Sample Test - Denafrips Terminator Plus -VS- Denafrips Venus II -VS- Denafrips Ares II 

Thank you very much!

Jep! We kunnen weer. Nu de Neumann mic en dan is ook deze setup compleet en kunnen we weer een kwaliteitsstap maken.

Thanks for the compliment!

Fijn dat we kunnen helpen.

Thanks! Welcome!

Yes! It's very good.

Yes. We have a review on the Dutch website: alpha-audio.nl. It is a remarkable device. There is a version without USB as well. And you can upgrade with the REF10 clock.

Sorry... Must have made an editing mistake. :-)

@@TheAlphaAudio Not a problem at all! It just proves that one should trust its ears ;)

What you mention with respect to the reproduced piano sound seems to do with time smearing happening with certain DACs and not with others (better ones). Phase integrity information which is not preserved.

The Ares can play piano very good.The other two are better but much more $

There will be a full review this week!

Where is the review?

@@ramasuharman7962 search alpha-audio.net.

Welcome!

Indeed, it would be great to have a montage of 5 sec dac 1 , 2 ,3 and then a longer piece of 1 min. so you can really get into the song. And in the text the time captions.

Not to notice the differences. As they are recorded, you Will notice them. The recording stuff is more important.

Comparable. But in the Jade price class I like the Metrum more... Especially with DAC3.

I think dac3 will be a future upgrade for me, considering the price of the Jade as it is, with dac2 :)

@@TheAlphaAudio one final question, Jaap: have you found dacs like the Jade to be a good match with class D amps, such as the Nad m22 v1 that I'm currently using to drive a pair of Dynaudio Evoke 30s? Thanks!

@@Csaboo a neutral sounding dac like the Jade will match in any system is my experience. But why Jade and not the newer and better Sonnet Morpheus?

@@TheAlphaAudio first time I hear about it tbh, I'm reading on the brand now, makes sense... what's going on with Metrum, are they still functioning? Sent them a few emails and nobody is responding... Seems like price is considerably higher for the Sonnet, esp. given that there is some discount on the Jade according to their webshop. Thanks for the recommendation!

The only difference is the bass is bigger in the more expensive units.

Nope. Didnt mix them up... Sorry... :-). Thanks for compliment.

Pass labs pre amp and Bryston 4b sst3 power amp.

You evaluate this however you want. You could use some headphones for better results. The differences will be more obvious.

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Thanks!

Very well put.

@@TheAlphaAudio Thank you. Good to know that I haven't lost my hearing abilities (yet). Impressive setup and awesome job/efforts in capturing the differences between them. Keep up the great work. Ps: Thank you for introducing me to that awesome first song.

@@MrSanjeevsan welcome! And thanks! :-)

Over RU-vid they sound the same !

@@r423sdex no, they don't...

I felt same way, Voice is very profound in Terminator

Funny you mention timing I have the denafrips Aries pretty much the same as a rega turntable on timing in my head. Don’t know if anyone else has a rega but that was instantly the vibe I got

The DPA's are omni. They dont work well in ortf. I have a Schoeps mk8g on order to make a M/S setup like we wanted to. Delivery takes a while.

Can anyone hear 100khz ?.

@@r423sdex :-)

@@r423sdex You need infinite bandwidth in order to reconstruct the signal, especially transients

The differences between the products - dacs, speakers, amps - will stay the same... as they are absolute. Also: we offer lossless samples on our websites: www.alpha-audio.nl / www.alpha-audio.net. Just use some decent headphones and you will get a good idea of the performance.

@@TheAlphaAudio Right, so when I listen it's my own DAC that I hear, it's yours. OK, I'm out, good luck with whatever you think your doing. PS: just to make myself clear - you capture the analogue sound, then convert it to digital with a ADC. The ADC can cancel any differences you hear and may introduce coloration of its own. Then I take the digital sound on convert it back to analogue with my own DAC. This can further cancel our any differences and introduce coloration. Then I run the analogue sound through my pre-amp and amp. These can also cancel out any differences and introduce coloration. Finally, the sound goes to my speakers/headphones which, you guess it, can cancel out any differences and introduce further coloration. Then, of course, our rooms are different, and headphones don't provide the same sensation of space as your speakers do. What I hear is not even remotely similar to what you heard at the time of recording.

@@Xerxesro1 the differences between the three DACs are absolute. You're right, this is a bad test if you want to hear what a specific DAC sounds like. However, it's not for that. It's a comparison of three DACs. You are listening for how they sound different from each other, not how they each sound specifically. Of course, you are hearing it colored by your own setup, however that coloration is also uniform. The differences can still be identified because the only variables are from the DACs being switched out.

They are fun to listen to.

Ik hoor geen piep... Gek!

Op 4:50 als de muziek is gestopt hoor ik het....maar oke ik ben beetje gek 🤣

@@ESuutgrunn Hmmm... je kan gelijk hebben. Ik ga eens checken. Zou niet moeten!

Thanks for the compliment.

Bass is the hardest I think.

Thanks for the suggestions. We try to be diverse and to use well recorded but accessable music. We have used some live acoustic music.

Good question. Actually... Metrum went ahead as Sonnet Audio. Metrum still exists though. I think Sonnet is more innovative. Bot sound great.

@@TheAlphaAudio I guess I am asking which is better? Quite a price difference between DACs in both brands.

@@johnratcliffe6438 Both brands have different models.

@@TheAlphaAudio I know that. You aren't making this easy... So take Onyx and Pontus. Roughly same cost. Which is better? I want to know whether Denfrips R2R or Metrum Transient modules gives best sound. And Metrum are still selling - spoke to them about Onyx last week.

@@johnratcliffe6438 I try to get to the core question. :-). Metrum invented the technology that Denafrips now uses in it's dacs. So in a way they sound pretty similar. But... I think DAC3 sounds more transparant.

We have TAD E2's now.

I do think the Terminator is more balanced and detailed.

They were all pretty darn close. I did hear a bit of a difference, but in my untreated room with KLH Model 5 speakers, I cannot see the point in upgrading from the Ares II. They only thing I can think to add is the Iris DDC, I think that would take me up to at least to the Pontus II level, and save a few dollars. We are at the point of diminishing returns. The Ares II is the sound I was looking for, these chip DACs just kill my ears, extremely fatiguing. The Ares II solved that issue.

@@michaelwright1602 Treated or untreated the difference you will hear will be the same.I tend to agree that Ares 2 will satisfy 90 percent of your hifi needs!But if you want 100 percent satisfaction get the Pontus 2!I think that DAC can compete with x5 priced dacs and the sound it offers is not fatiguing...Pontus is like Ares on steroids with even more natural and dimensional sound.I can say that from the sound tests in RU-vid and the arcticles i have read about them.So yes...Pontus 2 is 100 percent satisfaction for not that much money...

Lucky you!

Mooi ding idd!

Yet, most people love them - Looks and sound...

I tried, but it was totally seamless to me.

Differences will het smaller, the higher you get.

That's why we have lossless samples and advice a good pair of headphones.

Thank you for your feedback.

@@TheAlphaAudio probably will get one. thanks

There is at least a difference in size and color... You have to agree on that.

@REX4340 ,you should get your ears checked out !

It is the speakers that cut off all frequencies under 100Hz. Monitors and high end audio are fierce enemies

@@Burevestnik9M730 uhhh... You are not serious I hope...