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I see where you're coming from based on how I know you like your games. You always give good reviews and you are always clarifying that it's how YOU feel, and you have no issues with others liking the game you are reviewing. I will say, the Garador does become two when you play on professional. And the enemies come in fast and furious. It's tough. Overall, I felt it was a great DLC and well worth the $10 IF you consider the base game was $60 and most AAA games are around $70. So in the end, I can see the $10 not being such a big deal. Also, you are probably correct. Capcom made enough money on all those "tickets" that they could afford to sell this at $10. At least it's a much better price than the Shadows of Rose DLC ($20) for Village (a "favorite" of yours) :) Keep up the great content! I love hearing your views on games.
@@Mr_Mistah It's a pretty simple story about a manufactured virus reanimating the dead and making monsters. That's how the first 3 games were. When you start getting into psychic powers, and leeches turning into people, and super hero backflips through laser hallways, you're a whole other thing. It's just a preference.
@@Mr_Mistah it's way more grounded than a game like re6, where simmons is basically a t-1000 zombie that turn into multiple much larger forms, including a t-rex and a centaur with a machine gun with unlimited ammo. shit like that is so beyond silly it does make the original feel grounded in comparison.
Honestly this dlc is absolutely amazing especially for just $10, they went above and beyond not just for the main game but the dlc too, the original Seperate Ways was just a lazily put together side mode that basically mixes up the different sections from the main game and replacing Leon with Ada, now it feels like an entirely different campaign, adding all the cut content from the main game while also adding new stuff in the process not to mention the dlc is at most 6 hours long which is almost as long if not longer than RE3 Remake, id say they knocked it out of the park
As much as I love the OG RE4 that I've replayed countless times. You're right about Separate Ways being lazily made. It was weird for me playing it for the first time and saying "There's barely anything new about this mode. It's the same as Leon". Playing the Remake DLC its fresh and new (story, characters, levels, etc). As an OG RE4 fan, I appreciate the game devs for delivering this amazing dlc just for $10.
exactly what I thought about it too. And personally, I think Ada's voice actress has definitely grown on me after playing separate ways. It fits ada's character more than the RE4 VA
the funny thing is, i had the bowser mod on for Krauser from the original main campaign and it was active during my separate ways playthrough and it made me laugh seeing "Bowser" jumping across and running away.
Separate Ways added more than enough for me, which was just more of this amazing game. And since I felt like that remake was fully worth the price on its own, $10 more for another 12-15 hours of content was a great deal
@@Sercil00challenge runs. I did a Hardcore playthrough first, then Assisted, regular Professional, and then S+ Professional. Doing a no heal, pistols and knives only run now, and then I’ll do a no Merchant run For me, half the fun in RE games is replaying them for challenge runs and such
Overall for 10$ i think it's great value. The DLC didn't blow my socks off but it was fun to revisit this game after 6 months with some new twists thrown here and there.
Mayo you made the same mistake I did - play the game on standard difficulty. Hardcore actually introduces new combat scenarious in contrast to the main game - the Garrador room has two Garradors instead of 1, for example, which makes the sequence much more thrilling.
I feel like the voice actress for Ada had no context for any of the lines she was reading. It’s baffling to hear the complete lack of situational awareness in her voice. It’s like voice acting from Sonic Adventure
@@b_ryce814nah it don’t got shit on this, it’s memorable yet boring and replayabilty is probably the worst with the enemies and set pieces being so damm boring, I really just like the parts with Ethan, eveline and Maranda boss fight with the op Symbiote tendrils abilities and ultra Instinct dodges but that’s about it and that of it self does not make it a good re dlc.
God damn the re fanbase is very diverse there ppl that love a specific scene then we’ve got some that hated it. It’s cool tho everyone has their own opinions.
i noticed that too. Probably because her Twitter/Instagram account was spammed with hate comments. still nothing beats Ada from RE2 Remake or even the Original from 1998.
Just want to leave this comment and share that Sally Cahill, Alyson Court and Catherine Disher will always be my GOAT for lending their voices to our RE Heroines. Even if Capcom continues to not bring them back. I hope that these women are living their best lives! And to the reader may you have an awesome day 😁
too bad they already permanently ruined ada in this otherwise great game. it's beyond annoying to me that they did this. i wasn't a huge fan of her voice in re2 remake personally, but that would have been drastically better than this. and considering they kept the same voice actor for leon, it was a completely unnecessary and stupid change. and if they really wanted an asian to voice ada, i'm sure they easily could have found someone to do it better than this. they didn't even try, they just gave her the part because apparently she briefly played ada in an re movie that nobody even liked.
Seperate Ways is an amazing DLC. Love how long it is the controls are still just as good as the main game. All of the moments are pretty much in that were missing i cant believe they even found a use for the laser hall lol. I think the cutscenes are very interesting in showing how the stories intersect. And Ada's grapple utility is great. This is just as good as base game in terms of gameplay quality imo. Obvs the main game is better and it has exploration and all that this doesnt as much. Wesker also was done super well here. I have nothing bad to say about this DLC
Seperate ways was not in the original release of RE4. It was added when the game ported meaning you were paying at least 50 for it and possibly buying a new console to play it.
Furthermore, 10€ for this AND with the free expansion to Mercenaries is an outrageously good price for a AAA DLC. Some other games are selling a single of the multiple unlockable costumes for that price.
I don't really agree with this argument. It was Added it in the PS2 version and it's been in every version since so people are going to expect it to be there at release along with Mercenaries and Assignment Ada. After playing Separate ways in the remake the wait didn't bother me anymore because they added a lot more content to this version of separate ways.
He does clarify that it was in the OG PS2 release in the video via a text comment. That was done post-recording of the video, so rather than having to rerecord his review, or try to "edit" that correct in via a re-recording of that specific statement, he instead put in text to state it was part of the PS2 release, not extra content you had to pay for like in the remake.
Why does everyone act like the GameCube version was the most popular version? It wasn't. Most people who have experienced this game have played it on a different system, all of which have included separate ways for free by default This is really a lame and tired argument
@@solidsnake21 of course its not a masterpiece, but it warrants the price. Just seems like whatever the devs do its never enough for some and they opt for nitpicking.
In my opinion, the voice acting is realistic. Here’s why; she’s a spy who’s intentions and thoughts we are not supposed to really figure out completely, even as we play as her, so the monotony is suiting. The og voice acting for SW was just this sexy kind of thing and absolutely no woman talks like that irl, the remakes aim for a more realistic picture and characters, I mean come on. What did everyone expect? For her to give a bed voice all along?
Ahhaahha, realistic is what kills the whole re 4 remake what made it great was the “B Movie” tone it’s had Leon not taking serious the iluminados, Ada doing the sexy but confident voice, common dude you say they went for realism, the game is about 1 dude who takes on a whole squad of Spaniards stucked in the 18th century what are you talking about
@judgmentstar843 there's nothing wrong with realistic approach, that's just down to taste. You could prefer the b movie silly stuff the OG did but you could also think its overly stupid like why did Salazar activate that spike trap to kill Leon and Ashley, Ashley is needed to complete their plan, even Mikami himself said it was dumb. Theres many moments in the OG that's fun but in a cartoon way and does take away the seriousness of it all with how ridiculous it is.
The problem is that getting an audience invested in the character, particularly when we hear her internal monologues, is much tougher to do when she sounds flat and monotone most of the time. The game (or maybe it's just the fanbase) has attempted to justify this by saying that she's "warmer" in her internal thoughts than how she speaks with most people, but even those internal dialogues don't sound too different. If anything, she comes off as just as flippant towards Leon in the DLC as she does in the main game. I don't agree at all with the notion that Ada's VA went for a 'realistic" tone. She reacts the same way to making the decision to reject Wesker's offer (and weighing the fate of billions in her mind) with the same kind of gravitas as she does at the very beginning of the game when she's "negotiating" with Luis in that hokey tango scene. It would make more sense if there was some in-universe justification for this -- and EU materials don't cut it -- but it doesn't, and it makes her look more disaffected and passive than anything else. The original RE4:SW had Ada putting on a "femme fatale" persona, both in her internal monologues and her conversations with other characters, because it fit in with the slightly-ridiculous tone of the whole game (the Merchant being overly excited to sell you stuff in the middle of a plague, Leon dismissing Salazar's taunts, and the whole vibe of the Krauser/Leon rivalry being something akin to a B-movie. RE4R doesn't have that kind of excuse for the majority of its runtime, so when you get into Ada passively downplaying being chased through a laser hallway and nearly getting bisected or Wesker outright dropping the line "complete local saturation" as a nod to RE5, coupled with her responses, it comes off as more tonally jarring to the whole experience.
decided to stop listening around mid-point, maybe you should just stop playing RE games because they are all more or less the same. Also, it is just a DLC not a full new game, what do you expect?
@@underthemayo I think a problem with modern gamers like you, i think is because you expect them too re-invent the wheel every single time instead of just being an add-on to the game. They can't for instance put in new common enemies because game-wise wise it won't make sense.
@underthemayo the og separate ways was slapped together and didn't even have different songs for different areas. It was still good but this is just better.
To me the point of Separate Ways is unlocking a spy thriller behind the original story, it was always my “grand prize” to get to play as a superspy sleuthing around with her own objectives. It turns the game from a survival horror into a pseudo spy thriller, and for what it does with the hookshot, improving Ada and Luis’ dynamic, overcoming her stalker, and cleaning up her story with Wesker, I think it did brilliantly. Personally I think the Lazer Room was done substantially better. As it just appears randomly with Leon, with Ada, it’s something you’d expect a superspy to face. Adding Mannimarco also made it more intense and calls back to her sly escape from Mr. X in the sewers. Essentially, this time Separate Ways shows how Ada ascends into superspy extraordinaire instead of just trying to convey a B story.
@@Mr_Mistah theres no horror in RE2 or RE7? are you sure? Having the posibility to use weapons against the enemies doesnt make the game a pure action game
I think it is one of the best DLC we got in recent years. Considering all DLCs we got from other games, especially the so-called AAA games, are mostly not good. About Ada's voice acting. I think Ada is intended to have that flat performance like that to show her jaded vision of her current life. She is at the point where working for the highest bidder do not really excite her more. Her heart is screaming in pain. So maybe this encounter with Luis and Leon will turn her into a spy with heart of gold and she will start taking job that actually is for greater good. Or maybe I am just looking too much into her portrayal.
No dude, stop with the coping. Ada's voice actress has simply no talent for voicing characters. I don't want to sound like a jerk, but you're just trying to cope right? If it is that I can at least understand it. Even when she gets chewed in half she sounds like she is bored.....Its like hearing speakers without tweeters, there is no spark at all in any of the sounds she makes lol.
@@theHeartlessNooBI agree she is bad at voice acting, but I think the director wanted Ada to have a flat and monotone voice. It's evident in her reaction to a lot of what's going on through the DLC. It's almost as if she couldn't care less about what's happening throughout her traversal through the village, castle, and island.
@@samspade8830 If only she was bad at voice acting. Then she would come off much much better. On par with Wesker. He is pretty bad, but at least he is trying with his lines. This woman has absolutely zero talent for the job. Nobody told her to sound boring and monotone. Nobody would want that. I think what you mean is that she should sound cold and be cautious of everyone, distant even. But we aren't using those words are we? No, we are using "monotone" "flat" and I will even add "lifeless". Too bad auto tune can't save her lol.
@@theHeartlessNooB "If only she was bad at voice acting" She is bad at it. But I can tolerate it, because the game was fun. But I think the intention of the voice acting director was to make her flat. I can tell by her delivery that someone told her to deliver these lines in a careless and flat way.
@@theHeartlessNooB "Nobody told her to sound boring and monotone." Were you there when voice acting rehearsals were taking place? I was t, but it's clear to any smart person that Ada is intentionally unimpressed with the events in the DLC. If you can't hear this, then you must hard of hearing. It's clearly intentional. Combine that with poor voice acting and this is what we got. A better voice actress could've pulled this monotone and flat voice acting off better.
Honestly i agree that its not as great as most people are trying to make it seem. Its a fun distraction gameplay wise. I could not handle all of Ada's quips trying to be like Leon, and her literally saying everything that happens on screen. I may not agree with your smaller criticisms, but at least can agree that its overhyped.
I've already beaten the DLC several times, but I also have the advantage of not playing with english voices. The german voices are great too, including Ada.
anything would beat her english voice. it still disgusts me that they even did this. an otherwise great game but they had to ruin one of our favorite characters by casting the worst possible voice for her. i was literally glad most of her scenes were cut in the base game, and i was never at all hyped for this dlc all because they ruined her. such a pointless change too since they kept the same voice actor for leon.
@@underthemayoI think it was the moment where you mention Jill is a “teenage girl that can’t even move while she aims” fights a tyrant as part of a game you love, but then like 20 seconds later, you have an issue with Rebecca the nurse fighting a tyrant in RE0. Least that’s what stood out to me.
@@empty_melodies Rebecca comes across way less as a capable fighter than little cute Rebecca in RE1. And the comment about Jill really isn't supposed to be taken so seriously like some people insist. It's just a funny exaggerated way to say something. Like saying in Uncharted you "run around murdering people" as a way to exaggerate and laugh at how much violence there is on the adventure.
I politely disagree with one thing, in the lab where the new monster just pops out, yes it was short and not a new enemy to fight but it is building up to what we will fight in RE5 remake because its the superior gene thingy and the enemies that Wesker will implant with this virus will be tougher to kill.
what didn't make sense to me at the end of re4 remake is how ada chooses not to deliver the sample to wesker, when re5 already verifies that she did give him the sample. not only did they completely ruin her voice, but they go on to completely change story elements that don't add up.
Agreed, I think original RE4 with its major plot holes really messed up the story of the RE universe. In the RE4 remake its said that the world changed well how lol? they dont expand on this. On another note does the second phase of U3 look a lot like that flying moth boss from RE5?@@Jack_80
@@Jack_80she doesn’t give him the sample in re4 she gave him a recessive one not the the dominant one which leads wesker to taking krausers body. The same happens here except ada doesn’t give a sample period.
Great and fair critique, personally I don't share a lot of the same opinions but you're my most favorite reviewer just because of how fair you deliver your critiques
Pretty much hit the nail on the head. Ada's new voice made it hard to get through the DLC at times, I remember when Luis's lab burns down in particular. His voice actor is giving the performance of a lifetime so that you really feel his desperation and investment...then Ada comes in with the utterly flat, "Get ahold of yourself. Just make more." with zero inflection to the delivery like she was cold reading right off a script without direction or context for the scene. I do find it both ironic and a degree infuriating that Separate Ways managed to fit in twice what RE3 Remake did for around 1/7th the price because it shows what they could do and SHOULD have done for RE3 Remake instead of giving us that dumpster fire for $70
The unique enemy/boss that chases you to the lazer room caught me off guard completely, so i thought that was dope. U3 fight was a bit underwhelming tho, i think the original fight was better/creepier
@@davidmcnally6791Yeah, that's also why I don't mind that the Krauser fight was cut. Even with the grappling hook as a mechanic, it would have been repetitive just playing the same knife fight from the base game but with Ada. They also kinda just shoehorned that fight in in the og SW.
@@gamingcinema8836 Exactly and the og separate ways just copied alot of the fights from the base game such as the village fight and the bunker fight. I do miss the cage section but even if they added it in it wouldn't have been as good as the original as we know he survives it. The hallucination sections was put in in place of that which also serves as a nod to the prototype Resident Evil 3.5.
I understand where you are coming from but I do think you are being overly critical. For 10 bucks I enjoyed the content. To me it wasn't meant to be groundbreaking. It was just a little new slice of RE4 and that is what I got, so I liked it. Its not as good as the base game but it wasn't such a huge investment in money to make me angry like the RE3 remake. But hey to each their own.
For $10, I think it's totally worth it. If you do the challenge runs, it's easily 15+ hours of content. One playthrough was just over 6 hours for me. As far as how good it is, I largely agree with everything you said, it's RE4 Remake, but not quite as good. I think the strongest thing I agree with you is that there are no long special enemy encounters like in the base game. The base game has plenty of good bosses, but most of my favorite parts of the game are things like the opening village fight, the cabin fight, the water room, the double garador room, and the crane fight. Long intense combat encounters with multiple waves of enemies. Separate ways really doesn't have much of that. I agree that the caged in knight fight was the only thing that even came close. As a side point, I think it's pretty bad that Capcom made upgrade tickets for money, but I also think it's pretty stupid to buy them as well, since you're gonna trivialize the game that way. Just play on easy mode if you want an easy experience, why do people pay to win in a single player game??
On the topic of the DLC tickets, I can truly say that I don’t care about stuff like that. Let people play however they want in a single player game, and if someone wants to buy some tickets to make a Pro S+ run easier or something then they can go right ahead. I think it takes a large part of the fun of it away, but at the end of the day it doesn’t affect me. But if it means that Capcom makes *bank* then it also probably means they’ll try and make RE5 remake along the same lines as RE4. And I’m gonna be honest, I’m absolutely _drooling_ for an RE5 remake. A full co-op game in this engine and style sounds so good
Although I do agree with the tickets. I understood that a lot of people have numerous responsibilities like kids, so they don't have enough time to play the game as much as some of us.
@@antviper135 I mean....I agree that it doesn't harm anyone. Pay to win is only harmful in competitive games, so in a single player game like this I don't technically care if people use it. I'll just never understand the mindset of saying "hey, I wanna beat this challenge, but instead I'm gonna pay money to sidestep the challenge instead".
I think you’re being a little too harsh on this dlc, but I understand you have high standards for games. It’s funny seeing other people in this comment section take your opinion so personally lol
Totally agree with the awful voice acting for Ada in this dlc and the main game. It's so monotone and uninterested. I went back and listened to her voice in RE2 and it's so much better! Why break what was perfect?
The blame for Ada's voice acting goes more to the ADR than the actress herself, i think. The ADR is the one who decides how the lines should be delivered.
True, but if you can stomach it, go back to Welcome to Racoon City at the end where Ada comes after Wesker "wakes up" in the body bag (a nod to the RE Remake game with the body bag rising up in the menu). The actress in the movie is the same person and she delivers the same dead-pan sounding dialog to him. So, I think that's how she just delivers her lines. Whether that's how she talks when acting, or it was her or the director's choice, is something we'll never know. Some blame can still go to the director because they could try and tell her to show more emotion. Or if the director WANTED the dead-pan, emotionless dialog, she could have argued that she wants to show more emotion if she didn't like talking in that way. In the end, we have no real idea why it was allowed to go this way. I didn't find it as bad in the DLC as I did in the main game, and maybe they wanted to portray Ada as having shut off her emotions, which I can get. Maybe like Mayo said, in the DLC I just became used to it because now I don't find it as grating as I did initially in the main game. In the end, it didn't detract from the enjoyment of the game for me and now I'm trying to finish up my last final achievement which is S+ in Professional. But I also need to do S+ in assisted, standard and hardcore as well to get all unlocks. Then one final is the S+ in all maps for all characters in Mercenaries to unlock the RPD costume for Leon. Fun times!
Come on, the actress sometimes even refuses to put any clear stress on any syllable. That has nothing to do with the ADR. This same kind of argument keeps popping up with regard to Megan Fox in MK1. She has a very similar issue, but puts stress on the wrong syllables or just has very odd cadence. In addition, she sounds like a spoiled Valley Girl who doesn't put enough emotion or aggression behind things. Again, even if you put the actress in a booth, fail to direct her and just say "GO ON, START ACTING. DO IT!", it's still worse than expected.
You can still have a monotone voice and not sound insufferable. Take Raven from teen titans as an example. The voice actor simply did not do a good job voice acting
nah, her voice just doesn't match the character in the slightest and she just has terrible acting skills. no amount of direction is going to turn her into a decent ada. it still annoys me so much that they had to screw up one of the main characters in an otherwise very good remake. i was glad they cut most of her scenes from the base game because of how horrendous her voice acting is, and i felt no hype for the dlc whatsoever. if they had kept her same voice actor like they did for leon i'd be all over this, but they completely ruined the character for me.
For 10 dollas this hoe went HARD. I get wanting “more” but the length of the DLC and the grapple gun adding just enough of a new combat loop was well worth it.
idk why but the black lipstick mod for ada feels like a design thing that should’ve been the base design, it’s something so small but very good looking. wish i was on pc lol.
Actually it wasnt originally in the game. When resident evil 4 first released, it came with mercenaries and assignment ada. When it was re released on ps2 its selling point was Seperate Ways.
Ada's English voice is horrendously bad, its not funny or cute that CAPCOM gave us another big **** YOU by refusing to cast someone else. Wesker's English voice is also terrible, but still better than Ada's. He sounds extremely generic, but at least doesn't sound like he's falling asleep. Since these new games tend to try to be more movie like, its jarring to see the choices they made for voice actors and actresses. I think the DLC started out fine, but towards the last 2 hours it starts turning more and more into a SONY scripted movie game. A solid 5/10 for me.
What I personally think they should next which would be new and inventive, is doing a single player campaign ad Luis Sera. Now, my money will definitely go straight there, because I still wanna know what he got up to before and after. I know what he was doing and why, but they could little details that could add a lot more context and back story to Luis and the main story. I agree, Luis Sera is brilliant. I love his look and personality. Especially that intro in SW with Ada. Such charm and class. The man’s got style. So, who knows. We probably won’t see anything like that but maybe some day. Can still dream, right?
Ada was already working for Wesker in RE2. There are even cutscenes with Ada talking to Wesker on the Phone in Raccoon City. She also told Krauser in RE4, that she worked for Wesker long before him. Wesker was always foreshadowed. You just don't understand RE lore.
@@underthemayo she literally spoke to him when Leon was unconscious maybe if you knew RE lore you would know these things and wouldn’t have these L takes that are based in ignorance. Wesker has BEEN foreshadowed
Me playing Wesker in Mercenaries, almost dead, no healing items, finding the chicken "YOU WILL GIVE ME AN EGG!!!" (shoots it, it literally saved my run) "IT WAS IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO ASSIST ME!!!" I love RE5 Wesker. That's the kind of cheesyness I miss from the remakes.
I don't think the $10 is a huge issue, since the game initially was $60. Plus, on a technicality, if you bought the original Gamecube RE4, you wouldve then had to buy a whole new console and game to play Separate Ways, assuming you didnt have a PS2. I actually liked that some of the locations in the og RE4 became Ada excluives. It allows Separate Ways to stand on its own feet, rather than being a glorified re-tread of Leon's campaign.
To be honest og separate ways was not "free". If you already had the gamecube version and wanted to experience it you would have to buy the full game again so... I don't know, I prefer this way
I loved this DLC, it actually knocked my socks off. Mainly due to the length and original story we got from it. Was much longer than I expected, on top of an already long game. Definitely worth $10, I'd pay up to $30 🤷♂️ I paid full price for RE3R back in the day and it's longer and more fun than that game
Agree on most of the combat encounters being tame compared to the base game. During my first playthrough I walked around with a lot of ammo and kept waiting for more enemies to show up then I’d shoot like 2 guys and break a million boxes. Best parts were the knight room, garradors room, and red cultist hedge maze Island was by far the best part since it started throwing more at you
I dont understand why they keep the B team around these main projects , but I'm glad they kept them busy with the Autotune Ada B-Sides & away from the main game. Just a beautiful, masterful remake
Most likely so they can work off the tools and narrative the primary team has. They’re probably hoping to develop them and having them involved with the main team gives them guidance and also more oversight.
@@underthemayo I guess, but I thought it was pretty cool death scene. Also, in the notes, it says Martinico was an indestructible bioweapon. You mentioned that it would've been cool to fight him, but what would be the point?
@@samspade8830 You don't have to fight him with weapons. You can trip him up with hazards. You can catch him in traps. You can outsmart him with movements. There are many ways to "fight" indestructible foes.
@@underthemayo I guess so. I'm not really that upset about the chapter where you encounter him. I think it would've worked out better if Ada didn't escape him, she would get killed. It was a little too easy just running forward to avoid him. It would've been neat if, for example, the locked door with the code was timed when he was chasing Ada. Instead of pausing the game to allow the player to escape, it would've been cool if you had a 10 second limit to enter in the code. Something to make his interaction with Ada a little more challenging.
I definitely agree on your criticisms of Separate Ways. What I thoroughly enjoyed was how much more fleshed out it felt. The original felt very thrown together at the last minute. Sort of like RE4 Mercenaries with Ada, but linear if you will. Having some of the missing elements of RE4R in this DLC felt nice since it up the stakes a bit for Ada’s side while also closing the book on missing content. I will say this though, the professional run with the Garrador fight left me with two of them and it was beyond a challenge when I had to keep quiet while simultaneously fighting off several types of enemies. I absolutely feel you for the original enemy with the lasers, I liked seeing them but that whole sequence felt like RE3R all over again with the hold up and press this button to dodge sequence. At that point you could TELL the B team was responsible for it. Overall though it felt solid and I was mostly happy about the addition, especially since we got the additions to Mercenaries that absolutely heightened the fun. If they decide to make RE5 again, I can’t wait for the parrying effect to be included with the ability to walk while shooting. This and the gameplay mechanics added to Mercenaries absolutely will slay. Here’s to hoping 🤞🏻
It is a double Garrador fight, but only on professional difficulty. In general I think you get a lot more out of this if you play another playthrough on professional. Once you have an idea of the sequence of events and layouts but want a more substantive challenge; esp on a NG run of it or going for S+. Except for El Gigante, that fight is complete trash in NG Professional.
saying that separate ways dlc was free is wrong though ,cause it wasnt at all, people had to buy the whole game again on a completely different platform back in the day
Gc players were the original players of the game man ,that's how the game was first released. Half a year later it was rereleased with separate ways included at full price on a completely different platform ,how can we ignore such thing???.It honestly is no different than releasing a bundle edition .So yes saying that separate ways was free is completely false
@Philpot1992 It wasn't even the most popular version. Most people who have experienced this game have played it on other systems. Which means they have played versions where separate ways was included for free by default
I didn’t mind the price tag mainly because of the main game being guitar cheap for Morden games and also imo I thought this was one of the best dlc in resident evil
I enjoyed it, but I agree, it was good, but not amazing. I think my biggest issue with it was the pacing. The pacing felt weird. Opening the game with the U3 fight, then the cannon/trebuchets section (arguably my least favorite part of the OG RE4make) immediately after, followed by another U3 fight soon after--all this when you've barely collected or upgraded anything. It was a very rocky start. I also prefer the U3 fight in the original with the collapsing platforms, and I also think the gondola section wasn't in the right spot. The gondola section in RE42005 was in the beginning of the game when you just had a bolt action rifle, but having it at the end of the DLC when you have all this upgraded equipment made the section kind of weaker. Also, just a note: That Garrador room actually does have two Garradors in it on Professional mode. Which is also weird because I feel like Hardcore should have two as well, but only has one.
Here's the thing. If they did the crate thing just like it was in the original, it wouldn't be very exciting would it. I will admit, it just being in a little patch of ground is kinda boring, but the centipede actually detaching from Pesanta and dragging you down to a lower level and then a Tremors like boss fight was hype.
I would really like to know what you think of Code Veronica, I think you mentioned it in the past but I never understood whether you like it or not. As a lover of the original trilogy, I really liked it.
@@reach769 How about the free DLC update for Celeste? The super cheap DLC for Dead Cells? The 10 dollar pass for 2 massive DLC experiences in Doom Eternal?
This DLC was superb! Edit: Wow, I strongly disagree with most of this review. I love the new additions and the return of cut content. The reason the cut content like U3 and the lasers were in Separate Ways instead of the main game was to make the experience feel different and unique. They did such a great job doing that. Please tell me what about the OG Separate Ways stood out to you from the main game? Not much tbh, that’s my point. Plus, you fight TWO Garradors on Pro but of course you wouldn’t know that with you saying you won’t play it again. I don’t think you really experienced this to the fullest. I don’t see how you find this experience “tame”. I don’t think you gave it a fair shot tbh because you yourself said you were already over Resident Evil 4. You were already uninterested from the moment you started playing. Edit: The laser room was disappointing??? They gave it a reason for existing. How can you at least not admit they did it better than the original? They introduced a freakin’ monster in the laser room, for crying out loud lol
Just a minor correction in this video he referred U-3 as male, it's actually a female, Pesanta also known as the Black Robe, she was the loyal housekeeper of the Salazar family, Isidro aka "Verdugo" was the one who turned Pesanta into U-3
I keep seeing people get this wrong and I think it's because either A. No one reads the files B. They're so used to assuming both monsters were male so they just stick with that.
@gamingcinema8836 for a content creator to make such mistakes is kinda like they don't see much value in their materials or simply laziness tbh, a week ago another veteran RE content creator he has been making RE related stuff for almost 15 years on RU-vid and in one of his "in depth" reviews he didn't know what the novistador are called so he just called them bugs!
They have a new boss fight. They have a new giant that chases you. Why not have a new common enemy she encounters? Easy to justify. DLC missions add new enemies all the time.
@@underthemayo I understand. I feel the monster you speak of isn’t technically new. You see it all through Leon’s campaign. It’s just Ada who comes a cross it in battle. I think of Separate ways almost as a Claire type of play through. I wouldn’t expect Ada to have a bunch of new enemies coming her way. While running around the same time as Leon just,”Separate Ways.”
@@desudesudesudesudesudesu I don't remember. When I play RE4 I either play professional or whatever's right under that. Difficulty level has nothing to do with what I'm discussing here though.
10€ is a fair price point though, it's definitely worth that. You're making good points as always, but I had a good time, played though it 3 times and that's more than other games give me relatively speaking (compared to money spent).
I agree mostly, although I do think Ada's VA did get a little bit better. I know because whenever the DLC plays one of the cutscenes from the main game, you can instantly tell the change in voice. I miss RE2R Ada so much though...
11:19 that's actually a surprise!! While I know that you won't like the qte moments of the game for sure, I hope you will enjoy the combat: weapon swapping to shoot faster with certain weapons, sliding, melee and counter attacks make me love the game (even though it is a bad resident evil) Can't wait!!
@@onceyougozach2607 true, maybe we are going to have a titanfall 2 type of situation: you have all these cool mechanics but they are meaningless (if you don't play merc mode for high score or no hope difficulty like you said) One thing he will like for sure is the "respawn mechanic" on no hope: when you die you don't get all your hp back, you need to always play well to keep your hp in a good state
I dont even think $10 is an issue honestly, yes the ps2 version was free but lets be honest here, the original separate ways was nothing more than a crappy 2 hour asset flip with god awful music. Nowadays i think $10 for a dlc that brings back the old atuff in new ways and expands on those concepts, while giving us more engaging gameplay is 100% worth it. Id argue its a steal compared to what other games offer as part of their dlc offerings.
I don't try to dislike things. I love the base campaign. I thought this was okay. Pretty flawed but fun enough for a single play through. Sorry that's not enough for you.
Separate Ways was NOT free with the original game. The Original RE4 came out on Gamecube, and did not come with this. PS2 was the first console to have the Separate Ways content and that was bundled with the PS2 version on launch. The weapon upgrade tickets are optional. I bought a pack of 3x upgrade tickets only because it helped with S+ Speed runs.
How many people are going to blatantly ignore the visual when I said that that shows the ps2 copy and says "For the PS2 release, not the Gamecube." You guys are incredible.
@@underthemayobecause you said "the original comes with separate ways", how this can be off putting? If you say og, its gamecube, the only og and first release of residenet evil 4, you having a problem with a dlc not being part of the main product is really silly And furthermore; "og separate ways was a free extra campaing"; dude You are paying every penny of that extra content while buying the game that exist several months before
I'm not sure why you refer to re3remakes development as a singular team, that is a misguided and misinformed sentiment. Re3 remake was a joint effort between 3 development studios working in tandem; redworks (who directed), K2 and Mtwo. Yet most of the RE fandom only ever namedrop mtwo and pin the blame entirely on them for the games shortcomings which I find bizzare. Mtwo worked on re4 remake initially as main dev between 2018-2021 until dev1 stepped in and took the lead reigns away from them however mtwo was merely demoted to support team. Redworks and k2 also had a hand with support on 4remake. Mtwo are credited with executive producers on re4remake. Seperate ways wasn't created by the 'b' team whatever that means - it takes more nuance and no RE title has ever been created by 1 singular team (at least not the 2,3,4 remakes) SW was directed and Written by an individual named 'Yoshinori Kawano' who isn't apart of any of the aforementioned studios as you falsely claim.
@@underthemayo It's a dlc piece which was greatly expanded and included content excluded from the main game from OG4. I don't know what you was expecting, taper your expectations going forward. Yeah... I don't know why the common belief is re3 remake was created solely by mtwo. I hear it far too often and its a perpetuated fallacy. All it takes is to read the credits intently.
@@mrpussinboots4252 I made it very clear what would have made this a better experience. 1 new common enemy type to mix up combat. A few more memorable combat encounters. And smarter puzzle design. It would have taken it from something that was fun to play once, to something I'd like to repeat.
@@underthemayo I think the piece compliments the main story nicely. Gives context to certain key events and introduces new areas. What new enemy type would have worked? It would have been out of place and the reoccurring u3 fills that role. The only noteable addition that you mentioned was a puzzle like element for the laser room encounter. Sw was never made to contend with the main game. And a 4-6 hour first playthrough romp more than suffices.
I still hold my opinion that the Resident Evil 3 remake was the best of the bunch, followed closely by RE4 and then RE2. All of them have been phenomenal though.
RE3 Remake is a blast from start to finish. I find it to be one of the best paced narrative driven action games to date. I personally felt that RE4 remake was a slog on subsequent playthroughs...thankfully Separate Ways is paced like RE3 Remake and is far better than RE4 base game
The RE4 team has done an amazing job on the sound design. Gun shots, gun cocks & reloads are the best in the entire RE series imho. Rifles are still kinda meh, but the pistols are finally as loud as they should be.
Honestly, as much as I love this Remake...I only fear it success will make history repeat itself when it comes to survival horror games that come after it.
Agreed I'm pretty surprised by the amount of people giving this dlc a 10/10. It was just kind of alright. I would've liked the grappling hook to be more involved, maybe even manually aimed, rather than a context sensitive prompt.
Tbh, I'm fine with A Team handling the main game and B Team handling DLCs. That is what they should do going forward. The B Team excels with creating shorter, fast paced and reimagined content, whereas the A Team is far better at staying true to the original content. B Team makes superior soundtracks overall tho
its pretty okay for me, me and my friends bought this DLC together so it dont bother me that much if its not as good as the main game. Like you said, I prolly not gonna play it again anytime soon
I don't "get" this review. What do you mean by "you do the same thing here as in the main game"? What did you think they were gonna do with SW here? Why would there be separate, new enemies for Ada? It's the same island, same people. Why would they sent different kinds of enemies to them? I also don't get people who demand spazzy, emotional, dramatic Ada. This cold, distant Ada is way cooler. Nothing gets under her skin, she's awesome. The laser room sucked as though.
Also - 10$ pricetag for this game should not even be a discussion. The first SW was NOT included with the original. You had to buy the main game a second time for a different console to get it.
This guy contradicts himself multiple times on his reviews, im watching it because its entertaining to see how bad these youtubers are at articulating their ideas and thoughts lol
Too many cutscenes in this dlc, what is this, the new GOW? I hated how most boss fights were like: dodge, parry, get 2 shots in, repeat, the boss' have loads of health and you take damage like crazy even if they just as much as sneeze... like what is this? Resident souls? The drill puzzle was so underwhelming: shoot three of the same symbols you already shot, and know where they are while a slow drill creates fake panic, wow very engaging, but at least infinitely better than stupid lasers. In the first chapter once you get to the cannon, the other cannons can't actually shoot at you, so no need to panic... The claustrophobic room with armors was amazing though. All in all, I think I watched so much of your content, I predicted most of your criticisms.
