The english spelling of Gaeilge is not gaelic it's just 'Irish', the term you are looking for is the Anglicised version. Besides nobody uses the term Gaelic to refer to the language because there is more than one gaelic language. People try to sound intelligent when actually the correct way to say it is either 'Irish' or 'Gaeilge'. Nowhere in Ireland do they refer to it as Gaelic, that is something foreigners seem to do... I mean I don't know if your Irish or not but I do know that that is actually something that really irritates Irish people..
I mean Liam was doing it for years so it’s her turn now 😂😂 plus I swear there are a lot of Irish actors like michelle Fairely aka catelyn stark shes Irish so is little finger and Varys all Irish .
As an Irish person I am confused almost every time an Irish person tries to pronounce their own names. Miss Ronan is a perfect example. Her name is pronounced always as SEERSHUH.....never SERSHUH.
To be fair, went to Dublin last year overnight for work and sat across from him in the pub for lunch. My colleague went over and asked him for a picture and he told him to f**k off because he was eating his lunch. Though dissapointing, it was satisfying in a very stereotypical way....
Yeah, most hosts of shows like this are like that. They are conditioned to fear even one instant of dead air, so they yap like toddlers on meth. Plus, they are self obsessed attention whores by nature, and they want the spotlight and for everyone to think they are clever at all times. The best at avoiding those issues is probably Seth Meyers.
My grandfather who passed away on Saint Patrick’s Day in 2009 was 100 Percent Irish, I was only about 7 at the time so I really don’t remember if he had an accent or not !! He was an amazing man and I really wish I could have gotten to know him better and for longer than my first 7 years of life !!! Miss and love you pop corn !! So proud to be Irish !!!
@@markhenley3097 The standard Irish accent developed as part of a dialect continuum stretching from west country England to Dublin in the 15th/16th and 17th centuries. And it slowly spread from Dublin to the rest of the country. (Ireland is known for it's many regional accents, but experts on the English of Ireland say that the regional accents are dying off and being replaced by the standard 'RTÉ' accent originating in Dublin, which is the way people with status tend to speak. This is especially noticeable in younger women, even as far south as Kerry very few women under 35 will have a regional accent, and as all experts in linguistics know, women are generally the forebearers of language change across cultures as they always adopt the higher status way of speaking and carry new trends). And I'm not surprised that people in the south of England have a similar tone, because the south Dublin accent developed from people trying to sound more English years ago. Add in to the mix the effect American mass media has had on the speech of young people everywhere and it's not surprising at all that there are similarities!
@uildanach2010 you re just completely besides the point saying "The names don't sound the way the are written in English": it's just that in both those languages there are letter combinations that make a sound different than how it is written. nothing to do with it being a name or with latin origins (especially because english is a mix of latin and germanic and on top of it latin actually works like english anyways, with no letter combinations).
@Salwa Iqtait we used to have our own language known as Irish but we got colonised by the English a long time ago and we lost our language and now we all speak English but we all are still taught it in schools. I know a fair bit of Irish.
@@carlosandleon to some spelling is more important then phonetics. I'd rather someone screw up saying my name then spell it wrong but that's also because you should be able to spell to my name give or take a letter based off of how its pronounced.
@@KayColeLynn You don't Talk to people by spelling. Phoenetics can cross cultures and languages. Spelling not so much. You can't spell your name as ypu want in Japan
There are dozens and dozens of Irish accents. Every county has it's own accent, and some have more than one depending on where you're from in that county. Hence why all the comments saying "she's pronouncing this wrong" are wrong. The way you say it, will depend on where you are from in Ireland. Slight differences, but you can hear them all the same.
+RavensSarora True, like in Cork City you can almost tell what street somebody is from, by the way they lilt and sing at ya :P For the record though, Saoirse's accent is all over the gaf. As a Gaeilgeoir nothing makes me cringe more than hearing a fake Dublin accent wrap itself around the finer points of a triple vowel sound. "Sertia", ffs lol.
+SallyTheSeahorse 99.8% of Americans can't speak Gailge and the vast majority of major languages are pronounced phonetically. It's only natural for non-Irish to call him Sillian.
She is the sweetest, loveliest, most Irish little thing on Earth! I love how she never tires of having to do this sort of bit every time she's on a show!❤❤❤❤
+SallyTheSeahorse Irish immigrants were heavily looked down upon when they first started coming to America in large numbers. Racists and anti-immigration types (but I repeat myself) claimed the Irish weren't actually white somehow, and some segregated places forbade Irish people from using the "Whites" facilities.
SallyTheSeahorse Kate Hu As kewlpc already explained, back in the 1800s, Irish immigrants (who were the largest in number arriving in the US pre-Civil War) faced huge discrimination for being poor and Catholic. In many parts of the US back then, people were grouped into four main "races": white, black, Native American, and Irish. This kind of discrimination actually lasted well into the 20th Century and didn't really go away until the Cold War. Remember when JFK was elected president and how so many people feared having an Irish Catholic president for the first time?
in our oldest province, ulster, it is often called Creevagh. just like the irish lingo word for hill (kinnock) is often called Crock in irish!! yeah, crock!! and ulster should know ... it is a ncienet, after all.
Britt Volkonskaya that’s rather ignorant of you it’s not her choice my name gets brought up every day of my life because people butcher it I’m not going to keep my mouth shut about correcting people on my name
Britt Volkonskaya them not knowing is the definition of ignorance because they are capable of learning and knowing. I am American my language is English I know of those speakers you talk about but there’s still no excuse when someone corrects you on how to pronounce their name three times for them to mispronounce it again because they feel like it’s close enough. I’m done talking you can have your opinion all you like and excuse people for it all you want.
Obsessive mind aka The Sad Rapper no they don't,she sounds like an American/British actor trying to do an Irish accent, 'ah jaysus, sure little auld me from oireland with me potatoes and me shillelagh, I'm in a little filum begorrah' she's ridiculously fake
I think her accent is not from where she's from (since she traveled so much during her formative years). It's actually her parents' accents. Her parents are her anchor, her roots, her identity and her guide. She never lost it because it probably makes her feel grounded, plus, everybody loves it so she jokingly says that it's too late to change it now. I don't get why some Irish people call her out on her "fake Dublin" accent. How can she fake something like that? She's had it since she was a child. Is she supposed to have a Carlow accent? She grew up everywhere. The only stable accent she's heard were her folks'.
the problem with the names is not how they sound, it's that they are written differently from the way it is pronounced, which is clearly their sadistic way of torturing us... =P
Literally for months upon months I have been calling a friend of mine who's name is Caoimhe, "kay-mee" and she neeeeever corrected me until I came to her house and her mother called her "quee-vuh". I honestly didn't know how to act, at first I thought she was calling upon someone else but well....apparently not. 😂 (I still call her Kay-mee today)
+toyotaprius79 The Brian one is just unfair. As an Irish person living abroad I'm so glad I dodged a bullet. Meanwhile the poor Eoghains haven't a hope
Irish pronunciation does make sense according to Irish orthography. Most people in North America already know how to pronounce the name Seán ("shawn") - in Irish, the letter S is pronounced "sh" when it's next to an I or E, but as "s" everywhere else. So the "sh" sound in Siobhan shouldn't surprise people too much.. and when you see the name Saoirse, it begins to make sense that the first S is sounded like a "sh" while the second is "s". (I'm not going to get into vowel combinations like aoi, though, because it may make your brain hurt.) And the name Saoirse is beautiful - it means "freedom" in Irish Gaelic.
@@elgranlugus7267 Might be easier to just say "h" isn't a letter in Irish, it's just a modifier to the previous letter, so whenever you see an "h" in Irish, you should expect it and the previous letter to make a different sound than it would in English. For those curious, "h" takes the place of an accent marker (a dot above the letter) on previous letter that was standard in Old Irish. I don't know this for sure, but my guess is they made that change to make things easier with the introduction of the printing press (since they had plenty of "h"s lying around, but consonants with dots probably would have to have been specially made) So a name like Siobhan using the old orthography would be Sıoḃan. (I hope RU-vid uses a font that renders that correctly…)
@@PucaCiuin It all comes to dialects, if you say Siobhan like "Sho-van" it's correct, same as "Shoe-wan". However, in other sentences, names or words, slender "bh" is like a "v", and broad bh is "w". The word bhaile, needs to be pronounced as "wah-leh" yes or yes. Broad MH - "w" Slender MH - "v"
cha mekke 'aoi' is pronounced *ee* in Irish. For example the word 'naoi' (nine) is pronounced *nee*. Any Irish person could look at any Irish name even if they've never seen it before and would still be able to pronounce it. Names like caoimhe oisin siobhan saoirse and roisin are very common in ireland
Irish kindergarten school be like Teacher - A for? students - apple teacher - spell apple students - chmioarzxt teacher - how is it pronounce? students - Apple.
@Anarchist Well, in Germany we do have kindergarten, but we don't learn how to spell there, the kids only play and learn social skills and at a maximum learn how to draw within lines and how to use scissors properly. Letters and learning how to spell is reserved for primary school. @Ben Ski it's the place young kids are usually send to before they start going to school. But what you do there varies (maybe from country to country?).
+jimbobeire Both "bh" and "mh" are pronounced like both V and W depending on a few things. mostly the broadness/narrowness* of the vowel/consonant. GENERALLY, if the nearest vowel is broad then both "mh" and "bh" are pronounced like an English "w". If the vowel is narrow, then it's time for a good auld "v" sound. In "Domhnal", the vowel is broad, so it's "Dow-nal", "Doe-nal", or similar. In "Caoimhe", the vowel is narrow, so it's like "Kwee-Veh" or "Kee-Vah" depending on your accent, what part of Ireland you're in, and a little bit of personal preference. (ao is ee for REASONS, the "i" in the middle there is to warn you that the "mh" is narrow and so is silent, and I say "it's like" because this name is said in variety of ways depending on who's talking, some people would say it ends with an "ah" sound some with an "eh" sound. ) However! Niamh has the "mh" at the end so it's a "v" sound ... so Niamh is like "Neev", even though the closest vowel is broad... *the board vowels are the one that make your mouth round, the narrow make your mouth narrow... i, í, e, é are narrow; a, á, o, ó, u, ú are board. The couplets ("ae", "ea", "ao" "ui" "iu" and so on) are tricky, and sometimes have a subtly that's lost on people... like some nationalities trying to get their L and R sounds right. Why not just use "w" or "v"?! Those letters aren't in the Irish Alphabet, and within the Irish Language there are many reason to distinguish between "mh" and "bh" as the 'h's come and go in many words depending on case, tense and so on...
Here's a simple phrase to practice: whale oil beef hooked. Not an Irish phrase at all at all, but say it a few times then emphasize oil. See how it sounds then.
I had an Irish classmate once. I asked for his name and was confused because I thought it was strange that a boy would be named after a dance involving tutus. Then he spelled it and it was "Billy", not "Ballet".
I suspect he was from Belfast in Northern Ireland… that part still connected to the U.K. In the Irish Republic, Liam (LEE-um) would be the equivalent of William and Billy is the diminutive. Being an Ulsterman and living here all my life, I have heard quite a few names and understand what you are saying about “Ballet”. For the others reading this who don’t understand… Ballet (bah-LAY) is the dance. Billy (BAL-ay) is the Belfast pronunciation. We have some rare words and phrases. Quare geg. Kwer gay-g = very funny Quare craic Kwer krak = very enjoyable Boutye? Bough-t-yee (Bough as in tree branch) = How are you? Grand = fine or good as in I feel fine, I am good. And we tend to talk too quickly for people to understand us.
Oh really? You know there's a lot of variety in Irish accents? In that case, I challenge you to listen to MissElayneous, an Irish 'rapper' from Finglas, an area of inner city Dublin :)
Mon Lemon...Although you are correct in saying Irish accent, it is a very broad term. There are many Irish accents, at least one for every county. The accent she´s using is a Dublin accent. In Dublin there are several accents and they tend to be strongly linked to social class and education. Her accent could be described as low-class Dublin.
As someone trying to learn Gaelge (Irish), I find his reactions to the names relatable. Almost every word in Irish Gaelic doesn't sound like what a monolingual English speaker would expect, or ANYBODY who isn't familiar with Gaelic for that matter! But if you take away that writing system and only focus on the sounds of the language, it sounds so melodic in a "welcome home" kind of way.
For all you wondering: Eoin is pronounced the same as Owen, Cian is pronounced the same as Keane, Micheál is pronounced Mee*hawl*, Pádraig is pronounced *Paw*drig, Tomás is pronounced Tuh*mawss*, Darragh and Daragh are pronounced the same as Dara, Róisín is pronounced Roe-sheen, Aisling is pronounced the same as Ashling, Sinéad is pronounced Shin*aid*, Cathal is pronounced Caw*hil*, Fionn is pronounced Fyunn, Áine is pronounced *Aw*nyah (the N's pronounced like ñ is Spanish), Gráinne rhymes with Áine, Orlaith is pronounced the same as Orla, Eimear is proceed Eemuhr, Clodagh is pronounced Cloe-dah, Máire is pronounced *Moy*rah, Diarmuid is pronounced Deer-mid, Méabh is pronounced the same as Maeve, Ailbhe is pronounced Al-vah, Sorcha is pronounced Sore-sha, Sadhbh is pronounced Sive, Eabha is pronounced the same as Eva, Laoise is pronounced Lee-sha
@Ray Kah Because, "v" though it comes from Proto Indo European, most of cultures, would use an alternative consonant. Germanic languages use the "V" , however, it seems that, in proto-germanic, commonly the use a "W" sound.
Éabha is Ava in some cases too, though, since a fada on an E gives it an “ay” sound. Máire can be pronounced “maw-ruh” either, as a fada on the A gives it an “aww” sound.
Caoimhe must be one that is pronounced slightly differently depending on the region because I know 3 girls named Caoimhe, and they all pronounce it like KEE-va. Not that that makes any more sense than Quiva...
imagine being sarcastic and saying "i got the skin tone to go with it" but when you go to mexico you legit see that skin tone and hair colour along with the eye colour
@@verm7148 You completely picked that up incorrectly. In Ireland because we are so pale and most of us like tanned skin she was being self deprecating about her pale skin and nothing racist to Mexians. It was more her way of saying she would like to have tanned skin tone like Mexicans than anything against them. Everything needs to be framed within the particular cultural reference. And to us that was her taking the piss out of being so pale
I love how Americans always say they are Irish. They might be 50% German, 30% English, 10% Chinese, 5% Native American, 3% African but that all gets ignored when Great Great Great Great Great Grandfather Sean was a Dublin man!!! haha
@@aonghaspringle7822 I don't run into too many people who claim Scottish only. It's almost always Scots-Irish, it seems, and at least where I'm from, that's probably more accurate than not. A LOT of Scots (and Irish, to a lesser extent) ended up settling in Appalachia back in the day, to the point where in some of the more remote hollers, you still have words in common usage that come directly out of Scots vocabulary. I watched a documentary once about the dialect here, and there were a surprising number of people commenting that the people in the documentary sounded an awful lot like old timers in their countries. One person in particular was like, "Why does this guy sound exactly like my grandpa, who's never left Ireland in his life?" lol Personally, I don't hear it. Appalachian accents to me sound NOTHING like Irish or Scottish accents. But it seems others think otherwise, so who knows. But that's what you get in what's still a very young country full of immigrants: a whole lot of people trying to find their identity through their ancestry. I think that's pretty cool, actually, and if it leads to people developing an interest in other countries and cultures, more power to 'em.
I have lived in the republic of Ireland for 10 years,in Dundalk,Dublin and Naas(County Kildare). Have made the nicest & sweetest friends and in touch even after 18 years. Those 10 years were THE BEST! The Irish are the friendliest people I have ever met & to the honest I too had a wee bit of an Irish accent but now it's unfortunately all gone. Ireland is so beautiful and green esp the countryside 🤗! It's a MUST visit place if you haven't seen it. You'll meet friends for life like I have done..🇨🇮💚
Looks like HANNA went and grew up on us. What a pretty lady. I was born in the US, but my dad's side of the family is one of those cliche Irish families. I have something like 30 cousins on my dad's side....so many I don't even know how many there are, let alone all their names. They all live in Michigan, are Catholic, and definitely Irish. My name is Sean. I've never really felt a connection to my heritage...but I wish I did. It's amusing to me how Colbert, Conan, and Jack White..._all three_ come from giant rust-belt Irish Catholic families. Though, not all the cliches are true; I'm not big on alcohol...while I adore marijuana. Then again, which one of those is *_green?_* ; )
I think because of the universal story, an engaging and nuanced screenplay, the inventive use of color, cinematography and set design, and the high watermark of one of the best, if not the best, young actresses working today, Brooklyn is a future classic.
The cinematography was very nice. I remember it looked kind of like a moving painting in some scenes (especially in Ireland or when they went to the beach at Coney Island). The story is universal in some ways but it's also very specific in ways that might not be as transferable to today. It's more about the white ethnic American immigrant experience of previous generations then the more modern multiracial immigrant experience of today. European immigrants, especially if they already spoke English, were obviously more able to "assimilate" (i.e. become white) and more quickly and easily become and be considered "American", especially by the time of the post-World War II era that the film was set in.
Yes, it is a look back to the Ellis Island as opposed to the border or refugee experience today. Chaplin was obviously a big influence in the earliest scenes. John Crowley had obviously spent some time watching _The Immigrant_ before filming.
Wren Wisp-Wings You do have an Irish accent just probably not a very broad, strong one. But other nationalites would be able to tell your Irish, it's the way we speak
*americans love the irish* Also the Americans when they see somone Irish: OMG my cousins brothers dogs cats owner mothers sisters cats kitten is like 0.00001 % Irish so yeah we’re like related
@@MM-gp9mb Nearly every American I’ve met (a lot, I worked part time in a travel agency) said they were basically Irish, I would say “oh really that’s great, may I ask how?” And their response?? “Oh my great great grandma, her father’s second cousin three times removed married my great great grandma’s and blah blah blah” like literally if they took a DNA test it probably wouldn’t even mark Ireland because the percentage of Irish in them would be so small 🙄😑