Sega CD Model 1 VS Model 2 which is better? 

Model 2 actually sounds better than Model 1, but due faulty hardware design, it sounds worse.

@@alexkubrat3868 so, it doesn't actually sound better than Model 1

@@binguloid depends on what you are using. You can mod the model 2 so it could sound better, or buy a diffrent model like the CDX or the JVC X'eye model.

my exp, if your going to recap due to a few caps that may need swapped, use audio grade caps, mostly because in my exp, they are FAR less failure prone, they cost a bit more, but, i have recapped all sorts of things and the only caps that failed were failing due to other components on the way out, actually saving the rest of teh system by failing... and your not wrong... i have recapped things that LOOKED fine but, i could tell the caps used were knockoffs that WOULD fail, i spent countless hours working for a place that recapped/repaired products for sharp, hp and a few other vendors back during that period... it was so bad they had us doing it as well as shipping cargo containers to the philipins for recapping, also had a rash of bad inductors and coils around that time in a very narrow range of values from multi vendors... but the caps were the main issue, gods so many bad caps.. the knockoffs just gave people a warning sign that... caps basedon that formula were going to have issues.. the thing that annoys me most with RoHS is zero lead solder.. i have just replaced the stock solder on a good number of devices and perm repaired the, because the leaded solder was more resilient then the lead free solder used... look at louis rossman videos talking about replacing the horrible solder apple uses during some of his repair videos.. you need to watch what you buy with components in general, stick when possible to well known vendors, and research what your going to order... my exp is enthusiast communities often have alot more useful info on what to use and what to avoid then official numbers you can track down... its far easier ot hide failure rates then one may think... sort of like how they still pretend that the return of the jedi never made a profit..LOL..

@@AshenTech Last month I just had to buy a used washer/dryer set due to my mother’s dementia (long story) and wasted a week due to lead free solder on the dryer’s control board. A 240v relay had worked its way off the PCB due to brittle lead-free solder. Previous owner described it as “like new.”

@@emmettturner9452 outside the need for fresh solder.. and yeah dont get me started, i got a buddy whos thinking of starting a business in his semi-remote location just rebuilding things that fail due enlarge, to lead free solder, as hes collected enough equipment to train some people up to help, and has a daughter whos better with fine solder work then anybody i have seen... just.. genuinely amazing at it.. seen her repair stuff that was beyond even shops with better equipment, her father likens it to how people would bring me computers other shops claimed not to be worth fixing and... i would figure out the issue and fix it... often just using stuff i had around/salvaged and repaired... electronics as well... once had a guys father give me a very expensive head unit with proper surround sound support, because the hdmi audio failed.. was a known flaw where 2 things were put in backwards and would burn out over time due to said error, i swapped them with ones i salavged out of something else and when he came over and saw it working... he paid me what buying a refurbished one would cost AND gave me the full 5.1 theater in a box he bought that was actually.. pretty nice..but.. not as high end as that head unit... when i calculated the parts cost..12cents.... LOL also got a laptop because the lead free solder had seperated on the power port.. not damaging the pads at all it just fractured and separated.. my mothers friend is still using that laptop now... i just removed all the crap solder and used some heavy duty solder i had been gifted.. that things never given a problem since.... but the solder used by default was why those had such a horrible rep.. the revised model removed part of the pcb and hooked the port in via wires to the pcb since they couldnt use proper solder.... honestly.. things need to be made user servicable/repairable like they were back in the day.. diagrams on the inside of the panels and such... and most people i know would be more then willing to pay extra for something thats going to last vs throw away trash..

both work, my exp has been more laser issues with the rev2, more cap issues with the rev1, tho removing and replacing surface mount caps of this style is NOT HARD, infact, you dont need to use surface mouth caps to repolace them.. just crimp the dead caps off the pcb, solder the new ones to the posts/ sticking up... also makes re-re-capping easier... i also strongly recommend using audio grade caps simply because they fail less often in my exp, and, you can use over spec caps, this tends to actually lead to better results in alot of cases.. so if you cant get the exact value, one rated higher is fine, lower is not.. honestly these are all neat, when it came to repairs... we found the ver1 easier to work on/repair, the ver2.. dont get me started.. and the cdx is cool but, genuinely are a PITA to recap, i got a friend whos daughter does it whenver she can get a dead cdx for a reasonable price, as 99% of the time a full recap and the things become fully functional, im also told if you know what old cd players to source from you can replace the whole cd read portion if the laser fails, as the module was not custom for sega but something they sourced from another vendor... i would have to pester her for the info but, she buys specific old optical drives and devices just for this kinda thing... as most times she dosnt even have to calibrate the laser it just works... i gather a couple old external cd-r drives are actually the best source as they have the same assembly and connections but the lasers are much higher quality being designed to burn, and rarely were used much, so they tend to not fail once you do that swap even reading burned disk isnt an issue, the laser was desinged for that... (why dreamcasts tend to die.. lasers burned out from over stress reading burned disks, thermal cam vid i saw years ago showed how much harder the laser had towork for the average burned disk and it wasnt good.... no wonder they would stop reading disks...

Model 2 is the way to go! However most of the time when you find one it'll have a blown fuse or the spindle will be pushed down.

Needs a belt 😁 or of the belt was replaced then the drive system in the tray needs to be brought back to a neutral point so the switches can be activated.

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Yes the revisions are VA1, 1.5, 1.8 these are all the same and have that scratchy audio. Then you have VA2 and 2.3 these actually use the Yamaha FM chip found in the first Genesis VA6.8 and earlier. But the FM audio is messed up lol. The notes are off and it sounds like an emulator kinda. Then you have the best versions the VA3 and 4. These have perfect audio with clean sound. So actually there's 7 revisions of the model 2 haha. The rarest of em all is the VA2 and 2.3 revisions. Out of the hundreds of model 2 consoles I've come across I've only seen one of each of the VA2 and 2.3 consoles. They're a little heavier then those others actually but they just have weird audio. Video wise all the model 2 consoles are about the same. Some have more vivid colors then others and some have slightly sharper picture quality.

I always rebuilt the PSU's. The caps and resistors are cheap enough.

I've only had a handful of bad Sega adapters actually, but I've had a bunch of bad SNES adapters! With those it seems the transformers actually fail since the voltage on a bad one will be about 6 volts or so with no load while a good one will be at 12 volts or so with no load.

model 1 was superior and deep down you know it,its cause you had the 2nd model and are coping hard af

I would think maybe your caps are bad?

I like that game. Its not bad.

The BOIS screen as in the SCD splash screen when you first turn it on?

@@RobertNES816 yes.

@@ajtstvandmusicarchivechann1585 clean the contacts on the Genesis. Look for my video on cleaning cartridges. DO NOT use Windex or metal polish!

As suggested, clean the bus connection between the Genesis and Sega CD units. The shield plates between the Genesis and Sega CD should be used, especially as the shield plates also helps to link both the Genesis and Sega CD units to a single electrical ground. You may want to check the condition of the RESET button on the Genesis unit itself. If the button is flaky, it might trigger a reset without pressing it. This may not be likely, however, if this is happening with only two games out of how many you've played without problems. You may also want to check that the Sega CD's save game RAM is formatted. Some Sega CD games may behave erratically or even crash if the same game RAM isn't formatted. The save game RAM can lose its formatting if the Sega CD's internal rechargeable battery loses power, so you may want to check that the Sega CD is keeping the RAM formatted when the system is off. If the save game RAM isn't holding the formatting when it's off, then try to charge the Sega CD's internal battery by leaving it on for several hours. If the RAM still won't hold the formatting, then it may be time to replace the battery. Battery replacement is a job that requires soldering and should only be done by someone who knows what he/she is doing if you don't want to damage the board and its components.

Yes you're completely right! I also own that version Genesis and it is superior even to the HDG model 1 I have that came with Sonic 1 and 2 when was new. I prefer the model 2 looks newer and still looks good even today and works with modern HD adaptors to show crisp sound and picture on newer tv's

Yup absolutely. Sega originally bundled the model 2 sega CD with and extension piece to fit under the model 1 genesis. As for the model 2 Genesis and the model 1 sega CD it'll work to but the whole setup will look goofy.

@@RobertNES816 Ok that is great. Also, would a model 1 Genesis or 2 AC adapter work with the model 2 Sega CD? I bought an aftermarket adapter that came says Sega Genesis model 1 with my Sega CD model 2 and was wondering if that is safe to use with my Model 2 CD.

@@nensondubois just the model 1 genesis AC adapter.

@@RobertNES816 ok cool thanks! ^^

For me it was just making copies for myself. The games even when I was collecting were either non existent on the market or just too expensive or in poor condition.

Sounds like it's a hardware issue either the model 2 Genesis or SCD. The SCD combines the FM audio from the Genesis with the CD audio from the SCD itself. Try hooking up the model 1 Genesis to the scd2 to see if your problem persists.

@@RobertNES816 I did that already and it did happen. It is really weird. I tried the model 1 Genny and the Mega SG with the game on the model 2 sega cd and the music won’t play in the game. Only the sound effects. However on my Model 1 Sega cd, the game plays perfectly with both the model 1 Genny and the Mega SG. Also, every other game has worked fine on the Model 2. Just Terminator is not working and it is only the music. Very odd because the disk is pristine.

@@gametourny4ever627 So you have an issue with the Model 2 SCD then. You paid someone to fix your system so bring it back to them.

@@RobertNES816 Ok. It is just odd everything works but that one part of the game. Thank you

@@gametourny4ever627 Like I said the Genesis produces FM audio which in most cases is used in sound effects in SCD games while the music is usually CD quality audio which is handled by the audio hardware on the SCD. Both audio formats are handled by separate hardware but come from the same source.

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Yup 😎

The model 2 is more reliable and easier to fix.

Robert NES816, JVC made the JVC X’EYE system which was a Genesis and Sega CD in one unit. Those are very expensive however.

@@joshuawick5382 they're almost a Genesis and SCD in one unit. However there's a few games they're not compatible with. I don't remember which one's off hand though.

For me Model 1 only because I'm good at fixing them lol.

Thanks man. It sucks there's allot of shitty people in this hobby, most of them are just resellers looking to make a buck so they don't care. The few people who actually did come to me to get their childhood systems up and running again are what made me happy actually, knowing they'd get their original systems back in working condition was awesome. As for the Model 1 Genesis and Sega CD. I completely agree with you! I absolutely LOVE the way they look! As a kid I always drooled over the Model 1 Genesis and Sega CD when Toys R Us had the huge glass displays. It was like I NEEDED to own one haha. However the only Sega product I got back then was a Game Gear and then years later a Model 3 Genesis when one of my sister's ex's gave me all his old Genesis games. So basically 15 year old me had about 30 Genesis games to play!

you are entitled to your opinion.........even though its wrong.