Scepter Lock | Against the Odds | MTG Modern

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What are the odds of winning (by hard locking the opponent out of the game) with Isochron Scepter and its best friend Silence in MTG Modern? Let's see!
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0:00 Start
0:13 Deck Tech
7:36 Match 1
21:27 Match 2
24:56 Match 3
32:36 Match 4
38:17 Match 5
53:55 Wrap Up

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@reves432 3 года назад

"The lock is unbeatable" Blast Zone: "Am I a joke to you?"

@cloaking111 3 года назад

Board presence: am I a joke to you?

@q0rk523 3 года назад

Sharknado: “What about me?”

@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад

We don't like to talk about Blast Zone ;)

@uwu_senpai 3 года назад

You can also be killed by mutavault, celestial collonade, etc.

@a_mouse6858 3 года назад

@@uwu_senpaiYes, the version here is very weak to creature lands.

@wittmoneyman 3 года назад

Hey Seth! I was your opponent in match 4. I wanted to say I hate you got unlucky with the land drops. I would have love to go to game 3. But the deck is super sweet! Keep up the sweet brews! :-)

@Jonathan-qk5ed 3 года назад

Long story short: Paypal your opponents $1,000 for the PC they just threw across the room in a fit of rage...

@TripIn6 3 года назад

I played teferi-knowledge pool back in 2011-2012 and my friends literally wouldn't play with me if I played that deck. And there was one guy in particular that would want a rules check every single time, even though he had seen it and been told how it works by a judge before. And after getting told by an in person judge that it does intact lock opponents out, he would call the MTG Hotline EVERY SINGLE TIME

@jeffw8674 3 года назад

This is so unbelievably evil, I love it. "We will watch your career with great interest" - Chancellor Palpatine

@dolphincat7132 3 года назад

I love the contrast between Seth's super positive personality and how his favorite thing ever is making opponents miserable.

@cloysterd 3 года назад

Minor suggestion: if you're playing Fabricate, you probably want something like 1 Tormod's Crypt in the SB. It's obviously not as strong as RIP, but the extra value of being able to tutor for it seems like a big deal.

@___ooobodybagooo___ 3 года назад

Seth. Hope your doing good. I remember you talking about scepter and bought a few copies. This is beautiful thanks.

@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад

Glad you liked it!

@reallypissedoffkiwi 3 года назад

Scepter is a good investment! Not so much financially, but because of the amount of fun you have!

@SmugLookingBarrel 3 года назад

I think it's funny that, all these years later, you're finally playing (an updated version of) the deck that introduced you to competitive magic, scepter chant. You've come full circle.

@cruetusnex 3 года назад

The reason I got into modern was your AtO "Owling Mine" deck. I thought of putting Isochron Scepter in because of all the 2-mana instants, like boomerang. Seeing boomerang + iso scept made me think back on that. You really do influence people to play this game, Seth!

@Luteloots 3 года назад

Seth: Favorite thing to do in magic is making other players no longer allowed to play magic. Me: 100% on board Seth: Teferi time raveler Me: Hold up, now you've gone too far!

@faceoctopus4571 3 года назад

I thought his favorite thing was drawing cards.

@benjaminsouthworth5698 3 года назад

@@faceoctopus4571 Seth's two favorite cards are panharmonicon and blood moon, so if that says anything....

@darebrained Год назад

Me: Not. Far. Enough.

@joseph196 3 года назад

Its gonna be weird if I meet Seth in person and he isn't speaking in 1.5x speed.

@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад

When we meet in person I'll try to talk fast :)

@joseph196 3 года назад

@@MTGGoldfish Well played good sir.

@Akrna47 3 года назад

"The lock beats anyone" says the man that just lost a match to a deck that the lock did not beat

@yoursweatersux 3 года назад

It's not the lock without Teferi due to the static ability.

@Kettwiesel25 3 года назад

@@yoursweatersux dredge still doesn't care.

@horsebones727 3 года назад

You know what he means, but the lols are real

@cloaking111 3 года назад

The matches aren't shown in the order they are recorded in, so that might be part of it.

@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад

I mostly meant it *can* beat anyone (well, except Dredge), not that it literally never loses a match :)

@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet 3 года назад

I'm in heaven... I come alive every time I see a hardlock like this. I remember Teferi pool decks with extreme fondness. Especially the salty eldrazi tron player back then. Still fond memories of that one.

@MindstabThrull 3 года назад

Against Dredge you also could have sideboarded in Celestial Purge, since a large chunk of their creatures are black. Path and Supreme Verdict are also reasonable against them.

@neil5652 3 года назад

Also scepter the Boomerang! Make them cast their Prized Amalgam. But still tough match up for the sideboard you brought.

@newtpondskipper 3 года назад

I used to play Scepter Chant back in the day, sadly it got too slow for the meta...apparently Teferi makes it work now. This makes me happy.

@aspasia3 3 года назад

this is the only excusable way to play teferi time raveler

@suna7511 3 года назад

NOPE, but i think its still better than uro, at least tefari forces creatures to be cast.

@TripleGProductions 3 года назад

@@suna7511 What about the original teferi-pool deck he built couple years ago I love that deck still

@Cornelius135 3 года назад

I came here to say that I really wish t3feri was worse because you CAN use him for some interesting stuff -- I just feel dirty playing him 😭

@guillermoromero8041 3 года назад

I love playing narset/hullbreacher and wheel of fortune in edh ehehehe

@konnichi1wa 3 года назад

@@Cornelius135 I refuse to play t3feri, just because he is so oppressively un-fun that the rest of the game he is played in is no longer enjoyable to me

@rakghoul6393 3 года назад

Back when Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir was printed the deck in extended that did this used Orim's Chant and creatures also couldn't attack.

@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад

Yeah, I wonder if they'll ever print Orim's Chant into Modern. It's a big upgrade over Silence.

@FrontLineMarine84 3 года назад

Do not speak the old magic to me (isochron scepter silence), I was there when it was written.

@mrpandabites 3 года назад

This is everything I wanted my Isochron Scepter deck to be. I can't believe I never thought of the interaction between Sceptre and Teferi! This is the bomb-shizzle.

@rrvrs4115 3 года назад

I remember making a Scepter deck back when it first came out using Abeyance and Orim's Chant for a similar lock. Back when Planeswalkers weren't a thing...ah, what a time to play magic :D

@jacobh4077 3 года назад

Thank you for doing this! I've always wanted to see a list with Isochron + Silence but never had the knowledge of the meta to do it well. Love the deck!

@jmdamas 3 года назад

"Prismatic vEsta"... Never change, Seth :)

@jacobdachauer4377 3 года назад

You know I'll watch! That you so much for all your wonderful content!

@nickschneider5091 3 года назад

Omg so happy to see this deck I've been playing the shell of it for years since shortly after silence came out!

@JAArcher0715 2 года назад

It’s great to see a version of my home brew get in on here! Sweet

@dinnerpartyempire 3 года назад

excellent video, I loved it!

@JacobBos1988 3 года назад

Might i sugest playing Muddle the Mixture over Fabricate? It can find scepter, a few scepter targets, can get imprinted itself and is protection! Edit: the transmute can't be countered too.

@7deuc2e38 Год назад

This concept was my favorite deck of all time as a kid and still is today though silence wasn't a thing when I first made this deck. I always played it as a red blue land destruction deck with magnivore as a backup finisher and wildfire to wipe the board and lock them out with boomerrang/scepter

@__4016 3 года назад

I've been playing Jeskai Scepter Lock as my primary deck since Modern was birthed, so super happy to see Seth run a version of the deck. One thing, gotta be runnin that Muddle the Mixture over Fabricate. Knowledge pool and Creature Teferi seemed superfluous. Hero of Dominaria and Scepter are a BFF and would have run over Jace.

@alwaysplaythegame 3 года назад

In match 5, you could boomerang the batterskull. It gives you 1 more turn to find a t3feri for the win.

@leonose14 3 года назад

If only Fabricate was an instant *intently stares at T3feri*

@SublimeSublemon 3 года назад

I'm watching that moment right now. Laughing as he main phases fabricate right after the teferi uptick

@a_mouse6858 3 года назад

I've spent a TON of time studying variants of this deck over the last 2 years. I came to a similar conclusion - when it works it's awesome (and often takes apart top tier decks that don't immediately spew assets onto the battlefield). But it is very hit and miss, especially with aggro. Generally speaking I've found it more successful backing off a bit on the combo in favor of a more control-oriented approach, with the Teferi-Silence combo as one possible line. This combo (even without scepter) is an enormously powerful tempo play, that can yield underestimated benefits in a control-oriented shell. Not the best deck for making friends...

@Xgya2000 3 года назад

3Feri was born for this. He exists in order to force your opponents to let you play Magic, which is essential for wacky combos everywhere.

@sebvieira 3 года назад

Even though I only play EDH, I still watch these video's because not only are they fun to watch, I sometimes pick up some weird combo that I can use in a commander deck. Sometimes multiple video's make up the bulk of one deck :-) So, thanks!

@maloewvalenar2155 3 года назад

Yes! I've been waiting for this!

@AAtac-hw2sf 3 года назад

Sethry, Lurker of the Lock

@fanhoop187 3 года назад

1:50 nice you were talking about this on stream, nice to see a deck based off of twitch chat discussion! (silence / scepter interaction)

@jamesbeaton4354 3 года назад

I play a jeskai control varient of this, with lightning bolts and helix's as the eventual win condition, makes those aggressive match-ups much more palatable (and yes silence lock is in too). Love this deck though

@drewsanders7577 3 года назад

I remember when I first really got into playing magic this was a deck my friends hated. I didn't know about specter back then so I had to use elite arcanist.

@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад

One of my introductions to Magic was playing against a friend's Scepter \ Orim's Chant deck with my janky casual pile. It was brutal, but eventually I figured out I needed to play instant speed ways to kill Scepter. It was a hard but good way to learn Magic.

@coreysierchio4650 3 года назад

Thank you for the content.

@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

@davytyler 3 года назад

This is my kind of deck. This was a fun vid. Congrats on the chest.

@DonovanPresents 3 года назад

This brings me back to my friend's kitchen table deck who did just this, but years ago 😯

@aaronavey3904 3 года назад

@mtggoldfish hey Seth, could we get some vintage or legacy content? I miss Series TDB it was my favourite series

@Corilithon 3 года назад

I've always preferred the name No-Stick, but I have a deep fondness for this type of 'make you hate the game' hard lock.

@cruetusnex 3 года назад

Good attitude, lol "Well the good news is, we get to sideboard!" 22:20

@canismajor1186 3 года назад

All you were missing was the Angel's Grace.

@irarosenblum9062 3 года назад

Feel better Seth!!

@BusterDash 3 года назад

Amazing video

@T4N7 3 года назад

Didn't realize u could counter suspended cards until u said it n I stopped to think about how the ability works n realized it goes on the stack to remove the time counter n that's when u cast Silence. Very clever

@Titanreaver616 3 года назад

This was a lot of fun. But this is a perfect example of why I want some Legacy Against the Odds. You could the older version of this with Orim's Chant. With that you can even set up the lock with creatures in play.

@Kettwiesel25 3 года назад

@43:10 you scoop again even though you had one more turn and a top deck 3feri (potentially) wins you the game.

@TheLowenstein 3 года назад

Sideboard turbofog strategy for the aggro decks? Like Ethereal Haze, or just Celestial purge for the scepter

@nicho4381 3 года назад

ah yes, fair magic.

@gervasiosantos3563 3 года назад

I love this deck! Reminds me of my Lavinia, Azorius Renegade EDH deck. The only combo piece missing is Omen Machine

@cruetusnex 3 года назад

I love Lavinia. Good choice!

@PatriciaCross 3 года назад

This deck really misses Orim's Chant and Cunning Wish. I miss when that was a thing in Extended.

@kahahabahaha 3 года назад

When I was younger, I always wanted to build a deck around exploiting the Scepter. I somehow didn't know about Silence (not sure if it was a card at the time, and I didn't know enough about Gatherer.)

@jackrosen1 3 года назад

Thanks for enabling cc

@maximuscesar 3 года назад

This brings up so many memories. Bad memories of losing to sceptertog but memories nevertheless.

@Platonic69 3 года назад

Prismatic Vesta is my favorite Vesta

@WilliamLimao 3 года назад

I love the Shcrapheap Shcrounger joke

@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад

I miss being able to say Scrapheap Scrounger. People need to play it more :)

@leedsunited8787 3 года назад

Finally modern!!!!!!

@montey3407 3 года назад

I miss against the odds like this

@ardenmcbride2887 3 года назад

Evil Seth, evil

@zotha 3 года назад

Stoneforge decks are often playing Shark Typhoon these days which is a way to get Teferi off the board and maybe get back into the game, probably why they stuck it out for a while

@Seifersythe 3 года назад

Damn that's a long deck tech

@milkshake1395 3 года назад

Scepter + Memory Lapse was my favorite way to lose some friends back then

@cloaking111 3 года назад

Oh man, we can play Unexpectedly Absent as well, that just fills my heart with joy

@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад

I had Lapse of Certainty in the deck for a minute, but didn't realize it cost three rather than two so it doesn't work with Scepter. If Memory Lapse was in Modern it would be in the deck for sure. Basically better Delay.

@durpien 3 года назад

too bad orims chant wasnt legal in modern. Also this deck could use drannith magistrate in the sideboard

@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад

Orim's Chant with Secepter is even more insane!

@MrBurrito 3 года назад

Needs some fogs for the scepters in the SB. Ethereal Haze is a good one.

@RyuBateson218 3 года назад

This deck is sweeeeeeeeet!!

@BentTimeAndSpace 3 года назад

Gotta love a deck where you have an option “in case we need to kill our opponent” instead of letting them scoop lolll

@alwaysplaythegame 3 года назад

This deck should be called... "Suffer in Silence"

@darkgenesis611 3 года назад

Maybe run Angel's Grace somewhere? That's also a lock against something like burn and you can also randomly hose some combo decks.

@whaleofdarkness 3 года назад

Wasn't there an Extended Deck with Orim's Chant instead of Silence? It was quite good if I recalled it correctly.

@user-wluo 3 года назад

Fun fact: shark typhon actually beat the lock (in case of 3feri)

@edde2429 3 года назад

Yes! No spoiler in the beginning

@TomGalonska 3 года назад

Against drege i think you should have boarded out all silence and brought in celestial purge. Purge on a scepter is really good against dredge!

@combosarefun4449 3 года назад

28:05 Oh geez Seth.

@BobPattersonJr 3 года назад

Great deck and video, do as many different scepter decks as possible. Just one question Any reason you didn't include Muddle the Mixture to act as a counter spell, Scepter target, and a tutor for a scepter target?

@somemusicandstuff 3 года назад

Why concede when opponent 5 replayed Snapcaster? You could boomerang the Batterskull and Scepter to keep them from recasting it. Opponent would still have a clock, but you'd buy yourself two more turns to draw an out.

@MrBurrito 3 года назад

Muddle the Mixture seems like a better Fabricate in this deck.

@petersmythe6484 3 года назад

It is funny but one of the best things about 3 mana Teferi is its static ability. Teferi is so strong. Seriously if that were just a Enchantment with the static that does the +1 every turn it would also be really strong.

@brunnun 3 года назад

If you and your opponent have teferi, the scepter combo should still be an out right? Since scepter copies, it doesn’t cast

@maximuscesar 3 года назад

Actually if you take out the small Teferi this is totally an Extended deck from back in the day.

@abheekpandya8717 3 года назад

Might want to put some Narsets in at least the sideboard for an additional lock piece and to help dig for pieces

@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад

I'm not that much of a monster.

@guillermoromero8041 3 года назад

@@MTGGoldfish hahahahahaha

@alwaysplaythegame 3 года назад

Nothing says 'Against the Odds' like T3feri, JTMS, Path, Remand, Snappy... It's probably the close to the 'best' iso-silence lock deck you can build, but honestly you could replace that with almost anything and it would still be a decent deck.

@kitanesenpai2186 3 года назад

i played a good version of this for a while, making it jeskai, with 4 boomerangs, 4 simian, 4 bolt, 4 helix and a few mana leaks and shit, also serum visions over opt because it´s so much better with teferi turn 1 with simian into boomerang scepter means they don´t get to play more than 1 land forever, while any creature based deck basically looses vs path or helix

@refreshdaemon 3 года назад

Can creature lands or creature generating lands keep a deck running despite the lock? Not saying that it will necessarily win b/c of the creature removal, but is there a hope that a deck with Inkmoths or Castle Ardenvale or such can still put up a fight against the Scepter Lock?

@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад

Yeah, we have Field of Ruins, but creature lands can potentially still get is through the lock.

@kaszael 3 года назад

It's a hard lock life for us.

@geraldsinclair9852 3 года назад

Seth: Tefeiri turn four Subtitles: teh fairy turd

@mtgcube8434 3 года назад

What about Spellskite? Can negate a small attacker, buy you a load of time, and most importantly protect the Scepter at 0 mana allowing you a decent lock without Tef.

@ctomsky 3 года назад

I love Delay and Remand.

@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад

They are pretty synergistic in this deck for sure.

@americantourist8844 3 года назад

Lol I made something similar years ago with enchanted evening and some creature that made a lot of cats

@tsuki7064 3 года назад

Instead of fabricate, I would suggest muddle the mixture. Its another 3 mana tutor for scepter while also is another counterspell

@wraithita 3 года назад

I think Seth use Fabricate because can be flashed with teferi, Btw I think yours is a very good suggestion!

@Rogue_Biologist 3 года назад

Fabricate also has the benefit of also fetching Knowledge Pool as a back up if, say for example, the scepter gets thoughtseized and then surgical extracted

@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад

Hmm, interesting. Would lose the ability to get Knowledge Pool but being able to find Boomerang (or put Muddle on Scepter in a pinch) might make it worth it anyway.

@tsuki7064 3 года назад

@@MTGGoldfish I built a similar deck to this and my wincon was actually thing inthe icesince scepter casts the silence. And that way, muddle can also fetch thing as well

@Cornelius135 3 года назад

Could probably do something strong with t3feri and possibility storm -- the same lock as pool -- but with 4 delay and 4 tibalt's trickery for a ton of cheap counters! Not sure how much that matters when youre theoretically locking on t5, so remand or mana leak probably work fine... But being in red for storm means trickery is an option.

@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад

Yeah, if you want to focus on the Teferi lock Possibility Storm gets it done.

@wickast4941 3 года назад

this kind of deck doesn't make people quit magic, it makes them switch to dredge

@jfb- 3 года назад

Are you aware that teferi's uptick lets you cast fabricate at instant speed?

@mitsuhide1vampire 3 года назад

muddle the mixture would have been better than fabricate, same cost to tutor and it's a decent scepter imprint target

@TheMattmatic 3 года назад

47:20 If opponent draws Field of Ruin + their own Colonnade, that could be an out right?

@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад

Yeah, except I don't think most control decks play Colonnade anymore. If they do have it in their deck it would potentially be an out though.

@faceoctopus4571 3 года назад

37:48 Why didn't you cast scepter and exile purge? After that you can exile their creatures.

@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад

I felt like we were too far behind to take the turn off playing Scepter and that we needed to try to answer some things first. Scepter is pretty sweet once you get to four mana since you can activate it in the same turn. I was hoping our opponent would whiff, we could slow them down with Gusts and then draw lands to Scepter + activate in the same turn.