I personally have the Fuma 3 cooler on a 7700x that's undervolted and really love the looks and cooling it offers. One thing I'm curious about is running the Fuma 3 with higher RPM fans like Scythe's Wondersnail. Wondering if you could do a video like that showing how 1 or 2 wondersnails perform, similar to how you did the P12Max videos for the LF2 AIOs.
no harm grabbing some higher perf fans & swap them on, it might get slightly noisier tho i did slap on (used) nf-a12x25 on my mugen5, it drop the temps by another 3-5c
I noticed in Gamers Nexus review that they actually benchmarked this with an added fan on the backside, for a total of three...it helped a lot vs. the stock way.
Holy shit you're awesome STS. I've been struggling to find a good cooler for my i7 11700f that won't break bank. You and Tech Legend have been my only saving graces when it comes to any of this. My wallet and my brain thank you!!! May your wallet be fat and your sponsorships plentiful!
If I was going to swap out the fans that come with the Fuma 3, what fans would you recommend and would it be worth it for a price to performance ratio? I'm currently cooling a 5800x3D but will be upgrading after Christmas. Thanks
been using fuma2 & mugen5 revb for over 2 years now, i say their heatsinks are well designed imo they did pair them with lower rpm fans for lower noise (maybe cost too) i tested swappin nf-a12x25 on them, it did improve temps by 3-5c stock scythe fans are now my casing fans LOL
mine is the same, going to replace scythe fuam 2 rev b. fans to gentle typhoon ones, it increases a lot of performance too. that's a very good upgrade.
I'd like to see you guys review ASUS' Ryujin 3 - 360mm RGB AIO and its latest gen Asetek pump. I'd like to know if the display screen premium is worth the extra cost, and if it's performing in league with the latest gen pumps other AIOs have.
Would've loved to have this cooler installed on my NR200. Too bad the 154mm advertised height is false. Hopefully the next iteration would be ITX friendly.
Thx for that video and info about that tower cooler, I think the idea to buy an AIO for my Ryzen 7 3700x is nonsens and go more old school with a for me in better opinion with an air tower cooler. For gaming an idle that is enough and mostly quieter then an AIO and much more less cost in the future, after years maybe only the fans change and thats it!
Thanx for the video as always. Lemme ask you a question. It's not related to this video, but I wonder how NH-D15 can beat Arctic LF II 360 A-RGB in your 250W workload test. It's an 360 AIO vs an air cooler, I thought almost any 360 AIO would win hands down.
That's an excellent question! I've been looking into this myself for some time now. The numbers you see there usually averaged over 3x runs. For the LF360, 420, 240 & NH-D15 this doesn't apply as these coolers were used to set the machine up, hence all the trial runs were done using these. Especially the D15 & LF360 were benchmarked far more often than anything else because of the exact phenomenon you're referring to. If you look at the 120W benchmark chart, the hierarchy goes: LF240 < D15 < LF360, which makes total sense. For the 250W workload, it changes to: LF240 < LF360 < D15. However, if you look at one of the AIO videos where we got the 320W workload included, solely the LF360 is left of those three. So far, the best explanation we can come up with is that the Base / Cold plate is the most restrictive piece of a cooler. And depending on the workload, the results, or the difference between two coolers can change depending on its implementation. For example, if you compare the 120 vs 250 list, there are Direct-touch coolers that are above a bunch of other ones but are gone from the list at 250 while the "other ones" are remaining (i. e Arctic Freezer 34 eSports) In the case mentioned above, you can actually observe the "thermal capacity", - or however you want to call it -, of a base. By this I mean that there is a specific "max" of temperature you can push into a base until it becomes saturated and can't pass through anything more to the heatsink. The best example of this is Direct-touch vs Nickel Plated base. On lower workloads, the Direct-touch approach usually wins, even with smaller heatsinks and lower heatpipe count, because this approach is incredibly good for transporting heat from A to B. On the flip side, it becomes saturated fairly quick, leading to nickel-plated approaches to win at 250W and higher. For a comparison like NH-D15 and LF360, this seems to be even more complicated. Our first thought was that at 250W, the LF360's base is just saturated (pure copper base), hence the D15 takes over because the Nickel-Plated approach can keep up. However, this wouldn't explain why the LF420 / 280 are still keeping up. Using my logic above all of the LF- should saturate at the same point given the radiator can dissipate the heat. The longer I'm looking into this issue, the deeper I fall into the hole. So far, my best explanation is that there are thresholds at which the heat transportation between base and water for the LF series performs better or worse. Push the heat up a tiny bit more and the LF becomes less effective, push it even higher and it becomes more effective again (everything in relation to an NH-D15). On the other side, this effect can also be looked at from the other side, allowing the water to be cooled slightly better, and the effectiveness in relation to a D15 goes up or down, hence why the 280 remains higher. Also quite interesting is that the comparison between an LF- and NH-D15 is very different on an AMD vs Intel CPU. Sure mounting hardware and stuff, but it's quite a big difference compared to any air cooler. As you might see, I'm not done investigating why this is the case. And it will take a few months until we have all the coolers in stock benchmarked so that we have as much reference data as possible. So far, all I can say is that the D15 is generally comparable to a LF240. The LF360 on the other hand, is only better if the heat is pushed high enough. At low workloads, the D15 remains more effective. This whole topic will surely get a separate video. There definitely needs to be some finger-pointing and showcasing why and what happens to generate these results. But first we need to finish benchmarking all the remaining coolers. Wow, I really went too far with this answer...
@@STSYT wow, I get it. Also could something be just wrong with your particular LF 360? I mean the base might be bended a bit etc Would really be interested in such a video on topic
i have the fuma 2 rev b. and i'm questioning... how much is the fuma 3 better? since we can change the fans of it for better ones, we can easily get the extra performance... but still, what if we tested better fans on each fuma? would be good to know how much the dissipator really improved the performance... i'm wondering if i change my fuma 2 to the fuma 3 version, or if just buy better fans, (both should get me some relative cost).
