Scum 0.7 | INVISIBLE PLAYERS - Camo & Awareness Skill Explained 

So.. camo and awareness? Cool or not?

You don't need to move around, if you turn 180 degrees and have your back at the player, he will just vanish. Until he moves again. Idk, honestly, I like it. Just because past 150m-200m the grass doesn't render and you're a sitting duck. The skill makes you use foliage and bushes to a more tactical level.

I like it, perhaps instead of going invisible they do some sort of blending effect and you must have similar colors on.

Ill tell ya why I agree with this skill, do a test like this with a player laying in a bush that isnt rendered on your screen.. without camoflage skill, that player will be laying in the middle of a clear empty field from far away so the bush will give no cover at alll, if the player is still and has some camo skill, this will give them some cover from a distance until they start looking around. I really dont see it as an offensive move, its only going to come in handy if you are hidden and watching an area and not moving around, its mostly going to come into play at times you will never notice it like being able to see some player laying in a bush thats not rendering on your screen. In the end, I think it will save players from more cheesy rendering deaths than let people cause rendering deaths if that makes sense lol

HI Ray, It works like real life , it's the way the human eye works, it detects movement as for colour as long as you are not wearing colours that eye would not expect to see (ie wearing oranges in a green bush) then this is how camouflage really works, I think the devs have done a really good job thats why the military wear camos, differing types for differing surroundings, woodland ,desert,urban,winter. makes sense to me remember the 7 S's.........shape, shine, silhouette,shade,sound,speed and shadow get these right and you do become invisible .

Hello Ray! Thx again for your answers last time on the stream, helped me in deciding to buy SCUM and play it. Now as a bush rat and a camper aka passive patient player myself, this option is a deal maker for me personally. Thats thу way of the rat for me. Obviously due to different play styles, people will opt for different skills, but say a designated marksman in the group would absolutely love this feature on him/her.

Another great video, learned so much from you!

Thing is, once Awareness is capped on one person say at 10 If the other person's camo is 10. It's right back to square one. Camo skills overpowers Awareness since it's been in the game. Which is what 2yrs anyway I believe

Stealth,Camo,awareness are op if u know how to use it. You can become invisible soundless and hear/see people around you before they notice u. Try and test awareness level and camo level and distance from player then do naked and with different gear and gear weight. Then test if the guy becomes visible when shooting while u look at the bush and while u don't look at it.

You talked about this yesterday, nice to see how it works. I seen vids on navy seals in camo, they do become practicly invisible but this a little over the top for me. You should only get this kinda camo when wearing full ghillie including weapon ghillie and camo helmet. (after reading other comments on render distance i have mixed feelings)

Really great guide on this thanks so much for testing these things out. Personally I’m not a fan but yeah it works how they want it to so yeah

Great example btw, Ive been meaning to test it myself to see if it was actually turned back on, so thanks :)

I like the skill, it really needs to trigger outside of just a bush as it used to. The main reason for this is to combat the horrible lack of render distance of grass and foliage. You can be in dense grass and all sorts with a ghillie but from 200m I can see you through my scope as if you were lying in a plain field of nothing. Until that improves, this skill should be used to at least offset that a bit (like it used to).

Please please please make a video explaining the best graphic settings for performance, visuals and a best mix of both! Alot of us don't understand the DLSS setting.

Still can't understand how people play this as pvp game 😳 it's just developers playground for making whatever comes into theyr minds. It should be pve game with some pvp elements

great video, would like to have seen if the sniper in camo was revealed if they took a shot not say at you, but another squady or just any direction if you would be able to identify his position...

I feel like the camo skill should be based on two parts; 1 - a base camo skill that applies to all clothing, and 2 - buff to your camo skill based on the clothes you wear. IE a camo skill of 1 with normal clothing on and a camo skill of 1+30% while wearing camo clothing. Maybe a negative buff for High-vis clothing like the prisoner orange or construction clothing with reflective sections.

I actually like this feature in this game. As many people going solo it would be near impossible for them to play if they would never be able to hide somewhere. Imagine that for yourself being a solo person on a server, meeting a full squad lets say 6 people, in the forest and with this skill they might just passing him and the person survived because he didn't move. Otherwise it would be very VERY hard for a solo person to stand a chance. So my answer to your question is.... FUCK YES I like the camo and awareness skills! AND OOH!!!! You can always make your base with one character and once you are happy with your base build on your server, you can everyone in your squad re roll your characters one by one and no one have to care about advanced engineering skill anymore!

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good to know, you shoul dhave had him fire whist invisible see if it devalued his camo

Very interesting, I think it's a cool mechanic. Being shot from 200m when you think you're hidden sucks. Would be nice to know how close you have to get before the player renders in (if at all), and how effective camouflage is in different vegetation (long grass, short grass, etc...)

So... if the camouflaged sniper moves enough, he becomes visible, does firing a shot make the sniper visible as well?

So I had someone jumping around me as I'm driving donuts on the road. Couldn't have been more than 25-30 meters in any direction at any given time yet this dude kept popping in and out of existence right in front of my very eyes. Almost ran the dude over as a result. If this was an effect of the camo and awareness, I'd argue that this feature is bugged.

i am thinking there is maybe a out of sight timer that ticks down 6:29

Not sure if anyone mentioned it. BUT you need to be ticked over to Basic, Medium, Advanced to be 'higher' than the next guy. So you being 94% and him being 53% doesnt matter until you get to the next level.

According to old dev posts (can't find now) and the design document for SCUM it says that the camo clothing increases your overall camo skill to combat awareness that's higher than yours. You said it has no impact, did you test that out to ensure it actually doesn't have an impact?

Need another q and a with devs tbh cause half thus games changed back to the point where there's not much info on everything new and updated

what wouldve been interesting is the distance you are invisible and when you pop out^^

I feel like i remember watching a video explaining camo back in some earlier version. Back then clothing did effect detection. Does anyone else remember this and/or the reason it got removed?

what about if you are crouching in a bush.. what about if you are prone not in a bush and in grass? and what distance is the camouflage, does it have to be far away can he still be invisible close up?.. does he re appear if you walk closer to the bush while he is invisible? Some things I hope you cover on a different video :) cos i feel these are important to know also

It is, but the fact is that the camo player need to stand still, you should have tried to see if he still camo if he shoots

So can he fully see you in tree line while invisible? Can he have any of his body out while looking at you invisible? Can he use alt to look around or third person and see you whilst remain undetected? And can he be crouched and see you? Not enough testing….

makes a change for me to be first here lol, hope you're doing well mate? Good info as always

I heard that the camo skill only works while prone now and the crouching position now reveals you even when you are standing still. Is this true? When did they change this if so?

camo is to easy to grind but awareness needs to be a bit easier to level to balance it out. better to start fresh toon with advanced awareness!

Not sure if anyone asked this and sorry if this question was asked. But, what happens if he takes a shot, at a other player, can you still see him? And I think the skill and what you are wearing sould matter.

Think about it this way. If someone is already hiding in a bush and you scan across that bush not already knowing there's a person there it would be hard indeed to pick them out. I'm talking IRL obviously. Add camo to that equation and it would become even harder. It's naturally easier to pick a person shape out of a bush that you just watched a person run into. Now all of that being said. Hard to spot? Yes. Absolutely invisible? Maybe no. Unless they're outfitted with a full ghuillie. Speaking of which I'm still pissed we can't make a improvised ghullie suit with a rag strip and a sewing kit

Good stuff re testing the camo\awareness skill for 2022. Would have loved to see this test done in the bright orange starting clothes. And imo this feature has more cons then pros. But thank you for showcasing the camo skill test for 2022.This helps clarify things for everyone.

i'm curious, or if you're in a bush, and you switch from prone to crouch? does it reset it?

If you have a lot of different bushes to hide in would finding the correct one be impacted by what they are wearing? A whole tree line and 2 players with the same camo skill, would the one wearing bright colors be easier to find then the one with a properly color matched camoflauge, or is it just blind luck that you would find them at all?

sup ray , honestly i like the way camo works because of how they originally explained how the human eyeball works and field of view ( early devolver digital vids so things may have changed ) along with peripheral shadows so it kind of makes sense that if you dont see someone actually go into a hiding spot ( bush , dark area , mud ) then you really would have a hard time spotting them especially if they dont move but having that feature in a game is a bit extreme but personally i like the added paranoia of not knowing who is around. It stimulates the stealthy spy part of my brain lol. What i am confused about is the the blend feature that tommi showed a while back with him against a wall in the city. Is that another level to the camo? example , white shirt , jeans , hat , and shoes against a white wall ...tommi made it seem like you will almost have a chameleon effect type of camo. Can you test when you have time? also the Tactics skill has not made it into the game yet ..if it still will be added maybe it will enhance the awareness skill.

How about if you are near him do you still cant see him?

What if you're ALT looking? Does it make you pop out?

I'm curious if firing a weapon would the camouflaged person to become visible.

clever mechanics

do you get revealed with free look?

Devs need to fix .

Does camo work in foliage aswell?

People go invisible even when their not in bushes it’s dumb

Is anyone having a bug where your archery skill is not going up

That invisible camo thing was canceled for a long time because it was to op. why did they bring it back?

This is a great skill to have in this game. Solo Play will be really unique and has a longer chance at survival while also giving more stealth kill and stalking options.

If you tell me this works with the Pink camo,than its crap ;)

That's garbage, extremely unfair and broken. I hope they change this

I think camo should just be taken out, the dude was already hidden well enough without it, when you could see him in the bush, completely disappearing is just cheese, I use to go with a 50 year old character with a short dong for max intelligence I could have 5 int, 4 constitution 3 everything else and max out awareness and nearly max out camo, I remember one time in just my undershirt and boxers I was prone in a field waiting to enter a town and deadly ran almost right over me, I heard him coming up behind me I turned my guys head and saw two guns floating in the air, then as he got in front of me i saw him, you know I had to be completely off his screen for deadly to miss me. You can probably use it to rack a bunch of kills in death matches, maybe try it some time the 50 year old tanky ninja build max awareness put the rest in camo max end put the rest in running

No not cool just make it so I can see u

This wasn't that informative. Need to see when he pops out of camo as you approach and at what distance

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Its suck

I really dont like this, encourages people to play like living carpets.😐

I heard that the camo skill only works while prone now and the crouching position now reveals you even when you are standing still. Is this true? When did they change this if so?