Scream for Dummies pt. 4 | Scream 4 (2011) Deep Dive + Plot Breakdown 

Oh my lord the hell I have been through to get this video up. I'm so sorry to anyone who caught the earlier versions that accidentally went live, I have my shit together now I promise lol

FINALLY another person who gets it! It seems like I'm stuck hearing everyone constantly dump on Scream 4 all the time, and i always have trouble putting together the words to describe how incredible and ahead of its time Scream 4 was. The writing and execution of this chapter in the Scream franchise is actually quite masterful and a bit poetic. After the original, it'll always be the best of the franchise. Thanks for putting together those words for me, I'll point people here whenever I catch someone trying to talk smack about Scream 4 😂

Jill is still the only killer that was crazy enough to kill her own parent. She’s too Queeny for that.

Scream 1 and 4 are my two favorite Scream movies to me it’s peak meta and the reveals are perfection 🙌🏼

When I first saw Scream 4 back in 2011, I thought Jill’s motive was crazy but smart well here we are today living in her world which is one of the many reasons why she’s still my favorite Ghostface killer. Another reason why I love her is because she manipulated Charlie in doing all of her dirty work and only killed the ppl she was framing as the killers (Trevor and Charlie) to mimic Sidney during the original Woodsboro murders

I remember leaving the theater on opening night with the biggest, stupid smile on my face, then turned to my friends, a relatively large group for this one, and saw that like... everybody hated it. Besides me. This is one of the best in a franchise that legitimately has no BAD movies. Crazy.

I watch these videos religiously. I literally check every single day for many videos, but mainly for pt 4 and 5. My partner always hears me watch videos mainly hosted by guys so really takes no notice. That is until I stumbled across The Haunted Hippe, naturally she asked, " who are you watching?". I decided to introduce her to Scream for dummies pt 1-3 the day before seeing Scream. She now has a level of pure appreciation for horror and this channel. Got yourself a new fan Kylie. Love your content!!

I love our minds because when you were talking about Emma Roberts and her biggest acting credit I said "Aquamarine" on the same beat as you LMAO

As someone who grew up with the Scream movies in their childhood, 4 was the first one I got to see in the theatre. And living through that decade between 3 & 4, seeing Scream 4 on opening night was a delightful and surprising experience. The reveal of Jill blew my f'ing mind, and the layers of meta and social commentary was absolutely genius.

38:25 based on the conversation Kirby was having with Jill earlier in the film, I do believe Kirby has a thing for Charlie. Plus they already share a common interest in horror movies, she's a supporter of his Cinemaclub, she shows up to the Stabathon, compliments him on the party, makes the first move, and risks her safety to save Charlie even when Sidney said to not let him in if you can't trust him. I'm pretty sure she had at least something for him, I wouldn't say it was just the alcohol.

Scream 4 is the perfect sequel to Scream, I love everything about it! ❤ I feel the first one and this one are miles ahead of the others (although I do love them all) but the social commentary, meta horror film commentary, loveable characters, amazing and believable killer reveals, gory kills - its just all top notch with these two.

Scream 4 is the best sequel so far and I don't think society is ready to accept that yet

I think that it was Wes Craven’s choice for the way Scream 4 looks. Something about how early 2000s movies had a similar look or something. I wish I remember where I read that.

Scream 4 is not my favorite, but Jill is probably my favorite Ghostface. I love that the girl who is set up as the new Sidney is really the mastermind and almost gets away with it. I really wish the original idea for 5 panned out.

you're working crazy hard on these videos and we appreciate it so much 🥳 love this series

When u started Crying that got me too. We love you Wes

Jill as Ghostface was a huge shock. She is my 2nd favorite Ghostface.

Scream 4 is one of my favorite sequels. I thought the series was going to be put to rest after Scream 3, which will be released on 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray on October 3rd. But since Scream 4 came to fruition, my buddy and I went to the movies to see it and we LOVED it. Especially the epic 2v1 fight (Sidney and Gale vs. Jill). We couldn't believe that Jill (Emma Roberts from Nickelodeon's "Unfabulous") was one of the two Ghostface killers, with the other being Charlie Walker (Rory Culkin). My favorite quotes in the movie are: "Who are you? Michael Freaking Myers?" "Don't FOOL with the originals!" I hope this film gets a 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray sometime next year.

Finally! I’ve been waiting for this one! Scre4m for ever! 🖤

I agree Scream 4 was definitely ahead of its time and Jill was the most sadistic killer and her motive despite what others say was the most chilling especially for the time. Obviously Billy and Stu are the most iconic but Jill is right there with them IMO

You made me love Scream 4 when it was at my bottom of the list. You rock!!!!!

my managers at the restaurant i work at speak to me like trash, so i love the fact that nico was also shit talking back just like i do

When I’d got the chance to watch scream 4 in 2011 it was such an exhilarating ride of knowing Jill motivations/ true intentions because she’s an fan of the original scream films. we ultimately get sucked into her world finding out she only wanted to kill people in order to frame the victims Trevor, Charlie & only to behest of mimicking Sidney in the process. Sidney only to have the purpose state of clarity been going through it all from the Woodsboro murders and her past Tryna bury it all behind her. Dewey & Gale relationship was hitting a rocky road weren’t always on the same page. Just seems they were going in different directions. Kirby as one of the new cast added another sassy, humorous, charismatic charm to Scream 4. This has been a fun series to learn about the making of the Scream films Kylie.

9:21 another casting choice was that Selena Gomez was apparently supposed to play Jill but didn’t end up taking it as she was still with Disney and seeing her in blood on screen was not appropriate under Disney Channel’s rule book. This is even why people theorised Selena would be in Scream 5. The cast even tricked us by all following Selena then unfollowing her to cause some theories😂 Courtney Cox even commented under a Selena insta post about Sel’s cooking show saying something along the lines of being excited to meet Selena. So Idk I mean Selena is said to act in an upcoming horror about an influencer and she is slaying it on Only Murders so it’s not like she isn’t familiar with horror or a gorier role. So having her in scream 7 could be exciting I mean the Internet would go wild.

This is by far the most thorough video of Scream 4 on youtube. Very informative! Thank you for the deep dive! Also, to answer your question at 36:53 EMT's, coroners, the press, teachers, doctors, and priests to name a few. And yes! Wes Craven based the stab to the head kill on a real incident. The man swung his arms in front of himself before he collapsed from his injury.

No "Red Right Hand" but this movie has some great songs, "Something to Die For" and "Bad Karma" are sick.

Sorry you had issues uploading this video Kylie I was notified it went live yesterday but the link definitely didn't work haha Anyway, this video was so worth that wait. I think it's your best Scream for dummies so far. And I'm glad you left the crying scene in. That was so touching! Vulnerability is strength :) The only scene that really got under my skin in Scream 4 in a bad way was when Jill snuck out of her room after her bloody tandrum scene I know the movie is fake obviously but it bugged me because I tried to sneak out of my hospital room as a teen (when I got diagnosed with diabetes) and nurse Daisy stopped me! There are always nurses on duty which makes exploring a hospital quite difficult believe me! Great movie though overall haha As far as occuptions in horror goes there are so many doctors in horror of all types! The Harbinger is pretty neat. Not great but a solid Nightmare on Elm Street dream type horror. Thanks for for talking about this movie Kylie! Ok if comment sucks it's because my longer version just got deleted because my internet got stupid for a second and this is the best I can do to repair it! This better post now! Here goes!

Scream 4 reinvigorated the franchise for me, personally. Thanks Wes!

Agghhhh we love to see this love for scream 4 . The film with my favourite lines . This movie is the whole combo . FUN FACT : Emma roberts insisted to add roberts to Jill since she identified with the character hmmm

I'm new to the channel and I have been really enjoying these scream deep dives. I am not the hugest fan of this one, but there are things i do like about it. Someone has put all the deleted scenes back in the film and I found it a musch better version that what we got.

I don't think that Jill ever cared about Treavor, but instead what he did to her took a major hit to her ego. Because girl had an EGO. I think it sums it up in her line before she shoots him for the first time "I'm not the girl you cheat on!".

I just saw Scream 5 because my cell provider gave me a free year of Paramount+. On my way to see 6 tonight. Thanks for helping catch me up/refresh me on the early ones.

I don’t know why but I find it funny that when talking about the opening scenes you say Lucy Hale and then call Shenae Grimes the other one. In 2011 when I saw Scream 4 I knew Shenae as the star of the 90210 reboot which at the time was a huge deal to people who grew up with the original like me and I had no idea who Lucy Hale was.

Adam Brody was gonna be a ghostface according to some trivia 👍🐾💜

I absolutely love scream 4 for many, many reasons. The main reason being: it was the first scream movie I saw in theaters and the last one directed by the lovely Wes Craven. Just found out about your channel and I'm completely obessed with your reviews and deep dives on the scream franchise. congratulations for your great work!

I don’t know why but I always took Dewey trying to shut Gale down for this investigation to save her. She does get attacked for trying to solve this case for her troubles. I think one more line added for Dewey pertaining to this would’ve really sold this. I’ve always been Dewey for life though

Hey hey HEY! I specifically checked the box that said “Totally Emotionless Hippie” when I first signed up for my cult membership!

I really LOVE these in depth dives into the Scream movies and I really hope you'll make more!!!!!!!

I love this movie. Really gives the first one a run for its money imo

I just found all of your videos today. Absolutely love scream movies specially part one it’s my favorite horror movie and it was also filmed in my hometown of Santa Rosa California. And I’m absolutely loving your content. Watched all of the dummy for scream videos. One thing say now, Hayden. Contract said she would not die in the movie. it’s in the commentary in part four

Love this deep dive❤️I've never really understood what happened regarding Scre4m success 🤔I mean just because the ANOES remake and others were bombs at the box office, it doesn't really explain why people didn't go/enjoy this movie. I've thought it maybe had something to do with promotion and marketing along with its release date (April) but then again, Scream 5 and 6 were released in January'22 and March'23 so I really don't get it. It's my favorite of the series and I'm glad it's now found its audience 👍❤️

Hayden recently said in an interview that the cast of Scream 4 has a group chat that they all still talk in all these years later. It made me so happy to hear.

50 mins about one of the best slashers ever made ? YES SIR . Coming back in 50 💅🏼

Just stumbled upon your page and am pretty excited to binge watch these scream videos! Much love from Vegas!

Honestly, the label should of let them use Red right hand. In a sense, it's like the scream theme song. Most certainly the movies have helped sell some Nick Cave album's. Ps. Nick cave and the bad seeds' kick all night long Pps Id love to see original cut of 'Soul to take'

You crying over Wes Craven is on of my favorite Haunted Hippie moments ever. I never met him, but he was my heart, my favorite director💔🥲

Ughhhh you hit the nail on the head talking about toxic bosses. I work at Walmart and I’ve been triggered so much lately. I’ve been doing call offs lately it’s that much. Guess im just sensitive but it its hell

I didn’t expect when I threw on my fave bg playlist that I would finally process that caffeine causes me anxiety. Joining this cult has paid off in the weirdest ways smh Btw, you gotta get those chewy antacids instead of the chalky ones.

Loved your thoughts on this, refreshing

I’m stoked to watch this one! Ill share this link a bunch to try and help out the algorithms, I’m in LOVE with Scream 6 by the way hahaha

Sorry I’m commentary-ing your commentary (I feel it fits the franchise though so forgive me) but! Something the Petty Pumpkins talked about during their reaction of this was the super subtle way Jill actually films Olivia’s murder from her angle on her phone through the window. Such a great detail.

Second favorite of the series. And evidently the forehead stabbing and still being conscious came from something Wes saw in a documentary

Scream 4 was my first Scream in theaters, my friend and I watched it three times, twice in the same day. We’ve been bonded since and 4 still is my favorite.

Amazing Scream 4 review!!! I'm a huge fan of the franchise!

Can’t wait for your Scream VI review!

As an aspiring immortal forest witch, I'm quite happy to join the coven.

Just pausing the video to react to "Jill doesb't care about Trevor, she's a sociopath", I've always interpreted it as she got her ego bruised, how dare he cheat on her while she is this incredible young woman! You see what I mean, for me she really does not care about Trevor, he is a mean to an end (like Charlie), but how dare he treat her poorly? you know

so i scrolled through the comments to make sure no one had brought it up yet so here i am to bringing it up lol i saw somewhere that the glossy look of the movie was a stylistic choice by wes craven. he said all the remakes all looked and felt super glossy and cleaned up. so he did that for the usual meta reasoning lol after reading i really like this choice

Your spider in the back has an endoskeleton

Just finished and great video. So well researched. I agree with you that this movie is amazing. It’s my favorite sequel and imo the only one to come close to matching the og. This one is also special to me because I was the same age as these characters when the movie came out. Also Jill is my favorite Ghostface. I love that she put in so much work and was so committed.

"My name isn't Jesus!!"🤣 This was the deep dive analysis I didn't know I needed!!! Awesome video and thank you for my new channel!!👏🤘

Wes plan was originally to do a new trilogy and that Jill survives and sidney doesn’t remember anything and as a audience member we see Jill go to college and still be ghostface but a new ghostface comes out and its said wes wanted a ghostface against ghostface kinda competition to see who’s better and they of course have different motives. But he really didn’t say much after that

I’ve never seen a creator on here say they enjoyed the opening of Scream 4. It’s refreshing. Lol. I personally enjoyed it and never really understood the hate. This is my favorite sequel out of the franchise. Just spitballing, but I wonder if another reason for it not being profitable was the lack of promotion? Or from what I remember anyway. I think I saw one preview for it, and that was on a DVD after it was already out of theaters.

It was the first Scream film I was able to watch in theaters and I got to watch it not once, but 4 times in theaters

The stab through the head is based on a true story.

oooh, really hope to see a scream tv show analysis

Kylie, yet another great video. Scream 4 is one of my favorites in the franchise. What separates the Scream franchise from other horror franchises like Friday the 13th, Halloween etc. is the care that goes into it. They care about making good movies. And the first one I'd say is a great film. (Oh, an addendum: John Carpenter cared about making a good movie in the original Halloween. Then the sole interest w/ 5, 6, 7 etc. was merely money. That's the downside of capitalism: the dollar supersedes care, creativity, smartness etc.)

Are you going to cover the three seasons of TV in these retrospectives?

I love ❤️ scream 1,2,3,4,5,6✨💘💋🎥😎🦋👼🏻👼🏿🍿✨

I feel like with every new Scream, fans turn on the one that came before. When 4 came out, I remember everyone loving it. But then 5 came out, and people sh** all over 4; they all just loved 5. And now that's 6 out, everyone loves 6 and hates 5. 😆 This one has lived in my top 3 since it came out. Kirby was excellent, but this one probably has my favorite Ghostface. Jill was iconic

Oh yeah also the exposure of the movie was so weird because wes smeared vaseline on the lens because he said some of the remakes at the time looked like that

Great video Kylie and also here a fun fact since you didn’t know Selena was suppose to be in scream 5 here something you didn’t know did you know that Ross Lynch was supposed to be in scream 5 but those rumors weren’t true

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New subscriber here! Terrific video! 🎉 Just my 2 cents but I don’t think Jill necessarily cared that her ex cheated on her but I think it was more of an ego thing. She said before she kills him “I’m not the girl you cheat on” like she’s more insulted at the audacity of him cheating rather than she actually missed him. He bruised her ego and mind you she’s a closeted egomaniacal killer searching for notoriety/fame.

a lil fact: if i remember it right, i read somewhere that the stabbing of the head kill was inspired by a real-life event where a person had a head injury and paced around the hospital before he died on the hospital floor. soooo yea, somehow it can happen lol. also, YES!! I F*CKING LOVE SCREAM 4!! This movie needs way more appreciation!!

Although the cinematography was ugly, the killer and motive stands the test of time.

When you finished this series can you do a similar one on the Evil Dead franchise? Or any franchise for that matter.

Just found your channel great content

This is my 2nd fav Scream movie behind the first! I agree that the story has aged incredibly well. It's more relevant now than it was in 2011.

I gotta watch this after the hell you’ve went through getting it up haha glad it’s here!

As an ND Person who compulsively says the last syllable of words when theyre cut off, that intro was PHYSICALLY PAINFUL *stares vacantly, eye twitching* ..RED! RIGHT! HAND!… Ahh, much better. Anyway,,.. your video is awesome, every comment is gonna say that, you know that, and it’s dumb and useless for me to say the same …but I have a somewhat unique thing to add. Wes was beloved, we know this. But did you know he was beloved by even the Little Folk on set? Down to the PAs! So..storytime..My dad (and Uncles and….so forth, not tryina dox myself) was a Teamster. As it turns out… Other Teamsters would talk about what a great guy Wes was on sets that werent even his. Unprompted, on whole other projects! Dad never got to work with him but told me about this because i’m so into Wes Craven’s work, but also as a life lesson i think. If youre in the position to do so, be like Wes Craven. The more people do that, the more we raise the bar. To sum up…..Your (quasi) tears are warranted. Wes is a presence sorely missed in the industry regardless of the quality of some of his films. His sets were super egalitarian. He’d talk to the guys in the credits nobody knows, like Gaffers and such. Just because he was a nice man, and the fame never got to his head. My uncle who actually worked with Wes more than once full-on Ugly Cried when he heard Wes had died… When i was a kid, I saw that man put a nail through his hand with a nailgun and just say “poop” (cleaned to be pg). Pulled out the nail and then got back to work helping build a deck in our backyard. An actual Tough guy, and it broke his heart when heaven reclaimed an angel, or whatever. Anyway .. your video is Good, but you knew that already (i hope! :) ). Looking forward to next week. ….and to anyone still reading my nonsense, go see Scream 6! (Ps, being in a Scream movie isnt a Normal White Boy Thing…I was 20 for a whole year ;) )

I was 14 when Scream 4 came out, wish you could've seen the light in my eyes. I watched the first one in the age of 6 (yeah tons of trauma) and I craved for more (I asked for another movie not trauma but I got both). 12 years of manifesting for Kirby to return.

Idk if it's js me but Deputy Judy Kinda looks like 2017 Pennywise in the staircase scene

I said in Scream part 3 that this is my least favorite sequel (that's definitely Scream 6 now lol) but I still like it. There's lots to love, I just think that the dynamic between Dewey and Gale really annoyed me on my last watch, Sydney's aunt gets zero story/screen time, and the gloss/vaseline look is bad. But Kirby is easily the best new cast member added after the original in my opinion, Olivia's death sequence is one of the franchise's best, and Emma Roberts really shines in act 3. Amazing video as always, thanks!

I got to meet Lucy Hale at Dallas Comic Con back in my high school days!

Don't have a lot to say about this one (honestly this is the one movie in the franchise i'm the most conflicted about). So here's just a comment to help the algorithm and hopefully grow the coven

It’s a shame Wes Kraven passed before he was able to see Harvey’s decay from the industry. I’m sure Wes would’ve had big closure right there

We can all agree that Billy Loomis is the best Ghostface now the killers in Scream 4 were great but Billy and Stu will always be the best Ghostface duo

RU-vid don't even think about it this time I swear I'll fight you lol I thought I was buggin yesterday when it vanished & Olivia has one of the best deaths throughout the franchise in my opinion 👻

19:34 “this other girl.” 😂 that’s Shenae Grimes. She was big at that time too with Degrassi and 90210

I feel sorry that Wes was so fed up with the Ratstein brothers.. From what I've heard, he was one of the nicest people you could ever work with, so the fact that even he was losing his patience with those sons of bitches to the point that he hung up a calendar to count the days he wouldn't have to deal with them is honestly kind of heart-breaking. The Ratsteins are like ebola if it were human, a disgusting, violent, awful disease that ruins everything and everyone around them. With that said, it's really a miracle that the Scream movies turned out so great. In my opinion, if a movie production was really hard to get done and had loads of delays but still turns out great, that's a sign of a great movie. Look at Jaws, for instance, or the original A Nightmare on Elm Street. Also, random, but I like that the cult is like a coven. After all, we are the weirdoes, mister. 😁

I love the MTV Scream TV show,,, please analyze it!!

Mary McDonnell is in Battlestar Galactica and Donnie Darko. I highly recommend both.

Lol yes the Scream 4 filter aka the Rupaul’s Drag Race Season 1 Vaseline filter. It’s camp I swear

don’t forget cursed was his first movie after scream 3…which spilled all the tea….it’s not a coincidence

I definitely prefer the alternate opening in this movie. I always watch it with that version. I have 2 issues with this movie though: 1. For me it lacks the emotionality of the first 3 movies. 2. I really try to like the rebecca death scene but it’s a little hard for me somehow. Anyone who likes Scre4m: Whats your opinion on that scene?

I’m kind of a sucker for the Scream movies. I like all of them, even the third one. I’d happily watch one even if it took place in outer space. I really liked 4, but I remember it getting a lukewarm reception when it was released but I’m glad that its reputation has improved in the following decade.

This other girl lmfaooooo. It’s Shenae Grimes from 90210 and Degrassi lol I’m dying she really called her this other girl 😂😂

what an odyssey to upload. but building the tension and anticipation is what horror is all about lol. hope all y'll coven/cult members are having a nice weekend!! ok onto the classic long live tweet/reaction comment. was gonna pull it back a bit today but a lil stoney baloney so here we are haha ~~~~ whaaaat no red right hand?!! criminal!! how did i not notice that?! yeah impressive how solid the scream franchise is despite the w bros trying to ruin it to maximize profit while actually wasting money on reshoots...yikes the production of cursed sounds cursed haha lol the meme is a perfect metaphor the range emma roberts shows in unfabulous stands alone, she doesn't need to read. nah nah its a power move for sure. leo had to read for titanic, similar situation. secret time hahaha love the chaos of rebellious actors haha yeee question authority! scream 4 was ahead of its time! i feel like they know how to roll out a scream movie now. yes break down the show!!! wes sounds like a cool dude. aw getting emotional over kind, passionate filmmaking! so wholesome. love it. you're an icon!! hahah pll lmao yeah i love how the stab movies have like a million sequels already wow lots of depth in that opening! nice breakdown. yes yes the chase scenes are essential for scream the overexposed outside can be a dreamy look if it's like that yellowy technicolor vibe but in scream 5 its like over the line and a bit blown out haha kirby!! the relationship dynamics are more subtle than i realized, jill be playin people like a fiddle and rory plays it better than jamie did, more self-aware gale and dewdrop is a bummer but i also kind of see how he is acting like how she acted towards him in the original scream since he has more power... petty petty. tom petty. jill is a great killer. strong twist and motivation! shaun of the dead!! the daphne transformation haha sidney and gale are great for creating conflict. knitting lmao how sweet sidney is such a great final girl. deserves the applause. love jamie lee curtis but had to wait till the 90s for such well-rounded female characters. yeah courtney cox is hilarious, she can play the straight man and goofy as well. love it. commitment! that meta joke is like my favorite haha "she wants me" eeek grodi oof yikes in the dms wes and kevin are in touch with what's going on!! foresight for days. the cop commentary was dope! hmm.. other jobs... teachers in a film class like scream 2 would be sick, even side characters or extras would be funny. babysitters of course. maybe like a doctor/nurse or medical school student? ambulance? 911 operator? cable or internet guy? delivery person!! food or package. forehead stab, ouchie. so brutal. i think it's realistic, in premium rush there's a similar death but from this tiny bullet that bounces around in your skull and takes like a half a minute to kill you. horrifying. windchime shot is dope. love the ghostface reflection shots! mail slot! creative. the trivia flirting haha the scream fan's dream. "out of my way amateurs" and "who invited you trevor???" you pick the most esoteric quotes lol its dope yeah robbie was tryna save himself for sure, even though kill your gays is a more common trope? the remake list was so great hahah hell yeah i love that sidney makes the right decisions, character growth! 4th time around. great. yeah kirby pulled a dewey i suppose!! jill was an influencer. if only she had ig and tiktok hahaha great twist. she totally commits to the madness, i'm here for it. lol culkin was doing work!! what a champ. great direction. less is more! ooooh yeah too many stimulants on many a set. not healthy. yeah jill is unhinged. she raised the bar!! total commitment haha. the fakeout ending is rad. hospital has a couple plotholes but still rad. "don't fuck with the original" what a line damn so true. what a dark ending. yeah the only thing scream iv is really lacking is red right hand! generational but i think it balances the old and new well, as did the original in the 90s for the generation before. another banger in the books. bummer you had to go through the copyright malarkey. hype for the next one and looking forward to your scream vi review! it's like the third act of scream season haha. i'm sure the coven will be buzzin with anticipation!

2011 was a great year for the return of ghost face merchandise too