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I haven't watched such a through and sophisticated video about bike locks. Super proper, amazing! I will get myself the Abus lock and hopefully my bike won't get stolen for the 5th time again. Thanks!
Thanks for your feedback, I try my best to make reviews transparent and I'm working on refining my review process to produce quantifiable data to help viewers understand the security of each featured product in more detail.
Just got the Seatylock Viking Gold for just $80 on Amazon to secure my electric scooter in addition to the Seatylock Mason 180 U-lock! Less than half the price of the ABUS Granit CityChain and I'd love to mention that a slider-cylinder locking mechanism of the former is far less susceptible to seize and fail compared to the disc-detainer mechanism of the latter with the fact that lock-picking among bike thieves are basically non-existent especially with a multi-lock setup like mine.
Angle Grinder is for cutting the post the bike is locked on. Cuts like butter. If the thief wants to carry your bike with a 3kg chain into a waiting van it's bye bye bike.
How about a review on the Pewag 3/8 security chain that comes with its Viro Panzer lock on a kit? It is one of the security chains that have a rockwell hardness scale of at least 62, making them debatably bolt cutter proof. Would love to see how it performs against the latest, cutting edge angle grinders compared to these other chains!
The circumference of of these two different shaped chains make a big difference in how thick they are which means harder to cut through: Square: 40 mm Hexagon: 60 mm
This isn’t correct. The length of one side on the CityChain’s links is 5mm (some difference between links) giving a total area of 0.6495cm2. The sides on the Seatylock Viking are roughly 8.59mm (again this varies per link) giving an area of 0.7378cm2. With these measurements, more metal is standing in the way of your bike with the Viking.
Are you able to use a cordless angle grinder one-handed like a thief would if they were working on an elevated chain instead of a vice? I haven't been able to see anyone "test" this but it seems like an elevated heavy duty chain would be much better than a U-lock for these kinds of angle grinder attacks.
You're right that an unsupported chain lock would be much more difficult to cut than a U-lock, as it'll move around when being cut. Using an angle grinder one-handed is risky business, especially when cutting objects that aren't properly secured. The second hand is needed to stop the grinder from jumping or skipping if a snag occurs. Rather than mimicking thieves on the street, our testing is designed to reduce uncontrollables to a minimum providing results that are more comparable.
A very interesting and professional review! Which chain with a lock is the best under $200? How about a manger? Is a disc lock with an alarm also worth it?
Under $200 you have a wide range of options and ultimately, "the best'" option will be different for everyone and is dependent upon your situation. A higher value biek will benefit from a high security chain, whereas a lightweight portable chain lock might be the best option for a cheap old bike. If you're looking for a disc lock with an alarm check out the Oxford Boss 16mm, unbeatable for quality.
@@bikelockwiki BTW... ...Nice Review of the two locks featured. I appreciate the manner of which you go about testing/destroying the locks and chains. Combining the cost of locks and bolt cutters the cost most add up. I subscribed to help promote your future test.
@@ilovephotography1254 Thanks for the feedback and support! I want to provide the best content possible and it takes a while to put together, so I'm glad you found it helpful! More coming soon.
I have the Granit Extreme U and Chain and the New York U and Chain. Granit extreme was the strongest U Lock in the world until the release of the Altor SAF now it’s in third place since the D1000 dropped.
I'm thinking that just about any decent quality 10mm chain (aprox. 4/10 inch) would be well served by the bolt cutter testing you did here, which I noticed included leverage from the ground positioning. Another chainlock which would be I think very comparable in durability to the ABUS Granit would be the Kryptonite Evolution series with it's 10 mm links. I have that chainlock, and I feel satisfied with it for all that I've heard and seen. Possibly it's head and steel could be inferior or not to the ABUS. Same for the hexagonal shape and same for the link size.
I just had my bike stolen using the kriptonite Evolution chain. They cut it silently with a hydraulic bolt cutter while it was chained to my RV. I was asleep inside.
Bolt cutters that fit in a backpack, including folding models, could be a logical benchmark test. I mean in industry some are enormous and I don't think many bike thieves are sauntering around town with them. If or when really large ones are used I think that's the exception that proves the rule. Unfortunately a battery powered grinder is easy to fit in a backpack, alas...
Yes good point, we now test with 42 & 24 inch cutters as standard. If 42 inch can’t cut a lock, folding cutters won’t work touch them. Really appreciate your feedback, always looking to improve our testing so if there’s anything else you’d like to see we’re all ears!
@@bikelockwikiI think the brute force hammer attack is going to come directed at where the chain enters the lock, not at the sides as shown. The force may be pinpointed with a large drift at that junction. This will open some locks. The tools are still common unlike say a Ramset or a hydraulic nut splitter and other less common tools. Also I'd suggest a prying attack at the lock chain joining with the largest crowbars (used in pairs) that will fit. Sure there are other attack vectors like cold and drilling with special bits but I worry less about those. Trying better hacksaw blades is easy enough but most are using hardened chains and locks nowadays. It's easy to do though, the test I mean. Other than a few exceptional U type locks one has to accept grinder vulnerability with chains so I find myself more interested in the things I've mentioned especially brute Force applied at the lock chain junction. Prying is a lot quieter than hammering but both involve common tools, more common than giant bolt cutters and battery powered grinders. Battery powered drills are quite common though and maybe that's a worthy test with special bits? There's always something more like jacks...for some locks, situations... Some are resorting to chains like you tested and grinder resistant U locks as well... It's a rather sad arms race...
Hi @BikeLockWiki, great video. 😊👍 1) Which type of 1.2 mm grinding disc did you use? 2) Which ankle grinder did you use? 3) Can you test Abus GRANIT Super Extreme 2500?
People nowadays use angle grinders. Especially in the UK from what I've seen. The question is only if manganese steel is better or the hardened steel Abus uses on its chains. Anything can be cut nowadays. I think the only thing you can do is assure that they at least need power tools to do so.
Yup, angle grinders are very common with high-end bike theft these days, hence the release of several new grinder-resistant locks. We'll be reviewing these shortly, so stay tuned!
@@Jose-sy1jeYou’re right, the tech is very expensive at the moment and not everyone can afford a lock so expensive. If you’re worried about angle grinders, using two high-security cheaper locks is a great way to deter thieves from targeting your bike. Ideally two different locks - chain & U lock.
Having the lock high away from the ground prevents thieves from using the ground as leverage when using bolt cutters. So unless they used an angle grinder, they'd struggle here. What tool were you thinking of using?
@@Doc.Holiday We're getting hold of a hydraulic bolt cutter for our next review to see how much of a threat these really are, as it seems like people are becoming increasingly worried about them. Thinking like a thief is a great idea. Critiquing the bicycle security of other cyclists is also a great way to stay on top of yours.
It's hard for me to say since I'm unsure of the bike's geometry and frame size. Your best bet is to cut a 110cm piece of string and thread it through your frame and front wheel and a bike rack/another immovable object and see if that's long enough. If not, go 140!
"better" is ultimately subjective and will depend upon your circumstances (what you're locking, how long for, where you're locking etc.) However, if it were my choice, as stated in the review, I'd go for the Viking. I would like to see Seatylock address the loose sheath issue though, as I wasn't impressed by that.
Esas cadenas de acero deben Hacerlo con alarma ,allí sería intocable las cadenas por los ladrones ,o con cubierta tapa entrada de llave de acero antiladrones, solo se puede habrir por el propietario
Reduce their environmental impact? Theyre a freakin bike lock company 🤦🏻♂️ you might as well be blocking ambulances with just stop oil get out of here with that BS
Good question! Many cyclists do wrap their chain around their bikes to transport them. However, this can gradually cause damage to the bike or its components and may end up ruining the paintwork. If your bike is inexpensive and you don't mind about it getting worn over time, this shouldn't be an issue. But if you ride an expensive bike, you'll normally be better off carrying chains in a backpack. Hope this helps.
If you could test the Hiplok Gold chain and/or the Kryptonite Evolution Series 4 chain. I feel like these 4 are the most intersting in the market at this time for still being portable.
