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SACRED SYMPTOMS: How the Numinous Heals 

This Jungian Life
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Jung states “the main interest of my work is not concerned with the treatment of neurosis but rather with the approach to the numinous…the real therapy. In as much as you attain to the numinous experiences you are released from the curse of pathology.” Jung defines numinous as “a dynamic agency or effect not caused by an arbitrary act of will” that conveys a mysterious yet deeply meaningful message. Numinous experiences happen to us, yet we can approach the numinous by engaging in practices like active imagination, recording dreams, or religious and esoteric modalities. Wisdom traditions-and Jung-have marked the trails. Life crisis and trauma can also open us to the numinous: fairy tales, myths, and religious texts relate happenings of help when all seemed lost. Whether sought or suffered, something greater appears when ego yields. We can act on the guidance that is given, and may attain the healing gifted by experience of the numinous.
HERE'S THE DREAM WE ANALYZE:
"I have a joined a circle of men and women studying something psychological. I watch and wait for their leader to welcome me but he wanders off. It is part of a festival and people are lying around sexually pleasuring each other. I explore downstairs but when I come back the workshop members have put on costumes of gods and goddesses (the theme is Celtic, Nordic) They are coming to a gate at the centre of the ritual and I am in the way. Suddenly, a door opens and I'm pulled out of the way. It is the workshop leader and he takes me to a workbench. I can't remember his name but his book is on the bench. He is called Loki. Suddenly, the screw falls out of my glasses frame and lens falls out. I look on the floor but it is made of sand and there are lots of screws which are too big. After a long search, with no success, I discover something thin and fine in my mouth. I take it out. It is part of my glasses. There is more in my mouth. It is a sliver of the lens and rather than being plastic it is made of glass. I must get it out of my mouth or I will swallow and cut my own throat."
REFERENCES:
William James. The Varieties of Religious Experience: A Study in Human Nature. a.co/d/5mvRUNJ
C.S. Lewis. The Problem of Pain. a.co/d/dFxdbQa
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@eldonscott9
@eldonscott9 10 месяцев назад
“We don’t so much solve our problems as we outgrow them. We add capacities and experiences that eventually make us bigger than the problems.” - C.G. Jung
@lomigreen
@lomigreen 3 года назад
I had a direct revelation from my unconscious. It was a Jesus figure that told me I was loved. This vision changed my life continues to support me. I’m grateful 😇
@karate4348
@karate4348 7 месяцев назад
I wish I had such an experience.
@Dischordian
@Dischordian 2 года назад
2:45 the numinous is the cure 3:50 Jung's quote on his own work. 6:00 AA (12 steps) numinosity 7:55 CS Lewis the numinous 10:00 OCD [("life doesn't like me, doesn't want me here")] 12:30 the reality of the nature of existence 29:15 an extraordinary story, from Joseph Lee
@fernandolora1905
@fernandolora1905 3 года назад
My father who is spiritist, talked to me yesterday about this hidden world wich one way to get acces too is doing profound meditation. Now Joseph is talking about this experience wich my dad was talking about. I thinks this is what you guys call "synchronicity". Theres more pointers in my life that indicates that this is, indeed, one. I just wonder, what does this inner intelligence, what does God want from me? Really looking forward to what is ahead in my life! Really grateful you guys made this episode!
@gwendolynmurphy9563
@gwendolynmurphy9563 9 месяцев назад
The distinction between "manipulating neurologic states" and genuine transformation is, I think, subtle and not recognized among certain schools of meditation. Thanks for articulating that!
@Magik1369
@Magik1369 8 месяцев назад
The first few Numinous encounters are experienced as dread,. Once the deeply held fear and dread coming up from the unconscious is faced head on, purged ,and integrated, the dark side of the Imago Dei is transformed. It gets dis-burdened of its long held standiing negative charge of repression. Then all subsequent spiritual experiences take on a wonderful blissful character. The hot solar aspect is the most intense. But then the luna aspect emerges almost immediately to balance the solar aspect. When these two opposites are integrated, the affective background of consciousness is constant pure bliss and supreme clarity of consciousness. Peace.
@dandaniszewski2920
@dandaniszewski2920 7 месяцев назад
This comment is amazing!
@Tamaraisalive
@Tamaraisalive 26 дней назад
Wisdom ☯️
@Lioness_of_Gaia
@Lioness_of_Gaia 24 дня назад
I like this! Thank you. ✨🔥🖤🌠🙏💛✨
@Tamaraisalive
@Tamaraisalive 26 дней назад
I can’t love this episode enough. Thank you for your work.
@dandaniszewski2920
@dandaniszewski2920 7 месяцев назад
Maybe I'm just catching up? I don't know. I've been working my !@# off, on my own since the only one of many Psychiatrists, SW, MH, Nursing, clinical psychology. They've all had a shot. I've honestly? Tried to connect. That was 21 yrs. ago. Wo. What a freakin ride!
@loberleitner1
@loberleitner1 3 года назад
Yes - we love Jung and thank you for bringing him to us.
@aries8651
@aries8651 2 года назад
Thank you, this really resonates, a few lights went on! Very enjoyable.
@deathsheadtarot7875
@deathsheadtarot7875 3 года назад
I can't help but think of the work that a neuroscientist named Dr.Joe Dispenza does with people through meditation and healing and the many MANY experiences that people describe of healing, very much like the story Joseph described about his own healing in this episode. He teaches people how to overcome their ego, or conscious blocks through meditation and they experience healings of all kinds through source (numinous) Beautiful story Joseph, thank you for sharing!
@laisa.
@laisa. 7 месяцев назад
Wonderful 🌼 however I want to adress the fact that Dr. Joe Dizpensa is not a medical doctor nor a neuroscientist. He is a chiropractor. May very well be good at other areas, but is not a neuroscientist 🙂
@donovan665
@donovan665 6 месяцев назад
Thank you your experiences are known to me and my heart is overjoyed at the gentle reminder how close numinous is.
@fuso4817
@fuso4817 3 года назад
Thank you!
@praveenshkgp
@praveenshkgp 3 года назад
You guys are awesome
@ntobekososibo2042
@ntobekososibo2042 3 года назад
Took a break from listening to the Golden Three. Feeling clearer, happy to be back. And the title gripped me for some reason. 💚 I truly believe in serendipity - this of all episodes had to be the one I came back to. Thank you 🙏
@TheVinesettj
@TheVinesettj 2 года назад
Just curious if anyone can explain what is meant by the sensate realm. This is mentioned during the dream interpretation segment where it is said that the dreamer may have been spending too much time in the realms of the mind and of pleasure and not enough time in the sensate realm. My initial thought is that the sensate realm is awareness of the body and therefore a window into an older precondcious knowledge contained in the body. I'm not certain whether this us the case. Regardless, my question is this: What is meant by the sensate realm and how does apply to the approach/attainment to the numinous?
@anja0449
@anja0449 Год назад
Things are happening backwards again! What is that?! Anyone else having this?
@krisscanlon4051
@krisscanlon4051 2 года назад
God bless Jung and Rowland Hazard them + Wilson = My cure
@Dischordian
@Dischordian 2 года назад
In the opposite order!?
@deebaker9199
@deebaker9199 9 месяцев назад
Bless them, always sending gratitude to those who carried the gold to us all 🎉❤🎉
@GoldJacketLuke
@GoldJacketLuke 2 года назад
Great conversation!
@katrussell6819
@katrussell6819 7 месяцев назад
There are stories of children lost in forests who report getting help from bears, big dogs, or other creatures. There is a recent story of rescuers seeing a large dog leaving the scene as a child is found.
@ebrucayir9572
@ebrucayir9572 18 дней назад
I am really curious about your perspectives on what numinous can look like for an atheists - one that keeps an open mind towards spirituality, particularly through our connection to nature.
@siyaindagulag.
@siyaindagulag. 2 года назад
My own attainment of that has not sat well with others. Beware ones expectations in regards to them . If bogged down by this weight , refresh the numinous ; it will be somehow different each time but one "knows" when its encountered. Bearing no tradition in these matters ,I can see how such could help with that.
@freeman669
@freeman669 3 года назад
❤️
@amandasilcox3521
@amandasilcox3521 8 месяцев назад
I want to ask Joseph about the MRI and Dr's saying there wad trauma but never told him what the trauma was?
@jicajacobsonkimbreaux
@jicajacobsonkimbreaux 8 месяцев назад
Probably the forced stretching, I would assume.
@adamswierczynski
@adamswierczynski 5 месяцев назад
1:03:15
@someonesomeone25
@someonesomeone25 3 года назад
I wish I could have some profound positive healing supernatural or numinous experience.
@pastverb1
@pastverb1 3 года назад
I'm in no way a therapist or professional, just someone who's bumped up a few such experiences and done a lot of reading. But if I can help you find such experiences too I'd love to chat.
@someonesomeone25
@someonesomeone25 3 года назад
@@pastverb1 Thank you I only really have youtube, but Im happy to chat here.
@pastverb1
@pastverb1 3 года назад
Do you know what you're inwardly wrestling with? I remember going through my major depressive episodes (weeks sitting on the couch hopelessly knowing the universe had no point) and having no idea what weighed on me holding me down there.
@someonesomeone25
@someonesomeone25 3 года назад
@@pastverb1 No, I dont think I do. Except, perhaps, that Im in a bad life circumstance at the moment.
@pastverb1
@pastverb1 3 года назад
That's the hardest in some ways. I'm sorry. Is it personal or interpersonal?
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