SAM Evasion & Wild Weasel Tactics Tutorial in DCS: World 

Hey guys make sure you also watch the very end part of the video where I go over what to do when you’re surprised by a SAM site at close range! And if you liked the video please consider supporting us on patreon! www.patreon.com/Spudknocker

Spud just casually defeats like 10 missiles while carrying two huge LGBs and gas bags. Good stuff. Will use this when I'm ready to go beyond wobbling around the landing pattern.

How to evade: 1) Quick turn 2) Total black out 3) Be casual

Today I learned that Split S and crash diving to the deck in a direction that makes missiles manuveur in thick air or over calculate their lead forcing them into the ground is sometimes more than I need to do. I might have been over reacting a bit LOL. Thanks Spud. I have been practicing against SA 300. I will try some of what I learned tonight against the SA 6.

Really glad to see this tutorial man. Defending against SAMs is always a problem area for me, I almost always die. 7 minutes in and I already see where I am going wrong.

Just what I wanted to see, nice one Spud. Interesting thing I found out a while back - the F-14B's jammer actually works better versus SAM's than the jammers in any other module I own - I did a semi scientific test and it reduces a SAM's engagement range by about 5-7% over the others ( which all had exactly the same performance - go figure ) which is a small but useful advantage. Haven't tested the F-18 and F-16 jammers effectiveness though, didn't have them at the time. It's just a shame that the F-14 can't carry anti radar missiles, or anything with a launch and leave stand off capability

Nice! Next time: IR Missiles and undetected Misslie evasion! :)

13:14 dont think you mean't to leave that in LUL @SpudKnocker

Yup, will now STOP yanking on the stick so hard. Beautiful tutorial, Spud. Most of your WW stuff I already did... except the wild pull on the stick. I gotta stop that.

avoid sam but but not samantha

Excellent video man. Specially the energy equation tips and being gentle on the joystick. Liked the pause and explanations. 👍

That sound when the missile is passing by your plane

Good video and explanation, espeacially for energy management. But the first 2 turns weren't "beam" headings. The beam is always nearly 90 degres from your threat, in SEAD and air-to-air.

Hey spud! Could you do a video on accurate comms? Things like fox codes (which most people know) but mostly things like brevity for ARMs and Mavs, bombs, target destroyed, and things like that. I am at a point now where “my bomb hit the target” doesnt feel correct. There are a lot of videos covering fox codes but thats it. Thanks, and nice video!

also a good thing to note is while the A-10c is a much harder aircraft to defeat these AA systems the A-10c is meant to operate in that sweet spot near the ground, and also has a missile launch warning system that will even alert you of MANPADs. so if you think that you have a missile coming your way your best bet is to put that missile at your beam and dive for the deck, dropping chaff/flare every now and then depending on the threat type. i have taken out a few AA sites as an A-10c but its best done by a fighter capable jet, as when i did take out those sa-6/sa-15 sites i had a nice grouping of trees and a hill right at the 6 mile mark on my ingress, so all i had to do was lock my mavs onto a markpoint where i saw the AA threat, fly down right above the deck and pop above the hill, lock the mav, rifle and turn away.

Awesome video!! Also turned this video into a wicked drinking game, every time Spudknocker says - therefore - you have to take a sip. But super awesome helpful video :)

Some 737/Comercial pilots that fly on unfriendly skies need learn this or even some BFM and wildly maneuver away to evade from being accidentally shot down by a stray missile out of unfriendly high alerted SAM near Strait of Hormuz Disclaimer : Not an offense to the victims of real life accident and high respect for the one lost their life, just a random idea pop up in my head while watching this

Thank you for this tutorial, I'm particulary bad when it comes to evading SAM. BTW, that use of meteor F-14 ost is just fantastic

Do we know how many of the SAMs are active, semi-active and passive? I think I seen on Covert Cabal that some forces use ECM to jam the radio link between the missile and the ground station, suggesting some are semi-active/passive. It really becomes important when you are trying to beam the missile when you should be beaming the track radar.

The vid lacks a logical ending - you should´ve popped that SAM site in the end;)

That wing flex at the start though o.O

Cool video! I disagree slightly with disregarding missiles that are moving in your vision. For a couple of reasons. First, DCS has very primitive guidance laws for all missiles, which means they always take perfect lead pursuit. If DCS gets more realistic missile guidance implemented, you will see missiles moving relative to your vision in their pre-terminal phase. This means that a moving missile can still be tracking you. Second, I believe I've been re-engaged by SARH missiles fired by a Moscow. And I know that IR missiles can re-engage in DCS. So while the missile/radar may not _currently_ be tracking you, it's not necessarily defeated.

From my experiences of playing DCS, I learned something the hard way. Never EVER fly close to a Strela. unless you are in a mirage then that way go ahead

i have to keep some this in mind next time i run iron hand with my harrier, generally im at 50ft jinking left and right to get within kill range with sidearms and zuni/guns. works well against Sa-10's but Sa-15's and 19 are a challenge.

Just finished the book "Viper Pilot" by Dan Hampton today and I've been itching to do a Wild Weasel mission in DCS. Great book if you haven't read it. Awesome tutorial Spud!

Annoyingly this is a 21:9 video uploaded as a 16:9, so I have black bars top/bottom and sides :(

Great video. I'm sort of confused though at around @8:30 you correctly say we need to beam the missile, and that means turning perpendicular to it's flight path at you, but then draw a line that is anything but perpendicular. Missiles heading right after launch is 267 but the line you originally drew was definitely less than 90 degrees to the missiles path. The 45 degree addition seems to be more in line with perpendicular. I know I'm picking nits but did I miss something?

20:05 I think the white trails of a SAM launching at you are beautiful, cool and scary as fuck at the same time. Especially with SAMs that launch missiles with different flight paths (high/low) or if there's a lot of them at once. Like in this Falcon 4 BMS video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-deqz_Hs1mQE.html I have to say, the BMS SAM AI is a lot more nasty than the one in DCS (which tends to just fire at max range). In this case, the launching SA-2s do a saturating attack, forcing the pilot to be on the defensive so long that he's out of energy; probably because they know their PK is pretty low. The pilot does in fact do the exact manouvre of turning into SA-2s Spudknocker talked about in the beginning!

So a couple of bits to add to this. If you are maintaining good SA and see that you are outside of the threat circle of the SAM when it fires at you just doing the maneuvering alone is good enough for a kinetic kill on the missile. It just can't reach you regardless. Inside of the circle yes you use all the tricks. Also I have to disagree with a base rule of no more than 10k altitude. This seriously limits the range at which you can score kills with the HARM. Not a super big issue against the SA-6/11/Hawk but a world of difference when going up against the big boy Patriot or SA-10 systems. Those I like to come in at 32k and if I can get close enough for a shot prior to being engaged then I can magnum then turn my life insurance altitude into airspeed and turning ability to use against the incoming missiles. The lesson here is correct though that the lower the altitude the more the missile has to work. It is just using the old fighter saying. Speed is life. Altitude is life insurance. You can quickly build up a ton of smash while losing altitude and make life suck for that incoming SAM. Now if in your situation with LGBs or CBUs or some such then yes staying lower is better. Another bit which I'm surprised didn't get a mention is using wingman tactics to take out a SAM like this by coming in at different angles. Too dangerous with overfly weapons like LGB or CBU but can work wonders with Mavs. If both of you have Mavs whomever gets shot at does the rope a dope against the missiles while the other sneaks in close enough for a shot and get out of dodge. Obviously this is also SAM dependent as Patriot and SA-10 will have no issues dealing with that and you just have to run them out of missiles even for a HARM shot a lot of the times.

Love the implementation of the Heatblur soundtrack in this :D

excellent presentation and explanations, and good skills. and yes i kill my speed all the time.... gotta try to change that. thanks

13:14 gazuntite

They really need to give the F-16 HARMs soon. It will be so fun to do SEAD with it.

Funny, I never seen any UK guys in the U.S Navy ADJ. PO -3, PC 72’ -85’ VF-124, VF-121, VF-2. Too many to list... Miramar (TG)

HI, great video, but I would have really liked to see a tacview of the maneuver to better understand it.

I was super interested in this, but I could only make it 10 min in.. bro, one more 'therefor' and I would gnaw off my own arm..

but that sam site effectively kept you outside its threat ring, it did its job, what if you need to get past that ring to strike something and you have no HARMs left? how do you fly "towards" it as much as possible and strike while being able to defeat it, if at all possible

Was the RWR launch warning different a year ago? In this video it's a "didididididididi" and now it's a "beep beep beep beep beep beep repeating"

Well, it helps that the AI is incredibly stupid and keeps launching right at the edge of its missile range. If it were smarter, it would let you get inside the no escape zone and then launch.

Learned a lot here...simply explained....best advice? Get the heck out a there Or in English Bugger off sharpish 😊👍

I want proximity fuses in the game now xD

Awesome video! Love your channel! What song is the intro music? Thanks!

Very cool stuff and helpful as well. Some of your thoughts are already in my mind about beaming and bleeding the missiles energy. There's is only one thing that I have to slitghly disagree with you. If enemy radars don't appear in your RWR, they could be in RWR's blindspot. But what happens if a IR-SAM supprises you? I guess things could be a bit more nasty even if you're flying low. Do you have any advices for that situation, especialy in terms of energy managment?

very interesting...

Wow, how come you don’t destroy the Sam sites as well after you defeated the magazine?

If you have an sa-15 launch at you and you are not near cover that you can reach within 2 seconds, you're dead meat.

Why arent there any multi-stage SAM's with an air breathing second stage?

Ah, good'ol lack of proximity fuses in DCS 😁

Sick intro!

Great video, but Tomcat soundtrack while flying the Viper feels wrong lol.

You already know the F4 is blowin this up more than it already has

I don't understand what you mean by horizontal movement at around 16 and 24 minutes?

What sound pack is that Missile warning sound from?

Therefore i will like and subscribe

Played too much BMS in my life. That chaff flare low from Betty caused some butterflies in my stomach.

videos from VR are hard to watch. TrackIR is so much better for videos.

That's nice. This is updated info for me. My tactics up till now were learned back then in the Jane's F-15, always beaming 90 degrees. Now, learned about denser air and 90+45 technique and split-S. It will help a lot.

that intro was amazing

Fly low and use the terrain, use jammers, plus be ready to hit the sam site hard

Randy Cunningham learned some other lessons the hard way.

This guy sounds like the same person who narrated the NASA How to Land the Space Shuttle .

I want F-4 Phantoms in DCS Pls

Hey Spud love the vids, out of curiosity what tv/monitor setup are you using?

Well, one thing that would have been nice is to go a bit deeper in explaining sam systems. I suggest you read: www.falcon-lounge.com/falcon-bms-essentials/threats-guide/surface-to-air-missile-sa-6/ And also, those tactics are restricted to DCS as in another sims, SAM AI needs a loooot of improvement knowing there are no sam tactics modeled... Cheers

12:23 Mr President, theres been a second missile

Is it weird I'm eating a baked potato while watching a SpudKnocker video?

If I may have a request... this video + 4 HARMs killing those SAMs + low level high speed flying! Then... I’ll cancel my Netflix subscription! Amazing video Spud! Aaaaaaaaas always!

I always practice against S-300s as they're much more deadly. Or for close in practice, tunguskas.

spud I have a question. Setup for chaff and flares in your plane is setted to? 2/1? 2/2 other? and sequence repeat? And f18 works pnly in manual mode doesn't it? I remember in Jane's f18 that it worked in auto mode too and had a sort of theatered countermeasure with a long wire to avoid sam on my tail. Is it real or it was just a fiction?At last 90 degrees, push hard no lose energy going down where air is nmost dense and then 180 degree to give no chance to missile… than repeat. Correct? And this tactic works for a/a missiles also?

What an intro!!! :D Popcorn dropped to the floor together with my jaw. Simple edit but what an effect. Technical quality content, overall 10/10

Well done, great video and skill! May I ask: How do you enable the pilot on the F-16? I think that there is no such option... Also, how do you enable the Lethal Range Ring on the HSD? I cannot figure this out! Thank you!

Hey, I'm watching this on my cellphone so I can't tell if You're using labels like you mentioned for those missiles, When You switch to missile view I see no labels being displayed so I wonder what label mod do You use?

hmm A/G stores usually don't go well with the 7.3G you hit at the 25:30 mark. Wrong stores config too, I believe. CAT III should be correct. Good thing this is still in Alpha :D nice video!

Hey Spud, I watched your vid last night and can now do wild weasel finally : ) . But the in close missiles are another matter, I keep getting hit. What range do you try to shoot for to do your break? Also my speed is over 450 kias, I noticed yours down around 360, should I aim for a slower speed when breaking in close? I can avoid the first sometimes but always hit by the second. These are SA6's. I know, its just a matter of practice. Its a nice change of pace Thanks again

It’s not often that i comment on any videos on RU-vid, but i just had to tell what i thought of video. I had to smile while i watched, the way you defeated those missiles again and again was brilliant. I can’t count how many times I’ve been shot down by sam-sites by bleeding of all my energy. This video learned me how sam-site works and how to defeat it, thank you. Keep up the good work.

1st Rule of Dodging SAMs is the same as Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy: Don't Panick

these graphics make me really miss flying with trackir instead of VR...maybe I should switch back.

I think it will be more difficult to evade AAM,because of no smoke. Could you do the tutorial of AAM evasion next time? Thx!

Maybe using a sam that lunchs with a normal jet engine to transonic speed, and goes pasive on you like in TWS then at 5 miles it separates from the jet engine and turn on the normal rocket engine, going mach 3 in a few seconds a very close, also without leaving any contrails until the very last moment

Notching sa10s seems OP still. I shouldnt be able to skirt the edge of an sa10 site in notch nd turn in to smack 6s and 15s before reentering the notch

the missle was a paid actor

I’m a bit late to this video but it has really helped me with understanding tactics for briefing. Amazing video!

Do it in a Gazelle, dodging SA10 is so much fun, like a supersonic telephone pole coming at you

I know you say it somewhere in your video (or another one 😂) but what countermeassure profiles do you set? Do you have some standard ones or do you set it seperately for each mission?

Question, where can I start my training and setup with a hotas in a F16. do they have a profile or list for a hotas and a server for beginners

What about the SAM 6 having ramjet engine and being powered all way?

Great videos I'm gonna start practicing this tonight or tomorrow

Why are you on CAT I ?

Amazing tutorial! Definitely going to be putting this to the test tonight on PVE servers! :D

How many missles does an SA6 site have, they kept coming. I wanted to see you blow it up LOL

Hey this is the music the f14b tomcat plays when you turn the tape on lol

Robin Olds?

So SAMs have unlimited missiles and don’t need to reload? That’s annoying

Track IR or VR?

Great tutorial Spud! 🚀🦡

Whats the intro song name?

Tac-veiw ?

Spud, make a video to dodge those pesky SA-10s

22:35 - but you didn't explain why it is so obvious that the second missile is not a threat anymore, I'm DCS for years but I didn't dealth with SAMs much yet so it's not obvious to me, I know if I seen it up close in-ga,e but not in this view that is shown.

SA-4 IS SCARY