Selmer Vs Marshall - Treble & Bass Vs JMP 2204 

I just love the way the Selmer breaks up. It's so crunchy. It's like biting into a handful of Doritos

I just love that Selmer sound.

The Selmer definitely has more grit and personality, more fuzzy and alive. Thank you, great video as usual Johan !

Johan, consider jumpering both channel inputs on both amps. More power and dB that way!

Classic Marshall tone, pretty great. Love that selmer though, sounds a bit thinner, and slightly less mids and almost a fuzzy od.

Both are great. The Selmer actually reminds me more of some cranked Fender amps.

i definitely prefer the marshall but that selmer would sound killer in a garage rock situation IMO. next how about a marshall jcm 800 VS a Sovtek MIG 100 (jcm 800 clone with 6l6 power tubes)

Johan! The King of riffs. Your playing epitomizes Classic Rock. Most of the time I don't really care what gear you're sharing with us.....I watch your videos to enjoy your playing. Thanks brother. Keep up the good work!

very cool amps, the Selmer has much more compressed sound and looser bass than the Marshall in my opinion but it's certainly very usable. Great demo of a rarely seen amp here in the States. Nice job as always Johan!

Have you tried the Selmer SV through the EVM15L tone ring cab? Perhaps with an SG?

\m/ Too late for me! I think BOTH will rock it!

Selmer’s amps are better than Marshall’s saxophones.

Awesome comparison Johan, love your channel dude, I'd love to have a space as big as yours. quick question where did you position your room mic on this ?

I hear why Marshall became the sound of rock, it's a very dependable tone and cuts right where guitar needs to be, but I prefer the Selmer. Reminds me of my old Ampeg VT40, but with a little less action in the lower mids.

hello ! does all jmp sounds the same in classic overdrive - not hotter than that ? bought a super mint jmp 2203 and it sounds exactly the same - thought it may give more powerful gain - its a 1979 made . thanks in advance

Sounding great. Do you think you can do a comparison between the Selmer and AC30?

Great video, you can tell that's a loud room! As a Selmer owner I prefer the Marshall... The Selmer was far more compressed, almost fuzzy and the bottom end was lacking. When I first got my T&B I'd use the bass channel but I tend to use just the normal channel now though I run pedals, but without I jump the channels. Curious, why do you us the attenuated input, just prefer it?

I heard that Paul Kossof used this Selmer amp recording the Fire and Water album. I don't know if anyone has heard that? Listening to this it sounds more plausible to me.

Marshall JMP 2204 is my favourite amp of all time.

The Marshall sounds healthy, the Selmer has a head cold..

Wow! Both Amps are obviously great, but the Selmer Always pleasantly surprises me how sweet It sounds! Johan, could you remind me which Strings do you use( gauge) and which type of pick? They are important to get your sound, thanks!

Riff at around 5:30 compelled me to go listen to The Cars' "let the good times roll" which I'd neglected for a while... I preferred the Marshall which sounded fuller, but the Selmer (a very rare amp here in California as far as I know) sounded great as well. Thanks for the fun and interesting stuff you put out Johan!

Both are great amps. The Selmer is a sort of a crossover between a Fender and a Marshall, more highs and a "polite" tone. The Marshall with that "roar" with your Flying V is a pure joy!

Both sound great Johan! The Marshall sounds massive! 😎👍

Sounded amazing. However I think the only thing I have concluded is Johan is using amp heads not connected to anything but a jack hole that is connected to a secret marshall somewhere. No matter what he plays he gets that Marshall tone. It really is all in your fingers.

The Selmer reminds me of a 70s Peavey Mace like Lynyrd Skynyrd used

A croc skin treble n bass vs a JTM45 would be and interesting comparison.........add a tweed bassman into the mix for tonal nirvana.

Well done Johan! My Mother actually worked for Selmer in the Brass division! Thanks for sharing and Be Well Brother!

if you had bridged both Selmer channels, maybe the T'n'B would have killed the JMP ? Btw, what mics do you mic the cab with ? look like e609+sm57 ?

I love this channel... he is like a dad I never head... a music Nerd

Pink Floyd used Selmer Treble n Bass in the beginning of their carreer.

Selmer all the way!!! (I have one of those, have worked on them in the past and can tell you they're built way better than the later Marshalls.)

Selmer for me after this great comparison

Both amplifiers are amazing I happen to have the same selmer amplifier an older model and its sound reminds me quite a bit of the Marshall jtm45 with some slight differences .. I wanted to ask what overdrive pedal have you put on the selmer?

So I just bought one of these and I think someone converted the echo inputs for a effects loop. Just wondered how it sounded stock. Great amps. I have the Zodiac 50 and the Treble & Bass 50 amp heads, great amplifiers.

Johan, have you played the new Sound City Amps? Like the 100? Something tells me you would like them. Maybe thats just me.

Hello Johan. What an amazing video. You should bridge the two channels my friend. And fine tune the sound. I have one. Its great.

The selmer has a delay unit input (fx loop), doesn't it? I think this the first amp in history with fx loop. Does it work?

That Selmer sounds great. Has it GZ34 rectifier or SS diode rectifier?

Hi, Johan! Sorry, I was a little late... Well, surprisingly that Selmer is an AWESOME AMP! Even I was watching twice, trying to recognize, what was 2204 and what was Selmer. Fore my ears Selmer sounds great, but you know, I like the groovy voices, and here they was balanced very very good!👍It's a first time I meeting Selmer, but I think, ITS GOOD. ITS JUST A REALLY WELL DONE AMP. I don't know, why I was like it so much, but it's a strong concurrent for Marshall's production (at least the last 6 years, but I am playing Marshall every single day, so I think, its not easy to get Selmer here.:-( But we will be ok. SELMER!👍👍👍 I LIKE IT! Nice video! Thank you very much,! C.U. Zigfrid

Sounds sick. Is the V for sale at all?

Wow, did you make up those riffs or are they from know songs? You could make an album out of them, just find the right voice!

I had a 2204 on long term loan at my house for several years. I miss it!

Selmer amps are often referred to as "The poor man's plexi". If you get your hands on a '66 model, they are the best. They have a GZ34 rectifier tube, and sonds like a mix between an AC-30 and a Plexi. I am lucky to own two of them. Picture here: www.amgardelectronics.co.uk/graphics/SelmerTnB.jpg

I assume your retired but just curious what you use to do for a living?

I had a Selmer T&B 50 back in 1979, it was loud and a bit microphonic, but overall a great sound.

Selmer has such a great character. Very compressed and tons of nose.

Johan I see you have some nice API pre's over there.. why not do a ''Sunday Deluxe'' video where you use nice Mic preamps (and perhaps a slightly more treated room) so people who are thinking what gear should they use while recording will have a better understanding of what combinations they are looking for? Really really love your videos good sir

They sound so similar it's uncanny. I probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference in a blindfold test.

I gotta say, that Selmer sounds broken. I have three 50W TnBs - a crocskin, a mk3 and an SV like this one.. and none of them sound like that! At one point I was using a pair of TungSol EL34b in the SV (I think..) which did have some crazy compression going on. Not quite like this though. Full disclosure, the mk4 SV I have is very much modified, the tone stack and coupling caps tweaked, second stage cathode bypassed and I added a mid pot.. But even before all that it was still totally solid sounding and composed at full tilt. This one here needs some tlc.

The Selmer is definitely more fuzzy with less definition in the low and mids but still sounds great. I really like the Marshall though!

Johan I'm surprised you didn't put the guitar through the Bass channel and overdrive that. If there was a criticism of the T'n'B 50 in the old days it's that it was brighter and less willing to break up. Of course with all the Boosts that came later the problem of break up disappeared. I don't know whether Selmer were looking to incorporate some of the 'brashness' found in the AC30 when it came to Pre-amp design ? I've got two Selmers. A 10 Watt Concorde (Crocodile) combo and a T'n'B 50 Mk II. Both apart at the moment in the middle of re-capping. I've had the Concorde since '74; it was old even then. Now has a 'Black Back' in it ... My Mk II 50 must've belonged to someone of note; Jim Marshall gave it to a friend of his, the father of my girlfriend at the time. My first 'Proper' amp was a Mk III back in '69/'70. I didn't even have a cab to start with, just a Fane 60W 15" propped up in it's cardboard box ...

Hi Johan I find the Marshall sounding beter on lead and solo. The Selmer sounds like it is being run through a compressor, the tone cums in quite powerful like you did with the Eddy van Halen video where you turned down the voltage of the Amp to give it more punch. Cheers Johan

Ever thought about putting a Carlsbro TC-100 on the channel? I love mine.

The Selmer sounds more compressed to my ears but very sweet, very Marshall‘y 👍

Two great amps the Selmer Treble sure got 'Treble', well balanced and easy on the ear ...but you can't beat the Marshall low end sting !...great tone Johan

I like the Marshall for lead but the Selmer for rhythm.

the selmer feel so old !!! i find it cool even if i think it's hard to be heard in band with it

Selmer sounds great... it's like there's just less gain or power section breakup. Nice detailed breakup. Sounds like it would be real nice with some old alnico speakers

Johan you should try and find an old ac50, you will trip balls. I would love to hear you through one

Nice how you hid some stairway to heaven in there.the original would be totally illegal at my local music store... Now I need to go there and blast your version

Love the fartness of the Selmer, makes me think of early Rush sound.

Marshall sounds fuller in the middle-bass range, but the Selmer has its own character, it sounds like a "gentle viper" to me 😁

I rock either one! They both sound great, but the Marshall sounds a bit better! 😎

Selmer sounded great...a bit more compressed than the Marshall...I never got a chance to hear one,thanks!

Is thar compression I'm hearing off the Semler?

Nice ! Selmers are great amps. Zodiac !!’

Like them both!

The Selmer is sweet, very sweet. But that old Marshall is just a little bit sweeter. It has a certain mid-range advantage that clearly sounds smoother and will definitely cut better in a mix. I'm sure you could add some pedals to level the playing field, but straight-in, I give it to the Marshall.

Both sound amazing. I hear a bit more mid-range bark in the Marshall and bit more thin tone in the Selmer. But I'm quite surprised how good the Selmer sounds. In a Mix I could hardly tell which one is which. Great video Johan.

Seems like they would compliment each other combined, like the msrshall lacks something the selmer has and vice versa.

Both great.Marshall first, of course...Darker & fuller,richer sound,bigger headroom.

Surprisingly similar!!!

Both sounds awesome! But the Marshall steals it. I really want a JMP -77 with my -77 Marshall cab. (Säg till om den är till salu :) )

Have you played a 5150 yet? That'd be a cool video

To my ears -> The JMP definitely has more midrange in the sound. The Selmer does offer a nice crunchy treble though.

Can you get hold of one of the older crocodile skin Selmer amps? I would love to hear one of those cranked.

Selmer all the way for me!

What about Selmers from the 1950s?

Marshall has more mid low presence Selmer more bite on the high end but missing the low mids .

Seller seems a little more distorted ? Or more “nasty” 😂 ....but cleans up better ? ..love’m both though.....

Selmer sounds like a cranked silverface with the bass rolled off- its got that squishy compression in the midrange. Does it have a tube rectifier, Johan? Marshall wins here for me, but the Selmer would probably sound good doubletracked with it.

That first riff is honestly just so cool

selmer is amazing amp.wow.

At 5:00 the selmer definitively won the race!

The Gibson/Marshall combination is so familiar that there's always a danger that anything else begins with a handicap simply by sounding different. But the Selmer has its own sound, and I wonder whether it isn't actually better at bringing out the character of the Flying V. The Marshall's thicker bass and low mids tends to make any Gibson with humbuckers sound like a Les Paul. The Selmer with a different cab might also be a more sympathetic pairing.

Selmer for the win.

the Selmer is nice, but the marshall is the bar itself for what rock tone is measure.

Marshall had more quack and overall high end. To me it's the better sounding amp.

Prefer the Marshall - all round better IMO. Selmer sounds great but something missing for me!.....

selmer = more compressed, marshall = less compressed, I would like the selmer for recording.

I like you sir! 🙂👍

Maybe it just proves again that speakers do the most.

The winner is: Use both togheter 😎🤘

Very creamy sound from the selmer

Plug both in and strip the paint off the walls >: ^)

Going through the same cab, youre not going to hear an huge difference. Especially in band situations

I feel a subtle lack of Bass power on the Selmer. That’s all.

I think the Marshall sounds better, but not by much. My T&B cost peanuts.

Marshall