Secrets of Nintendo Rumble | Punching Weight [SSFF] 

"it's 2020 and we're just getting started" If you only knew the POWER of that statement

Object : rumbles Emersion : wait that's illegal

13:37 Stop Skeletons From Snacking.

Sounds like one of Nintendo's innovations with partnering up with Immersion is the whole "not getting lawsuited over it" part :P

14:20 "2020's just getting started"...yeah, that phrase has not aged gracefully...

The fact that WarioWare: Twisted can be used as a rumble pak just BLEW MY MIND. I had bought a DS rumble pak separately but I didn't like it because it was too intense. I'm excited to hear that the Twisted pak is less so.

I remember when the N64 Rumble Pak came out with “Starfox 64”. Since I had had an NES and SNES, my mom got me an N64 when I was in high school. I remember being blown away by the Rumble Pak with “GoldenEye”! Rumble is standard now but it was just this crazy immersive experience back then.

Mario Kart 8's HD rumble does the coin collecting noise on the controller when you get them. Blew my freaking mind when I noticed. Also it's a different chime when it's rupees.

My aunt told me that when i was a kid and i got a controller with rumble functions she went to my house and stood up all night playing She never was that much into games either, she just was so amazed she got hooked up

NEET - short for 'Not in Education, Employment or Training' and is used to describe people who are lazy/do not want to work. It was first mentioned in Japan in 2004 by social psychologists and quickly spread out with the release of the books written about NEETs

Btw, that Lumines rumble is kinda crazy, I started it up with rumble set on high and I swear my hands were going to fall off.

A really really REALLY awesome Easter egg with HD Rumble is in Kirby Star Allies. Once you have beaten the game and unlocked the final FINAL level. When you reach the end of the level and initiate a certain sequence (you know) you can actually listen to the Joycons and it will play the Kirby theme, and it's really damn cool! I had goosebumps the whole level and only to realize my Joycons were emitting a small tune, I had to replay the level to truly listen to it and it seriously made me cry from nostalgia.

NEET stands for "Not in Education, Employment, or Training" and is often used to insult people. Not sure if they named that snack box because it's "neat" as you say, or if they're directly stating their target audience. XD

[SPOILER ALERT!] Best use of HD rumble: the Kirby theme song rumbled at the end of Kirby Star Allies. It was so good it almost made me cry [/SPOILERS]

The best use of the HD rumble on the Switch is Senran Kagura: Reflections

The use of HD Rumble in Golf Story must be experienced to be appreciated. They even managed to create some funny sound effects coming out of the controller, to compliment what's happening on the screen!

The best part of all this is EASILY the tangents. Their honesty is refreshing.

Fun fact about the Gameboy Player logo: the software on the GameCube actually uses this screen to detect if it needs to poll the game to communicate GameCube controller support - and the polling is pretty much the GameCube pressing a load of buttons super rapidly (including impossible buttons like Left+Right at the same time)

10:32 and what about Microsoft deciding to put haptic feedback in the triggers?

I love Grace's additions to the show. Also snack time with Derek is pretty rad

I remember when Nintendo showed off the Switch for the first time and then started talking in depth about the "HD Rumble" and everyone rolled their eyes, expecting the Switch to be the end of consoles for Nintendo. Then HD Rumble was awesome and so was the Switch soooo

9:41 I wonder if we're so old and it's been long enough, a little over 18 years so older than some watchers here, that maybe gamers might not get this reference but that's for real a thing that happened. There was a (awesome if you're into EDM and club music) game called Rez that, when it first came out on PS2, had a "trance vibrator" that you were SUPPOSED to put in your pocket or wrist or sit on top of. And when the pretty ladies OF LEGAL AGE SO NOT KIDS (my disclaimer) in the audience discovered that sitting on it did... stuff to them, they started using it for other means than what it was intended for. If anyone is curious, you can google around information about it or read Wired's piece on it for the 15th anniversary of the device. www.wired.com/2017/01/rez-vibrator-womens-sexuality/

The Xbox One actually did do something unique with rumble; they put small rumble motors in each trigger to create "Impulse triggers," working in addition to the standard rumble motors in the handles. They rumble with the rest of the controller normally as well, but developers could also choose to support the feature by specifically activating the Impulse Triggers independently, like during gunfire or driving sequences

That feeling of still owning an original Sixaxis PS3 controller. I never knew a difference until now when I hold my Dualshock 3 controller.

Important, life changing information for you Ninfriendos! You can easily mod the Rumble Pak to work without batteries, it's a super easy first soldering project. You don't need any material besides a soldering iron and some solder.

Don't sleep on HD rumble, I've seen some indies really make their games stand out, the one mini-game in Mario Party is amazing at highlighting the true extent of HD rumble and the secret Kirby song will probably startle you and leave you wondering if you imagined it

The haptic feedback on the Switch is amazing. I've been playing Xenoblade Chronicles 2, and the rumble compliments stuff like when you're doing skillchecks; if you succeed, the rumbles *feel* like a happy little "*ding*~!", but the "failure" rumbles feel dissonant in a very specific way. It's not just vibrations, they get a lot of specific moods out of how those Joycons rumble. There's another GBC cart that had rumble in it: Rhino Rampage! I remember Tips And Tricks Magazine once talking about the challenges in collecting it; it came packed with a free AAA battery for its built-in rumble feature, but over time the batteries started leaking. So collectors had to choose between opening their copies and taking out the battery, lessening the MIB value to keep it from getting drastically worse, or leaving the battery in and praying the game didn't get *too* badly damaged by the battery leak. I love Derek and Grace, these videos are so fun!

13:39 Stop Derek From Snacking

You're videos are always a delight Mr. Fighting, Stop S. F. Thank your effort and hard work.

The steam controller had the hd rumble before the switch even launched

He never said "ARE YOU READY TO RUMMMMMBBBLLLLEEE!!!!!" smh

Both you and Grace have such good delivery and banter. Love having you guys talking about all the ridiculous history and ambition of the world of gaming.

If remember the lack of rumble and when Sony claimed it was last gen.

I have two original ps3 controllers and i hate them lol

The joy cons can actually make different sounds with the HD rumble

Getting TB flashbacks from the "ad". Loved those videos where Genna forced him through snacks he mostly hated xD. RIP Biscuit!

Love this series. You’re the man.

Haptic feedback was also used in the Steam Controller to make it create virtual track ball feedback and other odd things but it's never used in games with special programing like Nintendo does. Rumble on Switch is good in some pinball games too though some pinball games have really lazy rumble.

MAAAAAAAAAAAN I didn't know the gameboyplayer logo functionality thing! I just thought it was a brand logo when I was a kid and never made the association! Thanks for the wonderful content SSFF! I love you Derek and Grace!

SSFF has released a video! My day has automatically improved

Honestly. All the rumbles feel the same

Yo Derek, I just found your channel! I am an old fan of you and Calvin from back in the "The Power of Science Is Staggering" and "Zoom Zoom Internet days". I loved all of your work and podcasts and would even sometimes catch one of your streams every now and then. You guys got me through some really tough times in high school and every time you would post a new podcast or album, it brought a little bit of light into those days when I really needed it. And then when you guys made Scoops the Robot, I could really tell and feel proud in how you guys improved your craft and matured. And it kept going from there. IDK where I am going with this, but I just wanted to share a little love and am very happy to have found your channel! Easy sub. See you around! :)

"2020 is just getting started" Unkie Derek

damn you were spot on! PS5 DualSense has an HD rumble!

The videos just keep getting better! Great job derek and grace

Very happy to see another video. I was legitimately worried the channel was disappearing this year after the video in September. You guys are great!

The main use I ever had out of the rumble pak involved the hidden locations in Ocarina of Time that you could find by putting a bomb on top of areas where the controller was vibrating. It was mostly just for small rewards though.

Gonna watch this video a couple of times to get as many ads as possible. Thank you for the upload, guys!

Completely unrelated to anything in this video, I LOVE that a music clip from Tomba made it into this video around minute 4. Thanks for the video Derek,Grace, and crew!

I love you guys. I never knew your channel existed until a couple months ago and I just love it. Make a Patreon tier where I can go grab a beer with you two.

love your vids. Brings back so many memories for this 38 year old guy

I had no idea about the rumble patent lawsuits, guess this video really SHOOK my perspective about rumble features in video games!

It is badass in Lumines on Switch. With the music being so key to the gameplay, it's crazy that you can actually play with the console on Mute, but the vibration gives you a genuine feel for the music playing. Crazy and so impressive.

Great video. I had pokemon pinball when I was a kid and it was one of my go to GBC games when I just wanted to zone out after school. It had a really neat catching mechanic that was addictively fun.

Opening my N64 and copy of Lylat Wars, which came in a weirdly massive box if I remember right, is one of my favourite Christmas memories

This series represents everything I love about Nintendo and has become a favorite channel to watch the vids are varry informative thank you

Y'all are the best, informative and fun

Talks about sponsorship : ABSOLUTELY SLAYS EVERY PRODUCT IN IT. Hah I love your videos man xD

I'm so glad they talked about rumble features via the Gamecube Gameboy Player. I've always found it interesting that Nintendo has three different pinball games on three different systems that all have rumble options. Oh, Derek didn't know about that? *smug smile* "And you can use Warioware Twisted as a DS rumble cartridge!" WHAAAAAT? REAAAALY? I had no idea, but I can't wait to try it, lol.

It’s always a good day when SSFF uploads.

The amount of Tomba music featured in these videos warms the heart

"Yeah, It Should Of Had A Lovely Lady Lump On That Goal." Me: Dead! 😂💀

Shout out to Sega's Outrun at the arcade, my first experience with rumble. That machine would produce a low level earthquake when you crashed or drove off the road! Good times

Best use of HD Rumble was in Kirby Star Allies, they somehow used HD RUMBLE to make the controllers to play Kirby's theme.....MAGIC

NEET snacks? Do they have chicken tendies?

I wasnt ready for this to become a mukbang video, Derek Great vid ad always :)

1:38 that moment when you realize the two of you have LITERALLT EVERYTHING IN COMMON

That whole thing about "making portable games bulky," honestly kind of makes sense to me, because I've never seen someone pull a GameBoy or a DS out of their pocket, raw. There's always been some kind of protective case with room for other games

I vividly remember Sony making the bogus claim that since the SIXAXIS was all about those gyro motion controls, you would never want that vibration interfering with the movement, plus being overall dismissive of everyone who missed the feature, until the moment they brought it back.

Aged well. They made a big deal about PS5's HD rumble.

Damnit Derek! I never click on the bell for anything, but that rumble the bell bit gave me a dumb smile. Bell has officially been rumbled on my end

Keep up the good work Derek and Grace

Literally have my Rumble Pak of 20 years right here in my hand

That Star Fox promo from Nintendo Power was the best. "Peter!? You didn't tell them about... the *Rumble Pak* did you?" "No... Bob. _You_ just did!"

Long time watcher, first time commenter. I love the channel, & everything you guys do, but what I really want to say is that this is the first time I've seen someone really make the sponsored content look cool & natural! Normally I skip right past the sponsored parts, but Derek really makes me feel like he's giving his honest opinion about the snack pack, instead of just telling me it's good even if he feels it's really mediocre. Any sponsors reading this should totally endorse this channel! Great content, great hosts, it's a no-brainer! Keep up the good work, y'all!!

I want a series where Derek & Grace just review snacks from around the world!

I remember no rumble in PS3 controllers back around 2007 or so. I also remember shelling out extra money for a Japanese DualShock 3 at Anime Boston one year. This was about 6-8 months before the DS3 came Stateside. Feeling rumble in Resistance: Fall of Man was just so...right. But it wasn’t just that. The weight felt right, too. The DualShock 3 didn’t feel like it would crumble in my hands like the Sixaxis did.

The Trigger Rumble in the XboxOne controller and the haptic feedback of the SteamController would have been nice.Maybe in some form of follow up

Fun fact. The N64 Rumble Pak can work without batteries by bridging a few pins. Nintendo made batteries a requirement because they worried 4 Rumble Paks could short the N64

Best use of HD rumble for me is Pinball FX3, you can feel the ball bounce on each flipper. One of the few games I opted to get on the Switch rather than pc. It also lets you play the game in handheld portrait mode which is fantastic for pinball.

love the mini snack review at the end hahaha! :)

i noticed the other night playing luigi's mansion 3 that they use the HD rumble to make the joyons make sound effects whenever you suck something up. you can usually tell what kind of object you've picked up too

Final Fantasy X HD has amazing HD Rumble. When Yuna summons, the rumble is customized to each Aeon. It’s turned off by default…

I kinda like that the HD Rumble makes a charge-up sound when you get a Final Smash ready in Smash Ultimate.

7:10 ahhhh I love the Mario Artist music...

yo props to shelby! i don't know what you did but clearly it was something good!

My personal N64 Rumble Pak is the Quake Pak Super. It has 2 level of Rumble intensity and a built in memory pak with 4 slots.

The HD rumble in Tumbleseed is amazing. You can feel the Seed rolling around. The game is ridiculously hard, though, even with the patch.

For a while, I had a rumble attachment for my GBC called (if memory serves) the Rock'n'Shock. It also functioned as a rechargable battery pack and stereo speakers. It vibrated with every sound made by a game- including the music. In addition, you could plug headphones into the unit, but sound would still be played by the external speakers. The thing was the best kind of jank. I fuckin' loved it.

The about of haptic feedback possible now is phenomenal when you take into account that a good portion of games are natively mixed in a minimum of 5.1/7.1 channels with quite a few being natively encoded in 7.1.4 Atmos channels. With the .1 LFE channel in addition to sending all 120hz and below content (you can adjust the LPF filter on your AVR or pre/pro but the bandwidth is widely accepted as 10hz-120hz) all you need to add is a bass shaker or actuator powered by its own power amplifier and soon you’ll be feeling tactile feedback down to 10hz. It’s exponentially cheaper than buying subwoofers that are capable of meaningful output into the subsonic region as many companies make frequency response claims but these are done in either anechoic or semi anechoic chambers and exponentially different in each individual small room they’re placed in. I mean for $200 you can get a Buttkicker Gamer complete with the bass shaker and power amp or for around $400 you can get the larger LFE unit with a power amp. For comparison in terms of retail prices you won’t find a subwoofer that has 85-95dB output down past 15hz for below $1000 and at that point SVS and HSU are your only option unless you take into account DIY subs but that’s a whole different wormhole. I run two Buttkicker LFE’s paired with 4 SVS SB16 Ultra’s all controlled by a pair of MiniDSP 2x4HD’s and the low frequency tactile feedback is absolutely amazing. While quite expensive for the entire setup, and that’s not including the 16 channel Storm Audio processor, speakers, power amps, cables, UMIK-1 USB calibration microphone and the countless hours I’ve spent calibrating it all, it provides an assault on the senses that just simply wasn’t possible using the older native two channel PCM gaming sources.

I found the snack eating oddly comforting. I DEMAND MORE SNACK EATING! Stop Skeletons From Snacking.

Finally able to watch this in my new stop skeletons from fighting shirt ☺️

XB1 put vibration in the triggers, now the ps5 controller will have that feature too. Its only really useful in racing games cause it helps you feel the car sliding but still can't say the xbox 1 didn't do much for rumble if sony and microsoft are gonna use the feature going forward.

I got so scared by the Psychomantys trick that I ran off my room screaming when he did that (it was my first experience with rumble controllers xD)

"Rumble The Bell And Wrestle The Thumb." That should be a new thing for only SSFF! 😄😁👍

Golf Story's use of the HD Rumble really was fantastic. Probably the most fun use of it I've seen on the Switch, even getting it to make little sound effects like the ball falling in a hole. I don't really think I've played any games that used it better, honestly (Haven't played 1-2 Switch, as it just seems like an expensive tech demo). Does anyone know of any other interesting uses not mentioned in the video?

I played Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon on my switch in handheld mode and the rumble was INTENSE! Especially for the twin dragon fight, whenever they roared, it would vibrate the controller so much, you can hear the little metal rails in the controller ringing. And Lumines does the same thing, but it kinda adds to the music and I like it.

I still have my original no-rumble Sixaxis that I used to use with my desktop and laptop, though the controller stopped working about a month ago.

I remember the Sixaxis controller. It would lose connection randomly, sometimes in the middle of a jump and they tried blaming it on people dropping the controller.

The best use of the switches HD rumble is in a Kirby game. You head to a secret area and it'll play the Kirby theme using the controllers rumble