Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (Zero Punctuation) 

"Hope you didn't put that bottle down lads"

new challenge: take a shot every time yahtzee says a bond film

you just aren't trying hard enough drink every time hes negative that'll do ya for alcoholic poisoning

But we can still get shit-faced, right?

I cheat. When the person openly admits to breaking your drinking game, you adjust to their rules. The moment he switches too James Bond drink I with the call to each bondulance oh help god.

Just toggle combat AI using console commands in a game that has them. The Elder Scrolls/Fallout titles over the past decade or so, source engine games, etc.

in La-Mulana pausing makes your character sit where they are, eat some noodles and then fall asleep this is actually necessary to solve at least one puzzle

@@TheSmegPod Hah, slick. That's like the "close the gameboy" style puzzles.

That’s what I always thought would make for a good Pixar movie. Or Yknow, a decent wreck it Ralph sequel that didn’t suck.

smash bros kinda does that when you pause in training mode

so kinda like every dragon boss in the souls series @@corsegerspwnd

Same

@@corsegerspwnd no need to share your fetish

@@xVallan Apart from that dragon on the way to the god of war. He/She/Schlee's a bitch 😂

corsegerspwnd i guess Sekiro couldnt respect you being Bad at Games?

I legitimately burst out laughing at this in the script.

I'm going to start saying "like wanking with a pasta claw"

It’s good practice in thievery to avoid announcing to the world your intent to steal something...

His best quote it still “pants down, fist up bam bam bam”

I especially love the "you wot" that pops up.

I have never been so thankful to choke on pizza. Gave me a good chuckle at least.

You have completely made my day. Thank you

Interestingly, that word is made of “milk/udder” + “head”

@@bowmanc.7439 Technically, it's "neck". Sometimes it's used interchangeably though, so head is not wrong either.

Sanzu River yes I know that. But if you look at its origin and historical usage, it’s... well, the change seem to be gradual but originally it was head

Spy (ninja) who drink a lot (gourd water) stop a conspiration involving a convoluted plan (kidnap kid for inmortality) and somehow a woman is involved (Emma, Divine Child and Kuro). So, yeah, pretty much a James Bond movie!

@@Dadan-dan Kuro is a dude ,dude

Did the both of you just assume Kuro's gender?!?!?!

@@gingermcgingin1733 **ahem** REEEEEEEEEEEEE

@@Guru_1092 slightly bigger ree

Oh you'l be sending messages before long enough.

And I'm not.

If you miss it, then you shouldn't have sold your copy.

Messages, random invasions, and being a handy boss run helper. Oh well at least I only had to drag my carcass through Sekiro once, back to Dark souls and jolly cooperation!.

"Don't give up, skeleton"

It's sad you dont know he doesn't care.

@@dontmindme5879 You don't watch Jim Sterling I take it?

Of the many things in life that deserve a great deal of effort and focus, replacing "Dark Souls" with different bond film titles is not one of them...

@@dontmindme5879 "Satire" is a foreign concept to you, I see.

I'm kind of enjoying all the people that missed the subtext of your comment. It has a small layer of inadvertent trolling to it :D

you should be ashamed of your shelf

RIP to my favorite Dark Souls actor

@DLilly October 31 henceforth shall not only be known as Halloween but also as Talk-Like-A-Scottish Day.

Also me after a few shots of whiskey...

So One Armed Wolf Wolf?

@Distinctly - ST MD - Average why the fuck would you ... I mean ... if you're gonna do that, WHY not James Sekiro..? y'know? 🙄

@@xdan- moon moon stahp!

@Distinctly - ST MD - Average oh I see, I'm glad it had _some_ referential meaning, I was like "dude all you did was make the joke worse" 🤔

@@xdan- Moon Moon is that you? xD

I think he liked it just not as much as Octopussy

I'm not, it's an extremely focused experienced aimed at a specific subgroup of the fans which tells everyone else to sod off. This game is not for you if you enjoyed From Russia Die Twice's: - atmosphere - level design - world building - world variety - enemy variety - level up mechanics - item variety - combat variety - combat freedom - magic - fantasy setting - character customization - combat - mele combat - range combat - 1 v 1 boss fights without annoying ads - boss fights not entirely reliant and memorizing patterns - boss fights not entirely reliant on quick time events - non-tedious boss fights - telegraphed enemy attacks - progression freedom - exploration rewards Well, now that you've made it all the way to the bottom of the list here, have a piece of glass.

Yahtzee, do you like Sekiro as much as Darksouls? Yahtzee: "Doctor No".

@@Palora01 ngl the level design is better than dark souls, the verticality adds a lot.

@@Palora01 dark souls had ads I'm not going to call it something James bond so meh. But there are bosses with ads.

AntiMainstreamMusic this is true

If you're a journo.

WOT'S THAT SKIPPY? Shadow's die fifty squintillion times?!

A Bazillion Ways to Die in Japan

AntiMainstreamMusic edgy name

I dunno. I actually like Moonraker as it turned out to be a better movie than I was expecting. Having seen them all, it’s one of the better Bond films of the series.

@@NathanCassidy721 ...Said nobody ever, in any conceivable universe. Moonraker is just bad.

@@raindrain1 ...Said the commenter who clearly doesn't know how bad movies can get. If you thought this movie was bad, HO BUDDY, you have no idea what you are talking about. Moonraker is cheesy sci-fi but by no means a bad movie.

@@NathanCassidy721 I've watched The Room in movie class. Trust me, I have some idea.

...Moonraker is my favourite one. Granted I only watched a couple. I also like the one where he’s in the bahamas. I don’t know which one that is. I know I didn’t like Skyfall or Spectre.

Pretty sure Dr. No is the Dr. No of James Bond films.

@@macmcskullface1004 Given his personality, the amount of alcohol consumed, and the fact that this was made in the 60's - someone probably should have been doing it. You really think liquored up Mr Superspy ultra suave ladies man is gonna take no for an answer from someone named "Pussy Galore"?

@@macmcskullface1004 So "that's" who's in the Gillette advert.

I'm so angry because I understand this multiple level reference.

@@Isaac-if9pf the difference is that the plot justifies him doing those other things. How can you let your bullshit cloud your judgement so much that you can't see that? The thing about him raping and demeaning women is that he doesn't need to do it; it doesn't get him closer to his objective, doesn't help with the mission, doesn't punish any misdeeds, it's just him being shitty. It's also not a person's character flaw, it's many eliberately written scenes in many movies. We don't see him shitting, so why do we see him raping even when it doesn't benefit the plot? It's because they thought it establishes him as a manly man that doesn't take no for an answer. It's less a critique of the fictitious man, and more a critique of the movies he's in. The movies justify every killing as being of a "bad guy", and even then it's mostly in self defense, but they only justify the rampant misogyny and the barn rape with versions of "they were asking for it" and "they love it". Seriously, I love Bond movies, which is why, unlike you white knights defending them, I watched them and know how shitty they can be. Seriously, try watching this scene and say "yep, no misogyny here": ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bcNGYRKBfHA.html

That's not really the kind of flashing I was expecting.

So, they literally flashed nipples at the audience? The best puns are the ones you don't see coming.

Well, but then they hack your nipples off, though. And also they do it in one of three distinct ways that all have the same sound and symbol but require distinct and completely incompatible countermeasures.

I thought it was obvious 30secs in that that would be the end gag. A tired formula.

@@psychomantis183 excellent job psycho mantis 👍 your psychic abilities are most impressive.

@@Mirmisian yes I know, but it did feel as he jokingly forced that part in the script on purpose..

never say never again doesn't count

Shame he missed From Russia With Love but inc. Never Say Never Again, since then he'd have got all the official Bond movies.

git gud, casual

@@jynxed66six54 sekiro is way harder than any souls game. Demons souls and dark souls 1, just light roll and get those i frames. Dark souls 2, just block it or shoot poision arrows at annoyingly big baddies (mastadon knights), and bloodborne's parry makes the game a breeze.

@@skaterdude7277 sekiro, just deflect and then attack

I was about to finish the game ( last boss and finally got a quarter in on his last bar) but then the next time I went into the game, my data got corrupted

@@jynxed66six54 *Casul

It should have more oomph to it for it to feel natural. "Pure Thunderbaaaaaaaaaaaal"

it sounds sexual....

Cooking Mama

Fruit Ninja

Minecraft

@@theladoflads7884 'grab the eggs off the top shelf withthe grappling hook'

Yeah. Just imagine The Sims with grappling hooks. Or Chess. :P

YEAH, BABY!!!!

Do you mean North by northwest, right? ;)

Epicmonk117 *comrade... I think you mean *Dark Souls 3**

The Murder Party Vote Khorne No. I mean *_A U S T I N P O W E R S_*

@@Makareno94 Nioh is a good game!

You mean... dodge rolling ? :D

I... I want that?

123 456 cut the first few seconds out and play it for them

T'would be confusing and hilarious to that watcher if Yahtzee didn't explain the use of the Bond film titles within the first minute of the video.

I agree wholeheartedly. I relly enjoy sekiro for its streamlined combat, but I also agree with Yahtz as streamlining necessitates a bit of pruning. So I think the combat is generally stronger, but also less varied. Both styles have their place in my book. I really enjoyed Sekiro, but I think Darksouls is the one I'll be more likely to keep revisiting.

Technically, it's both a retread of Thunderball and a screw-you to the original studio.

@@daynechastant And a just terrible movie, even by cheesy Bond standards.

@@bandit0802 seriously, it's just awful. Casino Royale is the better of the two non-EON Bond films and it's a disaster too.

@@matroxman11 It's been a while since he has said it explicitly, but the general idea is that if he doesn't nitpick something specifically, it was at least OK. Given that most of the complaints here were minor negative comparisons to Tomorrow Never Dies, a game he would cheerfully marry if the law allowed it, it's probably fair to say he didn't hate it

@@talltroll7092 Yeah I think he mirrors my sentiment ,still a good game,but kind of a disappointing mixed feeling with most of the player agency being removed etc

After playing for a bit, he doesn't like it as much as the game that he loves but that he hated when he just played for a bit.

@@majorgwedgie honestly I'm in the same boat. I really like the game but the other just has more elements I like to it. However I'm pleasantly surprised by how much I like it since I had major doubts I would enjoy this game as much when I learned about the major changes to character customization, and online play. I was wary but willing to try it. If the Skyfall 1 and 3 are both 9/10 for me then this would be a 7 or even 8 at times. Very solid game.

Considering Austin Powers is his one of his all-time favorite video games, being not as good in his opinion doesn't exactly mean anything.

technically, it remade it bloody only once, so far

This isn't ERB pal lol Good joke though

That was good. A biiiit off target, but I salute you XD

@@williamaldred335 Can you let him get back to his rap please?

@@refusingtoconform Rap these you velvety hack

Miyazaki is on record as being anti-sequel, it's the primary reason why Dark Souls 2 was made by a different company and Dark Souls 3 even though it was directed by Miyazaki it's regarded as a sloppy sequel (not knocking DS3 at all, just saying it's obvious he didn't care when we saw constant rehashed enemies and an area with two bonfires within line of sight of each other). At any rate, I would love for some DLC or a proper sequel of Sekiro even though I haven't played it yet (I'm still working my way through the DS trilogy, then I'll head into Sekiro).

@@FamousWolfe Conan O'Brien had a gag on his show a ways back about using the word Thrice. But I agree with what you said, Miyazaki is a gem because he actually cares about the games he makes.

@@FamousWolfe not a different company, just a different director

@@FamousWolfe have you started sekiro yet?

@@philj212 Yeah, I actually ended up playing it after I finished DS1 Remastered lol. I've beaten it 3 times already and it's hands down my favorite FromSoft game. I've also played through & beat DS3 which I thought was fantastic. I was doing a playthrough of DS2 but I gave up just before heading to Drangleic Castle.

@Distinctly - ST MD - Average if you think that's ridiculous, then crack open an Ian Fleming novel. "All women want to be swept off their feet. In their dreams they long to be slung over a man’s shoulder and taken into a cave and raped" is an actual line in From Russia, With Love. Ian Fleming could be pretty messed up.

In the original short story “Octopussy” is the nickname of the pet octopus of Major Dexter Smythe. Which makes sense. In the film it was changed to the nickname of Major Dexter Smythe’s daughter. Which is rather messed up.

@Shaun TMD my personal favourite is Holly Goodhead

if you are noot a zoro obssed weeb like me you can,t bet shadows

Haha i dont know how its a power fantasy if you spend 90% of your time being murdered (sometimes by giant chickens)

@Carlos - that sounds like a Normie problem to me. ...Hardcore gamers and speedrunners using ALL of their items, expoiting every abuseable mechanic, were sailing through the first half of the game on the very first day. don't forget, Weebs LIVE for masochistic shit like Ikaruga and Touhou and NinjaGaiden b/c they're goddamned little no life having degenerates

@@iller3 guess i'm a normie then. the game was super tough for me.

@@iller3 Oh, you think you're good? Well then 1v1 me in Toontown scrub. We'll see who's a normie then.

Yes

As in - do the stealth properly or juggle enemies until only the boss remains kinda thing

I am totally with you.

Gravity falls reference?

@@vincentproud6589 No, it was a reference to the James Bond film "SPECTRE".

It's a Soulslike game, the tutorial doesn't end until NG+!

@Fimbulventr Can confirm I made it through the Purification ending my first playthrough and there were a number of times I almost quit. Having beat every one of the last main Souls games this new combat system really trough me for a loop. That Lady Butterfly fight is one weed out point. The next is probably Genichiro. After that if you can get through Isshin you have just beaten one of the hardest things in modern gaming. So don't give up you can do it skeleton!

@@yellowcard8100 in a game notorious for its difficulty, its not exactly far fetched to find a really hard area and just assume it's where you're supposed to go

@@DeletedUser410 And I think that's okay. I don't think all games have to cater to wide audiences. Dark Souls originally didn't, and Sekiro has just become even more specialized for a razor sharp challenge that I think anyone is capable of tackling, but not everyone has to enjoy.

I know this was 3 years ago, but for anyone reading this comment now, you have to actually watch the animations - specifically, the hands of the enemies (rather than pay attention to on-screen prompts). The grab, thrust and sweep attacks are painfully obvious in the animations - if the dude reaches his left arm backward, he's probably going for a grab.

it's tough to figure out but you basically just have to attempt the boss enough times to lean its patterns and then you start to be able to read the wind-ups. you still might counter incorrectly but then you have to put even more hours in to wire your brain to each different attack. sounds dreadful but i'm having a lot of fun with it

​@@agromchung ya, also worth noting that the kanji is the same for all 3 perilous attacks - it's just saying "heads up, look at the model!"

Veterans, or people that just ran with the Katana in Dark Souls. I couldn't stand this game because I couldn't use a thrust sword, or a staff or club or shoot a bow. Its just Dark Souls without the soul

I find it refreshing. The game doesn't pull punches and expects you to jump in ready to deflect flurries in a moment's notice. The mechanics are so backward from before that it's a whole new set of skills to learn.

Sherrif you need to stop playing it like a Dark Souls game or you're gonna have a bad time. Its NOT Dark Souls with "no Soul", its Sekiro

Removing the library of different weapons and builds from the game without adding a similar amount of depth compared to what was removed. Fan boys like to act like the game isn't just a dark souls games with fewer mechanics and a grappling hook, but that's all it really is.

@@SherrifOfNottingham Gotcha, the game lacks a slew of skills garnered by a skill tree, many of which are not unlocked either by defeating certain bosses or by completing certain side quests. There aren't a multitude of prostethics similar to the fashion of which dark souls had spells. Every enemy is approached the same way, it's inevitably the same fight on 'every' ocassion with no difference, especially bosses where you can just slash away and don't require learning their move sets and responding accordingly or learning specific weakness from certain prosthetics. Yep, no depth to the game at all.(And if you didn't catch it, yes, I'm being sarcastic.) You're gonna have to tell me where the depth is missing or I'm going to have to assume you might be the fanboy of Dark Souls and this is just projection on your part over the game not being a strict copy paste of those three titles.

Either would be a godsend, however since sekiro started as a new tenchu I feel like FromSoft would just make a mecha dark souls, because masocore games seem to be the only tool left in the belt

I’m with you there on a new Tenchu game my dude. Been too long!

Yes. Yes and yes! This guy knows a good ninja game.

Your wish has been granted. Armored Core VI releases August 25th!

I think Koolets hasn't been reading a lot of dictionaries lately... very sure on that one.

@@wavehopper4183 true, but that would imply one gives enough s to be bothered to even know or bother reading up the names of these kids

@@wavehopper4183 Could do the MCU?

@@wavehopper4183 If the titles had variety, the Godzilla franchise could have worked too.

Well he is British(?)

It's moronic to compare the two anyway as they're different enough to stand on their own merits.....it's like when people bitched at bloodborne for being too fast and difficult because they're trying to play like cowards

They're pretty similar... followed the same formula for success. It wasn't really that different.

Well in The World is not enough, the second game's parry was more forgiving which I liked about it. Botw helped with that. In the other Casino Royale games, you either have to have the eyesight of a fly or take shittons of Ritalin to make effective parries.

Meanwhile I'm just over here like, "I still love Bloodborne more than anything else From has made."

@@vigorouslethargy Well... I mean... Bloodborne was freaking awesome!

parrying doesnst always mean ds parrying. so its not something to compare

@@Exel3nce Fair enough. Like how parrying in Bloodborne is different than parrying in DS.

funny you should say that because FROM SOFTWARE made a few of those games.

@@tracerau7424 And they should make more. I loved Tenchu :(

I also like the comparison I saw that Sekiro is 90% Tenchu and 10% Mike Tyson Punch Out

It plays a lot like Tenchu. Same publisher too, you'll notice.

i quite enjoyed both games. and sucked at both too

Johnny Burnes Totally 👌🏻

"........"(Done.)

...Ah, a man of culture who mentions Street Fighter 3! :)

Alright! That's cool.

the options are cool, sure, but in the end most weapons in ds feel/play the same. i would rather have the weapons numbers of bb plus their personaltiy, not just a noname spear +1

Not to mention that memes and challenge runs aside, everyone ends up using the same set of weapons/armors/rings. There might as well be 4 rings in Dks but there's 30 more that you'll probably never use.

As a Soulsborne newcomer, I'm dissapointed. The combat's good, not great, and everything else is mediocre as all heck. Including the boss design. I feel like the unforgiving nature is a crutch to not have to actually design a good game. Just make the player happy that it's over and maybe they won't notice that we copied every boss but two ATLEAST once. Or that the story is bland. Or that half of the prosthetics are useless. Or that combat skills are a giant liability. Or that... Y'know what I've made my point.

@@thetri-bdojel2220 what are you even babbling there

@@thetri-bdojel2220 a lot of things you said can be copied over to the rest if the soulsborne games. I prefer the story in Sekiro over the rest because you have some idea of who you are and what your goals are without having to look it up in a wiki. Though your character has low personality because he is a servant with an honor code, you know who he is, he has a voice, people talk to him like he is actually there instead of spouting cryptic nonsense. The story is happening to him now, and isn't about the non-speaking bosses whom the game tells you nothing about or some war that happened before he got here. It isn't award winning, but you don't have to read flavor text to find it. The fighting feels good, because it is actually fighting, instead if hiding behind a giant bosses knee. It gives the same high when you win that the other soulsborne games give, maybe even better because you know it was all your sword fighting skills and not power leveling or super weapons pulling you through.

My first playthrough I beat the majority of bosses by just running away and abusing infinite stamina, and trying to get behind them in tbe meanwhile to punish any laggy moves. I was awful at parrying because of it, but it certainly worked and got me through the game without many struggles. Definitely a different approach that works well - That being said, that's still only two types of play, and I imagine most players would find that less fun than parrying.

@@Goofzillers Fair enough, but then that still leaves you with two ways to play. Neither of those sound fun to me. I've actually since beaten the game and have long realized it isn't a action game at all. It's a rhythm game. You just can't see the button prompts and it doesn't have musical cues purely visual. It's pretty much 3D crypt of the necrodancer without the awesome music. After that realization I found it much easier. I often didn't even move much during boss fights just stood there and reacted to the bosses attacks until they died. Worked against about 95% of them including the final boss who didn't even touch me. The mooks actually ended up being harder for me in the end simply because it's hard to keep track of all of them in a fight unless you can assassinate/blitz them.

@@dragoon3219 Yeah, pretty much. I personally prefer Goldfinger to it, although I still think it's quite good. You definitely need to pick up on the mechanics to enjoy it, and even then it might not be your thing. It definitely is like a rhythm game though - At least when it comes to bosses. The areas and enemy encounters tend to be fine, but they threw in a couple pains that you have to resort to tedious stealth tactics to approach, and that's probably the weakest part of the game in my opinion. I think the example the video uses for this is the worst offender, but it unfortunately comes right near the beginning of the game and likely deterred a lot of people away.

@@Mister_Don888 Bloodborne has yet to be topped. I said what I said

I'd disagree, but I can't. Even Witcher 3's combat has helped my parry game a bit.

You'd think this would work but I went back to Bloodborne and immediately underestimated how slow my character was in comparison to Sekiro and got my arse handed to me several times. That said did whup Lady Maria shortly after that in the DLC with a series of parries.

How to make sekiro parrying less annoying Pretend its a rhythm game

Lol

GameDevYal most games don’t really give you a choice. Bloodborne didn’t really, they stripped away your shield so you had to get good at dodging. Sekiro is the same, you just have to get good at parrying

I mean pretty much everything is beatable with just using base mechanics but ya you are going to have a really rough go of it and some bosses are so weak to A certain prosthetic that it feels like cheating. And that's also not a good thing because while it's not exactly cheesing it is preventing you for doing what all from games eventually require you to do and git gud. You cheese your way through boss after boss and finally find one without an easy button and you get shitstomped because you never really learned the base mechanics

@@obsolete18 You know, I see a lot of people say this same thing, but most bosses have a window of time before they're vulnerable to the prosthetic again, or are only weak when they do a certain attack in the case of Lady Butterfly. Yeah you can learn to cheese, and that's fine and dandy if that's how you want to play, but the game is far better and more fun if you play the intended way. The fights are so much more cinematic and satisfying than anything in the Soulsborne series.

SaveMeXenu I'm not saying you should but the game most definitely tells you you should with most eavesdropping info being some variation on "man that big guy is really weak to loud noises. It would be very bad if someone used something that mad loud noises against him"

@@butternuts1990 Bull shit. Bloodborne had vastly different weapons and playstyles. You had a choice in there. Sekiro has no alternative fighting styles.

Have you not played for more than 30 minutes?

@@littlemoth4956 oh cool so after the 30 minute mark do you get a wider selection of weapons and the ability to block?

@@iank472 you start with the ability to deflect, which outclasses block entriely. If pressing the guard button in time with an attack is too much for you, I think we've found the issue.

I don't know. Bloodborne and DS3 give you a lot of choices in terms of attack combos. Maybe most people end up using R1-R1-R1 regardless of the weapon, but the game doesn't force you to play that way. Sekiro forces you to play a very specific way, you must parry and you must counter. It starts out more mechanically demanding, but by the end it's meh. Every battle feels the same. Would've preferred a new Souls game.

@@nixielee Well I disagree, Sword Saint is the end, and it's probably the least "meh" and most mechanically demanding boss Fromsoft has ever done. Bitching about having to parry and counter in Sekiro is like bitching about having to dodge and block in BB or Souls. And combos? Look, Bloodborne is one of my favorite games, my favorite weapon is the Rakuyo, it has some fun shit you can do with it but when I'm fighting Ludwig it goes out the window, it's "dodge the attack, hit when there's an opening", which is fine, I love simple i-frame dodge combat, I don't like DMC type action games, but they made 5 games with this basic outline. Sekiro is a more than welcome change of pace. Personally I find the ebb and flow of attacking and deflecting in this game intense and exhilarating, it really feels like an anime sword fight while still keeping that simple Fromsoft feel. I can see why this game is divisive to Souls fans though, we liked the games for different reasons.

Except combat in Sekiro is slow, boring, and annoying. There's nothing exciting to beating a damage sponge up for a few minutes while waiting for a bar to fill so you can do something that actually makes a difference. Unlike in the previous games where bosses were actually interesting and enemies weren't all sponges. Maria, Gerhman, Gascoigne, Orphan of Kos, Nameless King, Dragonslayer Armour, Dancer of the Boreal Valley, Pontiff Sulyvhan, and so much more were fun to fight. The thrill, the fast pace, using what you have sparingly, or just going in and winning effortlessly because you know exactly how to fight the enemy, it's all fun. Why? You don't need to do the same tactic to win, in fact you literally cannot use the same strategy on most of the bosses. You can parry, R1 spam and likely die, roll and dodge to get a quick hit in, shoot for a riposte, or whatever. Sekiro isn't even hard. It just takes the formula of older Souls games, removes summoning, and forces you to either learn the hard way, or bitch about it online like an idiot.

@@silenceundying Your opinion is shit, slow and boring is exact opposite of how I would describe sekiro's combat, even defense is fun to pull off and adds to defeating the enemy (I can do corrupted monk's first two phases with parries, jumps and mikiris alone now, it feels so fucking sweet to pull off). I like how you listed parrying and shooting for a riposte as separate strategies (or R1 spam and die, as if that isn't applicable to all their games). And Sekiro bosses have adaptive difficulty, you can go slow and whittle their health down if you're shit or you can go fast and stay in their face and parry to break their posture (sword saint can be beaten in 3 minutes, Guardian Ape's 2nd phase is much quicker if you stay in his face and deflect, spear strat to pull out the centipede is awesome too). Isshin, Monk, Owl (father), Guardian Ape, and Genichiro are easily some of the most fun and demanding fights Fromsoft has made, and like I said, some of them felt like an anime sword fight put into actual gameplay. Summoning was shit, it broke the game, From never made the boss AI to handle two players. I love Souls and Bloodborne, but From made 5 games with that similar style (i-frame dodge then hit when opening, some bosses could be parried but not many). I felt that From had stagnated (DS3 added weapon arts, but they were rarely useful and most left you too open to damage to use on bosses, I applaud the effort though). If I want that style I'll just go back and play those. Having to time deflects or jump or dodge or deciding to damage health or when to go in hard for the posture kill are just fun for me. Using advanced strats like high monk over sweeps or mid-air deflects make me feel the same way as when I first parried in Demon Souls.

@@silenceundying Yeah, I went back to Bloodborne and DS after Sekiro and the combat is so much more fun and varied, especially the bosses. Sekiro was an interesting experiment that ultimately failed to deliver something truly spectacular.

@YupimonEvolve You clearly don't have much experience at all with Sekiro. First of all in all of fromsoftwares games the choices you make in combat is reactive to the enemies attacks. You dodge/block until an opening in the enemies presents itself and then you attack. It's an incredibly simple formula but it works when the enemy in question is designed very well. In Sekiro there's a whole lot more to this. Each example you brought up for supposed depth in souls games is also obviously available in Sekiro. You dodge except in this game it's much harder to eye frame and you have two forms of dodge, step dodge like bloodborne which can transition into a sprint if you need distance and a jump which adds another dimension .The parry and block option is also available except this time around the parry is way less clunky. Because of the posture system you can't just use one strategy to succeed like in soulsborne games (just eye frame everything) you have to transition from parrying/blocking into dodging. Also the ninja tools aswell, you have three different specialized tools you can use mid fight, each with vastly different effects, some more reactive (mist raven, divine abduction, lotus umbrella shield) and other more aggressive (flame vent, shuriken, loaded spear, firecrackers.). Also because of the games posture system there's often two ways to take down the boss, patiently targeting their vitality or aggressively targeting their posture. When you also bring in perilous attacks that require certain actions to punish and require you to become familiar enough with your foe to tell their sweeps from their lunges, how certain bosses react uniquely to certain tools, the added stealth elements which add a new layer to the level design, the grappling hook which can be used during certain bosses to close distance ect. There is just way more depth to Sekiros moment to moment gameplay. Calling it that "parry" game or comparing it to AC creed is extremely reductive and helps your case none. Most of the depth unique to the souls games involves character building and loadouts. I personally don't care for those because leveling systems should exist to facilitate a character and souls protagonists basically have no character and there basically is no dialogue tree. Any element of roleplay that was present in darks souls and demon souls has been pretty much stripped out in ds3 and bloodborne to the point that I really don't see why the leveling system sticks around and all they do is work to limit your options. The games are way more structured like action games, except they lack as much depth. If they want to continue making action games than Sekiro and it's mechanics are the next most logical step. Which is to say it's not completely different but has evolved the formula by adding more layers and ditching a leveling system which worked contrary to fromsofts tight difficulty design

@YupimonEvolve Did... you just justify one system being more complex by describing it in a nerdier way? Don't worry, I can do that too. In Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice, players can choose a variety of methods to engage their enemies. They can stealth kill enemies to thin the horde, and use prosthetic tools at the cost if spirit emblems to catch them off their guard. When the player starts fighting, they can use several different combat arts. This includes a spin slash, a flurry of slices, or most importantly, the mikiri counter and deflection. This causes the player to want to plan their approach. You make constant choices, when to dodge, jump, mikiri, deflect, block, use prosthetics, and stealth kill. Dark Souls is more like a punishing 3D Mario.

@YupimonEvolve I played completely different often enough simply by not being that experienced and still won so you are wrong. The game is very forgiving later. Play the game from start to finish. You have enough options. And since when is blocking a bad thing. It is a swordsman's/ninja game. It is supposed to be stylish and not only hit and run 100% of the time.

@YupimonEvolve maybe you're talking about Dark Souls

The lack of real shortcut porn was disappointment.

It's probably cause you are so mobile in this game

Jajalaatmaar i‘d prefer they do crazy thing with it. It‘s clear that after souls 3 the team is running out of steam. Slave Knight Gael is basically a more polished Artorias fight. Midir dragon harass is something that you experience the entire time in the main game. All three games have dogshite lava levels. It‘s better that the team try something new like Sekiro (aka stealth souls) or many other new things.

I mean i like when fromsoft tries different thing imagine for a second in sekiro if dodge were more viable and their was weapon variety, a japanese setting has plenty, of options naginata,yari,nodachi,kusari-gama,kama,wakizashi to name a few, thinking about it that would be amazing as a side note its kind of ironic that in a game where you are a ninja you get locked into one weapon choice. thats very un-ninja really

yeah, because sekrio /from wanted the game to be a step back of the excat same game, and not something different...... just because its a fromsoftare game, doesnt mean you have to see everyting from the ds goggles

@@Exel3nce sure it's different that's fine it still however shares a huge amount of similarities with souls and many of the differences just come off to me and others as less enjoyable and more restrictive in terms of player agency and replayability

@Definitely ANonymous You don't understand the combat in Sekiro, that's really obvious from your post, which is fine, but don't try to list it as a con because you don't understand how it works. Dodging is meant to counter grabs and elemental attacks that damage you through blocks/deflects. Dark Souls was incredibly overly-reliant on dodge rolling, more than Sekiro is on deflects. I'm not even gonna touch your cringe worthy end statement there.

Exactly my thoughts!

This fight has been driving me insane the past couple of days.

yes and no, the genichiro wont "suddenly" make you like the fight system IF you dont already like it. the combat is great, BUT its not for everyone. there are things i love in sekiro, but if im being honest, its by far my least favorite game of the "franchise", and the reason is, i really enjoy how balls to the way i can make a character in dark souls. in here, there's only one true way to do it(unless you cheese it).

@@mikezenox If you've beaten Lady Butterfly without cheesing her you'll be able to beat Genichiro. Mikiri counters and the Ashina skills that enhance posture damage will ruin his day

The first fight when you get Kuro at the castle top? If so, that's extremely disappointing... He is a make or break boss to get you understanding core mechanics.

Not canon. That one was a Woody Allen parody film.

That one's controversial, what isn't is From Russia with Love which is absolutely a James Bond film

@@jmlkhan5153 Neither is Never Say Never Again, but he mentioned that one.

*FORMER resident. He's since moved to the Ideologically Divided States of Inane Dogma.