Yes, just too bad that they didn't ship Windows 10/11 or Ubuntu Linux (or some other distro) on this device, even ChromeOS/ChromiumOS would've been better than Android since it has X11 & I think also Wayland support so you could even run Steam (desktop) and LibreOffice on this device but hopefully DeX can be updated in the future so it can get X11 application support or someone unlocks the bootloader and installs desktop Linux on it; Definately better than the latest iPad in terms of feature set (for now)...
Exactly, everyone else I've seen that has reviewed this used the expensive case with the keyboard and DEX which makes stuff better for being a computer
@@kcfivetwelve They literally have no idea what to do with android tablets lmao. The fact that he still thinks android tablets are lacking without even knowing about dex or the s7 ultra from 2 years ago and how capable it was is telling of this whole video.
if anything I want MORE HOSTS on shortcircuit! the quick back and forth stating almost bulletpoints of product made it so much fun than solo monologue!
I personally use the S8+ right now, and it's absolutely great. I use it for school too, which works very well. I couldn't bare to have the notch on the ultra.
@@cadenchurchill4296 The iPad could easily run a full Mac OS desktop environment when connected to an external display. But apple hates their customers
@@manojgail same as previously said in europe, was quite shocked when I saw that they only got 5G on the S8+, bc I actually use the 5G Ultra and am pretty happy with it
5G is an option for the Ultra and if you want a desktop experience, practically every Samsung phone and tablet comes with Dex nowadays. Kinda disappointed that there was a whole "tablet as a computer" discussion without showing Dex.
I'm fine with them not showing it much, they might do that LTT video comparing it as a PC to the iPad. But not even mentioning the existence of Dex felt really strange to me while they were having that discussion.
It seemed like everyone that was apart of this video had no idea what Android has been capable of, let alone all the good samsung tablets. As a big tech channel thats sad. And with everyone there talking about specs, not one mentioning dex seemed like it was on purpose, like this was a video made to dunk on Android devices. Rather then review one.
@@sensnowy yeah I get that but…how do you not know what DeX is at this point? They’ve had it for years on all their tablets and most of their phones(hell, my dads old s8 supports DeX)
I was screaming "turn on dex" as they are talking about if it is usable as a PC replacement. I have been using my Tab S6 for almost all of my day to day tasks since 2020.
I'm pretty sure it does have double tap to wake and lift to wake, it just has to be turned on in the options menu. I have the predecessor (S7 plus), and it supports both. Also, considering the cover for $70, the price is actually pretty good for an original Samsung cover (apple as well), especially with that nice kick stand. If you look up the price for the keyboard cover then you've got a reason to complain; the price for this one seems alright to me.
I feel that, as others previously mentioned, DeX should have beed discussed as a main feature of this tablet. Most people can use this tablet for most of their computing needs (within reason) thanks to this feature.
Right? I got on a bit of a tablet hype after watching the LTT budget video, seeing if I could use the Tab A6 Lite for school notes. Then I looked at refurbed S6s, THEN, I found the S7 FE. The size of the S7 plus, even the same size and lightness of the Tab S8 Ultra being reviewed here, it's shocked me how good it is. It beat out my Dell Latitude I was using by a mile, and it made me realize how far tablets had come (for context,t he last tablet I used was an iPad 2. Not Air 2, the 2.), and just how easy it was to replace your laptop with a tablet now. Now, is it my main workstation? No. That's my PC's job. However, as a portable entertainment center, workstation, and even one's only computing device, I say that Samsung's tablets pack way more of a punch than many are letting on.
@@sporadiceel6246 Exactly! For basic office stuff like Excel, Word, web browsing, and basic stuff like that, you can definitely replace your laptop with a DeX tablet like this one. It's good to have a main PC, but at least you can leave it at home and save yourself the back pain by using a Dex tablet.
Also, Apple iPads may be powerful, but Apple keeps them heavily segmented to avoid cannibalizing their Mac lineups. The same thing with iPhones, good luck using features like split-screen or having a stylus in one of them. This is coming from an iPhone user, btw, so I'm not hating on Apple, I'm just saying that this video hyped iPads too much instead of looking at what makes this specific tablet unique and actually useful.
8:51 I do often find that people who come over from iPhone to Android have complaints, and they don't realize most of what they don't like can be changed from factory. In my limited experience with iOS stuff, Apple doesn't seem to give the same kinda of control I guess?
@@FalseOracle617 Riiiiiiight. Samsung tablets Tab S lineup has been similar to their phones just better operating . larger screens. back in Android 12 they (google) even started Tablet specific OS targeted are native apps for them . Tab S7+ has been running great no issues. 4 years ago (2020). The tab S5 and S6 were also great.... Not sure what DECADE you were referring to.
I know it's been mentioned in the comments a ton of times, but at least a mention of dex would've been nice, because after using dex it really changes your view on the capabilities of android tablets
Dex is only for Samsung products but on the other hand you have native mouse and keyboard support for Android in general so that's a massive plus for computer alternative purposes
ngl when random cameos happen on set, it increases my amusement factor by a quite a bit.The dynamics and interactions between everyone is just so fun. I feel like working at Linus Media Group is a blast and is another reason why I wish lived in Canada. I'm not saying to force these events, but honestly let them keep happening.
This has to be one of my favorite ShortCircuit videos... Horst's disdain when Riley said, "Oh, are you switching to Android permanently?" was fall out of my chair level hilarious. Love it!
I think it's because this is on Shortcircuit, it doesn't have to be a full on review. Just how it looks and feels at first viewing, kind of like when you try gadgets on display. They don't have all of the specs and functionalities on hand, just the basic info that you can easily see on display.
big tablets like this are great for musicians. Being so big, you can read sheet music easily, you can have all you music easily accessible without flipping thru a giant ffolder, or for me, muiltiple folders. I might have to get something soon. the guy who sits next to me in my concert band has an iPad pro and flips paages using a pedal on the ground
This was the best episode of short circuit in a while, I loved the pure chaos of having multiple host argue almost bullet points and you guys at LMG should make more videos of people on opposite sides (like iPad users and Android tablet user like in this video)
You NEED to give DEX a go! You dont need a separate monitor to use dex on samsung tablets PS: You can get it with 5G in regions outside of the US, it's available in Asia, Europe, Middle East and Oceania. No idea why it's not available in north America
sadly not in my country. they don't even have LTE options but they did try the last time for a bit with s7 tab, but i guess sales proved there is no point. Samsung did pretty well with tablets in my country, even a surprise to their sales team as I was told by some of them. Dex is amazing but I hope it gets more support as we go along. For now, i just want a full functioning web browser. Samsung internet is alright but the problem is I can't sync it with my PC/Mac/Linux (yes i have all 3 haha) with the bookmarks and stuff and I just need somethign like that. I use Opera and Brave but those two on the tablet/android whatever , isn't so great . it's OK, but it's not great. I also have extensions to run, which Kiwi browser does well to an extend but also, not so great. The only way i figured to make it work was running Linux from termux and using the firefox browser. pretty good so I'm just wondering if android 13 will have KVM natively. that would be so cool
I had the LG G6 and double tab when it was flat on a desk to just check what notifications were there or the time was great. I've switched to a lower end Sony 10 iii and it doesn't have it, and I notice it. Especially since I hold it in my left hand, and the side fingerprint sensor does not get on with my fingers.
Could you please make a video on Samsung DeX with a variety of type covers with the S8 series? This might be the best way to see how close we can come to it being a possible laptop replacement / alternative.
I'm afraid I don't like this video. Riley seems too prejudiced against Samsung and android tablets, and didn't talk about features like Dex mode and the keyboard attachment, or the HDR capabilities among other things.
He even calls the screens apple use "mini oled" instead of "mini LED" (what they actually are) and approaches amoled as if it's some last gen tech that he expects to just flat out be worse. Amoled has pixel by pixel illumination so it's better in a lot of ways than mini LED. Just doesn't get as bright.
Gotta agree with that. That's something i noticed with Riley in short circuit videos - he appears to be pretty prejudiced in many areas of tech. I tend to avoid videos that feature him nowadays
I am so glad they are adding high refresh rate on their tablets. I only really use tablets for reading, but the high refresh rate makes a huge difference for speed reading.
No, don’t kick them out Jono! 😂 I love it when Horst joins the set because I love having the contrasting ideas between Apple and Android/PC. ( you also get to see how apple products work with other non apple products)
Honestly I love when other people come in to check things out and comment and nit pick them. It gives off a great studio vibe and it's really nice to have the extra opinions.
The S8 ultra is my first Samsung/Android tablet. I've had 3 ipads prior, most recently an ipad air 4. The ipad feels a bit more solid and the processor is faster. But, that's kinda it. Dex is able to do desktop versions and Samsung Notes is my favorite bit of software in any eco system.
@@aa-tx7th Procreate was slow and twitchy on mine as well. I'm using sketchbook on the s8. So far so good. Definitely prefer the control with the s-pen vs the clunky apple pencil as well.
Android tablets are hated for reasons, but I think everyone REALLY blows those out of proportion. Sure there are quite a few apps that don't work as a tablet, but there's far more apps on Android than the app store. So just find an alternative, and if not you can still use it in portrait. The only real downside to an Android tablet is you pay for the OS really, since for a while they haven't been competitive in hardware.
@@biasedthoughts i honestly also prefer the S-Pen over the Apple Pencil. I draw in Ibis Paint because i prefer the Brush options, but i prefer the brush engine in Sketchbook
@@aa-tx7th Interesting. The current iPad Air's with the M1 chip in them absolutely blitz the competition. I'd be surprised if you found a tablet that outperforms an M1 iPad especially with Apples optimization.
Tbh I don't really think like it's a well prepared video... it's missing so many great software features (even the best one which is DEX), no spen impressions which is kinda a big deal in a tablet, also saying that "android tablets are finally getting better" is misleading to say at least, since the s7 series tablets from Samsung were really similar and are amazing. Also - its not "mac book notch". It was released before "mac book notch".
Since I have a Tab S7, I basically don't use my laptop anymore. It absolutely can replace a laptop for most use cases, especially with the keyboard case and Dex mode.
Meanwhile I plan to switch to windows tablet because I need more complex things like contents when i write my science projects in ms word (android version has a very narrow, basic functionality) and some other minor stuff and taking a 13/15,6 inch laptop is not an option since i want something lightweight
@@mitahenare8901 I've had an iPad Air in the past, it was quite frankly terrible for anything other than watching videos and reading ebooks. The Tab S7+ and now the S8 Ultra are way better than any iPad I've used for my use case. But to each their own.
@@michaelryan1767 how lomg ago did you had a ipad? I had a few and changed towards a tablet because it was better for me. Changed back now and apple is so much more for me. They changed alot over time
This was a great video! Riley and Johnathan together remind me of the old Mac VS. PC commercials, but more fun due to the unscripted chemistry both hosts have. More please
Yeah, defnitely want to see a follow up with this in regards to DeX and a deeper dive into its featureset. I agree with Riley, I want to see these devices succeed.
You know, I’ve always wondered why Apple doesn’t just make the iPad (or at least the iPad Pro) horizontal by default. As for the Samsung tablet, I guess the camera module really is that big if they have to put in a notch.
@@sensnowy nah nah nah they didn’t intend for you to use it sideways, the camera was still at the top. The display driver was just on the on the other side and it was a bit noticeable, because it was on the longer side. It would be nice if they actually designed for this use case.
Even their cheaper A series lineup have the quad speaker arrangements 🙄 this is why I feel like shortcircuit is somewhat pointless because it's just a very brief usually uninformed overview that frequently has to have stuff thrown up on screen to correct wrong information
@@JagsP95 think it's also dependent on thr Host. Riley especially appears to only like certain brands and only talks positively about the brands. Noticed that with him down talking anything android
I really prefer a 7" I use my crappy Amazon 7 to read on a lot and it is more comfortable, I really wish Samsung would upgrade their 7" models and lower other pricing a bit..
man it really is true the second someone praises android an apple fanboy with no soul(cause apple owns it) comes slithering out of the wood work to gibber about why your wrong....kinda funny
What you said about the Apple Pencil only having one use, you can literally use it how you used the S Pen and it actually has more tap-control options even…
6:43 "Why do you want something this big?" Dude, the moment Apple release something equivalent or bigger screen size to s8 ultra - name it Ipad Pro Max / Ipad Pro Ultra / Ipad Pro 14 and even Ipad Pro 16, i bet this man will have different impression/attitude from what he had with samsung tab S ultra Such typical short-sighted so-called 'tech person'
I really want to see a tablet, especially one this larger, include multiple ports on the edge. Like come on, there is room for 3 ports and a headphone jack down there.
@@Tiger9194 honestly, the notch is fine. I've had my S8 Ultra for about 2 weeks now, and I literally don't notice it. When in DeX mode, it covers nothing important, and when watching videos, it pretty much always blends into the black bar at the top due to the 16:10 ratio.
@@michaelryan1767 The notch is just a lazy excuse to copy apple, that's all it is. Keep some bezel for the cameras and there won't need to be one to begin with.
@@Tiger9194 only an Apple fanboy would think that Apples reasons for a notch are totally legitimate but anyone else doing it (with a much smaller notch, might I add) is just copying them.
I like the results you can get from Goodlock, but Goodlock is completely shit tier software. First of all: Garbage name. "Goodlock." Why would I look for UI customization by that name? I guess in a very early version of the software it was only for customizing the lock screen? Second, it's not really one app but like, 15, that have to be installed and updated individually. And of course, every time they push a new version of Android, Goodlock breaks for awhile, and then it's different once they do get it going again. Samsung could lean into the customization aspect and really build Goodlock into OneUI, but they don't. Instead it feels like something six junior devs do off the clock.
@@thegardenofeatin5965 idiotic post. Good lock IS a side project by the devs- 6 of them. And it's modular BECAUSE it's less bloat and lets the user install only what they want. Finally, no shit updates break it, if something modifies the system and you change the system, obviously it's not going to work
Honestly, I really like the random interruptions and other people invading the set. Made the video way more interesting, and the curiosity with the tablet from others made me more curious myself.
this is short circuit and like he said @16:14 ... its an unboxing and shorcircuit always been more of a first hands on instead of full review hence why they not include performance or any kind of test so calm your tits
I love these impromptu interrupts by others. It's more authentic and they always seem to have a different and unscripted response giving unique insight. I love what Mr. MacAddress has to say and his input. Definitely one of my favorite ShortCircuit videos.
I've had my Tab S7 for around 6 months now and I'm super happy with it. As a truck driver here in the UK, it's one of the best pieces of kit to travel with.
@@jazzmickge1 that's amazing! But the simplicity of Daf xf or cf get my attention more. Although Volvo is my favourite heavy vehicle company from the west, Hino (a sister concern company of Toyota) is my most favourite for their champion reliability, cheap spare parts ability and maintenance. Can you inform the chances of getting part time job in Manchester or Bolton?
Even just the base S7 has been great for the half a year I've had it. It's weird when channels like this cover the S8 series like it's some noteworthy change, when it's actually just a minor spec bump with a new model that has an even larger screen. Android Tablets like this have been pretty good for a while now as long as you don't need some very specific iPad OS exclusive Apps.
the tablet dose have a sim card it is a nano sim card under the Sd card slot its on Samsung's official page just for clarification (us model as far as i know)
Watching this on an Android tablet (S6 Lite). They've come a long way, and can really meet the needs of most people, sometimes better than iPads. Kudos to Samsung for persevering.
Most people are poor. If their pc is $600, their tablet, should be $300 or less. Don't ask me why their phones are 600-1000+ though, for many 300 or less, though.
@@bipbop3121 Was going to say! I just checked and the S8 Tab base at 128Gb is >700! I expected something around 500 at worst, but this much can get a robust laptop with that especially if I were to go all out on the Ultra/Plus!
When you were talking to Jonathan about how much of a PC it can be compared to the iPad, you should've switched it into DeX mode and seen his reaction xD
This review has really frustrated me, the amount of times there was a complaint about something and the solution to the complaint was a setting or hardware feature that he didn't know about, just screamed unprofessionalism. This didn't feel like a review, it felt like a first impression, but it isn't presented that way. If you're going to publish a first impression style video, and in that process of first impressions you make a mistake (which is totally expected in the format), there should be editors notes correcting it on the screen.
Someone is bound to reply "but shortcircuit doesn't do reviews they only do an overview of products" my response to that is: what the fuck is the point of the channel then if none of these products ever feature on LTT
I'm actually potentially interested, can we get a deep dive on this tablet series? Since I'm not into the Apples a tablet hasn't been on the table in a long time but this might change that. I will also admit I haven't looked at Android tablets in years, is there anything on a similar level to this that isn't Apple or Samsung? Things I would want to know for the review: - How is the battery life? I potentially want to use this for college. - How well does the desktop mode work? - How is reading text for a good amount of time? Like reading an e-book for an hour. Does the oled just burn your soul with its brightness or does it burn through your battery? On a side note, I really like Johnathan is giving Android a serious shot. I know it won't make him switch as Apple does genuinly have many advantages but so does Android, especially when it comes to customization and personalization. That has always been the main reason I was unable to switch to Apple. I have some many small things I do in a specific way because they work for me and Apple's way often just does not gel with me. That and some of the silly limitations of certain apps/base functions. Like, yeah I get you market privacy but if I want to record my calls, something that has saved my butt on several occasions when talking with businesses, I don't want my only option to be connecting my call to some random persons external service so they can mail me the sound file. That is objectively dumb and very insecure. Anyways, that's a tangent :P If Apple let users customize just a bit more I would switch in a heartbeat. I don't want to be tethered to Google. It's bad enough that RU-vid is the only video platform that is worth using.
hey there bud, so i own the tablet and maybe its been a while but i have quite some answers for you! 1.Battery life is pretty good, i use it mainly for editing, streaming videos, drawing, or just starndard stuff id do on a laptop and it holds up well. 2. the dex mode gives you the feeling of working on windows. i do love the way it feels like one too. i cant really answer that as i dont have many ebooks on it but when i do, ill answer you!
I'm a few minutes in and the review bothers me. First Samsung has been producing premium tablets for years comparable to iPads(not saying better, but as a premium product), so you can't treat the S8 series as a sudden attempt to compete. Next Riley complained that iPads have cellular connectivity, well so does Samsung tabs, like Apple you can choose when you buy if you want that feature or not.
6:06 the iPad Pro is MiniLED, not MiniOLED. Plus OLED has a superior image quality compared to MiniLED as of now, since MiniLED suffers from really bad blooming issues. Kinda odd take overall to be honest.
not completely True the mini led had better HDR support and color accuracy, the blooming is bad on the iPad pro but it's much better on the new MacBooks so the second generation mini led is gonna be really good along with better software to minimize blooming which is really only an issue at angles or in dark rooms
@@The_MEMEphis “is gonna be really good” You review products based on what they are *today*, not what some company promises they will be at some point in the future.
The guy is with such an "android tablets are bad" attitude that he can't even tell the tech behind the screens, he just wanted to say he expects it to be worst. It's honestly disappointing to see.
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There are other manufacturers other than Apple, you dont have to compare everything to an Apple product... sheesh!
I own one and I must say I really love it. I had the option to choose between WiFi and the 5G option and tbh I just need WiFi on this stupid big thing. Performance wise this thing can pack a lot. Even some rather performance hungry games with 3D model rendering and that stuff. No overheating and no great battery drainage. And the DeX mode for working makes it to a true office tablet. All in all it is a pretty decent combatant to the iPad in my humble opinion.
Pricing puts it firmly i5 Surface Pro territory. The 1135G7 is going to run circles around the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1. Only real bonuses are the 5G connectivity and OLED display. But for pro-work, I'd go for the Surface for SoC performance and full fat desktop apps. What I really want to see Samsung do is make some kickass competitors to the iPad and iPad Air. The Tab S6 Lite and S7 FE are woefully underpowered compared to even the base iPad. The A13 Bionic absolutely smokes the SD 750G. Of course I'd rather stick a fork in my eye than go back to iOS, but Apple still does have the better hardware overall.
i have been using the tabS7 plus, there are many features such as the ability to change screen density and utilize the full display's resolution / scaleing in devolper settings plus floating apps is a paid app and it's a must for floating app short cuts forgive me i am disleque
To be fair. The S6 was a GREAT tablet. The S7+ was till recently one of the best tablets on the market with THE best screen on any tablet. Android has really been advancing mostly thanks to Samsung over the last 2-3 years. As an artist I love the flexibility my S7+ gives. I always saw Procreate as too limiting.
I have the tab s6 and man that s6 s7 and s8 tablets all have the same spears and their great for movies. The dolby atmos upscaling is incredible actually has good stereo seperation
They haven't really prepared this video at all, they can do so much better. I know in the US is all about apple but the rest of the world does exist and Android rules over many markets.
Samsung tablets are useless trash compared to ipad because M-1 chip is 3x more powerful and will last significantly longer. Tab s8 ultra is just a cool looking toy for 1-2 years.
I have the Tab S6. I would say even those models were comparable to iPads, but everyone assumes they're bad so no one looks at them. The Tab S6 was cheaper than a comparable iPad and it came with the pen included, not as a seperate purchase. I use mine for watching videos and drawing. The pen is really great, and it works like a Wacom stylus, and the speakers and screen are excellent. Battery life is still many hours after a couple years of owning the tablet.
@@SuperFrodo95 afaik they are using wacom tech on their spen, i have s6 lite and compatible with my old stylus from wacom. Maybe its entry level wacom stylus i dunno wich model tho
