UPDATE: Samsung have addressed the issues with HDR gaming in firmware 1007.3 which is now public. We still have some issues with how Samsung has handled quality control for this product and there are lingering problems (see here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8T7pogOgS_M.html ) however we can tentatively recommend the Neo G9 again
i got the old g7 1st gen of Qled, HDR 6 with 6 dimming zones, it doesnt do HDR well... but regular gaming is great for a VA. the colors and contrast and black levels are amazing to me still. i havent yet tried an Oled monitor or TV, im going to wait for the tech to mature, in 2025 im planning on uppgrading to a high end OLED or micro led 32 ish gaming monitor.
There is a lot of things I apreciate about samsungs new gaming monitors. First, the response times are very well suited for adaptive sync. Second, the pricing is not outrageous. Third, they are really innovating here. I'm going to be on the lookout for a cheaper 500$ ish monitor mini led monitor, and Samsung will be the first place to look. They are genuinely caring about the enthusiast.
IMPORTANT UPDATE: A lot of people have been asking us about the Samsung Odyssey Neo G9's broken HDR while gaming with retail units. At this stage, until Samsung fixes it, we DON'T recommend buying it. Do not buy or pre-order the display until it's fixed because it's a major flaw/defect. We've been discussing the issue with Samsung for a week and a half now and will update you when they explain the issue or fix it. We aren't sure whether it's an issue with the display firmware, GPU drivers, or Windows. We've been able to replicate it using an Nvidia test system with the latest firmware, but not to the same extent on AMD test systems, which is odd. You can see more information and user reports in this thread: www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/p0gloy/my_findings_after_a_full_weekend_with_the_neo_g9/
It's a shame Samsung did not include an Nvidia G-Sync Ultimate ship for such a high price HDR focused gaming monitor. Seems to be the dumbest omission. Hope they can fix this issue with firmware. My unit shipped so will have to check it out and return if needs be. I was going to sell my asus pg35vq but now will just by a monitor arm for it.
Some users are reporting issues with the Neo G9's latest firmware. We've let Samsung know and are looking into this, with some behaviour different to when we tested the monitor. We'll provide any updates when we hear them. You can read more about the issues in this Reddit thread: www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/p0gloy/my_findings_after_a_full_weekend_with_the_neo_g9/
I will also try to hunt down especially this issue now…. I have made some comparison videos also one about Nvidia G sync when HDR is activated compared to AMD with HDR
The videos by Retrocave show the issue I am seeing on my Neo with Nvidia quite well. In RU-vid HDR everything works just as expected, even on PC with Nvidia, but in Games it just looks absolutely wrong until HDR is disabled. Maybe you could get someone from Nvidia to comment?
Yeah mine comes September 10th, so they have till October 10th to either fix it or acknowledge there is an issue and promise to fix it or sadly I'll have to return it. :-/
Can you please bring up why HDMI2.1 does not support DSC on the Neo with Samsung? It is fully supported by latest gen GPUs and HDMI 2.1 cables. No reason why it shouldn't be added to a $2000 monitor!
This is way too wide for most game, but perfect for racing and flight sims. Sad thing is I am into both, guess I will just salivate at the monitor, knowing it will be years before price drop enough.
21:9 is the best middle ground. 32:9 isn't for me either but I love my 21:9. I'm hoping for a true 4k ultrawide 21:9 to come with specs like this neo G9.
The only genre I would (mostly) not use this for is real-time strategy / MOBA, to be honest. If those games are not specifically geared towards 32:9, the minimap will be too far off to the corners, which will impact playability by quite a large margin. Even that disadvantage vanishes, though, as soon as the development team has accounted for this kind of display. Everything else is highly immersive and amazing to play in 32:9. Only 32:10 would be slightly better in my opinion.
considering how much the G7 costs....if they made a g7 ultrawide "nano" say 165 or 180hz. it would prob still cost 12-1600$ 1600 esp if it was 240hz but 34-38" 21:9
@Donnie Kress What is wrong with 32:9? If Samsung did make such a version it would simply be the same height but missing some screen in your peripheral vision. If you like curved ultrawides and can afford this then buy it you simply won’t regret it it’s that simple. Ok you might have a small desk but if you can afford this you can probably afford an upgrade on that too.. Ofc you’ll need a 3080 or above to game on it but again...
@@DystopianUtopia I have a 3080. With how i work I like to have a second monitor in portrait orientation next to my main monitor. Currently have a 34” 21:9 and I think it would very inconvenient to add much more width and still use that second monitor the way I need. I could be wrong though.
exactlly and LG already announced 43" cx and c1 launching supposed to be this year, im guessing at least by q4 for the new game launches. supposed 999$-1099$ for the cx and 100 more for the c1. BC lg claims they can cut more TVS from the same glass, in fact they had been cutting an in-efficicent amount of 48" glass vs 55" that they had to sell the 48" for more until they developed a process that could entail more glass/tvs from the same sheet for 48" which theyre now adapting to 43". At that price point considering potential blk friday 100$mark downs. Ill be selling my budget VA 1440p 21:9 for one ideally a c1 after seeing the responsetime reviwes at all hz. I can just see me getting more use out of one over 5+ years vs an ultrawide monitor. I could afford an entire 4k capable gpu with the price difference of those 43" models and a g9 neo, plus ultrawide i find is just too inideal for competitive fps, as great as 21:9 is for racing/flying pve, mmos/arpg any loot based games. If i play fps on a 16:9 watching content on 21:9 is moot as well bc side by side theres still black bars in between the content and my 16:9 even if a 34" mi lines up perfectly with a 27" and matches my LG 27" bezel perfectly. yet for GTA or other games on the 21:9 its nice for watching content on a 16:9. Moba is also meh on 21:9 bc of the screen movement aspects. Id have to set a custom speed and screen move hotkeys on my side mouse buttons for 21:9. Ultrawide definitely has its place for games like fifa and forza though im just willing to walk away for a 4k display that isnt curved. Just looking at the price of lg 38" ultrawides or even some "HDR" next gen capable 21:9's that will cost more than these LG oled tvs with low response time and no overshoot, i couldnt imagine paying more for ghosting and overshoot in this day and age when we have options unlike 2017-2019 since we also lacked gpus for an oled or 4k display.
@@anhiirr yep I agree. I love my Alienware ultra wide now it’s great for pretty much everything. While this monitor looks great I don’t see the point of spending $2k when I can spend less than that and get a tv/monitor with superior display technology by virtually every metric outsid me if brighteness, but even then oled doesn’t need the brightness of led due to having infinite contrast
@@anhiirr LG might release 42” OLED next year. And it would be C2 then. CX means 2020 model, C1 2021 model etc. So far we only know that the production of panels will start this year, but this might not be true anymore. No news in a long time.
@@kiisseli1337 but i hear LG is going to make CX in 43" among others they said sell high to the gaming demographic and that they wanted the price point to be competitive. Hopefully they make 43" C1's bc the testing has it looking really good. Esp if the c2 is going to cost more than the c1 ID and im sure either you or others would rather prefer a cheaper or cheaper options but still oled and low responsetime with low overshoot
Meh... I used a C9 as a pc gaming display for two years and it wound up getting burn in / uniformity problems. OLED is a bad choice for a multi-purpose PC display
LG C1 OLED requires double of power consumption, but has not more screen space. OLED seems to be quite inefficient in this size. For work, the Samsung G9, Neo or not, is perfect.
@@astarothmarduk3720 Anyone who buys the G9 Neo for gaming over the C1 is insane. The $2500 price tag is ludicrous. You can get a C1 brand new for $1300. That's half the price for a 4K120 OLED w/ GSYNC/Freesync.
@@madpistol except you have to replace the oled after a couple years once it has uniformity issues... OLEDs are not suited to desktop use unless you like replacing your $1500 display every 2 years. OLEDs are only suitable for pure content consumption, not for variable desktop pc use
@@bigmack70 Where are you getting your info from? I’ve been using my CX 55 for 1.5 years now with around 6400 hours on the clock, both for work and gaming, and I have had zero issues with it. Stop spreading this FUD. EDIT: I see you had a bad experience. That’s understandable.
Not 4K? Hell no~ 1440p will be not good for 4K videos and moive. I want all the detail of 4K videos, especially movies. So made one of 2160p option, otherwise I wouldn't consider it.
I don't think it will for at least another 5 years. Placing that many more LEDs and making software and hardware to control them individually will never be cheap. It's just the issue with complexity where it will come down in price but never be cheap. We will more be waiting for things like QNED if you want cheap with similar qualities.
The display industry doesn't improve that fast. A monitor similar to this would cost close to 50% of its current price five years from now, if history is to be considered. Don't expect technology of this caliber on below 1000 usd displays before 2026!
it's priced right between the 35vq at 1999 and the 32uqx at 2999, i think at these prices just get the g9 if curved and uqx if ips/flat. The 35vq definitely needs to drop in price.
This kind of LCD will never reach midrange pricing (talking around 500 dollars) in my opinion. In a few years time these things will be replaced by microLED-panels, which will then have a chance to become more commonplace over time and therefore eventually be affordable. These will not be ordinary LCDs anymore, though. You can see what happens with last years FALD displays once that they are succeeded (even though there are no direct successors, look at X35 / PG35V for example) - production simply seizes and you cannot get them anymore. They are simply too expensive to make and have too narrow an audience to be sold at lowered prices.
@@992BlackShadow Obviously it would be an enthusiast thing but I play at 5160x2160 using DSR on my 3440x1440 monitor all the time and frame rates are actually very good with my 3080 TI. For multiplayer competitiveness the 3440x1440 is better for high fps but for single player games I use DSR to go 4k ultrawide and there hasnt been a game I couldn't get 30 fps+ at max including cyberpunk 2077 with all RT enabled. Usually its 50fps+ actually absolutely maxed for the average Triple A game.
If only these monitors didn't have an absolute ton of quality control issues. Perhaps, after 4 or so tries, they've finally ironed them out, but I doubt it. I've had 2 Odyssey G9's, both returned, and got a CRG9 instead (exact same, just less curve and hz basically) - all 3 had / have annoying issues, like loud plastic pops when it heats up / cools down (all 3, but the CRG9 is not too horrible), G-Sync issues (all 3), panel gaps up top (all 3), along with the standard issues like light bleeding and so on. Too many to list. I've kept the CRG9, because it's right at the edge of what I can live with in terms of issues, but the G9's were not. I might actually buy a Neo G9 if all of these issues are solved, but I just don't see that happening. And I'm not shelling out the equivalent of $2200 to find out. Most reviewers don't notice or don't care enough to talk about it, because they don't have to live with the monitor for years. So only the blatantly obvious issues are talked about. But when you work from home, heat up and cool down the monitor several times a day, and generally sit in the vicinity of it all day, it's infuriating. I've stopped buying Samsung TV's now as a result of these monitors, partly to support Samsung less, and partly because I've had numerous issues with their TV's too. All that said, it is wonderful gaming in 32:9, when the game supports it properly. Just be prepared to mod some games to get proper support. I really like the picture quality on these monitors too; particularly the vibrant colors. Probably shit for editing, but it's great for playing games.
Lg is the same way. 34gn850 you can’t adjust anything in hdr mode beside brightness and sharpness. Lg thinks they know what’s best for your eyes and what you like and what you want in your viewing experience…
*Sees title* Ohhhhhh maybe I can replace my LG CX 55 with this smaller monitor now. Sweet. *Hears $2500 price tag* hahahahahahahahahahaha no. (C1 48" is $1300 brand new) If it was $1500, I'd say this is a good monitor. For $2500, my CX seems like an absolute bargain for the amount of performance you get.
Because probably 48 at 16:9 inches is too big on a desk. One could run the 48 inch at 21:9 but it wouldn't be curved, and at that size, the curve really matters.
@@pedrosoares7273 but this one is even bigger horizontally though? that seems like a pretty weak argument, u still have to be same distance away from either display
oled on a monitor isn't usually a good ide as there are way too many static objects on screen a lot of the time and the dreaded burn in effect. That's basically why they are also some of the least common monitors
@@pyronic120120 I feel like burn in can be adequately mitigated with screensavers, hidden taskbars, and the tv pixel repair cycle it does when powered down I guess it depends if someone is fine with having some minor burn in at 3 or more years of usage. If I was already buying an expensive display I'd take the oled and chance that and get something else down the line if it bothered me rather than compromising heavily with lcd tech now.
I mean I bought a PG27UQ working minimum wage. It was on sale for $1200 due to low sales and trying to get rid of stock. Guess Amazon bought way more than people were willing to buy at launch. Noticed it tends to stay out of stock more now.
Crazy, this one would cost 2 minimum wages here in Germany but yeah if you actually dont need to pay anything else ofc. I would not want to buy this because its just to thin. I am a 16:9 dude and dont want to change that. My next monitor also needs to have that be somewhere around that 50".
@@irony8908 I mean I plan to use it for the next like 10 years so I think it was a fantastic decision. I now make far more than minimum wage and have my own car. Just a used thing but wanted to wait for good electric cars to come to the market. Now my job is adding electric chargers so I wouldn't even have to pay to charge it. Sounds like I made the right call with how my existing car was only $2000. Plus nearly 3 years later the successor to the monitor still hasn't been released yet. No intentions on a 32 inch either so there wouldn't even be anything to upgrade to if I wanted to. I know miniLED wouldn't come out fast and QNED is likely another 2-3 years out for the monitor market. When that comes I will buy one and shift this to my second monitor, kick the TN 1440p I still have (got it for $250 like 4 years ago). Good lifespan for an only decent monitor.
Something is wrong with the Gray-to-Gray Performance tables and this isn't the first time seeing it. In this video the LG 34GN850 has a 6.01s G2G response time, in the actual test video on the channel from last year it has a 3.91s G2G response time. That's a big discrepancy. From my testing the panel is more likely to have a 5-6 ms response time though.
@@TannexGaming No, that is exactly it. They went with a more stringent gamma corrected colour transition model at the same time they introduced cumulative deviation.
@@TannexGaming Yes, I know they've changed their testing methodology, but a > 50% increase in response time is pretty drastic. So this would mean that the previous testing method hasn't been very accurate. Furthermore, I have seen a similar thing with a test of a MSI monitor I believe, that was tested in 2019 and then shown on a table again in 2020 with a different response time (still old testing method). I forgot about the exact monitor though.
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Hoping we see the new G7 & G5 as well, as the old G7 was my go-to buy for my next monitor, but the curved panel was always an issue, glad I didn't pull the trigger yet!
Fantastic monitor. Let's see if we can get more budget Mini Led Monitors soon. I also like the way Samsung handled response times over the refresh range. It's too expensive for me but I don't think it's bad value for what you're getting here, there really isn't anything like it.
Samsung give me these specs, VA panel etc in a flat 27-32" version in 1440p. Thank you. Sadly I hate UW format, curved monitors (especially the high curvature on samsung), and size is also too big for my taste. The specs are really nice though, and wish they would make a high end flat panel/monitor
my 21:9 mi after a year of owning it...has become a learning lesson. 400$ for it and i wouldnt jusify paying more for a 21:9 experience unless i were to quit multiplayer shooters. I found the experience quite ideal for mmo/arpgs any loot based hack n slash or shooter/ racing games like forzahorizon most single player games or sports games like fifa or 2k. The second i tried to play any copetitive fps like siege, valorant, cs:go, or moba....i had to use 16:9 and thats when i wished i had a better 16:9 montor so i got the lg 27GP83B...bc they dont even make good 240HZ 1080P monitors for cheaper than i got the LG for. The curve on the g7 is atrocious really makng the 32" the only option....yet the curve is so bad for content consumption smh and at upwards of both my monitors price combined. I mean if you have the budget for a VA 400$ range 21:9 its worth it for the fun you can get out of it for the genre that can maximize the 21:9 ratio. But for shooters the only multiplayer shooter i really enjoyed with it was BFV and Insurgency sandstorm...both of which are already better with the LG due to its response time/and lack of ghosting and overshoot esp in sRGB mode. It just sucks for content consumption as well bc if i watch content and try to game on the 16:9 lg even though the bezel from my LG and Mi 34" match perfectly.....the content on the UW is cropped bc of the format and its still pointless that the screens match perfectly....yet if im playing GTA on the 21:9 and watching a movie etc on the 16:9 its a perfect multi monitor line up...and the fact that my UW is curved helps with the angle of my 16:9 vs if my 34" wasnt curved. My LG 16:9 is 27" i guess i got lucky that theyre a perfect fit. I will be selling that UW to replace it with an LG 43'' C1 once they launch. as ive never owned 4k tv or smart tv as it is. And would like an ideal monitor for non fps/moba essentially pve/mmo. So i can play d2 from a comfortable position and on a large format/4k. Among other games like bf2042. While still having a solution for siege and cs:go and league/dota. FC5 or FC6 RDR2 Cyberpunk, on 21:9 is an experience that 16:9 cant beat.....unless its 4k NGL thats what i learned....thank god for DLSS and vulkan. and in defense of BFV hackers aside....its a game i can enjoy on a ps4/4k tv with controller that level of image quality and input latency.....to my 4k oled omen on low 90 fps in 4k. To my desktop on 21:9 or 16:9 fast response time. I could never equate that level of fun/experience to valorant/cs:go/overwatch. How acceptable the game is to play with various settings and hardware. Granted its very smooth and ideal with 1-4 ms response time on the LG and reflex enabled wih g-sync. VS ps4 or a 60hz laptop with sub g-sync framerates.The 4k on a 15" laptop beats 21:9 from an image quality/pixel density vs immersion aspect of immersion being more realestate, vs 4k having so many detials that you otherwise wouldnt notice. It does up the experience of gaming off 15". While the advantage of the 27" qhd with good responsetime and sRGB mode with a full system wont soften the blow of a hacker in a plane or tank. XD prob playing off their samsung curved monitor TBH. I wish samsung made a high quality flat panel monitor too bc i wish they made a tv that could compete with the LG c1 in 4k. No need for insane refreshrates with the level of gpu fps yields. My 400$ va is a samsung panel the same one in the 400$ gigabyte ultrawide. Yet samsung doesnt sell a 400$ ultrawide 34" monitor.....damn shame. Idk how i feel about spending 600$+ on a monitor still to this day. Like you i find myself scavenging through those flagships for a flat panel.......idk if you need 240hz bt LG does make a 180hz QHD ips nano...id recommmend that for 450$ on sale in sRGB mode unless you want to enable the overdrive to max. Or the MSI MAG274qrf the flat one is also on sale for 350$ unless you were plannig on spending around g7/aliwneware 240hz qhd prices. Bt the Samsung VA image quality for games and performance is quite jaw dropping if i was flush id probably get a 32" for the sake of not having any other option as far as 240hz lack of overshoot and image/color clarity it brings for gaming. If i were rich XD. bc then i could have a 80" oled tv on teh wall for my non gaming needs XD
Isn't this monitor just a gimmick? Who the fuck buys something like this. Watching content, reading text, working in 3D or 2D applications will suck on this monitor due to the curve. Why review "joke" monitors instead of what people might actually buy... drama/hype channel after all
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Hi @hardware unboxed did you know how i can fix my monitor when i buy it had some dead pixel but nothing that worried me but nowadays the dead pixels are much noticiable and in every side of the screen did you know how i can fixed it ( sorry for my bad english)
Anyone see the quality control issues they've been having with this monitor? At this price point, Samsung should have made sure they were leaving the factory with zero issues.
I use the current version for professional (3D animation and video editing) and recreational reasons (mostly FPS games). For me this setup works perfect, whilst the halo due to the insufficient diming zones seems negligible. At least this is not justifying spending an extra of 1.000€. Yes you have read this right in Germany you can get the current G9 model for about 1.300€ whilst the Neo G9 is listed at arround 2.300€ which is rediculous for such a small update.
@@Diwwah At this price point it has to fit my desires, so I do agree with him on both points. Concerning the Hz; I'm rarely going to reach 144+ fps and my brain/eyes isn't/aren't that sensitive to notice any improvements above 144Hz. So why pay for it? If they're ever going to release an identical model but with a smaller width, lower Hz and a lower price tag, I'm going to give them my hard-earned money.
This review although interesting not relevant for the vast majority of us consumers cause so few of us would even think of paying those prices for a monitor...Samsung G7 G70A, Gigabyte M28U, or Aorus F43U PLZ!! =)
@@CornFed_3Not salty at all to be honest. If you got the money good for you. You're going to have a great monitor for years to come. But for most of us avg consumers spending $3,000.00 AUD on a monitor is pretty ouch. For that money I could buy a new 55inch 4K OLED TV with 120hz screen refresh and have enough money to buy a 1440p High refresh rate monitor to play shooters on.
@@lazyreuvin, I prefer to have the best set up for each individual thing I do. TV is for TV and PC gaming is for PC gaming. Sure, it’s expensive but buying top notch stuff from the get go saves a lot in the long run. Plus, 120HZ isn’t anything special on a 4K TV for gaming. I have that set up for my Xbox Series X and it’s not ideal one bit.
18:40 Yes, never buy a product based on future updates. If you aren't satisfied as it is when you buy it, don't buy it. Such an important thing many still don't understand. Same with pre-order, never pre-order.
After using a 49" monitor for work and gaming for the past year, I would love to have this monitor. But not at that price, especially when you need something a really good GPU to get a reasonable framerate and detail setting for gaming. I love my 2070 but it's definitely the bottleneck in my setup.
Yeah bit of a niche monitor. 1440p low res and so wide all games have a fish bowl effect. The only review i've seen that makes sense is for racing games where you would want the width, although according to the sim community not many of those games support HDR so yeah not sure who would want this type of strange monitor that costs what it does.
Prices for true HDR PC monitors are absolutely absurd and completely out of touch compared to the TV market and the average wealth level of the majority of human beings. Until they get closer to $1000 USD or less, these are just great tech demos.
I have the original G9, chances are that in PBP for this monitor it will not run at such a refresh rate. I don't know about the HDR since it's a new implementation this gen, but at least the PBP for the one I have, the refresh rate is locked at 60hz no matter the PBP mode I set up.
your question has been asked ad nauseum in every reddit chat from here to the end of time, the info is readily available with all but the worst efforts, in pbp mode you dont get 240hz even in 2560
I was wondering if you could avoid the display stream compression and run max (higher) framerate by splitting the bandwidth across 2 HDMI 2.1 cables and enabling Nvidia surround to have the GPU think it's displaying the same game over multiple screens. Or is the Hz still locked at 120 on this model when picture by picture is enabled? Just wondering how to get my setup optimized while I wait on my pre-order. ;)
Just a heads up, I gave up a monitor this size to return to 16:9. If you try lots of games, you'll find a vast majority simply don't work in 32:9 or worse, they work but the UI is completely unusable. If you only play AAA games its probably fine, but if you do a bunch of niche / indie non-AAA games, you'll be fighting it every step of the way. I dropped back to a 32" Odyssey G7 and haven't regretted it at all, I can SEE everything without swiveling my head all day long :)
Not really possible. Flat VAs are a bad idea due to viewing angle weirdness with colors on the edge of the screen getting distorted in the worst case scenarios. So to make it flat, you'd have to switch to an IPS panel, and at that point you'd end up with completely different panel characteristics.
@@konga382 I'll take that over terrible IPS glow and backlight bleed. I could handle some curve but the G7 is way too curved for normal desktop usage to me for a 27-32 in monitor.
As said under previous reviews, oled still lacks a lot of durability compared to LCD so it's not a good investment. Those TVs will quickly worn after 3 to 5 years of use, getting gradually worse brightness and color accuracy than LCD of the same age, so they will be harder to sell in the used market.
@@PainterVierax Thats not true, YT channel called rtings did a long time burn in tests and in 9000 hours of usage their LG OLED hasnt changed brightness or color gamut where as their LCD TVs have. Also burn in highly depends what content you watch and its quite easy to avoid as long as you avoid static content and high brightness you ll be fine for many years to come.
@@ThunderingRoar but with constant unmoving features on the screen (start row and icons) that does increase the risk putting up a screensaver that is very bright after 30 minutes unused time would decrease the risk significantly
@@dominicbeltz9057 I have 6400 hours of varied content on my CX with zero burn-in. As long as you don't abuse the monitor with high brightness static images, it's fine (HUDs are not an issue unless you spend 6000 hours playing the same game).
@@PainterVierax You can keep swallowing the Samsung QLED marketing department's hate on OLEDs for the past 10 years, however once Samsung releases their own OLEDs in the next year or 2, I bet their marketing about burn-in will quickly change its tune.
Seems like if you want a big screen HDR experience, an OLED TV is still the way to go. I was really hoping to see if this were more promising with HDR, but aside from Zone count, there hasn't been much improvement over the standard G9 and in some ways it's a regression.
Is the refresh rate still fixed to 60 Hz when Picture By Picture mode is enabled? I find this to be a drawback of the CHG90, along with flickering using either HDR or FreeSync (with Samsung’s awful Ultimate Engine of the time).
This HDR implementation (particularly the Standard mode) is probably acceptable if not fine for someone playing mostly in darker environments, such as at night.
Fundemental issues...HDR quality? Umm...no? No one was complaining about HDR when the actual monitor was falling apart. The original was PULLED from sale in January 2020 due to lousy build quality where the frame de-glued from the screen and blinding light bleed occured. But hey it was great up until that point. XD
Why wasnt a ufo motion blur test image provided like other reviews of fast monitors for gaming comparison ? They did on other reviews. Ufo motion blur images are the best way to see which monitor produces the least motion blur for gaming.
Because it's near identical to the G9 in performance - showing results like the UFO motion blur when there is no conceivable difference in benchmark numbers wastes the viewers time, and production time of a video.
Personally after owning the last G9 Odyssey monitor I will stay away from this monitor. So many graphical issues with DisplayPort bandwidth and GSYNC enabled. Not to mention the cheap plastic they used that constantly pops once the monitor heats and cools down. The stand also gives out after a few months it’s just to heavy to hold the monitor up it just slides down to the bottom.
Price will come down over time. I have the oldest 1440p version since release (120hz), I've seen it on sale as low as 1k new. Great monitors for work/play. Had to use a TV rated wall mount arm, its heavy.
I own that model as well (CRG9). It is a great SDR monitor but HDR is pretty much unusable and compared to the latest models there is some VA black smearing - pixel response isn't crazy fast. That being said it also doesn't flicker as often as the G9 in VRR mode as the LFC threshold is set much lower at 60hz.
@@gencoserpen1260 have not noticed any flicker or smearing but maybe just not sensitive to it. But 100% the hdr blacks are too black for gaming. Got it setup, adjusted and it looked very pretty but didn't like it for gaming. Couldn't see shit in dark/night maps. Hopefully it lasts at least as long as my first 1440p display, which is now 7 years old and still looks as good as day 1. Don't see myself upgrading anytime soon.
@@dre4759 black smearing is only noticeable on high contrast edges. For example if you got a telephone pole with a clear blue sky background you will notice some smearing when you rotate the game camera. Otherwise the panel is pretty fast though. As for freesync flickering, it only occurs on games with wildly fluctuating frame rates where LFC (low frame rate compensation) is enabled and disabled multiple times within a very short span of time. On our monitor LFC is enabled when frame rate drops below 48fps and it is disabled when it goes above 60fps again. So you need to find a game that has fps swings below and above the 48-60fps range in order to notice it. If your games manage to stay above 48fps at all times you will never get any flicker at all.
Please no! My wallet can't take your review right now. I bought a Samsung Odyssey G9 when the re-released with the fixed firmware and a cheaper price, but the lackluster HDR and inverse ghosting can be annoying sometimes. I really really want to buy this new one (Edit: after watching the entire review, I'm glad you posted this, because even though the HDR performance is improved, the response time still needs to be better.)
Cockpit-based games can be great at this kind of ratio. That's a niche though, and really a hard buy against something like an HDR OLED VR headset like the Pimax 5K XR for enthusiasts, particularly at the price, where the screen would basically be for those who prefer comfort.
Than you probably have a very bad OLED or got a good deal. Is your OLED even HDR capable, has like brightness values that really enable HDR? Is it more than 60Hz?
As a monitor with a lot of static bars ? enjoy your burn in. and I am not saying that because I like this monitor, but seriously: oleds don't make good monitors. tv,media and occasional gaming ? yeah sure, but more and a none oled alternative is just better.
@@hideff4982 LG OLED TV = 1200 (and still not 240Hz) G9 Neo = 2400 So twice So he would have a 800 dollar TV which would be bad in one key area atleast.
I've got a question. So I buy monitors after your reviews. Recently I bought a Gigabyte M27Q which was a great monitor really, but it had pixel errors. Luckily I paid extra pixel error warranty and they replaced it in a week. It turned out the new one also had pixel errors. They told me that they don't want to order a new one, because for these monitors 2 out of 10 would be flawless, they sad it has AOC panel and they lack a proper quality control. I could get a full refund/upgrade to a more reliable one/keep it and refund the pixel error warranty. I upgraded to a Dell S21DGFA but I've returned it because it had a really distracting IPS glow in the bottom left corner. So my question is, is it possible to include in you reviews that what are the chances of a model to have pixel errors? I don't know if this information is easy to access or not. Sorry if it is a stupid question!
If Samsung just could come out with a 34" @ 3440x1440 ultrawide with the same glorious tech! I could stretch for a 38" 3840x1600 but then it's starting to become abit taxing on your GPU lol.
HDMI on the monitor limited to 144hz as the monitor badged for FreeSync which use Radeon cards that HDMI 2.1 limited to 40Gbps not like Nvidia Full Bandwidth HDMI 2.1 48Gbps that's apply to LG CX 40Gbps vs LG C9 48Gbps
Ordered the Neo G9 last week. Must have watched this and the updated video over 20 times trying to decide if I should pull the trigger. It is scheduled to arrive tomorrow. Fingers crossed I get a good panel!
