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Scale Model Tips - 36 Spray Can Primers Tested - Tamiya - Mr. Surfacer - Citadel - Rust-Oleum & More

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Here I test 36 different spray can primers for scale modeling. Included in this test are non scale model brands like Dupli-Color, Krylon and Rust-Oleum.
I test them on several different surfaces to compare their performance.
There's a few here that I feel are the top choice and a surprise or two.
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@Shin_Lona 3 года назад

Probably the most extensive comparison ever done in the history of modeling. 😆

@guepar58 3 года назад

Yes best tests ever, has to be done!

@AJisdabombsauce 2 года назад

We don’t deserve Barbatos Rex!!! D’:

@JSledge825 2 года назад

This guy is great! He’s how I figured out about Dspiae products. And I love those now.

@scottlinder9882 3 года назад

I am always impressed with how much work that you put into these videos. Thank you again for your hard work.

@lancelehman1105 3 года назад

It's like an encyclopedia on primers! You explain everything you talk about and show it too. The hard work turned out a winner! Thank you for a good job!

@barbatosrex9473 3 года назад

Thanks for the kind words friend. Thanks for watching. I do try my best. Many more test to come for sure 👍

@orrhockey13 3 года назад

I'm a younger modeler and been watching you since you had like 1k subs. Just wanted to say thanks for everything you do it's super helpful and informative for someone like myself!

@barbatosrex9473 3 года назад

Thanks so much buddy.

@ncpa1152 2 года назад

I’m new to model building and I bought Mr. Surfacer 1000 because it was all they had at the store at the time, glad to see I made a pretty good purchase

@Scotty923 3 года назад

Thanks for putting in the time to bring this. The vallejo stood out for me

@stephenwhite5444 Год назад

Awesome test! If you ever do another one or if you still have these test pieces....a durability and adhesion test would be awesome! Testing the adhesion of primer to surface as well as the top coat to the primer (which you'd have to use the same top coat for them all). Scratch test where they use something like a sharp screw in a block and drag it over the primers to compare which scratch easier, using a real string tape and seeing if it pulls the primer off, ect. I'm going to get a couple of those that you liked....it really helped me narrow down! Thanks!

@epreinte2429 11 месяцев назад

Man, that's some hard work you did. Multiple brands, multiple sufaces, precise, detailed. Was looking for a comparison between primers brand, you did it. Nothing more to say than good job. Thanks !

@barbatosrex9473 11 месяцев назад

You're welcome buddy

@PH-md8xp 2 года назад

Wow! Excellent comprehensive video. The hobby community owes a great debt of gratitude to you for testing all of these different products on a variety of materials and surfaces. 🙏🏻

@michaelandrew4488 Год назад

Thanks for dong this Barbatos Rex - Mr Surfacer is easy to get here , and is certainly my go to now. Tamiya is a close second.

@oldmanmaye8490 Год назад

I'm sort of new to the hobby. Been an artist my whole life but I stick to 3d prints these days. Resin & plastics.... I'm a hand painter and that was my reputation. Watching your videos I am now fluent with my airbrush and the education of do's & don'ts. I am having fun and holy shit sticks like half the time now it takes me for anything. I would cheesy like , want to simply say thank you! If it wasn't for your approach & the way you "hands on" show how to do it all ........ I may have very well quit and just hand painted everything. Videos like this, where we all know you have to be losing $$ doing is seriously appreciated. Thanks!

@johnfreeman1408 2 года назад

out here on the west coast I use a primer that I buy at my local hardware store called Touch Tone. It comes in light and dark gray, black and red. I spray all my paints over it and never have had a problem.

@barbatosrex9473 2 года назад

Wow we don't have that here on the east coast. Plus you get red and black which is a bonus 👍

@unclesweetiesmodelworks Год назад

Man, you obviously ut a lot of time, effort and money into these tests. Thank you so much for them, they are great helps to my painting skills!

@tokyochannel2020 2 года назад

Mr Surfacer 500 and 1000 are my absolute favorite primers, I use it for every single model I do. they are just great.

@barbatosrex9473 2 года назад

They're the best 👍

@bobrivett7645 8 месяцев назад

Wow just watched this 2 year old primer test you did. Loved it. Thank for all the work you put it to it. Very valuable testing. I use primer on many of my models.

@MotorGuyzer Год назад

Wow. That is an insane amount of work you put into that test. Thank you!

@DM-uk3dp Год назад

The dedication you have to your craft is impressive. Thanks for all you do. Very informative. You deserve a million subscribers.

@mynock5012 3 года назад

You're a legend man! Thank you for spending the time and money to do this. Very informative!

@johnm.gerard1718 Год назад

Rudy Tooty Version compressor with Patriot 105-1 airbrush is only around $170-$219 if it is in stock. A pretty good deal. SpayGunner has the Patriot 105 single nozzle airbrush for $79. They are currently,as of Dec. 2022, out of stock on the Patriot 105 kit with the 2 extra needles. Going for &98. I decided to get the Badger 2020 Sotar with the added .5 and .7 needles for $125.00. I bought one of the single action airbrushes you tested for doing primer coats and the like. I just wanted a second little better airbrush. I bought a different compressor on Amazon that came with an dual action airbrush but I don't know the quality.

@ianlakin6715 3 года назад

I concur with all the comments below thank you for your hard work and time. Your channel has saved me so much time and money on all aspects on modelling. your a star👏👏👏

@cawsking555 2 года назад

my favorite combo is Rust-Oleum 2-N-1 Fill and Sand Primer then prim over with Krylon automotive 2 in 1 primer for mixed material's like resin and plastic . strangely enough it does help with weak points on some thin model attachments

@ptcarino 3 года назад

Loved the tamiya fine primer! I used to use a spray can primer for cars and it tends to become too thick (fills imperfections well but i don't need to all the time). After using tamiya fine primer my end results became much better. Granted i can't fill imperfections anymore. Will just have to get a different solution for that now since i don't need it all the time.

@ecl4396 2 года назад

Tamiya sells small bottles of liquid primer specifically for fixing things, fyi

@WorldPowerLabs Год назад

Excellent video. I find that so long as a plastic surface is free of cosmetic defects, the best primer is none at all. Just a spray of adhesion promotor, and then topcoats. I've had great luck with Duplicolor adhesion promoter in the aerosol can. Bulldog (harder to find unless you go to an auto body supplier) works great, too, but ONLY if you spray with your own spray equipment. Their aerosol cans are no good, spitting and sputtering globs of the stuff. Overall, for a higher-build primer, I like Rust-Oleum grey. Never noticed any significant difference between the "automotive" one and the regular. It's always advisable to stick with the same brand of paint products for all coats, but I've never had a problem going over it with Krylon or Duplicolor top coats.

@nikolicrastko9281 3 года назад

this is the best primer guide on the internet, it is very detailed, i went for the mr hobby ones, and this video helped me understand primers better thanks so much man!!!!

@stephicohu 3 года назад

Thanks for your time on this test!

@richhoule3462 3 года назад

Looking forward to watching this tonight!

@jackhalsey242 Год назад

This is an amazing video. Incredible work. Thank you so much.

@barbatosrex9473 Год назад

Thanks Jack, a lot of work went into it

@marcopc220 2 года назад

Wow respect for taking so much time to review all this primer 😄👍🏼. The Vallejo Hobby Paint did really surprise me, i will try it

@paulbennett4548 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for this timely introduction to your YT channel. Good old Mr Google bought your video up on my search. I had been looking for a substitute primer as my last 80g aerosol of Tamiya was just about done. While out and about trying to find a replacement I happened upon the Rust-oleum 2X Primer white 340g for much less than a replacement Tamiya can. This Bob Ross happy accident happened a couple of weeks ago and I've been procrastinating about trying the new primer. No more thanks to your timely appearance via Tube-of-You. Now I will go and explore some more of your fine tales. Best regards from Canada.

@magusreaver 3 года назад

I was sold Lead Belcher as a primer.. it is a basecoat to go over primers. That is the reason it is so smooth.

@modelrestorations Год назад

Excellent review! Thank you so much.

@esbenrasmussen4289 2 года назад

Something I just recently learned is that there are many meanings when people talk about primers, but they are rarely mentioned: 1. Color uniformity or background color: If the surface is different colors or if fx a black surface needs to be white, you might use a lighter primer. 2. Adhesion layer: Metal etching primer is one example, or when people talk about "grip" 3. Sanding primer: When you need to do all the above AND manipulate the surface geometry. What I have learned so far about sanding primer; Look for drying time, if under 20-30 minutes it is probably just paint with really bad sanding properties. Even if it mentions sandability. Best bet is automotive products from reputable brands. In EU go for Colormatic (expensive) or Presto (cheaper) They lay on heavy, less running, but they shrink when drying. They also have estimations on the finished layer thickness

@marcusc3463 3 года назад

I've been following your channel for the last week. and you're reviews are top notch, you should have over a million subscribers

@jimminey-fooking-cricket4903 3 года назад

I have been sitting on my models because I needed to test the rust-oleum spray cans now I don't thank you for your efforts in aiding all of us.

@kernell__ Год назад

Dude, I really appreciate the work you've put into this vid. Most of the hobby spray primers aren't available where I'm from, so I wasn't sure which auto brand to use for gunpla. I might be able to snatch one of the krylon colormaster or Rust-Oleum painter's touch.

@Warshipmodelsunderway 3 года назад

Very nice test, quite comprehensive. For general plastic modeling work, the various Mr. Surfacers are great. For my big models that go in the water, I like Duplicolor primer, but the Rustoleum sander/fillers are very good as well. Thanks for taking the time to compare all of these!

@bruce12000 2 года назад

Thank you for a great video and great teaching skills + heart in hand for all your viewers

@CJBERMUDEZ23 3 года назад

appreciate the efforts, i now have a new go to primer w mr surface 1500. amazing thanks

@barbatosrex9473 3 года назад

Glad I could help, thanks for watching

@RimsModels 3 года назад

excellent video my friend really indepth video on testing primers really helpful thanks for sharing

@barbatosrex9473 3 года назад

You're welcome buddy

@dcinhere 2 года назад

Holy hell thats a lot of primer! Lots to choose from for all kinds of applications and scenarios.

@analteredaspect Год назад

Great job, mate. You sold me on the Mr Surface.

@barbatosrex9473 Год назад

One of the best primers out there.

@VoidFish 3 года назад

Absolutely awesome! Definitely ditching rustoleum and going to the Mr. Surfaces especially the black. Just wow! I cant believe you did this many! Just watched the whole thing.

@trevorlambert5803 3 года назад

Duplicolor plastic adhesion promoter, which is clear, work’s well also.

@maxdragon91 3 года назад

So glad to see this test video. It answers a lot of my questions! Thank you!

@Andyrewk 2 года назад

The Rustoleum 2X grey say Ultra Coverage to the right of the 2x I do believe it and the white are the same formula just different colors and marketing

@felipetrigueiro9433 2 года назад

you know, you should use the spray on long strikes, pressing it before you are on top of the surface of the kit, not pressing just above it, dont know if im clear

@e.h.3152 3 года назад

Best scale model yt site by far especially for those of us getting back into the hobby after many years away

@barbatosrex9473 3 года назад

Thanks friend, that means a lot to me. Thanks for watching 👍

@fonarte 3 года назад

Been using the Krylon ultra flat primer for a few years now. That stuff works extremely well.

@deanlewis8083 2 года назад

well done sir! thank you for this in depth comparison. many questions answered

@adriancota9440 2 года назад

another helpful video from the best airbrush and surface reviewer. THANKS!

@barbatosrex9473 2 года назад

Thanks buddy 👍

@monkeywrangler5200 3 года назад

You didn’t try it but duplicolor adhesion promoter. It changed my modeling life. Work in automotive and it’s for vinyl body panels mostly (stuff paint doesn’t generally like to bond to), and it’s a blast to use on models. It’s clear so it’s kinda weird to work with.

@tjmmodelcraft8486 2 года назад

I really appreciate your videos Rex, you go above and beyond when you test product. I ended up buying the Mad Works airbrush after checking your video. Keep on keeping on!

@barbatosrex9473 2 года назад

Thank you my friend, many more vids to come 👍

@joshelliott9887 2 года назад

@Perfusionist01 3 года назад

Awesome test! This is a major asset to the hobby. We owe you big time :-) By the way, for model trains or dioramas the Mr. Surfacer 500 is great for a base coat for "concrete"

@bobrivett7645 8 месяцев назад

I use it for brick, concrete walls, sidewalk, etc for my diorama models.

@joegkushner 2 года назад

Thanks for the video. The only one I don't think I saw you hit was TTC (Tactical... Combat Miniatures?) They have a line of color primers as well. You did several I'd never heard of before because I'm from tabletop gaming. The Model Master for example. Usually I hear Tamiya for the 'model' aspect of the hobby.

@ja37d-34 2 года назад

Time to get some Mr Surfacer Black 1500.. PRobably in the jar though - with levelling thinner..

@barbatosrex9473 2 года назад

Both are great. You can't go wrong with either

@Johnny-tt8zc 3 года назад

I have always used Tamiya. Tried the army painter,good stuff and is available through Amazon.Gonna try the Vallejo after seeing this. Take care of yourself and stay safe.🍻🌲

@barbatosrex9473 3 года назад

You too buddy 👍

@allanlowe9346 3 года назад

You never fail to inform and teach Rex. Thanks again for all the work you put in.

@cheehochiu5120 2 года назад

The work deserves a subscribe. Well done….

@barbatosrex9473 2 года назад

Thank you my friend

@outfield1988 8 месяцев назад

You have the best videos on you tube that covers are hobby,you should be proud of your work.

@FlashSprues 2 года назад

Excellent test comparison. Returning to modeling after about 45 years and seen it is a whole new ball game. My biggest concern with automotive and general purpose primers is the solids size. My fear is these would have a tendency to fill the small door and window trim lines.

@tomdelaney19464 3 года назад

Thorough review, great job and thank you for the smell part .

@johnodinsson3635 3 года назад

Thank you for doing everything you do on this channel. It was a long video, but I enjoyed it, had it playing while I doing some painting. I'll have to try that Testors primer and the Mr. Surfacer. Ive used the Army Painter stuff in the past and had decent results with it ..but I'm always looking to improve my arsenal. I wouldve snagged the $105 compressor, but I recently bought the one from Amazon that you linked. At the time, it was the best for the money. Love this channel and it's content, keep up the amazing work!

@hhaste 10 месяцев назад

I didn't realize the self etching primer was only for metal. I used it on a plastic model car prior to knowing that, luckily without any issues at all. I just didn't like how heavy/thick it sprayed, like all Rustoleum cans.. but the paint came out great.

@umutdestan4678 2 года назад

Thanks for all the work, this is very informative!

@dennistemple4383 2 года назад

As a recent returner to the modelling scene this was just the information I needed, Thank you for such a comprehensive test and sharing it.

@xRepoUKx 3 года назад

Barbatos Rex: This has a different kind of nozzle altogether. Everyone: This has a different kind of nozzle! 😁

@barbatosrex9473 3 года назад

😉

@ScottDodsonVideo 3 года назад

Incredible job putting all this together. A great tip for anyone that uses an FDM 3D printer, the primer at 44:30 is fantastic for filling and sanding away your layer lines! Was glad to see this stuff in the video and it really is an awesome primer, especially for 3D printing models. 2-3 coats with sanding in-between will give you a very smooth finish! You should look into a 3D printer for some model printing Rex (as if you don't have enough kits to paint haha)

@barbatosrex9473 3 года назад

What's a 3D printer you recommend..

@ScottDodsonVideo 3 года назад

@@barbatosrex9473 I'd suggest something Resin based if you are looking for the highest quality. I'd highly suggest the Elegoo Mars, available on amazon and fairly affordable for the quality. Here's a great video from another channel I follow :) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Gh7EcEmWa08.html Although if you are going larger scale, an FDM printer may be a better bet. A Creality Ender is a favorite for a lot of people.

@Ale_giro Год назад

@@barbatosrex9473 elegoos are cheap and great printers! Go for a Mars 2 pro (2k) or Mars 3 (4k) but small print size, or Saturn series (bigger print) like S or 2 (both real 4k). If you have space (and money) enough, definitely for Jupiter but... It's huge, really HUGE (expensive, maintenance costs and replacing components are very very expensive)

@Ale_giro Год назад

@@ScottDodsonVideo there is better than just a Mars (not monochrome-lcd!!!) and Creality for the same prices range. Definitely i would NOT recommend those printers! Both neither amazon (official sellers website are WAY CHEAPER than amazon!)

@tachi98lep 2 года назад

This was very informative!

@CptCoitus 3 года назад

I have received very good results with the Brite Touch line of primers on plastic models. But I have noticed that they need to be well-shaken and at a warm temperature. The finish is smooth and sucks down nice into detail. I've only noticed Rex's results when the can isn't shaken thoroughly. Plus, the price is great. I've begun decanting it into my airbrush for finer control.

@OzScalemodeling 3 года назад

Somehow you always seem to do a review on products I am using right now and trying to decide on... Again you answer my questions for me, and I am sure, a lot of others... Cheers 👍🇦🇺

@darkwood777 3 года назад

Wow, thanks for the extensive testing! I think the Testors primer is good for unifying the base color when using different modeling materials like brass, plastic, and resin, but it probably falls way short in the smoothing ability that you have with Mr. Surfacer. I can get Mr. Surfacer in bottles for airbrushing, but my local store doesn't carry the spray cans. So my preferred spray can primer is Tamiya fine in grey or white. Usually white for brighter paints and grey for darker paints. I use Vallejo paints, but have never seen the primer. I would like to try it, now that I've seen your test.

@AlbionVega 3 года назад

Vallejo primer is awesome either in can or in airbrush. It is my favorite primer :D

@jorey4565 3 года назад

Great video ! Hope if you can make a video of the gloss black primer both spraycan and bottle paints too,thanks a lot !!

@barbatosrex9473 3 года назад

Which Gloss Black primer are specifically talking about

@jorey4565 3 года назад

@@barbatosrex9473 if possible the acrylics gloss black primer Vallejo,Badger,Greenstuffworld,etc...(including Tamiya,even it was kind of hybrid acrylic..)bottles and spraycan,thanks a lot !

@Pablogogo 3 года назад

Thanks so much for the review, Appreciate you taking all the time you put into it

@njcivicwagon1 2 года назад

Wow! I appreciate your efforts in all your videos especially this one. I have to get some of that mr surfacer primer especially the black.

@barbatosrex9473 2 года назад

Mr Surfacer is the best 👍

@TheSpazztech 2 года назад

As a miniature gamer/.hobbyist, I find the Vallejo rattle cans are a good middle ground of price to performance. The GW and Army painter stuff is just to pricey for me and the Mister surfacer/tamiya stuff is over kill for painting 50 clan rats.

@SCSuperheavy114 3 года назад

Great video. Your time and effort really paid off. Very thorough reviews of primer. Much appreciated!

@fotomakr 2 года назад

Impressive and informative. Thanks putting it together.

@TimChanMusic 3 года назад

Very nice and informative video, could you do one on top coats?

@markjolyn94 2 года назад

You should try Valspar gray and black. Also you can get different caps like you got with the Vallejo paint from Montana cans,which is also great paint with a wide selection of colors.Speaking of stink,Krylon and Rust-O-Leum silver and gold metallic's are the absolute worst!! It's worse than being in a spray booth shooting lacquer. I have never used Krylon bonding primer,but have used regular Krylon primer with no problem what so ever.I also use Valspar and Dupli-Color primers

@peterbriggs6857 3 года назад

You changed my mind about the Primer I was going to get. Thank you!

@barbatosrex9473 3 года назад

I'm here to help 👍

@THROTTLEPOWER 3 года назад

Great vid, thanks for sharing! 👍👌

@davesmith9844 3 года назад

I wish you had Halfords primer, very popular in the UK

@starscream8163 2 года назад

I really love the Mr Hobby Surfacer Black, I hope it can work as a basecoat for Gloss Green from Tamiya Ts because some people use it for Military Vehicle Models.

@barbatosrex9473 2 года назад

It absolutely can used with Tamiya. It's one of the best base coats for Tamiya. Go for it without any worries

@Ebergerud 3 года назад

The Duplicolor lacquer primer I use (they have many - lots "acrylic/lacquer) has a "fan cap" on the nozzle. I use "Hot Rod Black" - true lacquer, sandable and fillable. Little scratches go away instantly. Approved by YTube uber guru Paul Budzig.

@onemansvideos2134 3 года назад

I've been using the 2 in 1 on my prints its pretty good primer I hit it with 800 grit wet sandpaper with a lil dawn dish soap makes it glass smooth

@TerryWilsonModels 2 года назад

When I use Tamiya sprays the primer helps the final coat adhear... i have found that Tamiya paints can be a bit weak and will rub off.. i have found that primers help prevent that.. that is just my experience and I could be trying to handle the model too soon..

@jenniferwhitewolf3784 3 года назад

Such a huge effort.. THANK you for doing this.. We all benefit

@barbatosrex9473 3 года назад

Thanks for watching buddy, much appreciated 👍

@starscream8163 2 года назад

I have tried Tamiya TS Matte Black as a primer it worked great as primer and it didn't ruined the details on Transformers toys.

@barbatosrex9473 2 года назад

Tamiya paints are pretty universal, great paints 👍

@godfather1116 4 месяца назад

I had goodluck with Rustoleum Universal Bonding Primer for my Gundams. Just need at least 10 to 12 inches distance when spraying. The key is light coats.

@trevorlambert5803 3 года назад

You should try ,or review the BEHR spray paints. Paint and primer in one, I use them a lot and they are great! Excellent primers and clear coat too.

@DavidRamirez-ww5kv 2 года назад

Great video. Can you do a video where you test the various primers for acrylics? Mission Models, Vallejo, Testers, etc.Thanks.

@bmw128racer 7 месяцев назад

Both Rust-Oleum 2X cans say "Ultra Cover." 😜 They just have different labels.

@GallonMilkProductions 2 года назад

You deserve a nobel peace prize tbh

@strangenames6056 2 года назад

ive used a bunch but once i used Mr. surfacer i never looked back hands down the best hobby primer I've even used

@barbatosrex9473 2 года назад

Amen

@strangenames6056 2 года назад

@@barbatosrex9473 i just buy it in bottles now and use my airbrush to spray it but still works just as well plus you can thin it 50/50 with mr color thinner or leveling thinner though i dont really like using my leveling thinner cause it always goes on smooth anyways.

@barbatosrex9473 2 года назад

@@strangenames6056 true, with the Primers you can use hardware store thinner for sure, same great results. Mr is one of my favorite brands

@christopherscott934 2 года назад

Having a bad drying experience currently with Rust-Oleum gray Primer on my T-62. Primered last night and after 24 hrs it's tacky to the touch in areas. Some of the best primer I've ever used are some of the dollar store primers lol.