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@@theyouth2000 I recall that only Eru can create things from scratch and that evil beings can only corrupt that which already exists. Therefore, in order for Sauron to exist in the physical world, his spirit form (i.e. his true self) has to possess and corrupt existing matter; accordingly, after his body is damaged beyond repair due to being stabbed countless times by Orcs, he has to rebuild it from scratch, and he can do this only by absorbing and corrupting already-existent living matter (e.g. a rat, a centipede, a human, etc).
@theyouth2000, in my opinion it's ok. There are 2 ways for a "killed" Maia to get a physical body again: 1.) He gets help by highest god Eru Iluvatar or his Valar like Gandalf had. Not possible in Saurons case as he did f*ck up lots of things. 2.) He uses a bit of his remaining physical life force to transform into a parasite who regains power to absorb life force of his victims.
@@theyouth2000 Although The Hobbit movies were criticized, they at least got Sauron somewhat right. Tolkien wrote Sauron's spirit as a black wind after his body was destroyed in Numenor, just like he was portrayed in The Hobbit movies instead of a black goo.
@@cashewnuttel9054 Why should he be? He is a shapeshifter. He can transmutate to anything he wants. Why should he be ugly, if hottness will open you gates?
@@connorlehnert2994 I know, lol. even a spirit-like wraith or a black cloud would work, and the books actually describe that, but no, they copy other movies because they want to be better even though they are failing.
@@rosesweetcharlotte if sending an army of hundred of thousand orcs leaded by horrible spectras on your face, killing people, destroying cities, terrifying everyone, if all this is not the proof of a great villain, I dont know what is villain.
@@kodesh1674When saurons physical form is destroyed he becomes especially a wandering Spirit, until he has regained his strength to create a new/remake form. The only thimg that stopped sauron in LotR from making a physical form was that he put too much power into the one ring.
@@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935Sauron did have a body in the books. And how would you represent a disembodied spirit just gliding around middle earth for centuries, I think this is a completely valid and really interesting way of showing Sauron regaining his body.
I recall that only Eru can create things from scratch and that evil beings can only corrupt that which already exists. Therefore, in order for Sauron to exist in the physical world, his spirit form (i.e. his true self) has to possess and corrupt existing matter; accordingly, after his body is damaged beyond repair due to being stabbed countless times by Orcs, he has to rebuild it from scratch, and he can do this only by absorbing and corrupting already-existent living matter (e.g. a rat, a centipede, a human, etc).
@@DVFHAFYT stop being a crybaby, that is just a more easier form they choose to show visually how his corrupted reborn works before he puts almost all of his power in the One Ring
They seem to have adopted this bit from Gandalf's description of Durin's Bane after it gets doused in the lake beneath the chasm of Khazah dum ("a thing of slime").
"'Yet it has a bottom, beyond light and knowledge,’ said Gandalf. ‘Thither I came at last, to the uttermost foundations of stone. He was with me still. His fire was quenched, but now he was a thing of slime, stronger than a strangling snake.'" - Lord of the Rings - book 3 - chapter 5: The White Rider
Ask the alligator. His blood helped. Then on a diet of the blood of snakes, toads, and all the putrid life of the Mississippi, slowly, Lestat became something like himself again.
When the ring of power was destroyed by Frodo, Gandalf talks about Sauron still existing. But a weak entity unable to harm anyone. This is the form he takes after the ring is destroyed, apart from he is unable to regenerate and will forever remain as this until the ending of time.
Are you sure Sauron is able to take a corporeal form after the One Ring's destruction? According to Tolkien Gateway: "According to Gandalf, Sauron was "maimed for ever, becoming a mere spirit of malice that gnaws itself in the shadows, but cannot again grow or take shape." Sauron's corporeal body that was in the Dark Tower died, and without the Ring his spirit no longer had the power to create a new one. Though his indestructible mind and being were bound forever to Eä, Sauron had lost all power to effect his will upon the world and could never again grow in strength. It is said of Sauron, in summary of his long career of wickedness in Arda, that "he rose like a shadow of Morgoth and a ghost of his malice, and walked behind him on the same ruinous path down into the Void."" Just like Saruman: "Saruman, who was a Maia, had lost his shape with his "death". As a discorporate spirit, he turned westward, but a wind came from the West and pushed him away. Apparently his spirit was left naked, powerless, and wandering in Middle-earth, not unlike Sauron after the One Ring was destroyed."
I mean, in terms of how to show an evil deity who doesn't obey the rules of nature, I'd say this was a pretty good interpretation of how exactly Sauron survives each time his physical form is taken, and it's essentially a really good visual representation of what he is - a writhing, black mass of a parasite that slithers in the dark. For all his grandiosity, he can be reduced to nothing should he be taken by surprise. And for those who say the orcs killing him is in some way unfaithful to the source of Tolkien's writing, let me remind you the entire plan of Aragorn and the fellowship to help Frodo and Sam get to mount Doom in the Return of the King is to use Sauron's own arrogance against him. The show may be poorly directed, which is it's biggest flaw really, but once in a while they do show some certain depictions that are accurate to Tolkien and that we also haven't seen before.
One of the chief things about Sauron and Morgoth was that they could never create and only corrupt. Other than the stupidly of Sauron getting ganged on. I think this scene represents how Sauron always need corrupt something else in order to use it.
To put in context Sauron is a Maiar, a spirit like an Angel Like Gandalf death isn’t the end for him. As they’re really spirits in physical forms But unlike Gandalf, Sauron is a fallen Maiar that wouldn’t have the support of the Valar to regain physical form So he saw to it to remain in what’s left of his body, and assimilate other beings to regrow his body until he can fully take a new form becoming Halbrand It seems Sauron allowed himself to die, so that those that oppose him like Adar would reveal themselves and manage the Orcs for him While Sauron in his new form, would fool the Free People’s of Middle Earth as an ally, as Halbrand, the lost King of the Southlands, to ultimately get close to the Elves and forge the Rings of Power for his final gambit He planned this far ahead, and allowed himself to appear beaten and weak, so he can fool everyone and possibly triumph in the end, As In the end, he’ll retake Mordor as the uncontested Dark Lord and be the Lord of the Rings
Ah yes, the great deceiver. Deceiving those who already saw him as Halbrand by putting on a blonde wig and nothing more, same body, same face, same voice. The elves are the dumbest creatures on middle earth according to this absolute garbage show.
He never lost them, he held back to pretend he’s weak, true he needed time after reforming his body. But he held back to look for an opportunity to enact his plan. It seemed he allowed himself to die, to allow any holdouts that oppose him to take power and manage the Orcs for him, while he became Halbrand and try to trick the others to make the Rings of Power for him, then take down Adar and others traitors when the time is right and become the uncontested Dark Lord The truth is the most dangerous part of Sauron isn’t his magic, but his cunning He allowed himself to appear as a weak human. To be imprisoned and beaten, all for himself to come on top when he’s ready
I love scenes like this when these transcendent godlike being reform themselves from basically nothing. It demonstrates that their power is beyond understanding.
Soooo Sauron was unable to convince a bunch of orcs to join him .. and then he gets stabby stabbed , then somehow gives everyone frost damage then turns into venom goo.. sounds legit
'Yet it has a bottom, beyond light and knowledge, said Gandalf. 'Thither I came at last, to the uttermost foundations of stone. He was with me still. His fire was quenched, but now he was a thing of slime, stronger than a strangling snake.'" - Lord of the Rings - book 3 - chapter 5: The White Rider
Look, I get not everyone knows how stalagmites and stalactites work, so I’ll just tell you that they take millennia to grow as big as what was shown between Sauron’s slaying and the rat. Oh wait this clips completely removes the shot of the stalagmites so that’s why it’s not clear.
I find it somewhat funny that he's just a pile of worms flopping around trying to find a new body And the way he slides down the slope aswell 😭 I can just imagine a little "Weee" as he's going down
For people complaining about this...here's what Tolkien wrote about Gandalf defeating the Balrog in Moria: "'Yet it has a bottom, beyond light and knowledge,’ said Gandalf. ‘Thither I came at last, to the uttermost foundations of stone. He was with me still. His fire was quenched, but now he was a thing of slime, stronger than a strangling snake.'" - Lord of the Rings - book 3 - chapter 5: The White Rider
@@ZiggyStardust49 I dont care. Balrog was described as this but NOT Sauron. If I follow your argument, Sauron was also at a moment a Wolf. So should the Balrog be a Wolf one day ? This is just stupid
I was so confused but in case anyone else is too so when they faded out from his blood puddle and faded back in with the rat it was 1000 years later. And then from the rat to the centipede to eventually him outside and the woman is another few hundred. Adar is an elf so he’s immortal and that’s why he’s still leader all these years later. I was so fkn confused before I read that on Reddit.
Is it me or theres something extremely refreshing and satistying about seeing Sauron resurrecting as hallbrand? It s like he s happy about surviving. Then the weight of his failure and adar s trickery brings him down with it. Its like he realizes he has nothing left to live for. His life is empty and then he ll meet galadriel lol
This scene was low key insulting to Sauron.. I mean why was he pleading with the orcs.. It's not like the orcs get to have a vote on how they are used.. 😂😂😂
I think it makes sense. He really was sort of riding Morgoth's coattails and without him there, no one is really sure what they're doing. Sauron clearly is trying to be scary and as we see, it does work. But Adar is just done.
@@rosesweetcharlotte women..... I see you in all the comments spamming people. What are you Doing...... Flat earthers arguments can make sense too. You Dont have to literally Defend something so much. Have you even read the "Silmarillion" more then once? Nothing wrong with having an opinion but you keep sharing Your opinion Over and over..... instead of engaging in healthy Discussions you keep Defending against multiple people.
@@DestroToCreate So what? It's her right and you harass her for that trying to shut her up. Her comment in this thread is actually logical and was offered by other people here too. Finally, it's womAn in singular (unless you tried to somehow make it about women in general which is just pathetic). What you're doing here is also NOT ''engaging in healthy discussion''. Get off your high horse.
Well that is certainly one explanation for how Sauron regenerates his physical body. It's not the greatest, like at all, but it's definitely different and does kinda work.
Witch king: so... This was you? Sauron: Look at me... I was beautiful... Witch King: ok so what's the plan for Osgili- Sauron: shh shh, I'm trying to watch😢😢😢
Ο sauron είναι ίδιος με τον empiror belos που ήταν γλίτσα από την σειρά the owl house, Ο sauron έτρωγε ζώντα πλάσμα την σάρκα τους που ήταν μαύρη γλίτσα venom όπως ο emperor belos έτρωγε σάρκα από ζώα , Στο μεταξύ ο sauron κατάφερε να βγήκε από το βουνό αλλά έκανε πολύ κρύο που εξαπέλυσε το χιόνι και δεν μπορούσε να συνεχίσει άλλο η μοίρα του ήταν προφανές στο δρόμο βρέθηκε μία αμάξα πιδειξαι επάνω και έφαγε μια αθώα γυναίκα, Με την ανθρώπινη μορφή που πείρε έγινε ο haibrand.
What's most apalling is now that theyve introduced his bodiless Form I wonder how theyre doing when Numenor is destroyed. Will he still be this black goo, floating in the ocean for weeks or months? Very strange... Why not stick to the books and showing him as a dark cloud - a nameless spirit.
