I'm a boxer and have been in over 20 street fights. The shoulder roll is the BEST for haymaker 100% because u dont know if its gunna be a looping right or a straight right with good technique. Plus it can be done REALLY quick with little effort, then come back with a straight right. Done this a BUNCH of times. Not a wanna be internet warrior either.
S2 Strategic Defense yes even when I'm fatigued in sparring, gassed, slow and can't hardly move anymore I can still deflect 80% of the rights with the tiniest effort or movement as long as your chin is tucked behind your shoulder. So even someone who hasnt aquired the movement memory and is slow and sloppy with it can still pull it off. You dont need to be mayweather contrary to popular belief by boxing casuals.
Tyrell Johnson lol thats a very good question. No it wont. I didn't even take into consideration a southpaw fighter. You would have to take a small step with your back foot backward (very small quick step) and bend at the waist foward to duck under it all in one movement not 2.
@@Noname-lk2ol Hello im from Houston and over here everyone thats fights leans back or "weaves" i dont know anyways to defend against this i do know someways but i dont think thier much effective or useful for me if you have any tips to fight back against weaving please do lmk asap
hmm ...wouldn't wanna cop an overhand right from Vader, not with those steel gloves. You might be able to slip and land a liver shot, not sure if his armour, awesome as it is, covers his sides. Then again, think I'd back The Empire over the pathetic Rebellion, even tho in real life am an anarchist.
If there is distance between two fighters, the one throwing the haymakers will step forward with it. Just go low and trip them with a leg sweep. Simple effective.
It's my opinion that the open spear and stop hit is superior to the rest of them. It can effectively counter a diversity of attacks apart from the haymaker, including but not limited to linear punches, chokes, bear hugs and takedowns. Furthermore, it can work from various angles.
As a bouncer in my younger days I knew most rowdy drunks are right-handed. I’d usually give them two shots and tell them that’s it. If they throw a third, my left hand goes under the armpit quickly, followed by a downward straight punch to the bridge of the nose. Fight over. I’ve had law enforcement ask me how many times I hit a guy because they’re sewing his nose back on before he goes to jail. I’d tell them I only hit him once and didn’t want to. I’d also watch guys when they’d sit down. What hand do they use to pull out a barstool, what hand do they drink with, what hand do they use with their phone, how do they shoot pool, sign a tab, etc. Know your opponent. I never wanted to hit somebody, but what you want and what you get are two entirely different things. Good video!
With boxing and other combat situations, You should be focused on what parts of their body moves to minimize your reaction time and make it faster because you’ll see a punch coming far before it lands. distance management and reaction time goes hand in hand. A lot of people will be wildly punching, but remember that they only have two arms and so do you. Anyways, I’d say that there are three places in which you can strike a person on the arms in a combat scenario from a punch and you can do that in a number of ways by using blocks coming from a guard and strikes, and the three places would have to be the fists, the forearms, and the upper arms (triceps and biceps). (However this is a defense against straight punches, not haymakers). When you see wild punches coming at you, you could do a number of things since they cannot kick while doing their punching. Weaken the core with a kick to the solar plexus or groin to bend the person downwards to help you work a technique or finish the fight, or use modern boxing guards/panantukan counters against wild punches and open the centerline for strikes and takedowns or work an angle if you choose to use the upper body (fists) to attack them depending on the punch type. With distance management, you know the distance In which your reflexes will actually see the punch coming and be ready to stop it using the training you’ve done to do that. People can actually throw punches out really far. To see this, just extend your arm out to its maximum distance, then push the scapula forward, then twist the hips and lean forward and you’ll see your maximum punching distance, doesn’t matter if it’s a haymaker, Jab, or cross. You can control the distance and respond. A good base won’t be weakened while controlling distance and stopping punches and you won’t get thrown over, if you do, it’s rolling techniques from there which should be effective and leave the other person either unconscious, or with broken limbs and torn ligaments. BJJ fighters are good at rolling, I’d recommend you learn BJJ if you live in a bad neighborhood as well. Now, go learn and go spar!
In one of my fights, the guy was throwing constant haymakers and I did a basic front snap kick to his nose and that ended it. Also, with the front push kick technique, if you hit with your heel or the ball of your foot on their sternum you can end the fight.
Another simple but effective counter for a wild haymaker is a step in jab the moment you see that arm swinging backwards. It'll open up a whole list of combos afterwards... That being said, I really like that clinch headbutt. I'll have to remember that one.
Haymaker defence. Right leg slightly forward and left slightly back. As the punch comes in step in with your left leg and simultaneously raise your left elbow in front of your face with the left hand over the left ear. The right elbow is also raised high with the right hand underneath the left tricep. The aim is for his face to make contact with your left elbow. Once in close the left hand can grab his shoulder where you can then deliver right elbow strikes or the head butt. By stepping in you've shortened the distance to target and the punch goes around the back of you. Once committed he can't change anything- hope this makes sense.
I’m that first drill your punch is likely to be a glancing blow, and will not take him out. His reaction will be to immediately throw his left punch, then close the distance and either pummel or clinch
The 2 ways I deal with a hay maker is to first Lift my arm up in the air to the haymaker while coming in low and elbowing the liver , You'll either make you opponent go down or open them up for Head kicks And punches . My second way is to quickly come in with a clinch that automatically Blocks the haymaker then Knee my opponent to the Ribs or face as Much as I wish , By doing this you can easily knock out your opponent or Severely Damage the person Making it instantly easier to knock them out. After the clinch I usually go for Head Kicks Punches and sweeps. Use the clinch and Knee Strikes with caution you can break ribs cause breathing problems to them or kill somebody.
Damn, that headbutt scared me! (kept looking like you were going to accidentally smash him in the face!) lol One that I do is come in real fast to meet his momentum and throw a front upward elbow under his chin (while at the same time forming a "Rampage" block on that side.) I sink into a good strong stance to brace for any impact during the collision.
The thing to understand about the Wild Haymaker is that it gets that name for being the double-edged sword of punches. While it delivers the most power among punches; the Wild Haymaker also leaves one wide open for a counterstrike and is highly predictable to counter for more skilled fighters; two big reasons why you don't want to deploy a Wild Haymaker carelessly.
Low leg kick to break their momentum and balance or shoulder roll..The rest of these techniques will not be effective due to speed and power involved in a haymaker. Not to mention the angle can be very awkward. No way your catching that arm ahead of time.
Often in street fights, people quickly follow a looping right with a looping left (or vise versa). A lot of these techniques seem to leave you open, without defense, when another left (in the videos case) comes at you. In that instance closing the distance similar to example 5 seems most optimal. Would you agree? Would you have another strategy for said conditions?
Cake, thanks for the comment. The earlier techniques relied on distance and I think I made mention of that. The later stuff like the head butt were in closer. If you're in close and the punch is coming your way...110% I agree that stepping inward is the better option. However, if you are at the extent of "fighting measure," that is the place to use the distance to your advantage by stepping out a bit, or using the reach of you leg.
I like to lower my level and blast double as they come in. Worked for me several times already. It helps I'm already short and was an all American college wrestler
What about kicking the leg on that push kick? Seem like it would be a quicker strike that the guy wouldn't see coming. Also, could do quite some damage with the momentum, using the guys aggression against him. A nice heel kick in that knee thigh area
Outside block 360defense.... Case closed. Or lean back like he says at first... A haymaker is the *EASIEST* punch to block. The *EASIEST* No one starts with that. The real deal is a well executed straight punch. You wanna stop that punch midway with your antagonistic hands palm. *If he throws straight right, you stop it with your left palm and hit him with your right straight, if he throws left straight, you stop that fist with right hand palm and simultaneously hit him with the right straight.* Watch out for punches in bunches...keep blocking until you connect a good counter punch and then just keep throwing. Until he is down.. Fighting is a timing and distance control game... That's it... Do an hour of shadowboxing, an hour of heavy bag to increase your speed and power and stamina... And play an hour of Counter strike 1.6 at expert difficulty, easy??? Play it against multiple bots, there is ALWAYS room for improvement.
panagranit pana Not really. There's a way to do a headbutt properly. If you know that, then at worst it'll daze you a bit but it'll crush the other guy. It's a worthy trade off.
What's the difference between a haymaker and a right hook? If they are the same punch, could one defend against it by ducking (bobbing and weaving) like Mike Tyson did against Tillis?
I feel like that explaining guy is even more haymaker than the second guy) And guys, just block counter, shoulder roll counter, if you can slip and counter it is that simple
(Ideally speaking) what part of your head would you like to be using, and on what location of attacker's head would prefer the headbutt strike to land?
Top/front third of the head (where the hairline typically starts) to the front of the face. That's the most amount of skull matter vs the least amount of skull matter.
Sachin Joseph low leg kicks , you just lift you leg and let them kick shin bone. Dont lift too high though. If its a thigh kick you should be able to grab that fairly easily but when grabbing make sure you're pushing them down with a straight push to the chest . If you just grab it and dont follow up you might eat a punch
Plenty of options out their. I tend to stay away from ducking/rolling under hatlymakers though. More often than not there's a lot of forward movement from the attacker which is closing the gap between us. So if you time it right you're sitting with your face down and head in range for them to grab it and start kneeling you in the face.
That is a situational and circumstantial decision. Sometimes you are turned to the side, sometimes elbowing his face is not the right answer.....but certainly if that opportunity is there, consider it!
1& 2 are great. 3 is gonna get you headlocked, clinched or hit in the back of the head 4 same as 3 5 is just a plum which is great, but i dont think id risk hitting the hardest part of his head with the hardest part of my head... Then again..the guy is throwing a haymaker in a fight, chances are he has no idea what he is doing anyways.
4 is great 5 will work little more dangerous in a fight BTW I'm almost 50 and due to a LOT of ignorant desisions I have had well over 200 actual street fights . Honestly though martial arts is great but dangerous as well. It gives ppl false impression they can fight when they are completely unprepared to face a grown adult intent on hurting them . A street fight is about hurting the other person as badly and as fast as possible period . Martial arts doesn't prepare you for that on any level . Martial arts is about defending yourself fighting is about destroying an opponent. Not only are they 2 completely different mind sets believe it or not they are completely different skill sets as well . And yes I am very well trained . Dabble in BJJ just to stay current . 8 years kempo 6 years ninjitsu 6 years Wing Chun and a little of this and a little of that along the way .
I don't think some of the techniques work under realistic conditions. Can you put on headgear, gloves, and pads and try it at full speed for another video?
I do that in our classes almost every evening, and am perfectly content in KNOWING they are realistic. How about YOU put the gear on, and start testing to see what you can do. That is where the growth will happen.
The problem with haymakers is that they come out of nowhere when employed at close range. Especially when they attacker is smaller than you are, his back shoulder can be obscured by the head. So any technique you use stands or falls with you anticipating it.
Awesome demo and terrific suggestions! I especially like Technique #5, but do you think it would work against an opponent that is at least 5 inches taller than you? Do you think the shorter guy that is 6 inches shorter than his opponent would be able to use his head to bang into his opponent’s face? If the taller guy doesn’t lower his head down when you move in and you can’t pull his head down in time to head-butt him, what kind of blows do you suggest instead? Thanks!
These are just options... not a tutorial. There are MANY variables that have to be constantly calculated... proper training will help answer your questions my friend.
Long story short some friends got jumped, someone sent a haymaker my way, boom L block and i was like "woah thanks for teaching me a little shaolin kempo mrs castromanner" 10+ years later
Why you chose to elbow his bicep when you can direct to his face which much more fatal? In that way, the agressor could execute counter left hook which much more fatal than what you do.
For several reasons: 1. To use the elbow you have to be a bit closer 2. To chamber and use the elbow you have to first deal with the incoming punch 3. The elbow to bicep line works better from the natural defense position where a person covers their head 4. The technique is actually based on using a blade rather than the elbow 5. Teaches students to use defense to offense 6. Does a better job at preventing a takedown 7. Sets up the rearward elbow which is FAR more devastating than a frontal elbow I could keep going but that should give some idea.
Like who for example? Maybe they're not that highly skilled. The secret to a good head but is to use the hardest part of your head (right above the forehead) and drive it into the face of your opponent (not the side of his head or his forehead) HIS FACE, right above the eye, under the eye, the nose, cheek bone. I guarantee he will be the only one knocked out.
I seen a scenerio where the guy puts his head down and start swinging wildly with both arms really fast(almost like front crawl in swimming), this doesn't seem like it would work, how to you defend against that?
Thats called windmilling lol i fought a guy who did that in boxing.. Uppercuts work wonders unless its Street rules then knees to the face and elbows to back of the head will keep them from windmilling
And if you try to block first and then hit the bicep after, you're probably going to eat a bunch of follow up shots before your elbow can land. People are likely going to throw a flurry of haymakers, not just one.
Any line you defend will always open another. But a haymaker is a committed punch with weight emphasized on the front foot which prevents any real attack from the other side. And if they do launch it.. it usually hits the back, shoulder area. It's a trade off.
Keep in mind, what works in slow motion in the gym will NOT work in a real fight when the punches are coming at you three or more per second. You have to use a bigger (longer?) weapon against an arm punch. In Shotokan karate, a split-second front kick to the bladder, solar plexus or face is longer than the attacker's arm. As soon as you see the attacker winding up to start punching - kick him and keep kicking him. When he's hurt and slower then punch the hell out of him. The instructor in this video looks to have heavy, slow leg kicks. He needs to practice more.
Keep in kind that works at full speed doesn't translate to camera. And the speed you'd execute in reality is not the speed you'd use to demonstrate or explain. That being said, you'd be far surprised and how quick the instructor kicks with his long history in arts such as Savate and Muay Thai. Lastly, you'd never make kicking motions against an aggressor with full.foward intent as with a haymaker punch; you'd be stuffed on range and complete off balance while the aggressor cold clocks you square to the nose. We see this on surveillance and bystander camera footage from bar fights literally thousands of times. Kicking in the real world is not like kicking dojo.
I stand corrected and bow to your experience in savate and muay thai. My only possible defense is that in Japanese and Okinawan karate there are two types of front kicks - a front snap kick and a front thrust kick. Many RU-vid videos show them using such a fast front kick almost like a jab or range finder. It's the same in UFC MMA fights. Not all kicks are intended as fight stoppers. Some are just judging your opponent's reaction and some to off-balance them momentarily. But as you point out, they better be fast cause MMA fights do show a lot of jammed or caught kicks.
@@STBRetired1 don't bow to anyone my friend... experiences are just things to share and learn from. That being said, you mentioned MMA/UFC... you see how many times someone tries to kick the opponent and in return they get knocked out, taken down, lose balance, etc etc. Now take it past that and into reality where you often times don't even see the fight coming on, don't know if it is one person or 5 people you are against, often in confined spaces like a bar room etc etc.... the LAST thing you want to do is get your feet off the ground for a kick until you are set and prepared and the moment is appropriate.
