Seeing How the Top Goldlewis Player Deals With His Hardest Match-up | Darkrai vs. Happy Chaos 

Holy fuck dude this is great

😂😂 godlike

Can you tell me the site where you can look at the stats? Thanks

Every single serious fighting game player is a man say HE

@@botero01 imagine saying this in a community where deb exists lmao

@@botero01 bruh what year are you even living in? Go back to 1856

I am not even sure if he was being sarcastic

This is a great perspective, and I agree. My secondary is GL, so this is advice I'll take into account too.

Very much so since Goldlewis and Potemkin both can't pressure a happy chaos as freely as say Chip, Millia, or I-No. I don't think Happy Chaos is busted, just probably overtuned for the cast. Frankly I'd like to see some of the characters get some more difficult combos and longer ones too.

You can just dodge HC

You had me at first...

Hes not broken or anything, hes just very good and extremely boring

Weeelllcome to scrubquotes.

I'm just a man people, and sometimes men turn into scrubs

Thinking the same... possibly based on Security Level to balance the duration or something like that

Arc system must be smoking some good shit if they think this is balance

half of the celestial pnw lobby is happy chaos players and I primarily play goldlewis, save me ;(

holy shit is that popular twitter artist and vtuber moodypresence

So you pick the zoner to generalise Strives gameplay. You haters really are funny. Also stop ridiculing Daisuke.

"The zoner is annoying to fight" In other news, the sky is blue.

this is literally describing playing against johnny in xrd

@@absoul112 HC doesn't really play like a Zoner. Zoners have to pick between covering the air or covering the ground. For HC those are both the same option.

@@absoul112 zoners doing chip damage as a main source of damage. LOL

I don’t know about less accessible, if each one had a different name it probably would make it easier to remember what each one does tbh, instead I just have to assign frame data to numpad notation in my head.

In this Behemoth Typhoon, we don’t have the time to name it, so just label it with the motion. Or do it yourself lol

@@YaBoiBigSmoke147 They don’t have individual names but most of them can be referred to pretty easily without saying the numpad notation. Fast overhead, slow overhead, side switch, etc.

Because bird hits pot without aiming/jumping and honestly fuck pot players lol

if testament was able to hit grounded opponents with the crow they would be able to loop stain over and over until they have full meter. no excuse for HC since he is obviously not working as the devs intended, but it is good design that testament has to work towards getting stains I think

@@veravera6571 How do you know happy chaos isn't working as the devs intended?

@@davidburke4101 The whole focus shot zoning seems like an unintended thing that the players just did. They were probably aware it was a thing, but didn't think it would be as big as it became.

@@Goomenstein you think people at arcsys with 20 years designing characters didn't try to use his tools at fullscreens and zone with it? That doesn't even sound like it makes sense.

Does he have a channel?

@@floraphore I'd also like to know, please let me know if you find out!

the proplem that reload focus and steady aim all three give meter that why he gets too much

walk at him, after you get your bar from walking forward you can to do stuff like stroke rc or fbrc stroke. But yeah definitely tough on her due to how her movement works

The best scenario for I-no is HC goofing, really.

Maybe, but I don't think this would change the matchup at all. Chaos already dies in two combos, and Goldlewis still getting shot to death in the corner. Maybe just lower the fire rate on the gun, so more of Chaos's mid range footsies comes into play. I think it might be more interesting.

@@_sticks311 I don't want to change the matchup. I want more room for a different type of skill and greater variation in gameplay strategies.

I think if you can make a match more fair without making others less fair or compromising on either character's identity or fun factor, then you should do it. I think everyone would agree with this. The next question is "how imbalanced is too imbalanced?" and then "how much are you willing to sacrifice to improve balance?" Everyone is going to have different opinions on these and that's fine. We're not gonna come up with a definitive answer. The best we can do is have fun with the thought exercise of solving these problems as best we can. So is GO v HA too imba? Idk tbh lol I don't play enough

While it should never be REQUIRED to swap characters for a matchup, a world where all characters are equally capable of performing in every matchup would be a boring world indeed. Infiltration vs PR at EVO 2013 comes to mind. So far Strive has been great for most characters, aside from the classically one-sided matchup, zoners (Happy Chaos / Axl) vs grapplers and big characters. Though even here it’s much better off than its contemporaries like SFV, where Zaingeif lives and dies based off of niche matchup knowledge against any character with solid projectile play. Personally I’m a firm believer that HC should be balanced to encourage more close ranged play - he has some sick combos that you just never see because they’re always full screen - which would likely cure these matchup hiccups. Though I’m not sure how Arcsys would go about doing this without reworking the character.

Not saying happy chaos is unbeatable , just saying that we dont find this game fun when happy chaos is on the field

You want them to suffer more lmao?

i dont understand people who say "if you think X is fucked up clearly you havent played Y" im not trying to catch a more fucked up zoner bro sorry for your loss

@@oddyw3422 I can sort of see what you mean, but it's more just that I feel people take stuff like HC zoning so far out of context and call it the most BS thing in the world when it's not even that bad. I might of been able to phrase it better, but I am just a bit tired of people calling it BS and complaining about it when it's not the be all and end of zoning. It's deferentially very strong but it's not the simple just win button that people make it out to be.

@@chromulus2225 painful part it is really bs. Amount of meter gain happy chaos gets from just zoning while the other opponent gets little meter gain. Man can get full focus again with 1 bar and pop off with curse if he has it. Most of the top tiers have tuff time getting in except for Ram and maybe May. Fast characters as well. Happy chaos makes u sit there and it’s not fun for you unless he makes a mistake. If happy chaos gets curse, it is so hard to freaking win.

@@chromulus2225 yeah it's true that happy chaos isn't the most broken thing since buttered toast but it's fine to complain especially since the fullscreen steady aim zoning isn't impressively fun to fight against for just about anyone let alone characters like i-no and nago who cant get in without gimmicky meter options. it might not be a "just win" option but happy chaos' win conditions are very easy to fulfill compared to the rest of the strive cast

Laser kind of sucks; most of the cast has a way to avoid it, and you're burning double resources. Good in positive since you can make the meter back pretty quickly. But you usually want that Security to get out a level 3 drone or get the good Skyfish knockdown.

You want knockdown to have an opening to reload once they're too close to do it safely, and you also don't want to be too predictable

I assume that is becouse close to GL you can just jab the typhons since they are all at least 20f startup iirc. So is actually you denying a lot of GL pressure just by being at jab range. I might be wrong thou

@@affegpus4195 GL has faster typhoons and it also depends on what button you cancel the BT from. GL can frametrap you pretty hard if you just mash.

because if people listened to what actual top players were saying about the character it'd be common knowledge that he can't just sit back and zone the whole match and actually has to put in some work to get and maintain those resources. Granted he builds too much meter so its too easy for him to bypass commitment but still. He's not ivan fuckin ooze.

@@PakuTheMagnificent literally my 1 true gripe with hc as someone who plays him is super focus applied to zoning stitching normal focus gaps shut tight stealing the opponent's turn away and how steady aim can build into that. It's just fucked up

You can literally read the url bruh

That's one of the scary things about him though. If they know what they're doing, he's dangerous at any range.

Playing up close and pressuring people is actually what I find fun about Happy Chaos. Which is why I'm pretty confident that even if they nerf him, I'll still be happy playing him, since what they're most likely to hit is his zoning. (Or, I hope, guard crush as a mechanic, since I really dislike that on basically everyone that has it, and Chaos just gets arguably the most out of because his attack with it is ranged and tracking.)

You know you can just have a pocket potemkin and have free wins in tourneys against HC right?

Can’t tell if this is high iq lifejam bait

@@affegpus4195 you do know that Pot vs HC is a 5-5 MU right? There’s no free wins there

@@KingAfrica4 is still his worse matchup ;)

@@affegpus4195 I think most people's pocket Pot would lose to a good HC main tbh. slide head invalidates his long range game but you still need a lot of discipline to win mid

Ram exist :)))))))))))

Lex Luther vs Zod...

@vaLy sometimes when a good player appears yes

this but unironically

As a happy chaos player, he needs to be nerfed. Chaos can reload 3 bullets after a guard crush shot and still be like +4, he can whiff his normals with no consequence because he can do gunshot after any normal, his zoning is extremely polarizing and should not be as powerful as it is for how little effort it takes beyond learning how to mechanically do it. I really like playing him but going against him is just awful and he really does need major changes.

@@vonflare4709 I'm kidding, Happy is fine and fun! As a Faust main, I think characters should get little nerfs if not none and focus on buffing their kits and main useful tools, with the occasional buffing of lesser moves.... But buffing what a character is good at is better than nerfing what a character is good at! Nerfing is simply a cycle of one character passing the "broken/OP" torch to the next character that players find to better even better after that previous character is nerfed hard.... So the easy way to break that cycle is give out more torches with varying degrees of flames but torches none the less... nerfing Happy Chaos and Giovanna etc would just mean that Sol and whoever else will be broken, and then we'll start this dance again endlessly! How about not? ._.

@@DANCERcow "you can't nerf the best character because then a different character will be the best!" seriously?

@@vonflare4709 yes, that is literally how it always works! In every fighting game, fps, Yu-Gi-Oh even .... When when good character is nerfed enough then another will take their place! Because we as humans when it comes to most things in life, work gaming etc will always look for the best way to do things, the most effective and efficient methods to succeed!

Not only can you FD once to negate the high low mixup (because both low BTs won't reach), but you can interrupt all of the BTs that are plus on block, only the 2 fastest ones that are negative can't be interrupted. People say he's bad because he has polarizing match-ups, not because the character itself is bad, even when he does have strong weaknesses. And I don't know about mixing you up from full screen, lol. If your issue is getting hit by the long range overhead BT, know that a long won't hit you at that range, lmao. Say, if he was closer and actually did a high-low mixup, it's the same as before, you can interrupt it, backdash it, FD it, and even throw it if he's close enough. And just to finish, not everyone is able to do the stuff Darkrai does, doing 684H while in neutral isn't free, it's obviously not hard if you're good, but implying that every Goldlewis that you fight will play like this, is like thinking every HC player can do his 3F link combos and chain guard crush shots endlessly. Just learn the match-up.

I think they could add an extra couple frames to the end of the cancel animation and it would help. It would be a nerf for sure and they might need to tweak some things but I think it would help

shut up fate fan you love ugly characters