Sengoku Jidai: Battle of Kawanakajima 1561 

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Oh damn it's ParallelPain! We played Europa Barbarorum 1 together haha! Are you a professional historian?

Wow how many years ago was that? Small world! No I just have a bachelors degree in history and know Japanese and know where to find primary sources and modern research. For this one we were lucky enough that I was in Japan in late spring of this year and got to buy some books and also walk the entire battlefield myself. I really want to go to Japan to continue my studies, but that's a few years in the future.

i was wondering why there were no soldiers posted at Yokoda as it may have proven detrimental to Kenshin

That was 9 years ago! I'm just glad to see a former battle buddy, as a historical advisor no less! Hey, a question for you: Why did Japanese soldiers of the Sengoku era not have shields? Most pre-gunpowder era heavy infantry used some form of held shields, and the ones who didn't generally were compensated with very heavy armor. By contrast, the heaviest Samurai of the time still had many significant gaps in their armor, yet nobody thought to trade their yari for a shorter spear with a shield? I don't buy the Bushido bravado = no shield idea, since history shows that bravado was always secondary to practicality. I'm not talking about deployed shields for archers either; I specifically mean hand held equippable shields. And I'm not referring to pre-15th centry Japanese infantry, as I know they've had shields before. I'm wondering why the entire military society during Sengoku Jidai found the shield to be useless.

ShiftJay08 their fathers were warlords too. You'd be conquering sht too as a kid if your father were a warlord.

born into power

@@nomooon thanks man 😄👊 i can still conquer shit in shogun 2 so thats good

@@ShiftJay08 some say kessen is the shit

It's mostly just retainers doing most of the work there though.

He lost twice. So he obviously knew how to lose.

But why he lost tho

Atty's Thoughts 2 out of 48 victories... it’s the same as saying failing at something once makes you a failure forever

@@josetomascamposrobledano4618 comment was changed. original said Uesugi didn't know how to lose.

Well he is considered the "God of War" in Japan. Although with the 2 defeats definitely puts him in the range of human still

my thoughts exactly

y that was the case here too...

production quality is high compared to other channels. Bazbattles is just on another level

We pay for quality with time.

I went down to post this XD

Knowledgia You rule!!!!

i care about something now

WE ALL MISSED

800th like.

Calling another adult man your papa, damn you're gay

Balbo Vandall, I'd turn gay to hear a voice like that every morning

C'mon guys, this guy can't take a joke. Seems to me that he's extremely far up his own asshole to differentiate between what is a joke and what isn't. Enjoy life man! :D

@@elhorno6934 exactly they just dont get it

Green Bill lol

"Fuck it I'm going to do some monk shit"

Story of my life, 25 and getting too old for all this shit. Fuck it, gonna be a monk :D

And return as the God of War

He gave up very little. He was still a lord, still a warrior, was likely still having sex at least with men. It was likely a political move. He knew they’d want him back.

Good Banter with the amount of editing I imagine this takes you have to wait

And the research. He has to understand all these completely

Amen

Everytime I see one of these I end up playing it again

Same here 😂

I'm feeling more like Warband's 'Gekokujo' mod.

FIFTEEN FORTY FIVE

Time for Sengoku Rance ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I prefer to think he just said "screw this being a monk is less stressful" but yeah it is a certain possibility, Octavian also was about to renounce his powers one time but instead the Senate was like "no,no,no please stay" cementing his position

@@tyrannicfool2503 Could be both?

If you paid attention to Kenshin's military career, you would find that he had little ambition of become Shogun or whatever. pretty much everything he does can be understood as pre-emptive or purely defensive measures to hold on to Echigo and traditional Uesugi lands. Takeda Shingen, on the other hand, was always a bloody conqueror aiming at no less than ruling all of Japan like Oda Nobunaga. So yeah. I believe a less ambitious man like Uesugi Kenshin could actually be considering religious pilgrimage retirement seriously.

alexander did it as well to make his troops carry on following him

It would be something to consider... he might have done it to solidify his claim to be bishimontens heir.

it seemed more like Shingen was terrified and had to reevaluate how he thought of Kenshin. Kenshin was a rival of his, but until this point Shingen was considered to be the more powerful, respected, and well established lord and Kenshin was still considered a young upstart. Despite the Takeda army being nearly twice as large as Kenshin's, Kenshin was still able to completely outmaneuver Shingen and nearly kill him. The only reason Shingen survived this was because his army was so large and he was lucky enough to just barely hold on long until the other half of his army to come to his rescue. Even then his losses here were terrible while Kenshin's losses were not as bad in comparison. For the first time Shingen realized that Kenshin was more than a match for him and his dreams of northern conquest were no longer worth it since Kenshin was so dangerous. It must have been humiliating to be caught completely off guard and require rescue like that. Samurai were supposed to face enemies sword in hand, not frantically scrambling for cover while hiding behind a fan and needing the help of servants to survive. It made Takeda look weak and unprepared.

Kenshin didn't get off his horse and finish Shingen because Shingen was known to use many doubles ( one of his brothers who got killed in this battle served as his double, too.) Kenshin later said if he had been confident the guy was indeed Shingen himself, he wouldn't have left.

I think that was the second third or fourth battle... the first battle, this one, they had no respect for each other. The other battles were like that though.

I think this Kawanakajima is actually the 4th

He did mention it though. He just didn't introduce this details, probably so he could condense the information as much as he could.

lol me too :D

With how bad the AI is in that game, you could probably leave it running in the background and still recover with no problems...

@@MortyrSC2 lol

Mateusz Kotowicz true lol

I stopped playing Stellaris when I saw this was up!

LMAO

The Japanese would have just blown the wall to pieces... or bribe the garrison to their side

@@impatientsamurai6202 japanese didn't blow the wall, they surrounded it, deprived it, or burn wooden structure around it

Ahmad Niam no but this is free standing wall, not the fortified Japanese walls that were only the edge of the dirt grounds, making it succeptable to cannons

@@impatientsamurai6202 ...and there goes the surprise. you cant leave silently when you blow up something, can you?

That's the golden trifecta

Brett DuVale Or the first triumvirate

Accurate.

Don't forget Invicta and his Siege of Jerusalem!

totalwarplayer Uploading all 4 parts of the siege is taking longer than the actual siege.

Don't forget about the Odawara castle

And also don’t forget the Honoji incident

Don't thank god. Thank the editor

Takoyaki

I recommend facturas. That was my choosing, anyway.

Don't forget some sake

Making content?

GerackSerack I see you have played Shogun 2 too

There is a Histories and Lores season 7 video on it. It's fucking fantastic and I hope you see it soon. It illustrates the main points of Aegon's Conquest. It is meant to be a narrative full of twists and turns, not a historical hot fight

@@3numa3llis I've seen it, and I agree that it's fantastic. I just wouldn't mind seeing it in this form, like with his videos on Robert's Rebellion and the Greyjoy Rebellion.

napoleonic sp007rz i agree

It has branched to different military videos, Baz has some on Alexander and other battles too - this is his sengoku jidai series

This *is* him branching onto other military battles. His main focus is European battlefields.

@@KhanMann66 well I mean branching into things not directly related to any battles.

Because even they treated their enemys not with absolute cruelty like most would. Uesugi Kenshin once send Shingen salt when the Takeda had nearly none left while being at war with them for example and many of their generals were former enemys who they took into their ranks.

@@denniseggert211 Unfortunately the story is almost certainly a later creation. While there might have been some element of truth, in that Kenshin for whatever reason did not seem to have participated in the embargo, there's no record of him sending Shingen salt. Also they definitely treated their enemies with cruelty. Pillaging and burning is rampant in the primary sources, so we can only assume rape was as well. The Takeda is also on record to have sold captives into slavery.

Cool photo

Just a couple of the oldest ones. They'll be refreshed.

BazBattles It's good news that they're coming back and not just gone for good. I just noticed that it seems like all the oldest videos with the original narrator are gone - I'm assuming by "refreshed" you mean they're being re-recorded?

Yeah. Plus script revision & graphic overhaul.

Yes. No offense to the creator, but it's hard to follow the narrator with such a thick accent. Makes it hard to follow.

KhaanMan66 KhaanMan66 whatever but his accent is fine to me.... T_T so mean

Classic bullshit somalis cant get along and will never ever get along that unity and shit youre talking about we already tried that in the 60s so will arent falling for that again we are somaliland here and we will achive our Independence wether they like it or not

@@user-mq9yg5hs8b the japanese obviously said that exact thing.

Arion Erron hey yeah and maybe we would unite like them but not now maybe after 500 years in meantime we will continue fooling around

That is only the most annoying of hundreds of bad pronunciations. How hard is it to look up the names and learn to pronounce them. It isnt as if Japanese pronunciation is difficult for an English speaker. Its just a matter of looking it up! Please! Please! Dont torture my eardrums any more. These are great videos, but if you butcher the pronunciation this badly, it makes it almost impossible to watch!

Glad you liked it.