Schluter Shower Part 4: How to Tile a Shower Pan...Penny Tile Tips

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Today we discuss tips for how to tile a shower pan using penny tile mosaics. Sure, tile mosaics look amazing but they require attention to detail. So we share how to make installations much better.
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Tip #1 - Install pre-sloped shower pans over a flat and level substrate according to directions
Tip #2 - Waterproof shower walls and flood test the shower system
Tip #3 - Use the correct thin-set mortar, e.g. Schluter's ALL-SET, and NOT MASTIC!!!
Tip #4 - Pick tile mosaics with very little adhesive between the tile and mesh
Tip #5 - Choose the right trowel size according to the tile size, shape, and thickness
Tip #6 - Directional trowel thin-set mortar and achieve 95% thin-set coverage
Tip #7 - Leave an expansion and contraction joint between mosaics and the wall/shower curb
Watch our video for more tips on how to tile a shower pan using penny tiles
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@seekthtruth 6 месяцев назад

ok ive been doing tile for years and i learned a lot right here

@moneymakingmikeg.9555 5 лет назад

I have to figure out how to re phrase that you guys are just killin it with the knowledge!!! I can't resist the redundancy because you guys are droppin mad knowledge in EVERY video!! Dirty Jersey out!!!

@HomeRepairTutor 5 лет назад

thanks man, we haven’t made an overview video like this in awhile. Maybe it would be good to do more of them 🤔

@moneymakingmikeg.9555 5 лет назад

@@HomeRepairTutor yes!!!

@KyleDearth Год назад

FYI, if you use a 1/4" trowel you will be cleaning lots of thinset out from between the tile.

@alfredcoates1422 29 дней назад

100% agree. Need a smaller trowel or knock down the ridges.

@milanroets9697 5 лет назад

I used these a few months ago. Grouting was more of a challenge then I thought it would be. Had to go back over it in spots a couple more times

@kevco67 4 года назад

I just wanted to say that I live all of your content! Keep it up! I also had a quick question... Would the tile nippers work well for 2 inch hexagon Mosaic? Or would you suggest something else?

@stecjason 2 года назад

awesome video! Subscribed. I'm buying the monolith nippers instead of renting a tile saw

@goprobe_a_harmel6875 5 лет назад

Awesome, I’m doing the same penny tiles and this is very helpful. What kind of corner shelf is that and where could I pick one up?

@Titantitan001 2 года назад

Schluter suggests not using 1x1 or penny tile I thought?

@iv__vibe1957 Год назад

Very thorough! Thanks

@chadhuffman5270 4 года назад

why is it not recommended to use a mastic? I have started my tiling project. half way done. I have 4x12 porcelain tile. Penny tile bands. thank you in advance.

@AprilGarciaDfw Месяц назад

Hi What are your recommendations for cleaning penny tile bathroom floors?

@Wiggles1 4 года назад

You know your stuff dude. Thanks.

@HomeRepairTutor 4 года назад

thank you

@classicbluford 4 года назад

What tile is that on wall of shower? Thanks. Great video.

@craigadams640 4 года назад

Your videos are excellent and they have saved me headaches. Curious why no mastic on the shower pan? I have a pre molded pan (i.e.,Tile Redi) that I am installing now, and it calls for using their redi-poxy epoxy to bed the tile in. It came with the stuff. Is this a bad idea?

@williamschubach3489 5 лет назад

Do you recommend applying the silicone caulk BEFORE tiling the walls? Or after?or does is matter?

@staciegibson3875 Год назад

I have a rock floor in my small shower. My grout keeps faking off about 3 days after we use it. I have tried regrouting 3 times. Do you have any ideas for me?

@RK_RX 2 года назад

Did you use a sealant on the penny tile prior or after installations?

@sevendust07660 Год назад

So you do silicon between floor and walls? Floor and curb as well?

@turboflush 5 лет назад

What do you mean by the back covered in glue? Maybe cheap tiles get sloppy? I have had stickers on the back.. always remove them.

@HomeRepairTutor 5 лет назад

excess adhesive that covers most of the tile surface area and prevents it from bonding to the mortar

@elizabethselby8254 4 года назад

Hi, wondering what you would do, or where you would caulk, if you're using base tile on the shower floor where it meets the wall. The tile I'm using is a "flat top with cove base."

@sholman 4 года назад

I was hoping for more information on how to lay the sheets so that the seams don’t show.

@HomeRepairTutor 4 года назад

if you can see the outline of sheets via thin-set then they're too far apart. As you set each sheet it doesn't hurt to stand up and get a different perspective.

@crash6674 2 года назад

Dosent Schluter say not to use small tile on the foam shower pans?

@HomeRepairTutor 2 года назад

previously yes, but not anymore

@robertrbriggsiii5461 2 года назад

I've done penny tile on schluter base as per video... holding up well

@chrissimon8403 5 лет назад

Another good job boys!!

@HomeRepairTutor 5 лет назад

thank you Chris, always appreciate your support!

@Project_Cummins 5 лет назад

Great informative video

@HomeRepairTutor 5 лет назад

thank you, hopefully the tips are helpful

@Project_Cummins 5 лет назад

I do it for a living, it's always appreciated to see other ideas, and tips to do something better, and potentially other ways to do it. Love the channel!!!

@HomeRepairTutor 5 лет назад

awesome! Always feel free to share your tips, we enjoy learning as much as sharing 👍🏼

@brookecasadelsol6464 Год назад

Hello! I am about to use marble penny tile on a bathroom floor and I'm not sure what to do in the doorway. The tile will butt up to carpet. Thanks!

@MFaith777 Год назад

Put in a wood threshold.

@rickboerkoel9233 2 года назад

I’m just not sure how quickly you respond, but my question is do you sanded or non-sanded grout when you grout penny tile?

@spikefivefivefive 2 года назад

Unsanded

@AllBayEveryDay 2 года назад

Sanded! Never use non sanded grout In high water applications. It will 100 percent of the time deteriorate over time.

@yevgenikovelman3306 4 года назад

Would 1/4 x3/16 V notch work?

@ajmueller5871 2 года назад

Hi! Can I do a clear resin or polyurethane on top of Penny tile? I have marble Penny tile floor but they stick out still after 2 regrouts. We want to have that ‘wet look’ on the black tile/black grout, but also give some protection from feet/knees when bathing our baby. Happy to Venmo you for the answer.

@ajmueller5871 2 года назад

@@MrAarobinson89 No, can’t take the risk of it ruins the floors. Stupid marble Penny tile was marked as wall/floor. But it’s mostly just a wall tile because it’s not rounded at the edge, it’s sharpe. Cost too much to risk ruining.

@K9388-n3z 2 года назад

What if you got to remove a tile on Kerdi board for a repair….?

@russellradcliffe1306 4 года назад

Shouldn’t use anything smaller then 2”x2” on Schluter pre sloped pans. Dry pac is the way to go.

@SmittyFan 4 года назад

Is expansion joint necessary on concrete slab?

@JustinMentionedIt Год назад

1/4 trial didn’t ooze out the top ? Seems like it would make a mess

@blackpillrising3164 Год назад

Nice

@stecjason 2 года назад

right off the bat, the tile is a medium gray, grey if you hail from the uk. but I like your immediacy - dude get to the point! you do that, and it's appreciated, knowing that longer play time is to your $$$ advantage.

@Kodobro 6 месяцев назад

i have penny tile and somehow they screwed up the install. alot of the penny tile have released from the floor. i have splotches that no tile guy will fix

@mofahrd4641 2 года назад

OK - this is good - but penny mosaic tile is NOT easy to set and clean out all the thinset and definately NOT easy around the Schluter (or any) SS square. I'm working thru it w all these vids, committed LOL -

@alexill 5 лет назад

Could you use the Schluter shower pan in combination with a different brand for the walls? Like goboard or cement board?

@HomeRepairTutor 5 лет назад

anything is possible but different materials most likely cancel Schluter’s warranty.

@williammartin9450 4 года назад

Schluter do not recommend using tiles smaller than 2" on their Kerdi shower bases. Anything smaller is usually thinner and cant support point loads over the foam base. These small tiles DO fail on Schluter bases. If in doubt call their tech support before installing!

@codyrobison6817 4 года назад

I just got into a heated argument with a guy on landberg tile tv channel in the comment section he said hes been doing penny rounds and pebbles for years on the foam pans and I told him that's a definite failure down the road you should always use mud pans and I gave my opinion on why i thought the foam pans were junk and a mortar bed is the better way to go he didnt agree and got all pissed

@corbintileco Год назад

That is not correct that only applies to ditra

@williammartin9450 Год назад

I'm not interested in arguing about it but if you call Schluter tech support they will cover themselves by saying they recommend 2"x2". I've replaced 2 failed foam bases with 1" tiles so I can only speak from my experience but I only do 2"x2" as a minimum. There are so many variables can affect any installation.

@corbintileco Год назад

@@williammartin9450 that’s because there wasn’t the proper amount of thinset under them. Call them and you will find out there is no size limitation but a minimum thinset requirement of a bed of 3/16 mortar to achieve proper coverage and strength. Just look at the box they come in and you can clearly see you are wrong. I just spoke with my rep about this last week.

@williammartin9450 Год назад

@@corbintileco Congratulations on being "right" 👏🏻 You must be a joy to work with and for.

@samuely5892 2 года назад

Is it recommended that you don’t back-butter penny tile before you lay it onto the thinset? You don’t mention this step at all and it looks like you didn’t back-butter. Can you address this point? Thx

@CrzBonKerz21 2 года назад

You’re also not supposed to install penny tile in schluter base.

@guycleveland5946 2 года назад

@@CrzBonKerz21 you're not?

@CrzBonKerz21 2 года назад

@@guycleveland5946 no, minimum tile size per schluter guidelines is 2x2”

@leeg1101 4 года назад

Great video but I'm still so confused. How do I create a slope for the water in the pan to drain properly. Is that created with thinset?

@erikaslt 4 года назад

Lee Gibbs the pan has a pre slope built into it

@mofahrd4641 2 года назад

maybe not for this but i set black penny pan under white subway tile - any great link of grouting w 2 different colors? The Mosaic was on sheets and was not even, so it must be white where I want my black penny/trim/niche to be black

@PKChangeForAfrica Год назад

Heads up you can't or shouldn't install a tile that's smaller than 2"square on any ditra or kerdi foam floors.

@bradroth2249 Год назад

Is it OK if you use epoxy grout? That or 3500 psi high performance grout is required for Hydro-Blok foam pans.

@fotopdo 8 месяцев назад

That is only for Ditra, no limit for shower trays…. Schluter has commented on this in a few RU-vid video comments.

@caroledevlin5185 4 года назад

Watching shower fail video’s (by others), Penney tiles are a no-no for shower pans. Water penetrates, not good integrity, too mushy grout lines. Look it up!

@HomeRepairTutor 4 года назад

showers fail not due to tile but rather the waterproofing. Tile is not waterproof and neither is grout. You should reference the Tile Council of North America and not trust everything you see on RU-vid

@caroledevlin5185 4 года назад

Home Repair Tutor Thanks for your feedback, great videos.

@codyrobison6817 4 года назад

Never ever use penny mosaics on a foam prefab pan either hopefully your not promoting that