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@keikomoriko8517
@keikomoriko8517 3 месяца назад
sage, the regen healer roleplaying as a shield healer
@WombatStyle
@WombatStyle 3 месяца назад
Oh my GOD THANK YOU!
@AngusmcFangus
@AngusmcFangus 3 месяца назад
I honestly think sch sage is gonna be goated for prog with these changes. It was already insane at level 90 now even more so
@shadowkras
@shadowkras 3 месяца назад
"I expected something more noteworthy as our capstone" - Said every scholar main before EW release.
@toodleselnoodos6738
@toodleselnoodos6738 3 месяца назад
Hey, Expedient was actually good!
@shadowkras
@shadowkras 3 месяца назад
@@toodleselnoodos6738 My point exactly.
@shadowkras
@shadowkras 3 месяца назад
Not only it was good. It had to be nerfed.
@Pandaxtor
@Pandaxtor 3 месяца назад
I remember WoW having something similar and it was very broken. People didn't pay attention to history and expect it to be trash.
@Runfaster93
@Runfaster93 3 месяца назад
So will Eukrasian Dyskrasia stack with Eukrasian Dosis?
@arcadema
@arcadema 3 месяца назад
The tooltip doesnt say it cant so im hoping it can
@AC-mp6xe
@AC-mp6xe 3 месяца назад
Yes it does! Hopefully they don’t change it
@coolseel
@coolseel 3 месяца назад
banger vid
@MrLyramion
@MrLyramion 3 месяца назад
Dream: Make a Spellspeed SGE to pump Philosophia up Expected Reality: Enemy damage still to low
@JaguarMLT
@JaguarMLT 3 месяца назад
Eukrasian Dyskrasia = WHM Aero 3 Would have loved WHM to get Aero 3 back
@pockystyx4087
@pockystyx4087 3 месяца назад
SCH: "first time?"
@abuhurairah6268
@abuhurairah6268 3 месяца назад
@@pockystyx4087 *cries in Bane
@JaguarMLT
@JaguarMLT 3 месяца назад
@@pockystyx4087 Spreading ebola like confetti
@abuhurairah6268
@abuhurairah6268 3 месяца назад
And I don't particularly miss Miasma II...
@oathkeeper005
@oathkeeper005 3 месяца назад
Trggggfgoo
@currentlemon
@currentlemon 3 месяца назад
Toxikon II is now a DPS loss at max level. Jesus Christ, I hope this an oversight and they fix this at launch. It just renders the Addersting / Toxikon mechanic to near useless now.
@RinBanana
@RinBanana 3 месяца назад
Pneuma is too - my assumption is that these have just not been updated yet and on live they'll be equal
@MrLyramion
@MrLyramion 3 месяца назад
@@RinBanana If they didn't update it yet the community will make such a stink they will quickly fix it. Remember the stink we had they then solved with Miasma II on SCH.
@Orih9
@Orih9 3 месяца назад
To be fair, Toxikon II has always been a loss in regards to generating more than three. I was really hoping it would get a small rework to become a more active part of Sage gameplay, like how Alphinaud uses it as an OGCD attack, rather than a counterintuitive movement tool.
@gmkgoat
@gmkgoat 3 месяца назад
Reminder that Afflatus Misery wasn’t made dps neutral in EW until 6.1
@currentlemon
@currentlemon 3 месяца назад
@@Orih9 True. I wouldn’t mind the loss of potency if Toxikon II was made into an oGCD ability.
@Sazandora635
@Sazandora635 3 месяца назад
Oh goody. Eukrasian Dykrasia being a *slight* DPS gain over Dosis was what I was praying for. Granted, it's barely changing the rotation overall but I'll take anything to break up the 1 spam at this point.
@DrakeDraco2000
@DrakeDraco2000 3 месяца назад
I expect that the Magick Mastery trait will quickly get patched to also boost Toxikon III when they realize people aren't using it over Dosis. I like the idea of Eukrasian Dyskrasia being a Miasma 2 for SGE, though I wouldn't be shocked if they later patch things to only let you have one DoT on the target at a time, and mask it in a buff to Phlegma or Psyche.
@arcadema
@arcadema 3 месяца назад
I have a nagging feeling theyll make the dots unstackable in the live game.
@ahnalbeets774
@ahnalbeets774 3 месяца назад
@@arcadema According to recent leaks: This appears to be the case.
@arcadema
@arcadema 3 месяца назад
@@ahnalbeets774 that sucks insanely bad.
@awesomeuno1
@awesomeuno1 3 месяца назад
These videos all have such a good layout, thank you so much!
@faolheamh8422
@faolheamh8422 3 месяца назад
Just started learning Sage as my first healer job. Stressful, but I think I'm getting it. Figured I'd better check whats gonna change before I get too used to it 😅
@Yozunha
@Yozunha 3 месяца назад
thanks for the vid ! im new to the game but it was easy to understand
@willymobile
@willymobile 3 месяца назад
Zoe not getting reduced is so weird.
@Selenitic
@Selenitic 3 месяца назад
I'm curious to see how many healing potency buffs we can stack. Those could lead to some really fat shields.
@danielphillips5944
@danielphillips5944 3 месяца назад
Cant decide betwen sage or sch
@toodleselnoodos6738
@toodleselnoodos6738 3 месяца назад
So you want to be a Barrier Healer WHM? Play SCH. Do you want to play a real SCH? Play SGE. In short: don’t play SCH.
@astrum_remi
@astrum_remi 3 месяца назад
Savage prog groups using a SCH + SGE combo is going to be even more viable than it already was
@kylegodon
@kylegodon 3 месяца назад
With philosophia it’ll be nice to have another ability to heal the party from far away
@Borthralla
@Borthralla 3 месяца назад
The soteria vs recitation comparison is rather strange, if they wanted to make it comparable out should’ve been zoe’s cooldown buffed to 60s.
@toodleselnoodos6738
@toodleselnoodos6738 3 месяца назад
I’m just gonna assume that it’s because in Solo Dungeon (the only casual content that exists to the dev team), Recitation + Excogitation = 1200p. So Soteria at 4x(170*1.7) ≈ 1156p. Zoe is *supposed* to be SGE’s Deployment Tactic equivalent. They get Zoe the same time SCH gets Deployment Tactics. They’re both originally 2 min and they both get reduced down to 90sec at the same time.
@cinavik
@cinavik 3 месяца назад
Does Euk Dys stack with Euk Dosis? Or overwrite it?
@garmmermibe5397
@garmmermibe5397 3 месяца назад
From what I've seen in videos, they stack. But this could be changed to overwrite in the final release build. So it'll be worth it to double check on release.
@papersage69
@papersage69 3 месяца назад
All great stuff! I only have two critiques for the kit. One: it would be nicer if Psyche if it were a spell and not an ability. Then 60 ogcd is not as fun as 60 spell and would break up more of the dosis spam. And two: have soteria effect Philosophia buff, more kit synergy is always better, also would have loved it to be a spell.
@dracodragniel8648
@dracodragniel8648 3 месяца назад
But then its still the same? Your still just spamming one button as a GCD. Id much rathee have it as an OGCD, I think to make it better. Reduce the potency to 450 and give it 2 charges.
@pazeliastra
@pazeliastra 3 месяца назад
Perhaps the reason soteria got a decreased cooldown is not directly because recite has a lower cooldown, but because getting more uses of aether flow increases your fairy gauge, which is the soteria equivalent?
@azuronburrito6176
@azuronburrito6176 3 месяца назад
Recitation doesn't use a charge of aetherflow and thusly doesn't increase the fairy gauge
@pazeliastra
@pazeliastra 3 месяца назад
@@azuronburrito6176 fairy gauge is increased based on the execute of aether flow actions, not expenditure of aether flow itself
@quintinrussell6591
@quintinrussell6591 3 месяца назад
Do you guys think the soteria buff will affect the new group kardia, eudaimodia or w/e?
@pazeliastra
@pazeliastra 3 месяца назад
@@quintinrussell6591 I doubt it. Soteria didn't look like it had pankardion written on it.
@gackybass
@gackybass 3 месяца назад
@@quintinrussell6591 Nope, Philosophia is a separate effect to Kardion. Soteria specifically affect's Kardion's healing.
@IyasuHN2
@IyasuHN2 3 месяца назад
when compared to Sch it looks underwhelming (but i mean seraphism is unfairly good) But when combined with Scholar, this makes SGE SCH look VERY enticing ngl. The amount of regen output, healing buff and mitigation sage has with no loss of gcds coupled with even fatter SCH shields is a world i can live in.
@cameronmcenroe9051
@cameronmcenroe9051 3 месяца назад
I'm maining sage, and doing end game content such as savages and ultimates, when compaired to a scholar is gonna feel very lacking. I hope on the offical release notes some things are tweaked potency wise in the least. Otherwise, I just hope it's fixed prior to the release of savage.
@vikerish3633
@vikerish3633 2 месяца назад
Sorry I'm a bit confused, how is eukrasian Dykrasia a DPS increase when it is flat-out less Damage over time than eukrasian Dosis if they both take the same time to apply
@RinBanana
@RinBanana 2 месяца назад
They weren't competing with Eukrasian dosis, but instead a single cast of regular dosis - 400 vs 360. In final build they can't stack so it's rendered impossible anyways
@vikerish3633
@vikerish3633 2 месяца назад
@@RinBanana Ah i wasn't aware it was stackable pre release that makes more sense, thank you!
@alexwolf5289
@alexwolf5289 3 месяца назад
I love you Rinon, you're a GOAT !
@Sc0tt8588
@Sc0tt8588 3 месяца назад
Welcome back Miasma 2
@Kaladin07
@Kaladin07 3 месяца назад
Im switching from Whm to Sge in Dawntrail for static. So the new dot is a 40 potency gain but when does the final tick of a dot actually hit? Does the final tick happen at 1 second remaining?
@Maxawa.
@Maxawa. 3 месяца назад
no need to use the melee range aoe dot in single target. it cant be stacked with euk dosis
@Kaladin07
@Kaladin07 3 месяца назад
@@Maxawa. ohh they changed it. Good lol
@Maxawa.
@Maxawa. 3 месяца назад
@@Kaladin07 yea one part of me is glad they changed it but another part is sad it feels kinda useless now even in dungeon pulls and sage is not as interesting in savage as it could be
@Orih9
@Orih9 3 месяца назад
I don't like that Eukrasian Dyskrasia's duration is the same as Eukrasian Dosis III's. Hopefully that changes when Dawntrail launches, but one of the qualities that made old Scholar more fun was that you weren't just refreshing your DOTs at the same time every time. Since Sage is supposed to be the more offensive healer, it would be really nice to see some of its attacks made available more frequently to offset the significant amount of time it spends spamming Dosis III. Changing the duration of Eukrasian Dosis III's DOT to 15 seconds instead of 30 seconds, as well as reducing the cooldown of Phlegma to 20 seconds from 40 would go a long way at making Sage feel more fast-paced without needing to massively change the job before 8.0.
@jimdale9143
@jimdale9143 3 месяца назад
Thank you for doing these videos. I've been debating whether to prioritize Sage or Scholar to 100 first.
@Borthralla
@Borthralla 3 месяца назад
I think the scholar and sage abilities are meant to have a similar buff to your shields, the upgraded scholar heals have about 20% more potency. The sage regen is likely slightly more powerful, but it doesn’t give you infinite pepsi though.
@toodleselnoodos6738
@toodleselnoodos6738 3 месяца назад
It doesn’t need infinite Pepsis because that’s exactly what Philosophia + Prognosis is supposed to be. Philosophia and Seraphism are “we fucked Pure/Barrier healers, here’s some Pure healing”. They’re both 3 min. But SGE never had any issues Pure Healing because they simply use Zoe+Pneuma and can Prognosis spam.
@SableBez
@SableBez 3 месяца назад
One of the fill channels that actually shows the spell animations.
@madily
@madily 3 месяца назад
MIASMA 2?
@The_Hanged_Man_Arcana
@The_Hanged_Man_Arcana 3 месяца назад
So... where's pankardia?
@Everlarke
@Everlarke 3 месяца назад
It’s Philosophia
@batrastered
@batrastered 3 месяца назад
4:00 yes, zoe and recitation are even the same keybinds for me lol
@onioncultistlordoftheonion8315
@onioncultistlordoftheonion8315 3 месяца назад
From what I see and from previous traits shown, Zoe is meant to be SGE's version of deployment tactics, instead of spreading a larger shield they buff the crap out of their aoe shield.
@SuperShesh2
@SuperShesh2 3 месяца назад
I appreciate getting a mini lb3 and all as a scholar, but im *pissed* that they appropriated miasma 2 (level 47) and shadow flare (level 50), exchanging it for a 120s aoe dot at double the level of 100 and giving it to sage instead still at far too absurdly high levels for what it should be. AS WELL AS giving them a 60s cooldown on top of that. Like how in any way does that feel like an equivalent trade especially at aquisition levels.
@isiseffect8602
@isiseffect8602 3 месяца назад
First off, thank you for the video! As for my thoughts, when you said “pale in comparison”, that pretty much summed it up for me. Psyche is cool, but we saw Alphinaud use it in the Endwalker cinematic. Clearly, they’ve had this devised for quite some time. I was actually quite disappointed when my sage couldn’t do what the cinematic portrayed, but as gamers we should be used to broken promises. Philosophia seems neat and in line with the Sage’s toolkit, but as you say, just not what a scholar can do. I like the idea of an AoE dot but, not locked behind Eukrasia. I often will cast Eukrasia in prep for a Eukrasian Diagnosis to save time later, and then use Dyskrasia (because it’s my only attack left) until I need to heal. This will basically FORCE us into taking an extra second to heal when we need it by restricting a spell prep step. However, this will again, only affect characters in lv 90-100 content, forcing us once again to learn a job one way at lower levels then re-learn it again at higher content. To be frank, it seems like they’ve made no effort at all to lift this healer off the floor of the healer tier list, or add anything new and exciting at all. I would even argue that Soteria was originally intended to be a 15 second skill but was debuffed for the lv 90 cap. Because that would have unquestionably (sarcasm) bumped the Sage into the 3rd best healer slot….
@VForceWave
@VForceWave 3 месяца назад
Please tell me you're not using Dyskrasia in single target environments lol
@toodleselnoodos6738
@toodleselnoodos6738 3 месяца назад
Alphinaud never used Psyche in EW.
@eternalsummer8409
@eternalsummer8409 3 месяца назад
Think you might be misremember toxicon
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