If your workload requires ECC, go with an Epyc. Supposedly there are no motherboards for either other option for which you can verify it is working correctly.
People using these to say the purpose of a pc part part is so dumb you’re pretty much saying the only thing that you can do with any device is just gaming.
@@nicoherrerai ye but are we really gonna put threadripper in the same series when its like 10 times bigger and has almost 2x more cores than the best ryzen 9 cpu with the worst in the current lineup?
As someone with all 3 platforms in a number of builds. My daily system (At Home) is actually a First Gen EPYC with dual 3090s, tripple monitor and a 4th display for multimedia consumption (movies, youtube). With Zenstates, I have the epyc chip OC and performance is between a 3950x and 5950x in cinebench and cpuz or faster if i push it up 200mhz more. Gaming, work, content creation is all child's play and it isn't the most powerful build I have. the best part is the expansion and 8 channel ram. I have 16 nvme drives in 4 asus hyper m.2 all in raid0 for accelerating whatever workload and also for a few of my games. granted, even if my games are run off any of the 4 8TB HDDs, its stil feels like they run off an NVMe since i use 128GB out of my 256GB ram for primocache along with one of the 2 nvme drives connected to the motherboard itself. So Yeah. There's no way you can have this much power with regular ryzen or intel consumer gaming platforms.
Got ryzen 5 1600 for 2+ year now. Still very powerfull. My GTX 1060 AMP is the buttleneck at this moment. Next upgrade for my PC is a 650W psu. With all the fan/led/USB port used, 500w is not enoug anymore. I have 24 GB Ram 2 8GB/2 4 GB. 1 tb hdd, 4tb external disk Drive and 240 GB SSD for Windows. Overall im very impress.
thanks this helped a lot. i was going to buy EPYC, 128GB RAM,RTX 3080 to play NFS Most Wanted(2005) . So now i bought core 2 quad(refurbished), 2gb ram to play it (just kidding) Nice video
Great video. But the cache memory claim is completely false. Especially if you look at zen 2 vs zen 3. Most of what they did was cache rework and got 19% ipc increase. Clearly you folks don't understand fundamentals of how cache works and how much slower your games would be if they had to refer to memory every single time rather than have onboard cache. A lot of processing cycles is waiting on RAM to start processing. I dont want to bash but want to delude from what is important to know. Otherwise great video!
Its funny hearing now that threadripper is made for professional workload and ryzen only for gaming, as ryzen destroys intel in the sense that you lose a tiny bit of performance (fps), but you gain much more and there is more room for workload with the added cores. You don't even need a threadripper to edit videos on one pc now. Amd is just toying with intel.
My laptop with an AMD 4800U CPU is blowing out my older laptop with an I7 7700HQ CPU when it comes to rendering videos, photos and even the occasional 3D editing.Oh yeah, not to mention the occasional code compilation as well. Of course it's not my main workstation, and I am looking forward to get an all team red system for that (Ryzen and Radeon) with the 5000 series CPU and 6000 series GPU.
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Hi, very nice & informative videos. Is it is good to with AMD Threadripper 3960 (Zen 2) or RYZEN 5950X (Zen 3) for heavy workloads where the tasks (Molecular Dynamics simulations, Deep Learning, etc., will run for 2 - 3 days. For the above works, I choose to use RTX 3090 considering its vRAM, CUDA cores, Tensor cores. So, I have to use it 24/7. Can you suggest me whether I have to go with Threadripper 3960 or RYZEN 5950X
I would most certianly go with Threadripper 3960x. They run the same processor node from TSMC as the 5950x, and the Threadripper is vastly better at handling fluid dynamics and other core/thread heavy workloads with its core/thread count and much higher L2 and L3 cache. It just depends on how much you value the purchase cost, as well as more expensive cooling etc due to the non-standard socket for Threadripper. That said, cooling the Threadripper will be easier to manage due to the much larger die size so managing heat dissipation is less of a struggle, this might be good for longevity under sustained workloads. Also the Threadripper's ability to engage in quad channel memory access will help on productivity a lot. My personal experience is with 3d modelling and rendering, which also has high calculation requirements and here threadripper is the go-to option if budget can sustain it.
Desperate Question: I'd like to upgrade my 2011, 21.5" Imac. I bought it for $20, it works and I was thinking if I upgraded the RAM from 2 gb-10 gb, the CPU, maybe the graphics card and changed the HDD to an SSD, I could play modern games on my Imac with no problem. It wouldn't be a perfect 5 star performance, but it'd work well. Right? Or not? Is it too old? If so, couldn't I upgrade these things and make it modern?
The 2011 iMac of that size has a major issue which is its graphics card. The best variant was offered with a AMD Radeon HD 6770M with 512mb gddr5 vram, which is absolutely NOT sufficient for modern games. Even a mere GTX 1030 has over 150% better performance, and that card is one of the worst value cards you can buy new today. For 20 bucks its a fine deal if the pc works, but I would personally not dump a single coin into it beyond what it comes with stock. Especially for gaming. If you are using it exclusively as a media pc to watch youtube, stream netflix, etc, then sure it might be worth upgrading to an ssd (if you can find a cheap option), but anything beyond that is a dead end in terms of performance and relevance in modern gaming. It's not even a matter of turning down graphics quality settings, I'd be amazed if you could even start up most recent games in the first place. Most of them require +3gb of vram these days, with popular games going for +6gb for semi stable performance.
I'm very new to this so I'm just trying to get some advice if I want to record gameplay on the same computer I'm playing on as well as eventually edit it will an eight-core CPU work just as well?
@@sideswipe248 I beg to differ. If it's in his budget then I support going for the newer gen regardless. But if he's on a tighter one and needs a cpu asap, the first-gen Ryzen chips are still pretty good and he can always opt to upgrade later down the line.
My criticism of this video is that whoever edited it could have matched the b-roll footage with the narration. When she's talking about Threadrippers, show a Threadripper CPU, not a Ryzen 5. When she talks about "new motherboards", show a modern motherboard and not something with AGP from 2001.
I use dual socket AMD EPYC 7F52 with 256 gb RAM for computational fluid dynamics simulation at my job. Needless to say the performance over the intel XEON 6246R is astounding in terms of parallel utilization and computation times. CFD simulation needs maximum memory bandwidth.
IAM planning to buy a pc specialy meant creat high end 3d visuals , using corona ,vray d5 lumion max ue5 which cpu is best amd epyc 9654 or threadripper pro 5995wx?
So.. Which of these would I need for Unreal 5, for full realtime animation in 4-8k in very large scenes that are all photorealistic from megascans with absolutely no hangup, we are going to do miniseries for our characters. Lots of space and very fast paced scenes with alot of visual detail.
Do video editing and lots of video transcoding and some gaming - bought the Threadripper and it was still overkill LOL So many programs are limited on the cores they can talk to.
Actually, it's kind of distracting that the video show other hardware than is being talked about in the video, like Intel CPUs, motherboards with an AGP slot, etc.
Gamers: worries about ingame performance and fps I.T consultants: Laughs at such trivialities... Trying to maintain an infrastructure so the whole world doesn't crash.
I beg to differ, some games utilize higher core counts, one of these games being beaming drive, a hyper realistic car game with crash physics, I would do more research into it if I were you, as I think it’s a pretty awesome game, but sure, a Ryzen 7 would be perfectly fine for it, but the higher core count of a ryzen 9 is way better for games the are more cpu heavy.
05:39 "Cache Memory doesn't impact gaming performance in any meaningful way" This has aged like milk, looking at how the 5800X3D and the 7800X3D perform so well in games
I do host 2 servers on minecraft aternos running on a intel i5 10th gen on a laptop even tho I don’t like intel…. so do I go for Ryzen 9 3950x or threadripper 3990x? I’m not going epyc because those are extremely expensive
I highly recommend Ryzen Threadripper CPUs because a) vanilla multithreading from 1.15 to 1.17 seems to be active only on Threadripper processors in general, b) the memory controller of a Threadripper scales very well between 32 and 256 gigabytes of RAM, c) Ryzen Threadripper processors are quite cheap (1900x about €90, 2920x and 2950x about €300) and lastly, some mods and add-ons (like Endergy) are actually hardcoded to crash on any CPU except Ryzen Threadripper CPUs (this actually generated about 200GB of pure Minecraft crash logs on my previous computer). I hope this is enough information.
lol Ya well i don't want to have to upgrade for the next 5 to 10 years on CPU so i have a TR 3900X 64/128 and its over clocked to 4.2 stable on all cores with 256 gigs ram, with that said i wont need to upgrade my CPU for years to come. and i just need to beef up a GPU. And with the future of VR and GPU changes my cpu will be more than current fore years to come.
Ryzen isn't only for gaming, you don't need more than 8 cores for gaming only(if all you're going to do at the moment the best option would be between Ryzen 3 to Ryzen 7(4 to 8 cores), but if you're streaming, multitasking and doing resource heavy tasks you might need more than 6 cores depending on the usecase
game developers struggle to prog games using 6 cores, so forget it. their biggest headache now, is using M2 memory to their advantage. Still no solution now.
I mean in the end its marketing, what you use it for is your call. And all of them are processors so in reality, the actual difference is just the technical specs, which also changes with new generations. Basically: Ryzen --> Regular Consumers Threadripper --> Enthusiasts or Workstation users Epyc --> Server But of course you can also run a server with a regular ryzen CPU, or game on an epyc CPU, if you really want to.
@@BeatstormX Apple could performs better than android but apple products are costly. Other hand, you can get a lot in android at considerable cost. That's the point the commenter was indicating :)
Hi I have just bought ssd after building my pc and using it with an hdd now when I want to add the ssd, the ssd turn red led light and there is white led light turn on for vga on the motherboard. However everything works the fans and every thing but i don’t get anything on my display just black screen i waited for it for more than hour and the problem didn’t go, and when i took the ssd out and work it with the hdd it works fine...(also i tried unplugging the hdd and start the system with the ssd only still same problem). I hope that any one could help me with this out please.thank you in advance. This are my specs: Motherboard: msi B450-A pro max Cpu: ryzen 5 3600 Gpu: msi armor rx 570 SSD: curcial mx500 250GB(m.2) HDD: Western digital blue 1TB/7200 rpm
That's a monster machine for sure, but for that kind of money, you can get an xbox, nintendo box, and a playstation box, link them all to your TV and have money to spare for more games. Not to mention the electricity bill savings from that 3080 alone...
I'm here after reading the Series X SOC. GDDR6 in 20 channels!! For the Quick Resume function. Yet, still 12MB L3 cache, but like she said..it's ok. Now that we know the Gpu is a RX6800, I'm so excited ! gamers-net.com/new-xbox-series-x-soc-gpu-details-revealed-at-hot-chips-32/