. Imma wait for some stock of 5600X's to show up next year and then i'll start from there to gather the necessary parts for me and my needs🙌 - school, gaming, 3d modeling (3d modeling is really rough on 2c/4t Intel processor 😂)
@@luckgrip252 5600X is a great CPU, maybe the gpu can be used in some of your software to boost performance. I went with a 5900x to save some money since the video editing software I use can use nvidia graphics cards to boost render times
I would have gone with the 5, 5600x, only thing is there were none available when i was looking. I went with the 7, 3700x that i found at $280. The slight differences were less important for me since I'm coming from a fx 6350x. 3 potatoes wired together would be an upgrade so either of these is a huge improvement.
I want to do CAD and gaming primarily, with some rendering and video editing on the side, so I’m hoping to get a 5600x to maximize single core performance at a pretty reasonable price. Sure, rendering and video editing could benefit from more cores, but 6 is honestly plenty because I don’t do either of those tasks enough to justify at least $150 more for a 5800x or better
Perfect. Ill look into getting the 5600x then, for the same reason you mentioned - it may be a tad slower in the workload application tests, but its gaming performance is superior. Thanks, just what I need
Any of you techy guys know which one would be better for video editing? I'm not a gamer but my editing software is very CPU heavy. Any advice appreciated
Would pick the 3700x, if you want the mileage of productivity and smooth workflow for video editing. Yes, the 5600x could do that but mostly video editing apps utilizes more cores and threads. So the 3700x is faster a bit in production workloads though it still depends because some workloads uses single core performance but i digress and pick the 3700x because it is almost ahead in production workload compared to the 5600x.Though if you are just playing games the 5600x is far better choice.
I placed a backorder for the 5600x three weeks ago, and I ordered a 3700x yesterday with an ETA of next week. At this point, I'll keep which ever comes first :)
Been looking at this scenario for the past week. I am trying to upgrade my rig for the first time in 8 years (4th gen I7) and my rig is really starting to show its age and was planning on going with a 5000 series but i cannot find one in stock at all online. Sadly we do not have a Microcenter in this state so..... I have been looking at the 3000 series as I was hoping to pull the trigger on parts on Black Friday or Cyber Monday. Now if I could find a 3080 or 3070 but that's proving just as difficult. Great video thank you!
That's cool! I was about to get 3700X couple months ago, but didn't get one because of not enough money for other components, i would still be happy with how it performs. But at the end of the day, new tech came out, next year i'll look forward for upgrading my Gaming rig slowly but surely. ;D Have a great weekend, and also have fun playing some games w/ friends, working on projects that require these sweet 8 cores and 16 threads :)
I upgraded from an intel 6600k to the 3700x sometime last summer , and i don't regret it one bit . Especially because i got it for like 70 bucks off and i got the division 2 with it as well ( a game i was planning on buying anyways). My 6600k lasted for quite a while and was a great cpu, but i think the 3700x will last longer because of the core count the speed isn't great but it still performs extremely well. We'll have to see how devs utilize cpu cores going forward with the consoles having the same core count and better architecture.
am in the same boat hear but i doubt you have any thing in stock before mars april maj, thats 2-3 months and am on 1600 now with mb x370/ gpu5700xt and its bottleneck witch is a prob in some games like ac valhalla red dead online me on 1080p in apex it run really good and meny other titles, but i waited now for 3 months already and now the ryzen 7 3700x with a good cooler stock is in for around 3000e and 3700 i nead to buy sec cooler and thats 280e so not really worth it so the way is not clear to me:/ 5000 series is gona take ages before you get it hear and then i have to spend money on x5 b5 mb card to and thats another 300e so prob gona stick to the r5/3000+ and atm r7/3700x is in stock for around same price range
Though both look nice, I would go for neither as I am very happy with my 2700X, which I bought for $130 at MicroCenter during last year's Black Friday Sale.
Great video! I'm just now trying to get a parts list together for an AMD build. I want something that is a considerable improvement over my i7-4790k. I'm not sure what's the best value. Of course I'll be reusing my gtx1070 until gpus are in-stock and not raided by bots.
@@luiszidane2966 i’ve got this same set up as well. my i7 4790 has performed amazingly for 5-6 years now but just wanted to upgrade to something new for this decade. just today i ended up going with the R5 5600X. pairing it with 32GB of DDR4 3600 and my old GTX 1070. if i remember, i’ll be sure to update you with any benchmarks and stats i run once it’s built. :))
Watching this after i already built my pc with the 3700x.... Gotta say, i dont feel like I'm missing out on anything. I like feeling like i have the extra headroom for more cpu bound workloads. But im sure I woulda been happy either way
I feel like those extra cores and threads will cause the 3700x to age better in the long run. In fact, the new consoles use what's essentially a downclocked 3700x!
@@samfisher3336 it means nothing NOW, but as games continue to better support more cores and threads, as will need to happen in order for them to take advantage of the consoles' 8c16t CPUs, those extra cores will make a difference
I’m building my first pc atm. And with all the shortages I should have just got a pre built. But I bought a 7 3800x. Mainly because it’s the only thing I could find in stock that wasn’t a sky rocketed price.
Prices are crazy at the moment. A few weeks ago I got a brand new 2700X for £156 with an ebay voucher (reducing it from £170), now they are up to £200 with no voucher. Looking forward to next year when supply of the new CPUs and GPUs increase which will force down the price of the old parts.
@@Saaaaab I'm signed up with like 3 stock trackers to alert me when it's available. So far I haven't even been able to get this thing in my cart. Hoping it takes weeks and not months but wish me luck man 😂
One thing you got to include in the comparison is the cooler that is included. The cooler that comes with the 5600x is puny and won’t overclock well at all. The one with the 3700x is bigger. I would probably recommend most people get the newer hardware however I bought my 3700x when they were released about a year and a half ago and I would only Bother upgrading to something bigger personally.
I went from an r5 3600 to the 5600x, and let me tell you, at first I was like $160 to $300!? But then I installed it and it blew my doors off, my FPS skyrocketed paired with an rtx 3070 2k 165hz. Not only did the chip run way faster, alot of microstutters have disappeared, this may have something to do with the updated zen architecture and the infinity fabric changes. On a side note, the 5600x also ran 5c COOLER!
Back near the end of September, I was able to get the 3700x for 269.99 which was a total steal from the 329.99 it's normally at, though not many people are lucky to have a Microcenter near them.
Great video to do Danny. VG topic to look at and something I was considering doing to upgrade my HTPC with. The prices atm here in Australia 🇦🇺 are no different really due to COVID. Sure Ampere GPUs are way overpriced here. But parts in $USD atm are more in line with what we pay here equivalent in AUD so it’s good to see the US getting more like rest of the world prices. Love you content thou Danny. Always interesting and not mainstream high end reviews like a number of other channels. You offer more diversity in your content and look at more real world user content which is welcome change.
I just upgraded to a 3700x from an i5 6600k. Bought it from a workmate (who upgraded to a 5900x) for £205 so good price! The extra cores come handy since I work with lot of VMs.
Save Time With My Conclusion Watch 8:33 and Prefer Ryzen 5 For Gaming But Ryzen 7 if Rendering and Editing Tasks. One Last Thing - If You're on a tight budget then make sure to buy which one costs you less without thinking too much.. Both of them have just minor differences in performance.
Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition after 10 years still keeps on going. (sadly some of the newer games are using technology that the 965 can't run, so I'm looking for a new processor but still is a great processor)
Great video! I bought the 3700x because that's what was available... at $300. I figured 8-core at only 65w and coupled with a RTX3070 GPU, it's a winner. Something you didn't mention in the video is that both utilize only 65w. I think 65w is great for air-cooled builds. I'd be interested to know the difference between idle and full capacity temperatures. Mine runs at 40-42C at idle, and under max stress, hit 82-84C.
In April of 2019 off Amazon .I bought a AMD Ryzen 7 1700 $169.99 (at the time same price as R5) , Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB $119.99 XFX Radeon RX 580 GTS Black Edition $219.00 GIGABYTE B450 AORUS PRO WIFI $129.99 Patriot Scorch 512GB NVMe M.2 PCIe $79.99 Corsair CX Series 550 Watt 80 Plus Bronze $59.99 . Didn't really play much AAA - generally play the older games I couldn't growing up but wanted something I could play AAA at a decent resolution and FPS (will it run Crysis though?), and was only planning on upgrading RAM to 32gb (which I have yet to get around to) and no problems with the RX 580, till early this year. I play World Of Tanks the most, and the RX580 overheats like a mofo occasionally shutting down the pc and even when not on load my monitors will flicker on and off randomly. Using one HDMI and the DVI port - 2x Dell 27 inch. Trying to get my hands on HDMI to DP cables, and hopefully that will solve my monitor issues. I don't think I've ever seen my CPU go over 30-40% unless I'm doing some random video editing/compression. Will probs get more SSD 2.5 storage as prices are really good for 1TB and up and might upgrade the M.2 as well. I cross watched Tech Deals, JayZTwoCents, Paul's Hardware and a few BitWit vids as well to get the best value config for what I do, and my PC is still overpowered. Whether I like it or not my PC has to last between 5-8 years with minimal (big ticket) upgrades.
@@AJ-vc9dn Why? 6800 XT runs 99% utilization in modern games. I see little to no cpu bottleneck on 1440p ultra, buttery smooth gameplay on every single game I've played this year.
@@Herbertti3 Really? my 1700x is only pulling out ~60 fps 1440p with watchdogs no matter what graphics settings I use. Literally low-high settings has same fps, which means cpu bound right? Running 3080 fyi
@@GuagDiggly I ended up upgrading to 3700X because cyberpunk 2077. First game that brought 1800X to its knees. Had dips down to 35-40fps which were rectified bt 3700X.
Excellent video, thank you for the effort Would also be great to see this comparison on a less capable graphics card like the 1080 Ti. Would be good to see how the processor demand compares. There are many comparisons using the 3080 and that tends to make up for less capable processors. The 1080Ti has a decent amount of RAM and would be a great card to compare to.
Solid choice going for a 5600x at the same rough price, I got a 3700x for 440 AUD almost at the start of the year with shipping so I'm pretty happy with that, couldn't wait any longer on an aging i7 860
The answer is you should probably go with the newer and better generation assuming MSRP cost and availability. It's gonna give the average consumer superior performance for the same price. Chances are if you need more than 6 cores you need more than 8 cores.
I'm getting the 3700X for 200€ with cooler included. I'm planning on holding onto it for as long as possible and then going straight to the Ryzen 7 6xxx generation on the same motherboard. I'm so excited!!! This will be my first Ryzen build and I'm upgrading from an i5-4590
Most games don't even use more than 4 threads. Single thread speed is far more important and that's where the 5600x shines with lower latency, higher clocks, better IPC and higher bandwidth on the motherboard (plus SAM when you have a 6000 series card). For online gaming especially it makes sense to go for 5000 and not the 3000 series.
Considering some of the performance of Ryzen 5 comes from RAM clocks, it would be interesting to see what happens when you overclock the ram and test these two chips. Additionally, if you're going to be using a pcie4 m.2 drive on your new motherboard, you need a Ryzen 5 for it's 20 lanes cause 16 of them go to the graphics card and the m.2 needs 4. Anyway, I'm getting a Ryzen 59xx and a 6000 series GPU when they're available and reasonably priced, all other things have been purchased already.
I have a Ryzen 7 3700X CPU. I used the AMD Stock Cooler for the CPU. I did not overclock the CPU. But it gets a little overheat. Then I installed a Corsair iCUE H100i Elite Capellix Cooler. That made a big difference. But, It is still going heating around normally 50-60°c. When I'm playing games It is heating around 65-80°c. I do have a 1080p 60Hz monitor. The casing is a Corsair iCUE 465x, I have 3 extra 120 mm Corsair fans, all I have 5 120mm fans with the 240 radiator. When I disable the CPU Boost from the motherboard Bios it goes normally 40-50°c. I have created Manual RPM from the iCUE Software now because of the Fan Noise while working. I think it is useless to disable the Boost and use 3.60GHz Because, I can get a better performance when boosted to 4.40GHz. I want to know is 50-60-70 c is the Normal Temperature after CPU boost enabled? Is it abnormal heating? Please help me guys.
well, I just got myself a 3700X, to give my 2700X a well earned retirement. I have a 2070 super, so I did not have any bottleneck concerns like you could have with an Ampere/RDNA2 card paired with a Zen 2 chip. The 3700X was in stock, 20€ cheaper than the 5600X (that also was in stock very sporadicly, and not for long each time), and it happened that the BIOS for my motherboard (B450 Tomahawk was not ready yet to support Zen 3 (I guess it is for the Tomahawk MAX, but for the vanilla version, well it wasn't at the time of purchase)) In the end I do not regart getting the 3700X, it speed things up considerably when it comes to all the synthetic loads I had to do on my PC (the 2700X was fine in that regard tho, a bit lacking in the gaming department, definetly bottlenecking the 2070S), and I achieved a 4.4GHz all core overclock very easily at 1.25V, pretty sure I can push it to 4.5, though it is not needed. I guess the 3700X makes more sense if you have a weaker GPU / couple yrs old card, otherwise a 5600X would be a better choice for future proofing the system anyway
well i just built a machine back in July with the 3700x and am very happy with it in my machine. i paired it with a nvme pcie gen 4 drive and a 2070 super. honestly if i had to build it again i would go with the 5900x over the 5600x as I want the core count.
@@lifemocker85 Yeah but seriously. I play at 1440p so if there is no difference between the 2 with the said resolution, then I'm going to pull the trigger rn and buy a 3600x. So what do you think?
@@grazorrr0666 Yeah, Intel LGA 1366 is a 2011 motherboard series. The three letter identifier for the motherboard is "X58" and the Xeon (workstation CPU) that you could use on these motherboards were the X56 series. I personally have an X5675 overclocked to 4.3Ghz.
The prices for CPUs are crazy now. In May of 2020 I bought a 3900x for 289.99 now they are $549.99 (on sale!) at my local Microcenter. 5900x is same price but you can't find one.
Voltage is not the correct metric to use as two of the same model can clock dufferently at a given voltage. Temp and temp gain vs perf gain determin the voltage limit. Depending on silicon a CPU might achive and OC speed at 1.32v while another might need 1.37v for that same OC however as long as the temps are steady when running and within spec both CPUs will be fine to run 24/7 with no degradation. AMD has stated that 1.45v can be 24/7 for some CPUs, it is temp dependent
Hey Nerd on a Budget, I have the following systerm: 3700x in bios 4.2ghz all core, RTX 2060 super FE, 16gb 3600mhz (corsair vengeance rgb ram), B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC motherboard, Primera PM01 case, with a total of six fans, all on air..excellent thermals, though not the most quiet case! SO, I have considered the new AMD 3rd gen Ryzen CPU's...my use-case is mostly right now video streaming/web browsing and games. I have a 32" 1440p monitor and I game at 1440p. I can absolutely see why the new 5600x would be a preferance, consdiering it's improved IPC and higher frame rates at 1080p..but for me, even though it's 2nd gen, I'm sticking to my 3700x perhaps until next year, and get the 5800x (which many are saying the price-to-performance is not the "best deal" but I am stubborn and want those 8 cores, 3rd gen Ryzen architecture!). And we haven't even talked about upgrading to the new Nvidia 3000 or AMD 6000 series cards--when they are availiable..again, 2021. Sorry for the long post, just my 2 cents, and thanks for this awesome video.
i have 3700x for past two weeks, paid 270 and i manage to get Msi B450 Gaming Pro Carbon Max Wifi for 110 and for 5600x need b550 with is more expensive.
I picked up a 3700X ($279) and B550 Tomahawk along with the $20 off. I'm content with my decision. Now when I'm on this side it looks like all their processors are kind of pricey, I mean the 3600 is $250 right now
Heyooo i just have a little tiny question . What would you say on a b450 mortar from msi . A ryzen 7 3700x or the ryzen 5 5600 ? Just as a side note i have a rtx 2070 now and will probably upgrade to a rx 6700xt at highest .
Excellent video man. New subscriber here. I have a question, what about streaming test/performance difference between both? How many fps I will loss if I streaming with x264 encoder? I have a 2700 with a 5700xt and I want to improve my fps while streaming and gaming. Thanks.
its simple neither. both are good products with shitty prices. 5600x is just a 8700k with tiny improvement in fps. 3700x is also tiny improvement over 2700x.
@@catter31 pcie gen 4 doesnt matter right now unless your future proofing but i guarantee you these cpus will be outdated much quicker. i dont see any of the new cpus being future proof as the future is very uncertain. and we may have intel and amd finally competing. instead of 4c8t for half a decade.
