Scientific EVIDENCE for Eucharistic Miracles? w/ Fr. Terry Donahue 

Here's a good summary ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-soCkftBBsBo.html. This guy is working with an Oscar award winning team to make a Eucharist miracle film!

@@vs15 . That is a great video, with great links to other documentaries/ expert testimonials.

Their were no cells the paper says staining failed and the blood showed clear signs of decay.

@@thegoblin957 . Not sure what you mean. Do you have a link?

@@jamesflynn4741 A channel called joy of the faith has a vidoe showing the paper, It says the blood failed two forensic test showed no blood cells when stained and had a reduced mineral contnet

The 'scientists' who make these claims are not impartial, they are Catholics who believe in this stuff...it's like asking a witch to evaluate spells..

@@nonsuperstitiouscatholic6327 The Church always makes sure to have non-Catholic scientists evaluate alleged miracles. If they somehow can only get a Catholic scientist to investigate it, they make sure to not tell said scientist where the sample came from and why it is significant.

@@DF_UniatePapist Greetings David..the sampling procedure was not conducted in accordance with accepted scientific procedures and practices to rule out tampering..so the results are invalid..

You can't tell that by looking..you would have to analyze it for the presence of stress hormones..and none of this was ever peer reviewed and published in a scientific paper so it must be regarded as nonsense...

@@nonsuperstitiouscatholic6327 Proof?

I’m glad I found your comment

Absolutely not true,evidence is what we lack, (for anything supernatural)

Though grace will suffice, iff they want it

John 20:29 blessed are those who have not seen and have believed

@@FrankRios2b you do realize that is the opposite of a sound epistemology. Am I justified in believing Islam is true based on insufficient evidence? I have not seen Allah yet I believe

I disagree, if there was evidence for God's existence there would be no atheists.

So you believe a superstitious segment of Catholicism because Matt says so?! Doesn't look like your Protestant church thought you sound doctrine!

@@Bullcutter Didn't say I believe it. Just that if I were to hear their side out, I'm not gonna go to a bunch of weird html sites with bogus info. This guy is trustworthy and doesn't lie. He may or may not be wrong, but he's trustworthy.

@@jimbojackson4045 I'm sorry about the misunderstanding and sympathise with you regarding finding trustworthy Catholic sources. I can recommend 'Catholic Answers' after coming across it recently. The important thing to look for is that it must be an official Catholic organisation, normally called 'Apostolate, not someone's personal opinion page or channel.

@@Bullcutter It's okay! Thank you! I like Catholic Answers.

@@jimbojackson4045 Excellent, thanks for communicating to clear up the issue. Good luck in your endeavours!

Yes please!

Yes!! This is such a great idea

Yes Please!

Yes that's very interesting

Yes!

So...why wasn't the scientist awarded the Nobel Prize for the biggest breakthrough in scientific history...

Yes wouldnt a confirmation of God in bread be worth at least winning then Nobel prize? I’m sure the Randj foundation would love to hand out 1M to the church

Revelation teaches antichrist will use miracles and wonders to deceive many.

@@Hypnotoad206 revelation also teaches God is a God of miracles and wonders.

@@sotem3608 yes but The Bible also teaches that miracles have particular seasons with reason. When prophets were absent, so was scripture. In the last days, miracles are highly likely to not be of God

Many have pointed out scientism is self defeating because it has no internal proof of itself.

Greetings Louisa, Science is 100% evidence based while philosophy is whatever you feel comfortable with...

Mostly true, but science itself is based off of several philosophical axioms that are scientifically unproven (or unprovable), for instance that we can even know anything about the cosmos. “Science” used to be called “natural philosophy.”

Wisdom 11:20 Or without any of these, your enemies could have been cut down by a single breath-pursued by your justice and crushed by a powerful breath. But you have set all things in right order by proportion: by measure, by number, and by weight.

the point here is that science seeks reproducible facts and philosophy is based on ideas. there is a philosophy of science but for the purposes of looking at things like eucharistic miracles, science is being asked to identify the nature of the materials under investigation. for me, I'm open to believe in the miracles, but I want to be assured of the 'chain of evidence...the origins of the wafers and 100% proof that the original wafer is what is being investigated. interesting!

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Qx7XLmi9cYI.html

Greetings Mexican, those who composed the NT were well aware of OT prophesy and maybe they engineered Jesus to fit..The question is, if it's true why don't the Jews buy it..?

@@nonsuperstitiouscatholic6327 The vast majority of the Jews converted to Christianity (mainly thanks to wittnesing the miracles). Roman historical (and others) records prove the existance of Jesus. The martyrdom of the apostles (and others) proves that they were not just "engineering" the whole thing. Would you allow others to torture and kill you just to create a made up religion?

@ I personally don't think Jesus had any say in the matter, He tipped the tables over in the temple and was crucified by the Romans for being a troublemaker..The Early Church made a drama out of it to infer that the Jews were complicit just to create a division between Christianity and Judaism and claim they rejected their prophesied Messiah, so they could make Him the new God of the Roman Empire to unite all the fragmented pagan religions under one belief system..

@@nonsuperstitiouscatholic6327 , Christ's fulfillment of the OT unfolds to this day past the obvious things, like The Holy Family fleeing and called from Egypt. For example, the "I am" sayings of Jesus and their order correspond directly with the Tent of Meeting in the OT. This is incredibly hard to fake considering the sayings were separated by weeks and months. Nevermind that there Bible itself doesn't seem to focus on it like the other fulfillments. It's a hidden gem, that the Divine Author set up for us to discover thousands of years later. Also, the fulfillments of the OT in the NT doesn't stop at Jesus. The Blessed Virgin Mary is part of it as well. She is the new Eve, the Lady who's foot smashes Satan's head, and she is the New Ark of the Covenant. These fulfillment gems too took hundreds of years for Christian theologians to uncover. Tell me what other Book this heavily studied still has the power to surprise us?

Jesus was a devout Jew..why would he want to be the god of pagans..? Paganism was the epitome of everything Jews despised..

Oh, they discussed this miracle in here. That’s great!

Just curious, when you say you are a Protestant, is there something holding you back or something you personally protest which may be lack of understanding or not explained correctly. I have found learning my faith best by selecting people that help me gain a better understanding and carefully selecting books, readings, etc. I wish we could bridge our faiths.

This was dissected on an atheist channel recently and they demonstrated how absurd it is.

@@frankwhelan1715 not at all

Why stay in Protest-antism?

Winona? I go there! You should watch the recent speech by Kristen Hawkins on the Students For Life channel. It was at Winona.

Wow.

This would be great! Bring in a priest/scientist from Foundations Restored

That would be cool. The Catholic Churches' support of evolution, even from some of its most traditionalist elements, always seemed odd to me, especially when they claim to be the strongest force against modernism.

Please no. Giving a platform to the anti-evolutionist, anti-science types will only harm Catholic evangelism

Why is there so much fear of discussing this topic. I notice that there is an irrational fear from evolutionists of discussing this in detail. They sound exactly like the atheists... Shaming people for even discussing legitimate dissenting scientific views. Fear mongering isn't an intelligent response. It's an emotional one. Grow up and show up to a debate, or sit down and let the adults talk.

@Daniel Blais I encourage you to examine the scientific evidence interpreted from a critical perspective which isn't based on credulity or an "a priori" commitment to naturalism and uniformitarianism. www.kolbecenter.org/ AND creation.com/ are good sites to reference. Between these sites, there are more than ten thousand articles published by highly qualified scientists who are former evolutionists - most of whom used to be non Christians and became creationists BECAUSE of the science (not in denial of it as most ignorant skeptics assume). It covers every major scientific discipline you can imagine. I agree whole-heartedly that Christians don't have to check their brains at the door to have a deep, committed faith. Pitting faith against science is a mistake - one I believe you may be unintentionally making. A thinking Christian doesn't have to choose between faith or science. You can have them both. Just don't forget - "evolution" (macro evolution) isn't science. It's philosophy wearing a lab coat and hiding behind the dignity of solid, operational science (micro evolution). I hope I'm not speaking over your head. I wish you well.

Not the same at all ,you have to examine these claims and none are proved.Many are obvious fakes.

If there was evidence for any of this, faith wouldn't be needed to believe it. I don't need faith to accept the existence of the sun and moon.

@@corbinsmith50 FAITH IS BASED ON EVIDENCE ' Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God .' Isaiah 46 :46. 9 ,10. for I am God ,and there is none like me. 10 . DECLARING THE END FROM THE BEGINING ,AND FROM ANCIENT TIMES THE THINGS THAT ARE NOT DONE .The prophets told the people what the results of their sins would be ,then when it happened they knew it was God speaking . As God said only He knows the end before it happens .That is why we believe Jesus was the MESSIAH because He said where he would be born .Micah 5:2 His death Isaiah 53.etc. If your faith is not based on God's revealed Word but on nothing based feelings ,you are no different than a Mormon who believes in a non-existent people who once lived in America .Why because he was told it .

@@wendymitchell8245 faith is the excuse people use when there is insufficient evidence to warrant belief on its own, would you agree with that?

@@creatinechris In the case of some people, but not Biblical faith which is based on knowledge and evidence .

I think there is some good evidence Luther was possessed.

How silly, it has to, at some point in the likes process reach that number. Or are you joking?

@@myrddingwynedd2751 No, I'm being serious. On two occasions of watching Matt's videos the like counter reached "666" so I clicked like to fix it (and I genuinely do like his videos)

@@matthewcunningham5382 My friend, you shouldn`t worry about that number, and it is mere coincidence. Please research the Preterist view of bible prophecy and rest your fears aside. 666 was Caesar Nero.

@@matthewcunningham5382 It`s all in the past.

@@myrddingwynedd2751 I'm not too concerned about it, it was mostly just light hearted fun. I did want to like his videos and probably having a number that doesn't symbolize separation from God or a persecutor of God's people would be better, that's all, lol

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thanks David

The church is the greatest skeptic, sometimes too skeptical for reasons unknown, in terms of reported apparitions and miracles, it has to be for false miracles destroy real faith.

Thanks

Once you start researching Eucharistic Miracles you get so deep into a hole you dig to the other side and hit daylight. It absolutely affirmed for me that Jesus is who He said He is and He is still very much alive and very much God. We exist in occupied territory while alive, unless something goes down.

hmmm I don't get that from him at all... He is affable like Tom Papa in a way, but more scientific than probably any youtube armchair commentary here....

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-soCkftBBsBo.html this channel interviewed the doctors themselves

I'm afraid Sam Harris doesn't want to know the truth. We should pray for him.

@@AlejandroGarcia-ek3uy I guess you're probably right. He was asked about his opinion on Eucharistic Miracles during the Q & A session of a debate with WL Craig. And his reply was along the lines of "all religions claim to have some miracles". I guess praying for him is a very good idea though. 👍

@@markoh6641 Sam Harris is a very conceited guy. The only remedy is prayer. He doesn't understand the difference of claiming to be a miracle and a scientifically proven miracle. Some people choose to be blind. Must be some kind of fear of having to change outlooks and way of life. Yes, let's pray for him!

I kept thinking about that same debate question! Pray for him indeed.

@@michaelt5030 I will 😉

But as he explained, these miracles are for out benefit. Some of us can use a boost of grace now and then! 🌻

The report was a hoax. The miracle isn’t a hoax. It was tested in 1971 or so.

Which ones have you looked into?

An episode on Marian apparitions would be amazing and very time! Ave María

@@lj5033 Timothy gordon is covering marian apparitins this month. Check them out.

Ask the Blessed Mother to reveal herself to you as a proof of her apparitions in a dream or in whatever way. It depends on how you ask it. Humble yourself before her and ask her to help you believe in her apparitions. They’re so many.

I simply LOVE the Eucharistic hymns by St Thomas Aquinas.

I suppose the rest would still be Christ, but only part was revealed to the senses

Be Catholic..... Jesus did say to Peter " You are the rock; on this rock I will build my church ( entrusting to carry on all that the son of God came to earth for) until a better dude named Martin Luther comes along who will get it right."

There are NO Eucharistic miracles..If a scientist produced evidence that proved that the supernatural was real, he would immediately be awarded the Nobel Prize...

@@nonsuperstitiouscatholic6327 The world hates the light that’s why

These so called miracles bring people to RCC religion not the true gospel which clearly states communion is symbolic

@@charnelallan7159 Could you please present your case for communion being purely symbolic?

@@HenryTCoxwell Jesus in John 6 says how we must eat his flesh and drink his blood, yet in the same passage, Jesus had neither bread or wine to illustrate… because he was inside a synagogue teaching, not at a dinner table. later on in John 13, John completely skips over the institution of the Lord’s Supper. How could Jesus have held the apostles and disciples accountable for understanding the Eucharist when the Lord’s Supper was not even established? there is no connection between the feeding of the 5,000 and the last supper. The fact alone that Jesus was alive and partook of the last supper along with the apostles is another sign. Also, the allegory in John 6 began in verse 35. “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst.”… coming and believing, hunger and thirst. That’s the analogy. Eating is what sustains life, and no one else can eat for you. Just like no one else can believe in Christ for you. Don’t focus on the bread that perishes (literal), but focus on the bread of life that came down from heaven (symbolic). Did Jesus come down from heaven as a loaf of bread? After all, he’s being literal in this passage. There is a HUGE contrast between the beginning and the 2nd half of John 6. In fact, the bread Jesus referred to as the “bread of life” was referencing to the manna which was leavened bread. During the last supper, Jesus Add reference to the “bread of affliction” by use of his body, which was matzoh, or unleavened bread. Meaning John 6 describes being filled with the life of Christ, and the last supper scenario describes Christ’s life being poured out. The last supper primarily discusses the contractual binding of the new covenant, while John 6 discusses the desire to walk with Christ and have faith in him. Two different scenarios with two different implications. Jesus only said This “is” my body.. if it “is” his body, at what point was it changed? The word “is” is a continuous and non-changing adverb

It looks like it was a conflated claim.

if it is about the guy who also claimed to have found the ark of the covenant, i’m pretty sure that he is a fraud😂

That's the example he gave that was unfortunately falsified evidence. He recommended we not use it.

@@colmwhateveryoulike3240 Linoli's 1971 report _is_ authentic and is published in Quaderni Sclavo... But the 1973 WHO investigation with 500 examinations is definitely _not_ authentic, based on Dr. Serafini's firsthand evaluation (as I mentioned in the video).

@@Thanar2 Yes sorry I wasn't clear enough, that's what I meant. Thanks for clarifying.

@@colmwhateveryoulike3240 Sure, no problem.

The higher council of WHO wasn't this proved to be a false article. There wasn't a higher council.

A conspiracy high up in the Catholic Church that the skeptic and atheist scientists who studied them did not see fit to debunk. 👌

But there are other connections to actual cardiac tissue to explain it’s meaning in the miracle. Blood rushes thru the heart. It is the center of out circulatory system. Jesus offered his Body and Blood for the forgiveness of sins. Also the phenomenon that this muscle was under stress is very revealing. Jesus suffered both physically and emotionally for our sins. No doubt about that.

According to my dad all of the modern-day ones were from Novus Ordo masses. My dad acknowledges this despite the fact that he has started trying to go to the TLM as much as possible. Though you might be able to find out for yourself by looking up the churches these miracles happened at.

The Novus Ordo Clown Mass....

@@spidernymph8964 I go to TLM, but when my husband was dying, a female Eucharistic minister came to deliver Communion to him. I did wonder whether it would be a valid host.. we experienced what seemed to be a little supernatural incident. .. I was at the hospice for * days and this was the ONLY time this happened... We were praying very deeply - like when You can really feel the connection - The nano-second that she touched the host to his forehead, the light right above his head made a loud click sound and the light went out. Int remained out the entire time we were praying while the host was against this forehead. Then the nano-second that she lifted the host from his head, the light made an other loud click and the light went back on. She paused and looked up at the light. we were in such deep prayer that neither of us wanted to wreck the moment and talk about the obvious, but there was no doubt with either of us that it was the eucharist!

@@finallythere100 Wow, what an amazing witness! God bless you and may the eternal light shine upon your husband.

Why not? Does gods miracles only fit within naturalistic occurrences? Seems like it

Do you mean that YOU will refuse to acknowledge the evidence of your sight in regard to something you don't want to believe? Rather pseudoscientific.

I would celebrate Eucharistic miracles as a sign of God's mercy in bringing His Church back to belief

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You detest all miracles because your faith is impeccable and so what about St. Thomas and all others without your perfect faith? That doesn't seem charitable. Fortunately Our Lord is charitable, even to those for whom visible miracles are meaningful.

Doubt is not a sin.

Watch the whole thing when you have time. Stopping at 20 minutes is like stopping at 1 Chronicles when reading the Bible.

@@killianmiller6107 I'm just getting the sense that I'm misunderstanding the title. I'm not super interested in spending an hour to confirm that.

typical youtube cynicism .... spends little time or claim have no time.... ( he probably isn't Christian at all I am guessing) but has time to put his negative belief on the content without watching the whole video...

@@lukegaier9490 Why even bother making this stupid comment then?

@Luke Gaier 29:00 - The Science