Searching For Better Floating Shelf Hardware 

Great Option. Thanks for sharing

This tutorial is awesome, thank you.

Gorgeous shelf and looks like a great system to hang it! Love the bowties and crack. You always do such beautiful work!

Awesome system and even better craftmanship

Thanks for this video! I have had alot of issues delivering to clients only to have them destroy the project. This is a much better system to deliver to a client self install situation. I'm going to go to this system for all my deliverable projects.

So far so good

I love a touch of shade in woodworking videos😜

Awesome video!

pretty sweet!

so good

Dear b firth. In North America we are restricted to studs location (16inch on center). Still a 18 (46 cm) inch bracket is enough to make a 36 (ca 90 cm) inch long shelf. In Europe it may even be less, since you have solid walls and can have a screw (attachment to the wall) every 3-4 (8 - 10 cm) inches. Hope this helps.

Have a bunch of live-edge off cuts that would make beautiful "floating" shelves but the real problem is they are usually about 3/4 - 7/8" thick which falls short of the required minimum of 1" for these "concealed" bracket/hardware techniques. I have ripped 1-1 1/2" slices from back side of my pieces to attach onto wall with screw-type attachments and then, in turn, used dowels to attach remaining shelf piece to the wall piece. Works well for weight bearing under, say, 15-20 lbs.

Man that looks awesome I just wish they had a 1" and 5/8" brackets

Those are by far my favorite drill and driver!

Nice work Brian. Seems a shame to Bowtie and then mount the shelf too high to see them..... Also be careful about dropping all your shims in from above - this is putting a downward tilt onto the backplate. Gravity already works in this direction - there would be merit to shim coming up from underneath.....Just sayin'.

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On something that long I might make the bracket that goes on the wall 10-12" shorter and give them holes every 2-3" so they just have to find the holes closest to the studs.

1/2 inch threaded rod. Mark a level line in the centre of where the shelf would be on the wall. Drill a slightly undersized hole directly into the centre of each stud about 3 inches in. Cut threaded rod to suitable length. Put the threaded rod into the actual chuck of your drill, and drive it directly into the stud. Once all are in you can knock the threaded rod sticking out from the wall left/right or up/down to make sure each is sticking out level/square. Measure centres of each rod and transfer to back of shelf, drill slightly oversized hole in back of shelf and then slide it onto the rods. Usually the threads grab the shelf enough to use no glue, if needed you can add abit of glue. Works fantastic, super strong

This video has convinced me to give this hardware a go since I have a client whose made a request for this exact thing. Too bad there's not a simple solution for scribing the shelves to the walls.

Like the t-shirt! So I guess the main point about these cleats is that ideally the back edge of the shelf should be quite straight and go onto a pretty straight wall as it's much harder to scribe to the wall than with bolts.

“And since I’m not a savage” Ha! Loved that truth!

Great idea on floating shelve, love the sleek look of the wood shelve but bow ties distract the whole look should of not crack the beautiful natural looking wood.

This is a great idea, Brian. The mount has always been a difficult issue.

Used this shelf system on two jobs and I thought it was well worth the price

Another great video, thank you! Your router jig looks awesome. Do you have a video on how you built it?

Looks like a nice bracket and should work well for short shelves, but what happens when a client tries to install it on a long shelf with a wall that has a bow in the middle?

Thank you for this highly detailed tutorial! We are about to install an extensive set of Hovr shelves that will wrap continuously around both inside and outside wall corners. In construction phase, we took extreme care to flatten the walls and also installed continuous horizontal blocking, so we will not be limited to stud locations when mounting the male extrusion to the wall and hopefully will avoid the need for any but the slightest shimming. To keep the face edges of adjoining shelves aligned at corner joints, we plan to use Dominos and therefore will need to slide one shelf laterally to engage the Domino mortise after having mounted the shelves but BEFORE tightening set screws. Longest shelf is about 4'. Should we expect that a few mallet blows should be capable of sliding the shelf sideways, provided that we allow sufficient lateral clearance at the sides of the extrusions and mortises? BTW, Bondhus screw driver would be useful for tightening the set screws so tightly cramped to the wall.

Great video. Just a note shimming should be done with two shims, one from each side. This prevents twisting of the aluminum wall channel.

I bought this system after seeing your video and it works great my only complaint is that for the 8 foot long rail it was $150 Canadian dollars ( ouch) without the hardware kit

idk, seems like a lot more work. got a video on installing the first option? i just need a cheap storage solution that looks good enough for the wife.

I see wonky walls making the French cleat line up as the aluminum bends to the wall. Edit… Okay you mentioned shims!

For the set screws do they have to go in the bottom or would they on the top so that if you are doing a high shelf they would be hidden

More likely to see the bottom of the shelf though, no? Anyway, that track is a great solution!

Nice video. Awesome idea, but the price is unreal. $170.00 for an 8 foot aluminum bracket I think is a little too steep.

This is great for if you want it to hold decorative items nothing more.

Wow, those brackets are pricey! $25 per foot!! I wonder if you need the bracket the whole length of the shelf, or if you could do 3-4" every 18" or so. Seems very strong, so that may be a way to keep the insane cost down.

thanks for video!!!wowww cost $169 is more than buyinng one already made

What kind of routing bit to cut into wood like that?

Where do you buy the aluminum braket ??

For DIY the routed out pocket is next to impossible.

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A great product and a great video. Very well done and through. However, I think you’re in a tough spot with your product as both installs are above most DIY capabilities…IMO! Have you considered sending out your product with the idea of using the original attachment equipment but prior to sending it out, you pre-drill a series of hole for the client. Of course knowing that they will have a limited option of exact location that they’d like to install it. Or contacting them prior to drilling the holes and they locate and send you the stud locations? My guess you’ve already tried that route and it didn’t work out.

Brian- You have a video on mortising jig to inlay the aluminum strut. -JoJo

Great video, but wow expensive. $200.00 for four 2 foot pieces. not counting the hardware kits. Looks good though!

I believe that you will have such a great house made of wood especially to you in heaven.. great job and I do learn alote of things from you my dear.. from Baghdad with love

Great but you forgot to mention thats its nearly 1 00 euro a foot , crazy expensive use HAFELE CONCEALED HIDDEN SHELF SUPPORT BRACKET FIXING MOUNT FOR FLOATING SHELVES will work on 24 cm shelf

I can't believe you made a crack so that you can put in bow ties.... It's like breaking a leg so you can wear a cast. lol

Walls can and usually are very judgemental!😁

I was was all in with until the phony crack thing. What a waste. That is like the guys that take beautiful guitars and relic them. Thanks for vid.

I’ve put up a few shelves using this system. I would have to say that a person with limited skill would not be able use this system. You will need to have a higher degree of skill to install theses - especially adjusting for a wavy wall and scribing to the wall which means that you need to install the bracket that much deeper.

Great video if your shelves are at least 2" thick...if not, totally useless.

I'm worried about sheetrock walls that are wavy.

Just turn the bracket sideways and both screws will be in the stud.

Wow, that seems like massive overkill. And very expensive. In the UK that bracket costs £80 ($100US). You rarely see stud walls over here so you could easily pre-drill the holes in the shelf for the customer. I’m no expert but I thought virtually all US studs were 16 inches on centre and if they are not, the customer could tell you. I thought that routing the channel was a lot of work and I was disappointed to see that fixings were visible underneath the shelf. Amazon have excellent brackets (Gas N Pow3r Concealed bracket) that cost £9 for four and my granny could fit them. There is no problem with stud width either. Also, the need for shims is clearly a negative and totally unnecessary with normal brackets. Your shelves are great and these comments are no reflection on your work. My comments relate to the bracket system only and not to your lovely looking shelves.

½" all-thread is the absolute best. The bracket you showed at the beginning is relying on a small ¼" long set screw holding the plate to the pole. Simply thing to do. Drill a ½" hole in the center of a stud in the wall, do this as often across the span as needed. Put 2 nuts on the end of the all-thread and hammer it some of the way into the hole. After that, start turning the all-thread into the hole using a wrench on the furthermost outward nut(the inner one stops it from turning) Once you're bottomed out, remove the nuts. Repeat as needed. Now you place the shelf flat to the wall on top of the all thread and move the shelf to the location you want it. Mark the all-thread locations. Drill a ½" hole in the shelf deep enough for the protruding rods. Slide shelf onto rods, use dead blow when needed. Boom, done. Cost? What, maybe $10? How much was that french cleat and wow what a time consuming install that was.

I can INTRAPOLATE with the best of them. A guy who likes bowtie cutting wow

maybe i dont get it... the CLIENT has to drill into the shelf... the CLIENT does all the work to attach to the wall, etc.. what you do?

nice hardware.... BUT ONE UGLY SHELF. GOOD GRIEF

I don't know what you charge for your floating shelves, but to add $150 for 8' or $99 for a 4' piece has to be passed on the the client or absorbed by you. I see below you are working on million dollar homes, but this is for a shipped product to same million dollar homes, they are probably not going to install it themselves anyway. I guess the selling price determines if it is worth it for you the builder and the end customer.

I'm, sorry this idea is a fail not only for price but labor to install it!

Nice video, but... Destroying a perfectly good looking piece of wood by making a fake crack in order to install some ugly bowties. WTF!

Just letting you know that the volume's too low. Had to turn my volume up as high as it would go. Still couldn't hear you well.

Sprinkle some bow ties in because is it really a RU-vid carpentry video if you don’t