SAAB DAMEN Team for the Dutch Walrus Submarine Replacement Program 

under-appreciated punment.

good one :)

they all stole that technology from turkey .... we all know that. THIEVES

@fireson23 SAAB cars where always excelent, the reason it closed are certanly not due to bad engineering, Volvo still manufactures great cars, do you have any example of other countries with less 10M population that manufacture high end cars? Netherlands have a big truck industry called DAF and is considered one of the most innovative countries in the EU. Interesting link: www.wipo.int/pressroom/en/articles/2019/article_0008.html Apart of that..what have cars to do with it, Finland and Norway dont make any cars at all and both have excelent shipyards.

They probably got influenced by the great submarines and the well known naval tradition Turkey have..

@@henrikborjeson8264 Yeah like wtf.. Turkey has operated German subs since the 1970s and before that American, Italian, Dutch and German again. They literally have zero experience in designing submarines.

@@henrikborjeson8264 Bad joke! Turks are almost finished testing Camels.. So, maybe in the next 200 years they will develop something like a sub.

As long as the Brits don't mess with design and electronics as they are terrible at both !

How do you work that out? I’m very interested in how you explain this.

@@michaelcoles6140 What is there to explain ? Everybody knows that the British can't make something with electronics that keeps on working and the same goes for design. Sure, we have seen nice cars coming from the UK the past decade but that's after German engineering took over and designers from all over the world started doing the sketches. Before the Germans took over pretty much all British brands were bankrupt and the quality of Jaguar, Bentley, MG, Rover, etc was just appalling. Just look at the main infrantry rifle, the L85A1, it's ugly and far from perfect in any other way. Same with the Challenger 2 MBT, put it next to any other MBT and it looks like it's from the 60's. Same with boats and the ugly submarines. The last pretty thing they created was the Spitfire !

I don’t think you’re aware that vw group was fully bolstered by the British, and has largely a British design crew to this day! A long with hundreds of other people from around the world..... You say about British electronics but name one electronic company within the world that can do it right? As far as I can tell electronics are designed from multicultural work forces. British subs are no different from other country’s! A TUBE! The challenger was built in the 90s with one main purpose to prevent deaths within! That it does well better than any other tank..... the brits spent more on buying them crappy Spanish tanks and wished they didn’t..... I’m thinking you have a racist view on the brits!......And have not worked out yet that the hole world design these items and not one nation! Maybe start looking at more facts instead of listening to other racist people and thinking your right! The world is in it together even the good old USA and Russia just because they fight doesn’t mean the country men don’t do business and get on. It’s a shame your so narrow minded.

@HowDareYou Indeed, its easy to forget Diesel electric subs are still around and used by many nations. Also I'm not gonna guess, function since right now everyone is designing future subs.

Square subs are really the thing these days. Square scoops. Square troops. Square every thing. lol

Good one😂

Kinda. The proposed Walrus class replacement looks like the new Swedish A26 but it's bigger and it has a larger displacement.

You are aware that data, while something to be proud of is out dated given how it was done in the late 90s and early 2000s. Since then the German 212A type subs have over taken the Dutch Swedish subs as well as the American Virginia class. Just because it sank a US carrier in the past wargames doesn't mean it will now. Heck just look up the Destruction of the USS America, that thing was hit both above and below the water line and still refused to sink after a month of bombardment, making it the most expensive target ship in US history.

@@Predator42ID Yes ofc, its old and as I said, it was an older version of Gotland. The new one would just make it all over again and also sink some of the fancy new Nukes like Virginia in the process. A nuke is never as quiet as an AIP sub. But that is just a capabillity test, nothing that would ever happen. You will never find that sub in blue water conditions and we would never go to war with the US. In the regions where it is made to operate, littoral waters, the odds get even more on the side of the submarine.

The Dutch Walrus (or was it a Zwaardvis) did something similar, slipping unnoticed through a NATO exercise into their home port. Could have sunk them all

Yeah, not gonna happen buddy, not for prices like you quoted, that's incredibly unrealistic. The Netherlands has reserved 4 billion Euro's for their 4 new submarines, and they're only regular diesel-electric attack submarines, not even ballistic missile submarines. A submarine with your requirement would cost at the very least 1 billion a piece if not more.

Go home and make your chapati and chai

Andrew Yunus: Then you should study the Swedish Gotland submarine! This little 100 million $ tin can ripped apart US carrier asses during 2 (TWO) years before the mighty US Navy understood this phenomenon and could update their radar systems! Citation "Naval analyst Norman Polmar said the Gotland “ran rings” around the American carrier task force. Another source claimed U.S. antisubmarine specialists were “demoralized” by the experience." nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/swedens-super-stealth-submarines-are-so-lethal-they-sank-us-18383 Read the section "Deployments" in below Wikipedia link and we will understand that it isn't always the one with the biggest mouth who wins :) Citation "In 2004, the Swedish government received a request from the United States to lease HSwMS Gotland - Swedish-flagged, commanded and manned, for a duration of one year for use in antisubmarine warfare exercises. The Swedish government granted this request in October 2004, with both navies signing a memorandum of understanding on 21 March 2005.[5][6] The lease was extended for another 12 months in 2006.[7][8][9] In July 2007, HSwMS Gotland departed San Diego for Sweden.[10] HSwMS Gotland managed to snap several pictures of USS Ronald Reagan during a wargaming exercise in the Pacific Ocean, effectively "sinking" the aircraft carrier.[11] The exercise was conducted to evaluate the effectiveness of the US fleet against diesel-electric submarines, which some have noted as severely lacking.[12][13]" en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotland-class_submarine

@Thijs1888 The walrus has never done that.

@@AnonyMous-ql9nj Lol, a Walrus-class submarine didn't just sink a US supercarrier but sank half its carrier battle group along with it, including an American nuclear attack submarine, the carrier battle group's command ship, and 6 different frigates and destroyers. There's not a single other navy on the planet who has achieved that, Sweden never scored anything other than just a carrier itself, which is fairly common for diesel electric attack subs.

@@KimJakab The US Navy is highly overrated, not quantitively but definitely qualitively. The US is too arrogant to openly admit that, let alone the many times they weren beaten by other navies during war games, but the facts are out in the open and well known among those who are interested in world navies. Admittedly the Swedes make subs that are excellent value for money, but they're not the best money can buy, hence why if the Netherlands would decide to go for Saab it will only be in a partnership between Saab and Damen, where the latter would substantially change the former's design so it is up to Dutch standards and requirements. It will make the sub a lot more expensive, but also a lot more capable.

william jonathan US ??????? It’s the Russians that’s it’s in Baltic all the time but ok

@@steelshower7949 Russians have coast in Baltic, so its normal that they are there "all the time".

Lea Kaderova no shit but they like to be on the Swedish coast

@@Lea_Kaderova What are they doing in theyr own sea? Explain yourself mister!!! :)

@@bartgielingh2212 wut?