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Schielhau Krumphau 

Bratislavský šermiarsky spolok
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Please read: After a year Bratislavsky sermiarsky spolok brings you a new video. This time we tried to cover something which is rather rare to be seen on YT - Krumphau (Crooked cut) and Schielhau (Squinting Hew) with its "stucken". Hope you enjoy it! Comments welcome!
The video is blocked in Germany, please check this link instead: vimeo.com/20504334

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@xxslicexx
@xxslicexx 10 лет назад
I like that these guys "really" get the concept of taking the other persons base/initiative away by putting their body/weight in the right place. Too many people not doing that.
@badlaamaurukehu
@badlaamaurukehu 5 лет назад
All your base.
@Wraithninja1
@Wraithninja1 7 лет назад
you guys need to be hired as action consultants for hollywood
@Lite012
@Lite012 9 лет назад
-Watches over and over again eagerly waiting for new video-
@JegolS
@JegolS 12 лет назад
I love the camera angles, this is a great show!
@Shogun1289
@Shogun1289 9 лет назад
this is awesome, i love watching you guys fence
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 13 лет назад
@maeljin hi. we practice both of the possibilities, I`m not sure if it is mentioned somewhere explicitely, but for example if you read Danzig, in his krump zu fleche stuck he doesn`t mention stepping at all. Ofc that does not mean we shouldn`t do it. I would say that it depends on intention, distance and tempo
@LionheartSJZ
@LionheartSJZ 8 лет назад
I really respect you for what you doing and also for doing it with hardly any protection while at the same time I'm shaking my head for the same reason!
@frenchgalloglass5204
@frenchgalloglass5204 7 лет назад
exactly. Gloves are a minimum
@thomastucker7317
@thomastucker7317 5 лет назад
@@frenchgalloglass5204 I mean, theyre performing choreographed drills
@googleuser2016
@googleuser2016 Год назад
@@thomastucker7317 oh you don't know Anton. What they do in this training is restricted fighting, where they limit the amount of actions. Footwork and timing is free, hit intent is real (to the head). Some call it aliveness drills. But of course you have to take care not to hit in the wrong place. Anton is definitely not a choreography guy. But what I can imagine is that some parts are maybe 10% or 20% faster than filmed.
@Kunstdesfechtens
@Kunstdesfechtens 13 лет назад
Another notable thing about the video is the control used. Fast attacks but light contact, done very nicely. Fast doesn't have to mean a lot of impact. It's nice to see people drill at high speed with steel but in a way that is safe and controlled, but without huge artifacts creeping into the techniques used. Well done.
@MadassAlex
@MadassAlex 12 лет назад
Sup guys. I'm a practitioner of KdF from Australia, and I must say that I love your videos. The group I'm with, the Glenn Lachlan College of Arms, do our own research and interpretation, and we've made a similar interpretation of the martial art. It's good to know that somewhere out there, on the other side of the world, someone else is thinking the same things as us. :D
@hotspurschool
@hotspurschool 13 лет назад
Absolutely fantastic work! We'll have to get you guys over to Britain!
@andreixuereb1294
@andreixuereb1294 12 лет назад
Very good demonstration of timing and technique. Well done guys! Best regards, Andrei Xuereb
@Zineas
@Zineas 8 лет назад
I can't get enough of this
@fatmanlaughingstill
@fatmanlaughingstill 13 лет назад
You guys are sooo bad ass! awsome skills!
@Vondanzigkungfu
@Vondanzigkungfu 13 лет назад
Excellent! Great speed and intensity.
@nihao123456ftw
@nihao123456ftw 6 лет назад
great video. best to watch at 50% speed and try to predict what moves they will perform as you watch!
@demomanchaos
@demomanchaos 12 лет назад
1:45 The guy getting stabbed just doesn't have any fucks to give. Great videos. Beautiful swordplay.
@robertplacencia9141
@robertplacencia9141 2 года назад
So clean!
@Kunstdesfechtens
@Kunstdesfechtens 13 лет назад
Well done! Keep up the outstanding work!
@Scropecaptayne
@Scropecaptayne 13 лет назад
Very professional through out!
@michealhoffstater9810
@michealhoffstater9810 7 лет назад
This here is one of those videos I keep around for when people start saying that longswords are slow.
@akunev
@akunev 13 лет назад
Awesome speed and power; looks like a spark flying at 2:15!
@Hrafnhistorical
@Hrafnhistorical 11 лет назад
This is brilliant, I'm currently not able to train outside the context of reenactment so a lot of this stuff is a bit too "deathy", but soon I'll no doubt be looking to this stuff a great deal! I love this video...
@volarion
@volarion 13 лет назад
beautiful strikes i learned a lot just watching
@romanstaniszewski1030
@romanstaniszewski1030 3 года назад
BEST HEMA SPARRING VIDEO ! PLEASE MAKE MORE ! DOBRA ROBOTA SŁAWIANIE !!!
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 13 лет назад
@Berkanno glad to help! good luck with practice
@mardby
@mardby 13 лет назад
brilliant stuff!
@SavageInsight
@SavageInsight 11 лет назад
Best longsword sparring video on youtube.
@JolinarX
@JolinarX 12 лет назад
I...can't...stop...watching...this video!
@AdelaideSwordAcademy
@AdelaideSwordAcademy 13 лет назад
love it guys!!! be great to see some work emphasising stepping into distance - much of this starts pretty much in range but, again great training, good results
@Grivian
@Grivian 4 года назад
This is awesome
@taylorahern3755
@taylorahern3755 3 года назад
Amazing, just amazing👍👍👍👍👍
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 13 лет назад
@maeljin thanks for your oppinion! there is still much to learn, we`re somewhere at the beginning:)
@omnius28
@omnius28 12 лет назад
Awesome video!!
@Desdicharo
@Desdicharo 12 лет назад
Gergely Farkas from ARS ENSIS (HUN), great video THX guys for the upload!!!
@Halofreakanoid
@Halofreakanoid 12 лет назад
Our group uses only helmets and gloves, and we aim for hits to the arms and legs as well. "What hurts, teaches."
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 13 лет назад
@mardby thank you very much!
@halletheone
@halletheone 13 лет назад
Thumbs up!! Great Work !
@hathiphnath
@hathiphnath 12 лет назад
Excellent stuff! Add more! =)
@kneeinyourface
@kneeinyourface 6 лет назад
Very very nice!!!
@the26thhour
@the26thhour 13 лет назад
@johnmeadowcourt Thank you. My god what beautful blades!
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 13 лет назад
@BuscoBeast Hi, it was bought in a regular sports store, but I`m sure some googling will do. However I do not recommend them for sparring, as they are quite softly padded
@jasonbaldwin273
@jasonbaldwin273 5 месяцев назад
I would love to see video of this being used in sparring. It looks very impressive, and I am obsessing over it... but at the same time your starting measure is so close it looks like the potential for doubles is huge.
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 12 лет назад
thank you!
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 13 лет назад
@MarkHolgate thanks! there was a lot of stepping into distance, but that adding that to the video would double the duration. But nothing special, kinda normal walking or running (rushing) in:)
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 13 лет назад
@SamGCampbell thanks! the intermezzo is just what I saw when I closed my eyes listening to that music (unlike the main protagonist of Clockwork Orange:))
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 12 лет назад
bucklers are very favorite amongst HEMA practitioners and may stand well against other weapons/combinations
@SaintCronch
@SaintCronch 12 лет назад
Ahh the lovely sparks at 0:22
@frallinger
@frallinger 11 месяцев назад
Lifting this!
@Zwerchhau
@Zwerchhau 12 лет назад
Nice, good stuff.
@primalpunch
@primalpunch 12 лет назад
Very freaking cool!!
@permhaaland
@permhaaland 12 лет назад
hey, do the scheitelhauw too! :D Keep up the good work!
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 13 лет назад
@Kunstdesfechtens thanks! we`ll try to:)
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 13 лет назад
@SethMan91 thanks a lot! schielhau and krumphau rock;)
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 12 лет назад
Thanks Zwechhau! :)
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 11 лет назад
thx, but this is just a practice video. for sparring videos check our other channel .com/user/svenkovejdeti
@aureusunicornis
@aureusunicornis 13 лет назад
nice work one more time
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 13 лет назад
@taffy1975 thank you very much Anders! Cheers to Goteborg!
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 12 лет назад
thx!
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 11 лет назад
thank you! this is just a technique demonstration
@AdelaideSwordAcademy
@AdelaideSwordAcademy 13 лет назад
@johnmeadowcourt know what you mean. i'm personally more and more interested in that particular phase of the fight, and i think it's often neglected - we rush straight to krieg and neglect the approach which is a critcal part of the vorshlag. that would make a video of it's own, though, and not one which as exciting as this one - except perhaps to serious fencer!
@AshNavarre
@AshNavarre 13 лет назад
I like this video! Now we try to do with this video quality! Step by step I think we'll make it!!
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 12 лет назад
@MadassAlex thx for nice words! Cheers to Australia
@VishnuZutaten
@VishnuZutaten 11 лет назад
This is exactly the argument I always raise in discussions :P
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 13 лет назад
@JolinarX thanks! which one? there are three songs in the video:)
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 12 лет назад
@Jessj85 thx!
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 13 лет назад
@JolinarX no, those are ensifer swords (type into google)
@EPEEMedievale
@EPEEMedievale 10 лет назад
magnifique!!!
@Romeowasbleeding1
@Romeowasbleeding1 12 лет назад
Great video guys! Top notch, and smooth! Even better that your Slovaks ;)
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 13 лет назад
@aureusunicornis Thanks Marco! Cheers to Croatia!
@dustfurn
@dustfurn 12 лет назад
What is the source for the image at 1:26? Great video, I learn something new from it every time i watch it!
@taffy1975
@taffy1975 13 лет назад
Sweeeeet! Keep up the great work! /Anders
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 13 лет назад
@halletheone thanks!
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 11 лет назад
2:39 is rather an easter egg. Reaction to one discussion on SVK forums regarding 1467 Talhoffer plate where he breaks Ochs with "oberhaw erlugen"
@aalama
@aalama 12 лет назад
1:02 - 1:06 was badass. I liked that exchange. :D
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 13 лет назад
@raeplolz hi! we learned by studying old manuscripts and treatises, the rest is practice
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 12 лет назад
@mkozachek in the 2nd part of the video we have 4 examples of "wirff den ort auf die hende" if that is the case. about the footwork, we practice every kind of stepping and rather let us not limit on one way. I would be careful with interpreting "wol auff dein rechte seitten" though, you can do a krumphau in may ways. Even the camera angle may be misleading.
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 13 лет назад
@hotspurschool thanks! would definetely love to!:)
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 12 лет назад
@bsapaka 1560 - Joachim Meyer Msc. A4-2 from Lund
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 12 лет назад
@FingonNL Ensifer - Jan Chodkiewicz
@the26thhour
@the26thhour 13 лет назад
I enjoyed watching this & I really like that sword! What type is it & where could I buy one online? Thank you 8)
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 11 лет назад
thank you and good luck with HEMA :)
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 12 лет назад
thx! one day we'll do the rest:)
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 13 лет назад
@Vondanzigkungfu thank you! cheers to slovenia
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 11 лет назад
yes they are :)
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 12 лет назад
@JegolS thx!
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 13 лет назад
@fatmanlaughingstill thanks
@IIDASHII
@IIDASHII 11 лет назад
Sparks flying at 2:15. These dudes aren't messing around!
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 12 лет назад
@halfassedfart Mass Effect 2 OST - Jump Drive
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 12 лет назад
@ElArteDeLaFuga if we were to engage in a freefight I wouldn`t hesitate a moment, since this is a demonstration of prepared and controlled exercises I wouldn`t mind showing it in a swimming suit :)
@halfassedfart
@halfassedfart 12 лет назад
@johnmeadowcourt Just curious, what is the music used in the first 15 seconds or so? It sounds very familiar but I can't place it.
@6arcsn1sky
@6arcsn1sky 12 лет назад
It's too bad that not too many people wouldn't think that these styles are martial arts since the term came from Europe. Keep up with the work.
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 13 лет назад
@Hara861 dakujeme!
@Ilfangirate
@Ilfangirate 12 лет назад
Very impressive display! What is the music used in the itermezzo?
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 12 лет назад
thx!:)
@billtheswordguy5914
@billtheswordguy5914 10 лет назад
Would like to see a commentary on which fighters are doing what..
@CajunCoder
@CajunCoder 9 лет назад
Read Ringeck / Von Danzig. What they practice is pretty much "by the book," but they practice it in a very fluid and alive manner which is impressive to watch.
@CajunCoder
@CajunCoder 9 лет назад
Well, that is something that irks me as well. That, and the fluidity of their movements at times; on occasion, they appear to rush a sequence of movements a bit artificially. But, I try to reserve judgement -- they seem to be trying to apply the core principles of the art in (at least what they perceive) a realistic manner. That mentality is more important in the long run than any minor discrepancies in technique.
@CajunCoder
@CajunCoder 9 лет назад
***** I would actually disagree on that particular point. I feel that modern fencers are too timid, and I will explain why. Though Danzig warns of not "rushing into the war," Lichtenauer clearly states that one should strike the in range directly and to the man without fear, and in earnest -- not employing the "jumping in and out of distance and faking and feinting" that modern competitors are so fond of. Moreover, I find a clear parallel between Lichtenauer's system and previous martial arts I have studied; Wing Chun, in particular, is eerily identical to Lichtenauer in method (attacking via direct lines, chasing the man and not the hands or blade, working from the bind and responding to pressure, the application of simultaneous attack and defense, etc.), and I think what Danzig is likely referring to about "rushing into the war" is what we would refer to as "chasing hands" in Wing Chun. Many people, when they are out of contact and used to working from a bind or "bridge," will chase their opponents hands or weapons in order to try to build that bridge. In Wing Chun, this usually means chasing the opponent's lead hand with some technique you propose to use, and will more often than not, put you in danger, as your opponent can simply move that hand and hit you elsewhere. To make a bridge or bind safely, you have to threaten your opponent by attacking him directly; essentially, giving him an attack that he must parry to ensure his own safety. From there, you now have come safely to the bind or bridge by chasing the man, and can work within it, as opposed to seeking it prematurely by chasing that which can move more readily and surprise you (the hand, or blade).
@MartinFabian
@MartinFabian 9 лет назад
***** ***** Hey guys, keep in mind this is not a sparring but a demo/presentation of what we do (or did, considering it is 4yo). It "follows the book". Regarding the speed, it's more or less a similar speed in which things occur in sparring.
@MartinFabian
@MartinFabian 9 лет назад
***** O rly? Reading insightful thoughts like "mentality is wrong" "too fast to process properly" makes me doubt your understanding of the difference. Tell me more about wrong mentality. If you also have any videos of you fencing to share, I'd be delighted to see it:)
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 11 лет назад
Thank you! HEMA is ubercool:)
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 12 лет назад
thx! intermezzo - beethoven symphony no 9 :)
@johnmeadowcourt
@johnmeadowcourt 12 лет назад
@dustfurn 1533 - Gregor Erhart E.1939.65.354 from Glasgow. Thx!
@JolinarX
@JolinarX 13 лет назад
Brilliant! Whats the name of the song?
@mkozachek
@mkozachek 12 лет назад
@Johnmeadowcourt correct me if I'm wrong, but it seemed like most of your krumphaus were going to the opponent's blade. Is this your school's interpretation of the cut, or a safety practice? Also, a comment about your footwork - it seems like you only ever do advancing steps. At my group we always practiced the krumphau with an out step rather than a direct step.
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