II didn't catch your full outro, but 'm surprised you didn't realize the cleverness of the film. This movie has one of the greatest twists. That reveal when he wakes up at the end was nuts when it came out. I feel you guys didn't appreciate that. Also the rare instance that the bad guy wins after fooling everyone which was awesome. I'm not sure what plot hole you're referring to. Everything is explained. Also this is more of a psychological horror compared to the sequels. Not really that bloody. It actually doesn't rely on gore which is the misconception about the movie thanks to the sequels. Everyone is entitled to an opinion of course, but I feel you either missed or misinterpeted a few things to not fully appreciate that this is actually a really clever film.
Yeah you defo didn't catch the outro.. as after Colin shared his thoughts, I shared mine and touched on a lot of the things you said. This isn't Colins preferred genre in fact probably his least liked but he gave it a go. I loved the movie though :) Lorna
@@weebitreacts yeah this was directed towards Colin. I saw you said you liked it at the beginning of the outro but failed to watch it all. That's my bad.
All good! Yeah he really is not into these types of movies at all so I'm just happy he agreed to watch it. He is definitely a more cynical person for sure lol Thanks so much for watching. We appreciate it 🙏
Colin is speaking as if he is better director or writer. that ending has to be 1 of the greats. i can understand, that not eveyone likes each movie, but to say things like it was convenient and all for this movie plot, or there was holes in it is wrong. I liked the part where he atleast explained few details what he didnt like but some of them i felt little too amateur, police not catching the guy was part of the movie. if every police guy catch the villian, i dont think there will be 2 hour horror movie in general. then there will be only movies with ghosts. but not to blame your overall channel and reactions as they are generally great. i just got little upset with things colins said. He could just say he didnt like the movie and then explain what new idea he thinks would be correct just as probably brainstorming topic.
One of the best franchises in cinema. It really opened a new genre. P.S.: As for the age gap, it's just a number. Many people aren't that lucky to have found their soulmate (me included) so consider yourselves blessed to have one another :). Good people to trust and love are hard to find. Cheers.
In my teens, 20's & 30's, much of the cinematic fare I consumed was of this genre. Now in my late 50's, I don't have the belly for it at all. 👍 hit. Good luck, Lorna! So glad you have Colin there for support 🪨
#TeamLorna This is, in my opinion, the best in the series. The first few are decent, but this one focuses more on the mystery, intrigue, and detective work. The rest of the series, once the secret's out, devolves into an excuse to be gory and horrific. There is a story plot, and some interesting moments, but.. eehh.. John Kramer is a great villain though.
Because people trust doctors. Doctors are even-keeled, good under pressure, and they're going to tell you the truth - they do it everyday when they deliver bad news. Telling him he was a doctor was a way to calm him down.
I assume he said that because doctors are typically considered trust worthy/an authority figure. Its like saying “i wouldnt do this, i help people not hurt them”
Fyi 1 thru 7 are one storyline with facts revealed in 7 that lead back to 1. 8 and 9 ate their own thing not very good to me. But the new SAW X is between 1 and 2 but need part 4 to understand the end credit scene in X the only one that has one. None of the others have an end credit scene but it is important to the story. I hope you watch at least 1 thru 7 and Saw X
In the sequel, and all the sequels that follow, you will see that Jigsaw is actually onto something here, that he makes a good argument for his extracurricular activities. I always say, most of the "victims" are the actual villains in these films, and Jigsaw is somewhere between vigilante and antihero. You could also say he's a life coach. There's only a few participants that are actual victims, don't deserve it.
do you really believe that? sure, his retributive justice approach is appealing at first, but you have to concede a lot of things to pretend that he's a vigilante. you have to concede that a) all his victims were bad people, and b) all his victims deserved what happened to them. the first one is highly debatable. jeff denlon, a man who simply grieved the loss of his child (when john himself reacted to grief by putting people in traps for faulty bikes they sold to HIS family members)? bobby dagen's wife? allie and diana, even? the victims in the shotgun carousel trap were literally just random people who had JOBS. oh, and i forgot about the man in the first film who did nothing but *checks notes* be mentally ill. and those are just the most obviously innocent people, but i would argue that calling addicts and prostitutes "villains" doesn't sit well either. plus, for even the traps involving those who ARE bad people, it's really hard to say that they deserved what happened to them. should we put all unfaithful partners to the death? should everyone who's ever lied about anything be subject to a gruesome amount of torture? that isn't how our legal system works, and for good reason. the punishment doesn't fit the crime. anyone who thinks jigsaw is even remotely in the right here has a disturbing desire to inflict punishment upon others.
not even to mention that it's pretty clear john doesn't believe his own moral code. sure, he probably does on a surface level, but he's a psychopath who likes hurting people. he's hiding behind a pretend morality so that he can kill people. he makes so many exceptions for innocents throughout the films! and like i mentioned, i think one of the most obvious examples is his trap for the guy who "killed" his nephew. he reacted in a more aggressive way than jeff, the man he actually punished for mourning. enjoy the movies for what they are, which is fun, pretty bad gory flicks. but trying to claim that john is right, or was ever right, completely misses the point of the movies.
l remember watching Saw first time few months ago quite good it is bit brutal have seen second one something like the first rest of saw films not seen them yet
Oh my goodness, I was a bit worried for Lorna a couple of times... this is a tough watch! Good on ye for gettin through it 👍 So glad I found your channel, you're both clocking up the subscribers at a rapid rate 👏 quick thought, you mentioned suggestions, if you haven't already seen 28 Days Later that might be an interesting one!
I stand with Lorna (soz Colin), Saw was fantastic and the plot twist at the end was superb. I remember being absolutely blown away by it the first time I watched it. I also forgot how brutal the first one is 😅 My SIL loves all the movies but I've only seen to 3 and haven't had any interest to see the rest. Saw 2 is definitely my favourite, recommend you guys watch that one!
There's a really dumb "theory" suggesting Jigsaw and Kevin from Home Alone are the same person. It doesn't really make sense if you compare the time lines.
So he must be 33 if he was 14 when it came out... and if she's worried about people knowing how much older than him she is... she must be a cougar 😉 😉 😉 😂😂😂 I jest, sweetheart
HAHA. Too funny! Your reaction was way better than the movie. HA. It’s a scary 1st watch but definitely has major plot holes if you think of it too much.
Hi Colin & Lorna!😊 This is one of the least gruesome Saw films, so I don't know how you guys would react to the sequels. There are definitely some logic holes in this one, which they do improve upon in the films that follow. Probably Colin wouldn't care for them. I did eventually watch the films out of curiosity, but I would definitely not binge them. Colin was close, his name was "Zep". Nice reactions to your first Saw film!!!!🎬👏👏👏👏
Sorry Lorna, after watching your reaction (and therefor re-watching it) I have to admit, I'm more team Colin. I only watched the movie back when it came out, and it now seems I remembered it better than it actually was. I remembered the plot was a little too "constructed" for me even back than, but I forgot how much questionable plot-twists and -holes they threw in. While trying to tell a smart plot, they somehow outsmarted themself. "Seven" would be a movie where it's "done right". I still think the basic setup is great, put two people in a room, with steaks that high. With good acting and a good script that premise alone could have carried a movie by itself. Just stay in that room, forget about all the overhead, just focus on the psychology of those two characters in that situation. I still give a like ofc, but personally I don't need you to continue with that franchise.
Yeah I'm with you too, I felt like they could have really taken it to another level but I still was so shocked that the guy stood up at the end... mind blown. I think I would need to twist Colin's arm to watch another one 😂😂
@@weebitreacts Hahaha, explain to him it's his "duty" as a reactor to also watch movies you probably don't like. Or else just show him who's the boss. 😜
@@weebitreacts Torture-porn is more like it. Incredibly bleak, grim, depressing, imo. It was the one that put me off extreme, graphic violence permanently. Closest I've ever felt to watching a snuff-film. And it could be happening for real, probably is somewhere. Please be careful. Might be traumatizing 😟
@@louismarzullo1190 I don't know what he was going for, but he strikes me as a fundamentally puerile filmmaker, there's no real weight to the characters in his movies and the violence is graphic but flippant
