Seahawks' Pete Carroll opens up on Russell Wilson's pick to Malcolm Butler | Richard Sherman Podcast 

Chris Collinsworth, teamed with Al Michaels that night, made the greatest comment immediately after the play. "If you took Seattle's entire offensive line off the field, I would still trust Marshawn Lynch to get 1 yard".

Love Richard's point about Pete bringing something new to the NFL by coaching via positivity. That's what made me really enjoy watching the Hawks vs any other team.

Thanks Richard. We love you in Seattle.

Oh wow it's a beautiful thing to see these two in the same room 💪🏽✊🏽

I still want to cry. How do you not go Beastmode? None of it makes any sense, and it's been almost 10 years.

So wonderful to see you two together...it rubs off on all of us. You help us understand the meaning of 'respect.' Thank you.

I saw the Malcom Butler interview where he spoke about recognizing that pass play, at the goal line, because the Patriots were practicing goal line defense using known Seahawks plays, the week before the super bowl. They even played the video of the Patriots practicing for that play. I wish Sherman talked about that in this video with Pete.

Richard Sherman has always been one of my favorite personalities and his playjng skills, insticts and raw swagger was second to none. He is So smart and charismatic. This is the perfect platform and he is perfect for bringing out just real talk. Great stuff

This was just fantastic. I earnestly feel inspired just by hearing this conversation

As a Bears fan, I would love to have a new coach with Pete's infectious personality and game intelligence. We haven't done shit and are only getting worse every year. Our coach is currently a vanilla rock of outdated game schemes. I loved watching the Legion of Boom Seahawks

Don't forget. Hightowers play before that was incredible. Also he was out coached by Bill. First thing was that Seattle was restless and slow and Bill saw that and that's why he didn't call a timeout. Furthermore, he did not want to give them a chance to respond to the defense of New England. Then the defense was goal line but with 3 corners. A defense they haven't played all season. Furthermore, if you listen to Flores and Mike Lombardi, you know that this defense was introduced to the Patriots in the offseason because Bill was not happy with the defense in the red zone. Then New England knew the play from analysis and coached and played it perfectly. Then on the next play, the Patriots lured Seattle into the neutral zone at their own goal line. There is an old video where Bill explains the risk-reward ratio of this strategy. The penalty is for the offensive half the distance, so not much. In return for the offensive, the chance to get away from your own goal line is worth a lot. So good chances and risk ratio. Pete is a good coach but Bill is legendary. In situations like this you can see why. And for everyone who thinks a run would have been possible, take another look at the previous play. New England would have stopped them and a lot of time would have run down or they would have had to burn the timeout and then just postponed the same problem.

Russell Wilson wanted that MVP and idc what Pete says. I'll always believe he called that play to give Russell what he wanted

That superbowl win was special on so many levels... My grandpa ( who was a fan since the inception of the seahawks right along with 3 y/o me ) had died the May prior to it and that was always the thing he wished he could see.. When the final seconds ticked off I'm not going to lie I had some tears in my eyes thinking that somewhere he was watching and cheering right there with me. Thank you Pete and Sherm

Glad to see Sherman and Carroll patch things up

Whenever I am feeling down, especially this year, I always look for the Sherman face after the pick.

Legion of Boom was fucking legendary. Even as a Steelers fan I loved watching those teams back then. Their WR core + Marshawn was also dope

It's cool to hear it directly from Pete, after all the videos I've seen where people speculate about why they threw it.

I got goosebumps when he mentioned the parade. That was huge for our city!!!! 🎉

It still hurts bruh

I still remember seeing the team celebrate the win, it felt like the whole city was there at the parade 😭

The deep pass that led your team to that situation was already miraculous...it was like two RARE events, one good and one bad, happened in a very short period of time...after all these years there is no point to blame anybody

Having only moved to Seattle the year before with my fam we were still figuring out the city. So making the trek downtown and trying get in the right spot so my 4 yr old son could actually see the parade was one the most exhilarating and exciting moments of my life. At one point I called out to Russ as he was passing to take a pic and to my surprise he held the trophy up and smiled right at us. And I got the perfect pic!! I also have Marshawns skittles he threw at us too!!😂

I don't care if anyone calls me a fool - I'm still living in the 2013-2014 glorious years.

Such a dope interview, thank you for sharing 🙌🏼🙌🏼 appreciate how Richard reflects and shares his growth, and Pete seems to have no need for more from his success then what he has: great relationships like this one. Two very impressive people, thanks again!

in thankful for this explanation , still hurts but this was some closure

My kids were at that parade!💖 That positivity is why we love Pete!

Pete will always be a champion Go Hawks

Man i used to be harsh on pete but hearing him talk and seeing sherm jus light up and love to listen to every word he says u can tell hes one of if not thee best players coach of all time, also really cool to hear the insight on why they called pass there.

All in the past, moved on years ago. 12s have mad respect for Sherm and Coach Pete, absolute Hawks legends!

Awesome they are able to discuss this as friends openly..

The play overshadows their superbowl win

Awesome interview from 2 awesome dudes

Greetings from Belgium and yes,appreciated the input and the positive energy you gave and for the memories!!!still frustration of that particular game and this could have been a dynastie for the ages!!!what a great ride ❤ and a Seahawks forever !

Maaaaaan i also gotta say, watching u block that pass in the endzone to end the game and then watching the infamous post game interview was one of those football moments ill remember forever. That and the packers OT comeback. That was some amazing shit!!! I still watch that every now and then😅

That is so cool to see the two of them talking. I was under the impression there might have been some bad blood between them. I’m so glad to see they’re cool.

You did not have to throw! You had BEASTMODE on the 1 yard line

Probably the most stunning play I have ever seen. 😵‍💫😵‍💫

Great conversation

Pats fan here, just wanted to say how classy your franchise and fan base is. A lot of teams that lost to us screamed CHEATING because they couldn't handle they lost. You guys took it like the champs you are. PS thanks for kicking the shit out of Manning the year before.

i think we need to focus on how amazing butler was on that play rather than blame pete

I've been saying what Pete said here about the goal line play for years - they had to throw it on one of the 1st and goal downs because of the time left with only 1 timeout. It was also the best down to throw on since the Pats were anticipating Lynch for the first play in the series. It was simply a helluva play by Malcom Butler.

Seeing the look Sherman about to bawl after that interception was pure gold lol

As a Patriots fan I respected this team more than any we went up against...ever. Both teams had highs and lows, every player put everything on the field. But after 2007 and 2011, this SB went from pure agony and another freak play to seal it to Malcolm Butler making the greatest play in SB history. I get the play call argument, but that's retrospective. Butler decleated a receiver like a foot taller than him and somehow intercepted the ball on a cannon shot of a play on the goal line. If he breaks up the pass it's a forgotten play. Unreal. Respect for these guys though to be sure. I don't see any real losers in this game

Still think Pete made the right choice. Not just for time management reasons as everyone points out, but because Lynch was not a great goal-line back and his conversion rate went down as the downs progressed. I loved it when I saw them throw it...Butler just made a legendary play.

All I can say is thank you, Pete. Thank you. “They’re going goaline!”… Brady was awesome in that 4th quarter comeback too

Throwing on a goal line defense makes sense. Coming from a Patriots fan

I wish the Seahawks would hire Richard Sherman full time to coach Riq Woolen and Devon Witherspoon.

...and this is why we love Coach Carroll

Watch the interception again. Seattle's tight end Luke Willson had his man beat on a corner route and Marshawn Lynch had separation on a wheel route. If Russell Wilson had made a better read, seeing that Malcolm Butler was positioned well, he could have "simply" thrown it to the left. Would have been a more difficult throw to make, but certainly a better choice.

Love these guys

Russell Wilson could have easily called an audible and give Lynch the football but his selfish arrogance costed his team the championship

This makes a lot of sense now that he explains it. I was always wondering wtf he was thinking calling that pass play

What gets ignored about this situation is that playoffs was incredibly luck based. The Seahawks should have lost to the Packers. The Packers should have lost to the Cowboys. The Cowboys should have lost to the Lions. Luck can cut both ways. This is why in football its so hard to do things a few years in a row. It's all 2 of 4 and 3 of 5 shit cause something is going wrong even if you're the best by a mile..

Love this!

For me as a Seahawks fan that SB loss was BRUTAL for me as a die hard fan. Born in Seattle, never seen the mariners make it to the world series, the seahawks spoiled me. Watching one of our seattle teams making it to the superbowl not once but 2 years in a row was awesome. Just awesome. Blowing out Denver in SB 48 and then knowing we were going to play the GOAT Tom Brady and the Patriots in SB 49. Omg im thinking we have to win this sb. And as a seahawks fan i was so excited it was almost like i was in that game myself. And i remember watching that circus catch that our seahawks wide receiver made. Im thinking just run the ball with Lynch now. I remember we run the ball with Lynch on first down and im thinking he got in the endzone at first but he was just short of the goal line. And its second and goal. And i saw the seahawks formation. And im saying to my friends who are watching the game with me, "thry better not throw the ball, just run he ball with marshawn, one of the best if not thee best running backs in the game. And sure enough i see wilson drop back and throw the ball and remember hearing Al michaels ghastly voice saying, " the ball is intercepted at the goal line." And im sorry but i was PISSED and as a man i can afmit i was in tears. Tears of agony. WHY WHY WHY are you NOT handing the ball off. Im pretty sure the whole stadium was expecting wilson to hand the ball off. And not anymore but i remember i seriously hsd nightmares about that loss. I dont anymore but that game we didnt just lose the game. We lost what could hsve been. Possibly a trip to a 3rd straight superbowl appearance, who knows. But in some ways just as a fan, that loss still stings a bit. But still love Pete Carroll and the seahawks

wow richard is so expressive with just his facial expression, it really drives the conversation forward without him having to say anything verbally. but then again i'm biased because i love sherm, as a fellow Stanfordian (although i will say sherm was MUCH better in the pros than he was in college ha ha xP). but yeah i love sherm, man.

I WAS AT THE PARADE cold as heck tho hahaha!

I'm not even a Seahawks fan and that SB loss still hurts me to my core 😂

That play haunts Seattle. I imagine it haunts Pete and that team even more. So close. Carroll gave us that great era of football. Wish it could have gone on forever.

100% they had to pass it in that situation. The timeouts, downs, and clock demanded it. Bill knew this, and invited them to pass by stacking the line. The particular play call was horrible. A fade to the corner was the right play.

That played broke my 12 year old heart harder than any girl could as a diehard Seahawks fan

Marshawn Lynch’s huddle story is the best lol

I’m not even a Pats or hawks fan but I wish they could go back in time and change that play call.

Bruh!!!!!! 1 yard line with beast mode. Nobody was going to stop him!!!!!!! RUN THE BALL!!!!!!!!! I lost sleep over this and the Seahawks aren’t even my team.

DAMN Sherm🎉 You a way better man than I gave you credit for cause I'm still working on getting over that one 😢

Hearing Carroll say he sent a pass play when he saw the pats defense in goal line, speaks volumes of Belichick’s mind games. Wouldn’t be surprised if he did that on purpose to have a shot at intercepting the ball.

One of my favorite moments in that Super Bowl was seeing the face Sherman made when the interception happened. 😂

As a 49ers fan, I'm a big fan of Malcolm Butler and that pick

You have 4 shots... You give all 4 to Marshaled Lynch...game over

Not “Russell Wilson’s pick to Malcom Butler” more like “Pete Carroll’s COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS GOALINE PLAY CALL & SITUATIONAL AWARENESS” ‼️‼️‼️‼️

That (2014 Seattle Seahawks) should've won more than just 1 Superbowl. Between Seahawks in the NFL and the (Dallas Mavericks 2011 in the NBA) two teams in their sport that should've won multiple championships but didn't within the past decade.

Appreciate a bit of insight on "the play call". Football has never been the same for me since. Sounds maybe overly dramatic, but it is the truth...it's like a scar. I can't comprehend what it felt like for Pete, the coaches, the players.

This is an example of overthinking things. Pete said they had to throw it. They were on the 1. You give it to your best player. If they wanted to let Russ scramble on one of the downs fine but you don’t put it in the air at the 1 with the Super Bowl on the line with Mr. Sure Thing AKA beast mode in your back field.

“That Play”. Was a part of one of the top 6 SB’s of all time 😂😂😂

They didn't want to give the ball to the beast mode because the way he treated the media, he did not want to speak. He did not want to talk, and guess what an MVP does. He goes around giving interviews and they knew Lynch wouldn't do that so they wanted russell wilson to pass the ball.

Pete and Russ just wanted Russ to shine. The pats saw the play coming. If that doesn’t tell you that Pete had no intention of running that down idk what would

I came from club shay shay just to tell Pete carrol you screwed that team run the effin ball on the 1 yard line with beast mode every time

I personally think if that pass is incomplete that they run it the next play. I don’t think he had an agenda. Some time you get too cute or try and out smart the goat on the other side. Things happen it just happen to be that magnitude of the moment

I used to have 😮so much respect for Pete Carroll until this happen in the superbowl, in my eyes he went for being a great coach to an average one 😮😢

That legion of boom team was different man

As far as risk mitigation goes, surely a slant must've been vetted for things like batted balls at the line of scrimmage and INTs, no? I get wanting all four cracks at the end zone, but was a slant the right call?

as a pats fan, I love pete carroll. Thanks for the ring baby

No lie..that Seahawks team was scary good and they still have been solid the past few years

I now see how he lasted so long I’d never heard him talk before

Nobody will ever remember that Pete Carroll even won a ring. The only thing anyone will ever think when he’s mentioned is “isn’t that the guy who didn’t hand the ball to the best RB in the league from the 2 yard line?” It’s delicious.

pete rocking the iconic bike dad shoes 😂 love it hahaha.

nah bro. you have marshawn at the 1 with a timeout and a first down. you run that shit in. period.

Great show 😂😂

That's the only explanation Ive heard that actually made sense. Still think that if you have to call a pass it's not a quick slant.

I was there, meaning I lived there at the time. The situation at the end of the New England Super Bowl called for a pass on that down. If they had run on that down and the run failed, then they would have needed to call a timeout. If something had gone wrong on a third down pass play (a sack or a receiver tackled ahead of the goal line) it's game over. I continue to say, the outcome was a consequence of Russell Wilson's limitations as a passer. They couldn't count on him to hit a receiver in the middle of the end zone or the back of the end zone. They just didn't have that kind of play in the repertoire. New England knew that something like that was coming, and it was a simple matter of the db's playing the ball wherever it went. The sequence was supposed to go pass-if the pass failed, then run Marshawn Lynch-if the run failed, probably have Wilson roll out on an option. They couldn't do a roll out option on second down because of the time out situation. Lynch, by the way, was not really a good short yardage runner. I said that before and a lot of people disputed it. Finally, someone who knew something jumped in and said that, no, he wasn't. I saw a lot of him on television. No, I never got the idea that he was a good short yardage back.

A couple of things I don't understand about Pete Carroll's thought process, as someone who is FAR from an expert in the sport, so feel free to correct me/explain where his logic is solid...but 1) If you have a time out to work with, the run game has been working...why must the first play be a pass? 2) How is Belichick bringing out the goal line defense a surprise or something that would change a play call from a run to a pass...seeing as you're on the goal line and it is to be expected that you'll be facing a goal line defense? 3) Since you're facing a goal line defense, it would be expected that the middle of the field would be congested. You have a mobile quarterback...why not have him boot out? Why run a pass play that is designed for the middle of the field?

For the million time. Coach Pete made the right call, Russ made a horrible execution of the play call and Buttler made an unbelievable play. A pass play was needed in this situation. There was not enough time to run 4 plays.

1:57 I have been saying this for years; if you run first, then everyone knows that you have to throw next and run for your third. I'm glad to hear I was right. Everyone else is just irrational.

I always thought people were grossly underestimating how many teams and coaches would have tried to throw the ball on first down. Almost like in your head you always envision the super bowl being won on a throw so trams get a little cheeky

Pete literally got to build the LOB up and literally destroyed them in one play. He’s a successful coach is because he has very strong emotional intelligence and strong leadership. I went to usc and one of my professors told me Pete’s strongest trait is his leadership.

As a Packers fan, that goaline throw and Sherm's face almost makes that botched onside worth it. Helps put me to bed with a smile on at least😂

The Pats knew what to watch for, 3 receivers was the key. Once that happened they sent in the only play that would work against it, stuff the outside receiver giving Butler a straight line to fight it out with their receiver.

The Patriots prevented 3 or 4 potential dynasties during their 20 year reign. Rams and Seahawks from the NFC were both in position to win their second and continue success, and between Steelers, Colts, and Ravens in the AFC who knows how many more SBs they'd have between them.

That play, was Richard's karma, or Crabtree's curse. I was watching the game with Seahawks fans, and I told them, that hurt they were feeling, won't go away for a long time. It's one thing to lose in a blow out, when you never had a chance, the other team was just better, it's a whole other thing when it's on a last play when you should've run it

I understand the mind set in a chess game with their goal line defense set up, should have been a walk in td and the cornerback just made a great instinctual play on the ball….. BUT. you can’t think like that. it’s not just another game, it’s the Super Bowl. Just get the ball over the goal line. Run it.