@@michalvrabec454 They seem to lilitarlly ignore facts from the manga because they delieberatly skipped some of it that covered the Monster King because it will spoil what will come in the anime which I think is stupid.
Even if we did assume his narrative is written to never lose a fight, Popeye could get out of the plot, go into the real world and force the animators and writers (you know, the dudes who CREATE the plot) to let the fight go a certain way.
And that's where Death Battle comes in to test that theory, and apparently Popeye is the clear winner, so how's that for a character being unbeatable which becomes beatable
@@kyletheforgottenone6585 Le me guess, you're the one outta how many others, suggested Popeye to fight Saitama?.... (.. A cartoon character, that can't be beaten or killed... Jus like the others, like roadrunner that misses the Fox's trap, (whatever his name is again..) and hits him, but he gets up or gets doozied, as if he can't die or be "injured".. But he becomes fine, like magic
These guys were so salty with their reaction. Most Saitama fans were actually happy with the outcome. Saitama technically won finally finding a worthy opponent.
"If that's the case I want to see Popeye vs Superman, go!" That happened. And Popeye won. And it was _Silver Age_ Superman, the guy who could juggle planets, blow out stars like candles, wipe out solar systems with a sneeze, and literally make up new powers on the fly. Comics are weird, man.
Which issue? I know the one he first appeared in they fought but he didn't beat him it just said it gave him strength like superman's. He got some hits in but that's all
Regardless of the absurdity of Toon Force, Popeye survived ALL OF REALITY ITSELF BEING ERASED. Put simply, if he can shrug that off, Saitama wouldn't really be able to hurt him. Plus, Saitama is still human, and can't breathe in space, whereas Popeye can. Also, there's nothing stopping Popeye from just, threatening the animators to make the fight go a certain way.
Yup. The idea that Saitama can just one-shot ANYBODY regardless of what franchise they're from or how powerful they are is just ridiculous. No amount of punching super hard will help against a guy who survived literally the entire universe being erased around him as well as coming back from the void of non-existence. Sorry, Saitama fans, but he ain't invincible, and his gag definitely doesn't work on an even older and demonstrably stronger character who is _literally even more of a gag._ Popeye is what he is, and what he is happens to be One-Punch Man before Saitama was even a thought in ONE's head.
25:37 "Are you just going to give him the win because he's from a nonsensical cartoon universe?" YES! That's the whole point of them by ignoring all physics and performing the definition of impossible and unthinkable because it's what they do on a daily basis.
Yeah ignoring popeye cartoon logic, its like ignoring the mask cartoon powers. Its pretty much a big part from their identidy. That and that the only thing that can kill a toon is the dip from Roger rabbit
i kind of agree with Nate tho... but let me explain: if ScrewAttack only gave victory to popeye because of this one reason "he's from a nonsensical cartoon universe", than I would disagree, but since ScrewAttack provided impressive feats for popeye than it's all good, and Nate is the one who is wrong...
They did measure what they could, the energy of the spinach Popeye eats and thus the boost he gets from it. Oh wait, Popeye's actually beaten a spinach eating boxer without his own spinach boost, meaning he has that star level power already and thus millions of times stronger than Saitama's most casual planet busting punch. And even as mentioned, even if Saitama could kill Popeye, Popeye can just revive himself with his spinach, becoming even stronger than Saitama, and he can decompose Saitama with any punch he wants. Not to mention you skipped out on Saitama's 8% speed of light feat from returning from the moon, which is beaten by Popeye's 500 times faster than light feat in hitting the sun.
@@mrlazygenius2816 That they shouldn't have focused on Popeye's toon physics and recognize that Popeye has a feat to prove his superiority to most calculations for Saitama's strength level. Oh, and that they shouldn't have skipped over important information like Saitama's speed.
You guys are being unreasonably salty... Like they gave a reasonable explanation for why Popeye would beat Saitama, hell could beat any character who doesn't utilize toon force. I feel like you're letting your love for the show OPM get in the way of what is for once one of the more reasonable Death Battles, instead of just enjoying the Death Battle animation for what it is as a cool finale. Like, if you can come up with a way for Saitama to be able to defend themselves against an attack that could turn you into a pile of fish hooks, I want to hear it. I'm genuinely curious. Saitama doesn't really have any of the reality defying abilities that Popeye, or hell even Bugs Bunny and the Mask have. He only had his superhuman strength and durability, which while superhuman doesn't really possess a natural resistance against reality defying abilities.
To be fair, a lot of people, myself included before the battle, underestimated Popeye because he was a old-school cartoon, but that's also the reason WHY he won; he's an old-school cartoon. Anime characters like Saitama have limits, no matter how strong those characters are. Cartoons like Popeye, especially as old a cartoon as he is with no source material (to my knowledge), are basically gods because they can do fuck-all everything. I can understand being salty about the outcome, but the results are what they are and ya can't change that, no matter how stubborn you are
You are 100% right. Popeye is a cartoon that can break any law and create there own laws and break them One punch man is an Anime which follows all "natural" laws of physics. Sometimes they can be pushed but never fully broken. But to put it simply, not even saitama could beat popeye because of the stupid logic that is, the toon force!
@@sigmaofOz When TV in the late 90s and early 2000s would only show his feats of eating spinach to beat Bluto, minus his insane feats like punching God, bringing himself back from complete disintegration, etc.
Who're the idiots anyway who even wanted that fight... (Apparently, people thought it's a good idea to say bout Popeye n' Saitama... Cause isn't obvious that a cartoon character like him can't be beaten, CAUSE he's a damn cartoon character, cartoon characters can't die, be beaten!)
I normally like your reactions, but blind saltiness is something that really rubs me the wrong way. Just speaks immaturity. When everyone is telling you you're wrong, maybe it's time to reevaluate
"i wanna see popeye vs superman" That did happen. And Popeye kicked his ass This is why i was so excited for this match up - to see anime fanboys rage when their precious character loses to a person they had no business beating
That was a Popeye parody, not Popeye. Also, unless the fight itself is a joke, match ups like these are pointless and boring. It's like pitting Cthulu against a newborn puppy. Why even make that happen?
@@jokairou489 because people said, they said them they want it, so complain about people who want it not to the creators, i got that fight and like it, if you got it and dont like it dont complain with tye ones eho did it at least in this case.
@@jokairou489 because Saitama fanboys truly believe no other character can beat him, this is proof that Saitama fans need to accept that their precious baldy isn't the strongest in fiction.
Saitama: can destroy uranus 4x in a single punch because he does 100 pushups, situps, squats and a 10k run every day Renegade: yeah that seems reasonable Popeye: can destroy a star because he eats his spinach Renegade: ABSOLUTELY ABSURD, BULLSHIT FEATS, DOESN'T MAKE SENSE *cough cough* biased *cough*
Both are bullshit, but Popeye's is on a whole different level of bullshit. I'm more upset that they waste time making these "battles". If the outcome is guaranteed, the hypothetical fight is pointless and boring, unless the fight itself is a joke.
@@jokairou489 the outcome is guaranteed in every DEATH BATTLE. Name a DEATH BATTLE where there were 2 characters and one wouldn't beat the other 10x over based on one of their feats, whether it be strength, speed etc. If what you are trying to say is that, these characters should have never been put against one another in the first place BECAUSE of their difference in strength, well, thats not fair to the DEATH BATTLE crew because they only find these feats of the characters strength and speed etc. while they are in the process of researching them. They probably didn't know who would win until they were already animating the fight, watching all the popeye cartoons, reading the whole one punch man manga etc. If you want to find out more about their episode making process, watch their Commentary video about Saitama VS Popeye so you can get an idea for how it was made.
Everyone in the death battle community agree on this verdict. This fight is also one of the biggest stomps in the entire series and no they didn’t say that Popeye can win just because he’s from a wacky cartoon, they actually used feats and they said that Saitamas POTENTIAL strength is limitless, but there’s nothing in his world that can even push him to those levels. And it doesn’t matter if Saitama strength is limitless, I’m pretty sure beating the shit out of your animator in the real world is infinitely above limitless power in a fictional world. Here I’ll prove it now, take one of your comic books out, preferably the one with the strongest character (like Superman, who apparently has limitless power) and fight it. Who’s going to win? You or the comic book? If it actually took you more than 2 seconds to think of an answer to that obvious question, then maybe go lie down for awhile, have a nice nap. Nate, I enjoy your content. I think you and your friends are great people at heart and are great reactors because you actually react but please don’t spout shit that you think is correct just because you disagree with an outcome, Death battle gave you clear evidence on why Popeye would win and yet you just ignored it and oh also really nice of you to basically say your fans are lazy and toxic when you referred them to having fat fingers mashing the dislike button. Also you guys aren’t versus debaters, you guys don’t know much shit about true versus debating, so stop acting like you know your stuff. I don’t see you doing the hours and maybe days worth of researching in order to properly come to the conclusion of a fight
They pulled this same crap with reverse flash vs goku black. Reverse clearly won but because he is not an anime character he cant be a good character or something
@@dakaraipatterson2986 I also just don’t agree on Nate’s hot takes about Superman. Like I really think that Death Battle slightly ruined Superman’s reputation
I don't know, but the simply fact that he can survive the reality turned off because he ate spinach sounds a little.... *Absurd*, call me crazy but it's like that
Hey, I was mad/surprised when saitama lost too. But their reasons for giving Popeye the win are founded. This actually mirrors the Deadpool vs The Mask fight. Cartoons from That age are essentially Gods. Only D.I.P. Can really kill them.
@@scottvgamer1163 It's not a person it's a substance it's literal acid to toons it was introduced in Who Framed Roger Rabbit and it can it can fatally dissolve any toon that it comes in contact with.
Okay,that does it. Clearly you guys don't pay attention. They showed proof that Saitama is the strongest in HIS universe. It doesn't mean any other character from any other universe isn't strong enough to beat him. Not to mention showing proof that Saitama is NOT limitless. And Nate you couldn't tell but the moment you said "BS" after the K.O I disliked. Like wow,it's amazing how wrong you guys are on this one. And BTW if you payed attention,they did measure Popeye's star feat which was stronger than Saitama's greatest punch. I'm tired of seeing you guys complaining whenever the character you wanna see loses a DB. How about enjoy the fight for what it is instead of complaining like children? It's honestly to the point I'm considering unsubscribing from your channel. P.S; Saitama's creator has said before that Saitama isn't unbeatable.
I love the Renegades as much as their next fan, but their reaction to this was stupid. If they weren’t complaining, they’d have seen that both Saitama and ONE have stated that he currently has a measurable limit, since Saitama hasn’t had to actually exert himself in any fight, thus had no need to become stronger. Popeye, on the other hand, is rubber hose animation and has toon force; this fight was over long before it began, but it was at least enjoyable. Not to mention his ability to literally deconstruct things with a single punch, and that’s before he eats spinach. Hell, if Popeye wanted to, he could force the animators to let him win, because he breaks the fourth wall almost as much as Deadpool does, if not more! Out of all the reactions I’ve seen, these are the only two I’ve seen that complained when Saitama didn’t win.
Even jf you don't agree with the outcome, sitting there a pouting after watching a fight that had clearly so much effort put into it is just straight up disrespectful.
It ain't their faults that you had people, who wanted the thought of those two fightin'.. But knew he's a damn cartoon character who can't be beaten or fuckin' killed..
And then he goes out of his way to say, "hey they said Superman has infinite strength so why doesn't Saitama" and "Why doesn't Popeye just fight Superman then?" like what relation does Superman have in this, DB literally didn't namedrop Superman once in this episode. As a massive Superman fan it hurts seeing one of my favorite reaction channels shit on his character.
I remember years ago when you guys reacted to the "Kirby vs. Buu" fight and Ben cried bullshit because Kirby won; his entire reasoning was "because I said so, shut up!". Good to see some things never change. Stay salty, boys 👌
For the record Saitama's gag only works in the context of his own universe. Take him out of that and you can find some characters that can defeat him (like this death battle). Plus gag characters have been defeated before in other series. Also many people wanted this fight to happen and they do lots of requested matches.
@@bapponoflacko I'm refereeing to the whole "defeat enemy in 1 punch" as the gag, not Saitama himself having gag powers (gag can also refer to as a running joke).
@@Vozird Because in his universe a planet buster feat is impressive, meanwhile in other universes its a trivial feat anyone can do To characters from those universes, Saitama one punching planet level beings is nothing special at all
Popeye the sailor man: From a universe where god deleted all of reality and he didn't even care Saitama the one punch man: From a universe where he fought planet busters and didn't care Popeye the sailor man: Punches hard enough to tear reality apart Saitama the one punch man: Punches hard enough to tear planets apart Popeye the sailor man: Fast enough to sent a small object directly to the sun and cause a large portion to go black Saitama the one punch man: Fast enough to create multiple after images Popeye the sailor man: Survives being completely disintegrated to the last atom and didn't care Saitama the one punch man: Survives getting hit by planet busting opponents and didn't care Popeye: Able to break reality and laws of physics Saitama: Able to punch really hard Saitama fans: *BuT SaiTamA iS StRonGer!*
Im not talking as a OPM fan but Toon Force is just way full of bullshit. Don't get me wrong,but i think we already knew that pops would win,but simply due tp the toon force. Also Saitama is not undefeatable,whereas, Popeyes confronted God and ignored his influences. The issue with most of the current battles is that we already know who will win due to the absurd amount of differences and effects,like,it does not surprises me.
They did show the Moon feat and also Toon Force wouldn't apply to Ben 10 because Ben 10 himself doesn't use Toon Force. His show is more grounded in reality. Popeye isn't and that's why he's been shown doing ridiculous over the top things. Toon Force is essentially warping reality on a smaller scale to do impossible feats.
Pretty much, yeah. Alien X is still a serious entity with little comedic factor behind it. Ben always has limits he must follow; no matter how much he masters the Omnitrix or how powerful his aliens become, there's always a hard max level he can't overtake due to the character-driven nature of his show that lets him be a relatable and complex person. Being a funny cartoon character literally for the lols, though, Popeye could probably ignore the Chronosapien Time Bomb or even straight up punch its explosion away, and for no other reason than because _spinach makes him strong._ No rules, no definable limits, nada. This is why characters such as Mario, Ed, Edd n' Eddy, The Mask, Donald Duck and especially Bugs Bunny are so ridiculous to work with in versus debates, because the same rules that most overpowered characters are bound to in at least _some_ extent to give them depth (Green Lantern, Goku, Sonic the Hedgehog) are simply _ignored altogether_ by these gag guys. And, as hilariously strong as Saitama is, he just isn't one of these characters, at least nowhere near to the same extent as Elzie Segar's Sailor Man.
@@SuperMandibleclaw tbh they weren’t many spoilers in Saitama’s analysis and the fact they assume that death battle didn’t use that feats shows how little they want to believe in popeye winning
“So what Popeye beats everyone?” Yes. That’s the point. More over this was just a fun cartoon of two absurd characters beating each other with an oddly emotional ending with one punch man finally having fun as an ending to 10 years of death battle. I have never seen anyone act more like actual babies before now.
You mean like how literally every person in this comment section is acting like babies because they didn't react the way you wanted? Simple solution: watch someone else's reaction instead of crying about it here to people who couldn't give two shits about your existence and even less about what you have to say. Also each comment crying about it gives Nate and them a little more money so good job helping them out.
@@DisorientedWanderer "You mean like how literally every person in this comment section is acting like babies because they didn't react the way you wanted?" Really? EVERY person you say? Seem a bit hyperbolic to claim that. But no, to answer your question. Simply expressing displeasure for the childish bitterness of these RU-vidrs is completely understandable. I fail to see how pointing out and critiquing the absurdity of full grown men behaving in such an emotionally childish manner equates to "acting like babies". It would seem you have a bit of maturing to do yourself.
@@jonathangruber7793 you clearly haven't looked at even a quarter of these comments then. I don't feel like arguing with someone especially not about something as ignorant and petty as this. Quit crying about it already.
Yeah..but it was in the part where they skipped a LOT of stuff to avoid spoilers. This is why you don't react to shit even if your fans ask for it if your pretty damn sure there's gonna be spoilers if you want to avoid them. You either harden up and get the spoilers given to you or you don't react..those are the ONLY two options, cause skipping crud to avoid the spoilers in something like Death Battle is gonna leave you with less feats to guess the winner with.
@@SuperMandibleclaw Yep. I got over spoilers a LOOONG time ago because I realized pretty early on people are trolly af and will spoil you online whether you want to be or not. Sure among friends I'll ask if they mind spoilers, and I TRY as best I can to avoid spoilers for new things, both giving them and having them given..but I know it won't always work out. It's gotten to the point where if I spoil myself on something I'll just focus on some other series for a bit until I forget the spoiler...or I just won't care because I enjoy the series too much TO care. I'm also not one of those guys that isn't gonna spoil something that's over a couple years old and over..someone once gave me the argument that "there are new people getting into it everyday and they shouldn't be spoiled"..no..just..that excuse will NOT fly with me for long over series.
@@ShinKyuubi Can't do that when you're on a reaction channel. Wanna see a comment section that's more unhappy with us than this one? Check out any reaction where someone already knew what happened ahead of time. The audience HATES that.
i honestly thought that they would be like, u know what im mad but this makes sense... im pretty dissapointed cuz i was looking forward to their reaction. o well
Okay, even if you call bullshit based on the stuff DB "Omitted"....They Omitted something from Popeye as well....Sure Saitama could obliterate pieces of his planet with his full strength, but let's also remember that even WITHOUT his Spinach, Popeye can pull in BOTH the Sun and The Moon closer to Earth with just a fishing line, and with spinach, he once CASUALLY juggled the ENTIRE SOLAR SYSTEM!...It's like Boomstick said...Popeye's just on a whole 'nother level of bullshit
They didn't omit ANYTHING from One Punch Man, they just fucking SKIPPED it because they haven't read the Manga and they watched a DEATH BATTLE. Like no shit they're going to talk about the manga, they consider ALL sources, they're not limited to the anime. If they DIDN'T include the Manga it would just be an even worse stomp because Saitama has shown MORE crazy shit in the Manga. Popeye wins, hands down. He's basically god.
Or the time Popeye, with no spinach of his own, defeated a boxer who used his spinach, or the fact he moved with immeasurable speed (being in 2 places at once), or the simple fact that, simply put, Popeye's strength isn't just limitless, it's fundamentally stronger than reality itself, Saitama has no win condition, even if he used Popeye's own spinach (which wouldn't make sense since how would Saitama know it would boost him, not to mention he hates being as strong as he is so why would he get stronger with something else) he would still be well beneath a spinach-less Popeye, not that it'd matter since Popeye could just summon Spinach to get his boost anyways, effectively making them back to square 1 in terms of squaring up... TL:DR: Popeye is literally broken, Saitama's strength cannot top Popeye's bullshit even ignoring strength gaps
Sad to say, this is the first time I've ever seen these guys so blindly salty they ignore the format half of the video, where Death Battle actively tries to measure what Popeye can do compared to Saitama and Popeye still comes out on top. I fucking love Saitama myself, everyone loves the good old Caped Baldy. But nobody, not even the animators of the segment, can truly stand up to the power that is Popeye and his Spinach. However, to see such blatant salt, especially from these guys, is very disappointing
@@batayou6819 they were also like this on Kirby vs Buu you know Kirby, who’s marked by CB (the dudes who are the most renown comic website) as the 4th strongest thing ever thought of in the human brain? In case you’re wondering 1st Chuck Norris 2nd Popeye 3rd Pilgor (the goat from goat simulator) 4th Kirby
@@ripoutyourintestines5099 what does cb stand for? I want to find this list and read about it. Also I can’t believe pilgor is so strong but now that I think about it it makes sense.
@@JediBlueDog I have no idea what CB stands for same way I’ve never bothered to learn what DC Comics is supposed to stand for. Also the reason why Pilgor is so strong is because she’s literally invulnerable (in other words if she doesn’t want to take damage she doesn’t) there’s no amount of power anywhere that could kill her if she doesn’t want to. She can stretch, burn, float. It doesn’t matter her body will adapt to it. I’m pretty sure there’s comics about it somewhere that were written about her (they were fan made but the developers of the game just said they enjoyed them) and basically in these comics a corporation like the SCP foundation has been trying to contain her since birth, she was flipping semi trucks at 6 weeks old, they only found out she was different after she got hit by a car and walked away fine, she kept breaking out of containment and it was to the point where they created Goatville in order to keep her happy.
@@ripoutyourintestines5099 I have no idea what CB means but I can tell you that DC comics means “Detective Comics” They used this name after the success that Batman found in the series of the same name The company was formerly known as National Allied Publications At least that how I remember the story, I could be wrong about some details 😅 But essentially it means Detective Comics
Popeye did fight Superman in a Comic book and won. Saitama can have all the power in the world. But none of it matters when he's fighting the best Toon Force Character who can just ignore any damage done to him.
And he didn't won at that time stop the wank just because he won against Saitama who's planetary level doesn't make him more stronger than Superman who's Outerversal level
Clear bias makes them unable to see just how outmatched Saitama was. Popeye ignores full-scale reality collapse and complete disintegration. Saitama doesn’t have any additional powers beyond just being extremely super HUMAN.
Creator of OPM: his strength isn't limitless RMG: I'll ignore that The dude has toon force which is essentially fuck you the superpower, comedy always beats power and Saitama isn't a gag character
@@chrismanning2888 creator of OPM said "he's kind of a gag" this doesn't mean that he's fully a gag, he's just a kind of a gag... either way, his gag is irrelevant when u have limits, it only works in his verse or on people who can be one punched, popeye can't be one punched, Saitama doesn't even have gag feats, or at least I don't recall any toon force / reality warping feats
The only thing that was bullshit was how you guys thought that was bullshit. You guys didn’t even explain your reason why saitama would actually win and I’d love to see you try.
Okay guys, I am completely caught up with both the manga and the webcomic of one punch man and I’ll say this….there was no way in hell saitama would have won,at all
I like how he says “if he’s so strong pin him against Superman” like Superman can’t survive in realities where nothing exist and doesn’t have similar feats to toon based characters…not saying he would easily win, but it isn’t as easy as putting those 2 together since they both have relatively same feats. Whenever anime characters lose to non anime characters it’s always “put them against Superman” like y’all really missed the mark on why we put certain characters together in the first place
What's funny was there was a comic book where Popeye did fight Silver Age Superman. And Superman couldn't do anything to him. It's been done before. They easily could've included that feat if they wanted to.
@@luliu4572 see that’s cool and it makes me want to read it, I’m just getting tired of this anime character loses so put them against Superman cope. It’s like y’all want your favorite anime character to be the best but then when they lose you cope by saying pin them against Superman cause in their eyes Superman is apparently the ultimate final boss of fictional fighting lol
@@xxJose716xx that would be either Darkseid or Doomsday. and i'm talking about the ACTUAL Darkseid, i.e. the being who, just by existing, could and would shatter reality itself. Darkseid's avatars are capable of going toe-to-toe with the Justice League, that has Batman and Superman in the team, and win.
@@xxJose716xx yeah. It's a blatantly shallow argument. It's like the "but can he beat Goku" argument in every Anime Fight/Feat related RU-vid Post. I still like Blind Wave. But they're taking a dumb fun video too seriously. They need to calm down.
Literally, Toon Force trumps virtually everything. So Saitama was kinda set up to lose. Plus, he follows shonen anime rules. While Popeye is a toon, and they break the laws of reality. You seem way too salty about the guy losing. It's just the reality of cartoons. Besides it's how the old cartoons were written.
Yeah it's safe to say that even someone as tom or Jerry could be them as well and that's do to them being toons. Hell even daffy could probably bet him do to the out come of he's shorts yeah he gets better and cut and all but still in some of them comes out on top out of dumb luck
To be honest, i knew this was gonna happen from the start, im more mad about the fact that this fight exists in the first place, itd be funnier if they put like...Bugs Bunny against Popeye since they are both toon force
It really it just comedic reality warping cartoon character who low tier of with only few using more potent version like Popeye and big bunny but even they get slapped by higher tier comic character or complex cosmic horror like love craft or something from Stephen king
I wonder how high power reality warpers from more serious setting would fare against toons though (think Mr. Mxyzptlk). That, or a 4th wall breaker able to go seek objects from other fictional medias.. and can acquire D.I.P. this way, a substance specifically made to permanently kill toons and is proven to be effective.
" They're gonna use all this ridiculousness to be like 'oh he can beat Saitama' " Yeah that's literally how it works. That's an analysis. They're analyzing someone's abilities. Welcome to Death Battle. "i can already hear your fat little fingers hitting the dislike button i dont care we cant see it and neither can you" There's no reason to be so bitter about people not liking how incredibly bitter you are over, once AGAIN, a fanmade battle. Chill. The 'Return RU-vid Dislike' extension also says otherwise.
Also You guys should be ashamed for acting this way towards DB on their 10 year anniversary. There's a reason almost EVERYONE in this comment section called you out.
Them being angry of this is probably the dumbest thing ever. They literally gave them every reason why Popeye would win, and they are like "no." And his think of saying "ok do Superman vs Popeye" is equally as stupid. The exact same thing would happen. Popeye would win.
They literally stated their reasons, Saitama can't do anything to end Popeye (since toon force doesn't allow him to die unless he chooses to) and Popeye can just turn Saitama into eggs, ITS SIMPLE. Hell he had multiple other ways to end the fight then and there, like he could punch the animator to stop animating Saitama so that he's just stuck as a still image for the rest of eternity or he could force the writers to rewrite Saitama's character into just a normal person and just kill him.
Saitama can never win, BUT depending on how Saitama's nature as a gag character is interpreted, he cannot exactly "lose" either. At best, it would be a stalemate.
I know you can still see dislikes, the idea that uploaders can’t see their own ratings has already been disproven dozens of times over by dozens of people, not to mention the several tools out there to make them visible lmao But seriously, this fight was easily in Popeye’s favor. Thinking Saitama’s power is basically infinite and that he can beat anyone in one punch is probably the biggest newbie mistake I see in VS debating.
Saitama's powers aren't HAX, He doesn't manipulate the narrative to where he will always win, Saitama's only power really is his insane overwhelming strength at least in comparison to his own universe, while Popeye has a full-fledged power set with stuff beyond his immense strength like shapeshifting, negating various forms of complete and total obliteration having a punch that turns people into sausages and even native related HAX in the form of fifth wall breaks like being able to take objects from the audience and throwing a brick at his own creator as he's being drawn, despite saitama's immense strength he just didn't have anything that he could throw at Popeye to put him down for good in any feasible manner, Also saitama suffers greatly from the whole "big fish in a small pond" sure saitama is incredibly powerful in his own universe and probably the strongest character in it but in the grand scale of fiction he really ain't that strong, there are other characters like omniman and Homelander that suffer from similar problems, where because they're the strongest in their universe (or at least one of the strongest in some cases) people tend to get this conception that they're the strongest ever in all of fiction when really this isn't the case And the grand scale of fiction and stories Saitama gets stomped by a ton of characters, like post crisis Superman who has a narrative powers and once beat up his own death, John Egbert from Homestuck who has retcon powers and can only die via a just and or heroic death, Elliot from Elliot goes to school who literally can't die and has some high end meta powers where he basically has control over a native, pops from regular show who is strong enough to destroy the entirety of The regular show existence multiple times over because he's in an infinite stalemate with his twin brother and I can probably keep going Point is saitama despite being really strong especially in his own continuity is ultimately a lot weaker in the grand scale of things and had no real chance or way to put Popeye down
@@michaelthesavior8740 Elliot is from the web series Elliot goes to school and has shown that he is most likely un killable to some degree and has meta powers
Also, heres the clencher gimmick: Saitamas entire arsenal was PURE offense. Hes basically a one-trick specialist with only ONE moveset. Popeye, even without cartoon logic, has NEVER been so limited. Saitama only had ONE plan of attack. Popeye had a LOT of plans The biggest weakness saitama has: He was his own teacher, thus never actually got the varied training needed to be the best he CAN be. But given hes such a deadpan goof at heart, NOBODY takes him seriously. That and he doesnt think he NEEDS training. Which hes 100% wrong about. Id personally like that as an ending to this. Popeye gives Saitama what he really needed all along: A Real Teacher
You either didn't understand the explanation or just didn't care due to salt. There's no reason to think that Saitama can stop Popeye. Superman couldn't take him either, dunno where that came from
Think of it this way. In a previous battle, Deadpool, who could survive some of the most powerful hits in the universe, got beaten by The Mask who, just like Popeye, uses the absurd power of toon force. Hell, he could break reality just like Popeye
For once I agree with death battle Every analysis they did was correct also popeye already beaten superman and also the creator of OPM literally said that he doesn't has limitless strength but limitless potential two different things and also he isn't a gag character but a parody I love saitama but u guys are being denial sorry for that Also in the manga when he was fighting with boros the narrator literally stated that saitama got hurt a detail that they left out in the anime Also the creator has also stated that saitama isn't unbeatable
Gonna love when a grown man throws a fit when he wants someone to win cause of bias. Reminds me of a certain someone that left this channel cause no one liked him cause he was always throwing a fit and thought hewas right about everything…hmmmm…
@@Godzilla-bo4jj cause he was getting on everyone’s nerve. Also they said it was about his dog to or something. But most fans said they couldn’t stand him. He always thought he was right about eveything and if someone didn’t agree with him he would yell and slander them.
Yet again, a bunch of Saitama fanboys thinking he could beat a rubber hose cartoon man who can shatter stars and no-sell the universe being turned off.
Death Battle: Thoroughly explains things that make sense to literally anyone else who watched it Renegades: I don't agree with this. During the premier, many OPM fans were talking about how screwed Saitama was Everyone who analyzed this matchup (And analyzed every matchup Death Battle has done) have all unanimously agreed that Popeye would win, not just win, but its a massive unfair stomp. Toon force to this extreme is basically equivalent to reality warping. Popeye can literally force the fucking animator to just delete Saitama, Popeye can negate durability, he is nigh invincible, ESPECIALLY to any physical damage. All Saitama can do is punch. Yes, lemme just go ahead and punch someone who can just say no to damage. Even the fucking Death Battle debunked series that this one guy makes agreed with the outcome and couldn't find a way to debunk the outcome, like come on. You'd have to be either crazy or absolutely fucking stupid to think that Saitama should've won this
@@RuneTacticss I think regardless of logic a lot of people will deny they're unbias but ultimately cry when their favorite pick loses and say "of course" when their favorite wins. You can see this pattern in a lot of episodes especially in mainstream anime. "Popeye beat the shit out of his own animator" That line alone should have ended all of the arguments lmfao.
@@andrewd8420 i kind of get that. some battles ago with Dio vs Alucard i got pretty upset he lost. not bitter the fight didn't go my way, just the fact i didn't know a lot about Dio but was a super fan of Hellsing Ultimate. but the more i look back at it i get that he was outclassed and, though could have won, i understood that he couldn't. and grant it: i was heavily debating who would win here and, though the works of past animations and comics and the like: i had to go with Popeye. Saitama is a cool character and funny to boot, but he was not winning this.
No disrespect but you guys just came off as salty that your favorite character lost. The only unfair thing in this battle was the matchup itself, after watching the analysis there was no doubt in my mind that Popeye massively stomps Saitama, I'm saying this as a Saitama fan, I like Saitama more than Popeye even though I do love Popeye too) but I don't let my biases cloud my judgement. At best Saitama was planetary maybe even star level if you wank him, Popeye on the other hand ignored God turning off the universe and beat up his own animator, what in the actual fuck was Saitama was supposed to do to that? I this fight was even more accurate Saitama should have been the one getting one punched from the beginning, like the Korra vs Storm fight, this shouldn't have been a fight, it's a one sided stomp and probably one of the biggest stomps in DB. At least us Saitama fans can accept a loss gracefully and admit that this fight was fucking awesome.
When you think about it, literally any feat of Popeye’s by itself far outclasses all of Saitama’s put together. Popeye has given the Sun a black eye, beat the crud out of a literal 7th dimensional being, and has bullied and beat up his own animator, who’s in the real world.
These guys literally skipped over some of Saitama's analysis over fear of spoilers and then gonna try and complain that the researchers missed something, lol.
Toon force realistically is harder to actually measure since it’s more focused on the story. Like in actuality- Bugs Bunny would be the most powerful in terms of the grand scope cause of the many adventures he’s been on. Old timey black and white cartoon (who which the Mask was based off) is something that is on a completely different scale cause there is nothing really to measure. Toon Force can only be measured by feats in reality and other characters of their like.
Bugs Bunny can beat Superman and Goku at the same time, and that isn't even a joke no matter how funny that sounds. When it comes to Toon Force, treat the users as reality warpers and see if your character can withstand it.
@@shadowjab1747 he’ll sit goku down in a barbershop and cut his hair, getting rid of the super Saipan power or whatever. And then he’d just walk away from bugs sad
west Exactly, Toonforce just breaks reality no matter how you look at it. I'd actually argue that Popeye is the strongest Toonforce character because he is an experienced fighter main character while most others are not.
Look at him, look at him. His precious satire anime protagonist got what he always wanted and he thinks Superman will make it all better. How do you know Popeye won’t defeat him? You don’t, because Popeye is just that ridiculous. Besides, why are you letting a literal cartoon character destroy your love for Saitama? It’s not like these battles are cannon anyway. Go watch the show if you want to see Saitama win.
25:48 you're confusing "there is no limit to his power" with "there is no limit to how strong be can become". Superman has limitless power because he lifted infinity. Saitama has no limit to how strong he can BECOME. Same as Goku. Saitama and Goku can both keep getting stronger endlessly, but Superman is already AT infinity.
Normally I'm with you guys, but the salt is real. I love Saitama, but I went into this knowing he had no chance. It's the same as Deadpool and the Mask. Toons win, it's not fair, but the fight itself was fantastic, and they respected Saitama enough to give him that glorious moment of happiness, something he will likely never get anywhere else
The only thing that can beat toon force is an even more broken toon force, different characters have different level of toon force and Popeye is right up there with bug bunny as both can interact with the artist themselves
Dude if you cant find anything better to do than try starting an argument against a fan base cuz you really feel like arguing, you really need to get a life. And im pretty sure only like 1% of people are actually mad at the outcome. Popeye has survived things that very few characters can also claim. It was just obvious, cool fight, but very one sided.
They did measure what they could for popeye he's star level casually with multi universal durability. Saitama just hasn't shown anything comparable at all. You could put saitama at star if you used a miss translated guide book that had zero help from one an marada and that's giving him the benefit of the doubt. Also let's say saitama has infinite stats okay popeye still wins because toon force Messes with the plot and nothing saitama could do could stop popeye from you know threaten the animator. So until we see saitama do anything even remotely toon force related he can't win.
Sorry to say, I think this is one of the only times Death battle is objectively right. Saitama's whole schtick is that he's insanely strong, tough, and fast, but not only does Popeye have feats that trump all of those traits, his hax is ridiculous. He could negate Saitama's durability by just turning Saitama into inanimate objects, and surviving universal erasure makes Popeye so tough none of Saitama's punches, which at the very most would be solar system level, could realistically even hurt him. And even if you equalize their stats and still say Saitama one shots, Popeye can just say no to death by eating spinach, which he can also pull out of literally nowhere. So even if Saitama could put Popeye down, he had no reliable way to keep him down, and Saitama's own kit is far too limited and basic to keep up with Popeye's sheer versatility and hax. Personally, I love Saitama way more than Popeye, One Punch Man is one of my all time favorite series, but much like with Deadpool vs the Mask, the power of Toonforce is just absolute bs in a vs debate setting. Anyway, tangent aside, I still really liked your reaction, and it was fun seeing you laugh at the more hilarious moments in the episode. Have a good day and a merry Christmas
I would argue the actual ending of this fight is reality shatters, and Popeye shakes his head, grabs a can of paint, starts re-drawing reality into place, and tosses Saitama who was briefly unconscious but not dead a can. Saitama punches the can and a huge chunk of reality comes back into place from the explostion, and then he asks Popeye for another one. Popeye mumbles " Thisks is gettins to be ridkulous" and the scene ends.