Schmovement in Video Games 

Love the commentary thanks for adding it

Love that idea of adding bonus commentary subtitle track (and of course also having proper subtitles available, great to see an accessible video). I usually watch a video just once and move on, but having a reason to watch again for that was great. I subscribed after watching the video the first time, but if I didn't that bonus definitely would have done it. Great video

be prepared for the Atrioc horde

the bonus commentary in subtitles is a really sick idea

@@eamonnator hi

Very interesting! I was not aware of that interaction but I definitely can see how possibilities can branch off from there. Thanks for sharing!

Edit: I saw an article about Project A2! Best of luck! It's a shame that it died

that's awesome

Not everyone wants to spend 1000 hours learning the move. Pharah just needs different skills

​@@veimat3394You day that as if it takes 1,000 hours, it takes ten minutes of even. But you _keep getting better_ as you play, even 1,000 hours later, and that's fun.

@@veimat3394 You don't have to spend 1000 hours learning to rj tho. Its pretty easy to do basic stuff. Theres just a lot more to learn if you want to.

Right and he completely glossed over mercy

Same

the glizzlord himself, mister frank fingers if u will…truly a brandon “atrioc” ewing viewer moment. perchance.

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Same. Straight from the glizzy glarketer

Trackmania is the perfect example of this. The skill ceiling is insanely high and is much much more than the average racing game.

I think this also applies to Rocket League. At first it can seem hard to play, but once you’re used to it, the controls feel so good.

@@christianwoodbury2480 Yes Rocket League was also one of the titles that first came to mind. I ended up expanding on Trackmania due to its history but pretty much everything I said also applied to RL.

Every racing game is basically all about schmovement, that's what makes them so fun to play!

Celeste has SO much schmovement once you get into it

Love your work, thanks for watching :)

Most definitely, I started playing with voice chat off and music on because it made the game almost ten fold better. I wish it was respected more for what it is rather than the community.

Gorilla tag scared the shit out of me and I don't know why

yes

Finally someone who comments about Lucio and actually finished the video haha

all video game analysis videos are like this lol, its nothing special.

if you want to watch more of this style razbutin does video game analisis videos like this, just for multiple years now and so has a bit more expeairence, main difference would be raz makes 25+ long vidoes talking about a video game thing

5 months ago razbutin made a video talking about how games make boring movment not boring

@EnchieBt goated pfp

I agree so much broski!

I love your edits!!

I genuinely do not understand the praise for fortnite's building. Fortnite's base movement is static and unexpressive (even the slide they added feels constricting, its not nearly as responsive or freeing as something like apex's slide) and on top of that theyve tacked on a clunky building mechanic that serves to cause a mess of visual clutter and, importantly, doesnt augment the movement in any interesting way. Theres a lack of expressiveness thats present in a movement shooter's mastery over momentum. Sure, im just bad at it. But ive really tried to wrap my head around it several times, just trying to get it to click, and i keep concluding that its just a poorly implemented mechanic. And removing it, while it does improve the experience for me, just leaves a rather mediocre platforming third person shooter. That being said i can respect the fact that obviously im missing something, but i do tend to feel like no one actually plays fortnite for its combat, since to me, most of the "fun" things about it are completely divorced from the main combat mechanics

@@YellowEyedGamert takes a long time to get good at, and it genuinely does feel terrible when you aren’t. This biggest thing is to turn your graphics settings way the fuck down. Ping is important, FPS is important, but the most important thing is input delay. Performance mode, low textures, and no shadows make the game look like ass but it feels so fucking smooth Edit: also finding good key binds and enabling scroll wheel edit reset if you’re on keyboard

@@YellowEyedGamer I would say that the building mechanic impacts how you traverse the map enough to consider it a movement tool in and of itself, but in any case it sounds like you're not a fan of it and that's completely fair. However, I think another important thing to consider is that whilst, yes, the base movement kit is otherwise fairly limited, there's an absolute ton of items and map elements that expand upon it in a bunch of different ways. Items such as launch pads (put you into a flying state from which you can open and close your glider), crash pads (bounce you in a direction based on your momentum and the angle they were placed at), alien nanites (create an anti-gravity field that affects all players in its radius), various iterations of grappling hooks with different functions, and so much more - not only are they all interesting, dynamic movement tools by themselves, but they work in tandem with building and map design to allow for a lot of creative uses that feel rewarding when you discover them. I think the unfortunate thing is that by nature of its content cycle, eventually those movement items get vaulted. They'll still be available to use in custom modes, and generally there will be something old or new to take the place of whatever was just lost, but it still sucks for all of the time you may have put into using and experimenting with that item to become effectively moot until it gets unvaulted - something that isn't guaranteed to ever happen. That said, the silver lining is that if you enjoy the learning process, Fortnite offers a pretty consistent flow of new tools to pick up or returning tools that may gain some cool new uses when combined with any other new features introduced since its last appearance. So, whilst the movement options available are pretty unconventional compared to established movement shooters, I'd argue it's not too out of left field to call it a cousin of the genre.

Fortnite can have one of the schmoviest Schmovements out there. But it takes a hell lot of time. Unlike other games where you immediately get all the tools to schmove with the press of a button, in Fortnite you first have to spend hundreds if not thousands of hours to get there… But the ability to smoothly edit, build and cleaverly use bugs to make yourself slighlty quicker can feel smoother then in most other games. Tweacking graphics helps a lot too, it’s just like in Minecraft where without Quake Pro you won’t schmove no matter how good you are, but by activating Quake Pro, you immediately feel the Schovement.

@@YellowEyedGamer I have played pretty consistently since the start of chapter 3 and I can confidently say I have a pretty good grasp on the new movement. When season 2 started my brain wished for the unalivement when trying to wrap it around clambering plus the seemingly useless slide. It took around a month or 2 to get used to it, but it gets better, way better. The current movement I have is like a discount Titanfall 2 in a good way. It feels so free to effortlessly scale things now, I have no idea why people even play builds anymore.

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Well if I’m being honest, a game where everyone starts and ends with everyone having the same sort of capabilities is not a bad game. Like… think any strategy game ever. Think Chess. There’s no movement to execute, no skill to practice, so it all boils down to “what choices do I make and what choices do my foes make?” Who a “better player” is can boil down to not “who can do this cool technique better and invalidate the other” but “who had a better game plan”, making a game like Overwatch, IN THEORY, an RTS game that also happens to be an FPS. It’s just a different kind of game, and to Overwatch’s merit, it does help to differentiate itself from TF2 a little more, making it seem less like it’s trying to supplant it or copy it.

@@Somerandomjingleberry i dont think overwatch or anything like that are bad games, its just not what i and most people here arent looking for :3

@@Somerandomjingleberry wdym with chess? Especially in blitz, knowledge checks are key in giving you room to play better. If you know opening theory well (similar to someone wanting to pick off a far away medic in tf2) you spend less time on your moves at the beginning, giving you more time to spend on the mid and late game. For the tf2 equivalent, essentially the faster you can rocket jump and bomb the medic the higher chance of killing him or reacting to his surf without dying yourself, giving you more time to escape or secure the pick. Both chess knowledge checks (opening theory in blitz) and skill checks (executing a fast soldier bomb on the medic at the right time) open up the possibilities you can do after/during as you have more time to think and react So my argument is even with strategy games, no, not everyone is at the same capability. Think of Starcraft pros doing a million actions per second and the precision that takes, or league Moba skillshots at the right time.

​@@Somerandomjingleberry You're missing what they mean, they mean that a very good player _has the skill_ to absolutely wreck someone new, not that they've got different abilities or whatever

I feel the exact same way about breaking!

I really wanted to try and convey how movement in games feels to me, so I'm glad that you connected with it. Thanks for watching!

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RESPRiT is a man of dedication, I've been with my guy since the very start and he's killing it

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i've never really thought about outer wilds movement that much, but the difference between taking off for the first time not know which way is up, to being able to jump from planet to planet without the need for the ship is insane

@@batatat achieving relatively stable orbit on ash/ember twins was one of the most satisfying shmoovement challenges I've accomplished

how about you try gunZ's butterfly next?

It was definitely a big and scary decision for me - I think one of the biggest things is just seeing your income evaporate away (I allotted savings in advance, though). But I am feeling much more fulfilled than I have in a long time, which has been amazing. Best of luck with your future next steps!

@@RESPRiT 8:43 why does this sound so BAD

Which is why it bums me out that they're going for the opposite direction for Tekken 8. Encouraging offense isn't a bad thing, but nerfing backdashing to give less emphasis on those footsie scenarios kinda blows as a viewer.

@@spookiefri’m not at all a tekken head so forgive me if i’m wrong but i think it COULD be a good thing. having to commit to dashing backwards is very common in 2D fighters and means you have to commit more to defense. hopefully as tekken 8 releases and people really start to understand the game we can see that change work out for the better.

@@undercovertoni yes but movement is different fundamentally across fighting games, and even moreso around 2D and 3D. Expressive and strong movement has always been a staple for defensive play in Tekken, so taking it away without adding anything new defensively into the mix is not good imo. Also I might be wrong on this but I’m pretty sure Harada himself doesn’t like seeing pros just move back and forth midscreen and play to bait out a move, so that’s why they’re doing this.

They literally ruined it and made it functionally as easy as pharahs rocket boost. You just hold space and you glue to the wall no matter what.

That's because her boost is not a rocket jump. Just rocket jump.

He did show off some lucio movement at the end

@@lapis8339 did not realize, ty for pointing it out!

Bruh I wish I could rocket jump. But without the original I cannot do anything I swear

Her jump jet is not a rocket jump. You can still rocket jump.

When overwatch came out Genji had so much movement tech, but as it drew on they removed more and more of them until I lost interest in the game as a whole

@@Jeg1041 there's still a lot of movement for specific characters like doom, ball, lucio, etc.

the most important movement in overwatch is generally not the macro movement like rocket jumping, but more micro movements like strafe timings and working in crouches. Its incredibly difficult to hit someone that knows how to move their character properly, compared to people that come from source games that dont understand the potential of having near-zero movement acceleration

Thanks, mariomaster3000!

@@RESPRiT That's marioman98 to you

I was recently thinking about downloading N again after all these years. Truly great game

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haha weirdly a pretty big compliment

@@RESPRiT really enjoyed the video, keep it up!

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