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@Snowman_Productions 24 дня назад

My grandfather gave me a Seiko 5 when I was 9. It's working 38 years later. Seiko still makes great, affordable watches.

@JeffreyMcMahon Месяц назад

I saw the new Samurais at my local dealer & I prefer the new version by far. Perhaps I'd wait for a Sapphire King Samurai release.

@johnrb9397 Месяц назад

Man is that a deep rehaut. Big Aliexpress case vibes.

@EscapementWatch Месяц назад

it actually isn't DEEP its wide! I know I was tricked at first as well. The crystal bevel is partly to blame

@alcozar5905 Месяц назад

@@EscapementWatchWear can you purchase this?

@JesseLeePeterson9 Месяц назад

@@alcozar5905online or in a shop 😂

@KevinPWY-w8x Месяц назад

I go with the old design. And I hate the tiny date display.

@Bonatno Месяц назад

I love the new samurai, great improvement. I was able to handle one in Bic camera in Shibuya in early July and you just have to handle it to see the drastic improvements.

@siddhant46s54 Месяц назад

Samurai’s look so fucking hot with a ceramic bezel ! Wish the newer version had it .

@Huwberts_Emporium Месяц назад

I love it, I think it looks great but I'll wait for the "King" version.

@ccoffin1333 Месяц назад

I do like that the minute hand is longer and touches the minute markers.

@Dialandhands Месяц назад

I think they did a really great job on this newer model!! I wish they had some other colors but I’m sure those are to come.

@xueya2188 Месяц назад

Old Samurai better (except maybe the hour hand??). Solid caseback is the way though. I got the Mystic Forest Alpinist and it has a pointless Hardlex caseback. No. Bad. Wrong. I already replaced the clasp for Uncle Seiko, now looking for a solid caseback.

@matthewsalisbury4339 Месяц назад

Original samurai had more unique character. This new model looks like a greatest hits mashup. Especially with the monster dial

@kryton57 Месяц назад

I have the black dial King Sam, and agree the old one is iconic and shouldn’t be changed - look what happened to the current Arnie re-issue, binned. Some watches have a clear identify and should stay that way. If you don’t like the Samurai for its size and angles, there’s lots of other Seiko - or non Seiko - divers to choose from. Please Seiko, stop re-inventing icons and altering down thier DNA, especially with a watch like this that appears to merge several models identity.

@rudyharrifshariman5126 Месяц назад

Agree with you... Re inventing the already iconic design is not a smart move. People buy samurai because it is uniquely a samurai or else we will just opt for other model....

@wescobts Месяц назад

I have a Gen 2 and I believe I'll stay with it.

@1am1der Месяц назад

I like the new style. Smaller dimensions are great. Date window is so minimalistic.

@WATCH-4U Месяц назад

Ive only got the one Samurai the SRPH61K1 and absolutely love its chunkiness and is a beefy piece...The new smaller version does look nice and tamed down..The deep Rehaut is awesome ...Not a fan of the small date window though should of left it at the 3 o'clock position for me...I imagine this will suit the smaller wristed guys out there and will become a popular piece...Great review...

@seandavie3672 Месяц назад

I have the Blue Lagoon, and the waffle dial King version, and my only criticism was the undefined and moulded look of the case edges. If these have been sharpened up, that's a welcome improvement. I do not think I need 3, though!

Месяц назад

Hands finally reach the minute markers!

@pk1342 Месяц назад

I've always wondered what the SARX045/047 case would look like as a diver and it turns out it's great 😂

@Zotrax1946 Месяц назад

Old one for me☝🏻

@ajmarion Месяц назад

Nicely done, would love to get the red one!

@igor240898433 23 дня назад

I have tried the new version and is absolutely better in every single way except for the clasp and the crystal which are the same. Yes, design wise, it lost a bit of it's originality but I definitely prefer the looks of the new version. Now I only have to wait for the blue dial 😁

@EscapementWatch 23 дня назад

I can't wait to see a PADI version and a save the ocean version 😍

@dominicserafino6029 Месяц назад

It’s a great watch at a great price. Ticks all the boxes. I don’t care that it has the hardlex instead of Sapphire. The watch punches way above its price division. Looks great to wear casually and great with a business suit on.

@DanielD184 Месяц назад

As a bigger wristed guy, i prefer the previous samurai’s size, so I’ll unusually pass on a new Seiko release for once 😂

@ThePaintwurks 10 дней назад

The old Sammy is legendary

@sivanstar Месяц назад

the samurai case is what makes it a SAMURAI. just another boring dive watch, its time to get another older samurai.

@Mystery_Man84 Месяц назад

Really they’re not giving the customers sapphire Crystal because they’re saving it for a special version?🤣. San Martin gives sapphire crystal on ALL of their watches. And they are more affordable. Citizen as well.

@EscapementWatch Месяц назад

yeah this is just the base samurai like the one I flashed at the end in the top right when talking price

@pokie6087 Месяц назад

@Mystery_Man84 Fine Go buy a cheap Chinese knock off

@kresimirpleic Месяц назад

@@pokie6087The vast majority of Seiko watches are also Chinese made. Seiko also made countless knock offs, ripping off the designs of plenty of watch brands over the decades and they aren't cheap any more. So what is your point?

@pokie6087 Месяц назад

@@kresimirpleic My point is that Seiko are an in house brand. Yes they have factories in China and Malaysia, but these are owned by the brand. Seiko produce their own designs and is what they're divers are famous for. You Will now give examples of watches Seiko are copying. Go

@Mystery_Man84 Месяц назад

@@pokie6087 lol Citizen also gives sapphire crystal and for a more affordable price. Get off Seiko’s meat. They obviously have you brainwashed.

@etebol Месяц назад

Nope. I have the old design and the break in the case with that high polish section is iconic. No other watch has that. 41mm is too small, might as well get a Casio Marlin. And the chapter ring on the old one adds a touch of complexity to the dial. Again Seiko offering less for more. Sadly I have moved on. And probably wont buy any more.

@jay_watch Месяц назад

I prefer the new one, but that deep metallic rehaut is a no go. IMO it makes the watch look cheap in comparison 😬

@j.h.2967 Месяц назад

In my own opinion, the new "Shogu-rai" is more like a re-intepretation of the original Samurai from 2004 and a mix between the Samurai and Shogun, and I don't think that it should be considered as an upgrade, but more like a smaller alternative for people with smaller wrists. I own a black King Samurai SRPE35K1 and wear it on a black/grey "Bond" OMEGA Nato strap, and hopefully Seiko will continue working on new King Samurai's with upgraded movement and maybe consider moving the date window between 4 and 5 indicies and 6 o' clock.

Месяц назад

I was looking forward to putting my hands on the new Samurai - fan of the pvd version on rubber strap. Here I was, in Japan, anxious and building up the momentum. Seen it but still believed in it until the last second has been handed to me... What a dissapointment - it is small, wears way smaller than the old one - it is light - so light that felt like a kids watch or a Swatch collaboration. Yes, it is refined, polished, OCD-correct and will sell, most probably as a ladies option because this is how it feels like - "the samurai lady". An advice for the fans, try it physically and do not attempt to purchase it online without trying it.

@Vox-Populi Месяц назад

They also eliminated that annoying wave bump on the back!

@N3VURMYND Месяц назад

Imo, I always found the originals 'polygonal' looking case to be very dated. I purchased the Dark Manta after watching your video review on it and although I love the dial/handset/Bezel, I quickly grew tired of the case. I would love to put the Dark Manta dial in the new case and with those new hands, I think it'll look amazing!

@EscapementWatch Месяц назад

Right on!

@ElectricShadowsZone Месяц назад

Thanks for your great overview of this watch. By the way, is your Instagram link correct?

@EscapementWatch Месяц назад

oh wow thanks it is incorrect. I fixed it now!

@watchchimp3102 Месяц назад

I like the old one (I've got four). But, it's a big watch, the new size looks great. It just needs a titanium case, sapphire crystal, and a full lume ceramic bezel! 😊

@jayjayhooksch1 День назад

No sapphire, no ceramic, no bracelet screws, no quick adjust. These are becoming ubiquitous at every pricepoint and Seiko is getting left behind.

@dtroutmann Месяц назад

According to the email I got from Seiko themselves they claim it is a cross between Shogun and Samurai. Also stating it is a completely new watch call the Shog-Urai. Just saying that's directly from the company and that's how they're branding it to my knowledge the samurai has not been discontinued. In fact I just went on the Seiko website and was able to purchase Samurai, that said it looks like it's only available in a white dial or the manta ray save the ocean and will they discontinue it soon most likely depending on how this new Shog-Urai does.

@EscapementWatch Месяц назад

I've never seen this before...are you sure its not just a Seiko AD email? I just checked and I see the AD's and blog sites are calling it that nickname. But I checked Seiko watch official, and the prospex site, seiko india, and seiko uk with no mention of the nick-name. Anyways, that is a cool name.

@dtroutmann Месяц назад

@@EscapementWatch I'm on the email list for Seiko UK Sega USA and Seiko Boutique I think it was Seiko UK that sent the email Shog-Urai 4R Diver trio was actually what Seiko called them

@zmurray52 Месяц назад

Wholeheartedly agree with you, let's wait to see the kings!

@philliprackow7153 Месяц назад

Preferred the old bezel, would have enjoyed brushed ceramic. If they'll get the new movement in there with sapphire and their super-hard coating i'd love it around the price-point of the new MAS. Edit: You just reminded me of the Erebus Origin and i ordered a black one 😅

@MrGheath Месяц назад

Hear you on the 6r performing worse than the 4r. I've had many of both of I can't really say I had a bad 7s26 or 4rxx/nhxx. 6R has been hit or miss.

@GapBahnDirk Месяц назад

It's a huge improvement. I like Seiko design language, but I never warmed to the old Samurai.

@peterlarsson691 Месяц назад

Thanks for yet another great video. One of the best watch channels 😊

@EscapementWatch Месяц назад

Wow, thanks!

@mosquitojoyride Месяц назад

Despise wide rehauts. Makes it a little more difficult to read the dive bezel. Reason why i sold my CWC diver

@EscapementWatch Месяц назад

oh yeaaaa I see what your saying. I had to pick up the sammy from my desk to see what your saying. Its not terrible but I see it.

@soulbronumberone 22 дня назад

The hour and minute hands remind me of half melted butter..

@vayestrincatarg7306 15 дней назад

It looks like a Lady-Samurai, the firts Samurai it has a Unique form, like no others in Seiko Brand.

@iananderson7270 Месяц назад

Let's have an orange one

@mttqll8623 Месяц назад

I like it.

@hubsistupsi4868 Месяц назад

lets all hope for the king version of this model! 🙌 will be the best budget seiko diver then!

@fuangrat1 Месяц назад

The new version lack the characters that define "Samurai". But taste can change, i may like it some day.

@gsrossco Месяц назад

Is it a new Samurai, or just a new model with the old Samurai still in production?

@AmcoAutoGlass Месяц назад

thanks for a detailed look

@speedmaster6781 Месяц назад

Great review. If you could only have Gen 1 or 2, which would you choose?

@MuhammadAhsan-hq2bc Месяц назад

1st gen is best

@EscapementWatch Месяц назад

Gen 1 (without the crown guards) I think that was a special edition.

@GapBahnDirk Месяц назад

2nd Gen.

@Zooock Месяц назад

Nothing wrong with hardlex. I love the new version and waiting for an orange dial now 😊

@johnnyhuie74 Месяц назад

king version please

@user-yo3uf9os2z Месяц назад

I'm fine with hardlex, and I'm fine with pins. Pins are more secure, it's just a hassle to remove a few links. If pins are good enough for the Nautilus, it's good enough for me.

@TheAlbert12397 Месяц назад

Why are Seiko insisting on putting that date window at 4.30 on so many of their new models? They should stick to 3 o'clock

@EscapementWatch Месяц назад

its their new trend. only reissues like sje093 will keep the 3 oclock position for the next couple yrs it seems

@DescriminiranMakedonec Месяц назад

They made it worse with that's ugly big chapter ring.

@CyberRabid. Месяц назад

In most cases the Seiko alignment issue hasn't been with the bezel insert. It's been with the minute marks on the chapter rings of some models.

@fabiomelero2635 Месяц назад

They use hardlex because it's harder. It's the correct material for water dive watches. Sapphire is for desk dive watches.

@9426sunny Месяц назад

I don't understand why seiko never give us signed crown... Is that so much hard to do?

@EscapementWatch Месяц назад

They only do that nowadays on reissues of vintage seikos or presage models

@DeepsGnome Месяц назад

They never sign prospex models. I think it's because the typical crown S logo looks too old and vintage in style, and wouldn't fit the professional sports look of the more modern prospex line. I wouldn't mind if they put the prospex X logo on the crown however.

@ChrisMetz-c1e Месяц назад

I bought a watch from MaMaCoo lightly used for my last milestone birthday. Don't wear it as much as it deserves, but not afraid to, either. It's stunning . Good taste, Sir.

@cheungarrie123 Месяц назад

No, you’re not alone about the rehaut. It is my understanding that it is a result of budget control. First of all the rehaut is designed to be a slope shape with the opening getting a bit wider closer to the crystal, so that the dial would sit tight on that slope. I read about people complaining about 4R series movements have huge space between dial and crystal. The reason is the horizontal placement of the crown was set, so the dial has to be at a certain height to accommodate for the position of the crown and the spindle. Since the new samurai’s continue to use the 4R movements, without a chapter ring that’s just how it is. And yes, I think it looks cheap. I spent some time at a dealer trying to convince myself that it’s acceptable with these watches on the wrist. But I couldn’t.

@user-og2ro4ux3n Месяц назад

I agree 100% with your comparison. I prefer the case without the break on the side, and the rehaut is too large (We see this on watches from many brands these days. Vintage watches never suffer from this problem with their crystal that go deeper in the watch.). A rehaut without chapter ring is easier to install, but the dial and rehaut of the previous version were more organic, and provided a more premium feel. Overall, the new one is better, still.

@simonchow6894 Месяц назад

I like the old samurai because of the angular look. Not to mention the unique great blue dial with a hint of baby blue on hands and bezel.

@gustomundo Месяц назад

Not a fan of the Samurai... have only one and it's for sale. Lacks the magic for me. Will have a look at the new version but wouldn't order online. Wearing a Sumo, have a willard, and love turtles, 62mas designs. Basically everything else

@TheKopolanpoika Месяц назад

I hate that date window, we don't need that every 200m diver. Same in SPB383/381 I would change anything else that deleting that stupid date window

@Robert-vw3od Месяц назад

Movement .

@LingLing-ou6nt 17 дней назад

Whats the model number of the old version?

@EscapementWatch 17 дней назад

SRPG21 I made a video about it years ago ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HxAMBdhq9lM.html

@DeanoTXR53 27 дней назад

Were the old ones big sellers? They were so extreme that I wonder how much actual retail appeal they had. These new ones take the old design language and translate it into a for that works on way more wrists and for way more tastes. I thought the old one was cool in theory, but it was just "too much" in too many ways for me to ever want to buy and wear. New one is super appealing to me. And I love the new matte bezel insert. Looks so much better than the old shiny ceramic

@matthewsanders6499 Месяц назад

Team "this is way better."

@WristWatcher Месяц назад

Ask a favor, do you still have any of the new marinemasters on hand?

@EscapementWatch Месяц назад

No sorry.

@WristWatcher Месяц назад

@@EscapementWatch np, ty!

@Koishishibaman Месяц назад

I think the size may be better for many people. The original samurai is a big watch that wears smaller. Think it is a good looking watch, but it have become more generic. It has lost its edgy attitude that makes it so copied. Omg! No more rocket hand set😮 Not going to buy a new one. I have 6 samurai, most jdm. Think one of my favorite watches in my collection is my black dial jdm titanium samurai on the bracelet . The case, dial is amazing.

@DeepsGnome Месяц назад

Agreed

@Desperate4changing Месяц назад

I like the size, maybe there will be a King Samurai version?

@zaskarclf Месяц назад

They screwed the sammy up. Doennt have the same vibe to it. 👎

@SERGJAPANWATCH Месяц назад

With such characteristics, the cost of a new model should be a maximum of $300

@pokie6087 Месяц назад

@SERGJAPANWATCH Name me a similarly specced watch from a mainstream manufacturer that you can buy for $300.

@idizzzful Месяц назад

@@pokie6087it's ok, I'll buy more San Martins

@pokie6087 Месяц назад

@@idizzzful Why is it important to only buy watches with Seiko movements,😂

@idizzzful Месяц назад

@@pokie6087 it's cos i do some watch making my self and have plenty of spare parts (hands, dials, stems etc) anyway I'm not trying to convince you fan boys, spend your money on huge corporations this may end up good to you LOL

@ajmarion Месяц назад

It will be $300 in a couple months, nobody pays retail price

@user-xy9yl1vw8w Месяц назад

Wow 😍😍😍😍😍

@marcvanheugten9472 День назад

What I didnt like from the old one was the offset crown, as in, it was not in the middle which I think was quality. How is the new one?

@jonatansterling397 Месяц назад

It seems the accuracy is not quite good

@EscapementWatch Месяц назад

the on the wrist performance is about +6 seconds a day. So that is COSC level which is pretty decent for such a cheap throw away movement. It's like $45 dollars to replace the movement.

@onoff5604 Месяц назад

Review footage here and 'just one more watch'' suggests there is a glare-fuzz effect. The original samura was glare free. Could someone please comment on this with some data? Many thanks for great review.

@offcamber Месяц назад

T h a n k y o u for the review. This seems like a Samurette 👯‍♀️ It lost it’s masculinity.

@AlexanderB. Месяц назад

There's no way I'd pick this thing with it's ugly handset and a craplex crystal over a King Samurai with a sapphire crystal and ceramic bezel insert.

@dannyfree1120 Месяц назад

It's a great, solid watch but can't figure out where the price comes from.

@mrsoisauce9017 Месяц назад

4:14 Hardlex is not as scratch resistant, but it is more shatterproof. It is the ideal crystal of choice for a tool watch; something that a lot of watch guys tend to overlook. I’d be more disappointed if Hardlex was on their Presage models instead of Sapphire. Oh wait…

@ralfwirtz6504 21 день назад

BUY TANDORIO mas 62 -same

@andiwaow3327 Месяц назад

The new one looks like cwc watch

@aureate Месяц назад

They had to ruin it with Hardlex

@DeepsGnome Месяц назад

Personally, i wish they kept the original iconic design and just shrunk it down 2mm, that would've been better imo.

@GermanMassa Месяц назад

I prefer the older king samurai, with a more robust look. The new version can be a good solution for those who do not want such a voluptuous watch, but certainly losing a bit of personality.

@fungus70 Месяц назад

It's a combination of samurai and shogun 😅

@malzahar33 Месяц назад

You are right the case is way better. But everything else is ugly. The font of the bezel insert is ugly af, the indexes and hands are ugly

@michaelkilbride2927 Месяц назад

There's only one samurai and that's not it I have king samurai save the ocean but no more seiko for me I've moved on because of poor specification for more.money

@karicdarko Месяц назад

I have old one,tha last padi edition,great blue,and went to try this new one in local seiko shop aaand new one looks and feels cheaper and boring that is aaall review that anyone needs and its reality,not every watch needs to be simple,and as you tubers say clean when infact that means simple(boring).Just dont blind buy go and see for your self that should be advice

@user-nh8tc9po2l 7 дней назад

🤣🤣🤣🤣 diving watch aclling samurail, what for waleshiit

@Beck-Stein Месяц назад

Looks like you got a fake seiko because the bezel is aligned.

@ivanmirones9220 Месяц назад

No Sapphire,no ceramic Bessel??. Downgrade....

@PepRex Месяц назад

Not everything needs to be ceramic, Hardlex takes knocks better than sapphire so it won't shatter in a dive which is the watches purpose as a cheap dive watch.

@ivanmirones9220 Месяц назад

@@PepRex Hardlex cheeper,aluminum cheeper and your paying the same as a King. The date window is ridiculous,no chapter ring. I'll give you the lugs, they do look better

@PepRex Месяц назад

@@ivanmirones9220 I like the stainless steel rehaut. It's what Omega does, It's what Rolex does. Date window is a preference thing, It's better than a cyclops at 3. Hardlex is what 5 dollars cheaper than sapphire? I don't think they do it for the profits. It's anodised aluminium. It has a look you don't get via ceramic.

@ivanmirones9220 Месяц назад

@@PepRexIt's a matter of preference. Hated the cyclops at first now it looks cool its what Rolex does.😀

@Basdeyful Месяц назад

To Little

@kellypaws Месяц назад

Yeah. No. They’ve sucked everything distinctive out of the Samurai (I have three) and instead, made this. No, thanks.

@MikeSmith-er1qs Месяц назад

Sorry, but it seems to me that they took out all the unique characteristics that made a samurai stand out.

@GunGuy258 Месяц назад

Any watch over $150-200 should come with sapphire crystal. It costs them $3.00 So tired of this mineral and hardlex crap in $500.00 watches.

@solidus1995 21 день назад

I dont buy seikos due to the hardlex. Sorry. I only own two seikos. The arnie and the ssk023 gmt. Ssk has been in my wrist for a month and has already gained a bunch of scratches from light use. Makes me scared for my arnie. Dont need to deal wuth that shit. Rather have acrylic.

@rudyharrifshariman5126 Месяц назад

Re inventing the already iconic design is not a smart move. People buy samurai because it is uniquely a samurai or else we will just opt for other model....