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SEPTA's NEWEST Regional Rail Station! 

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The extension to Wawa will add 1 station and 3 miles or 4.8 kilometers to SEPTA’s Media/Elwyn line. The Media/Elwyn line currently runs 15 miles or 24 kilometers from Universal City southwest to Elwyn, Pennsylvania. The majority of trains on this line continue east through the Center City Commuter Connection to run over the West Trenton and Manayunk/Norristown lines.
The extension to Wawa will be completed by the end of 2021. The cost of the extension is approximately $178 million dollars, and is being funded by the federal government and the state of Pennsylvania. Construction began in 2018, and as we’ll see, the vast majority of the project is complete. The new station will be called Middletown, as it is located in Middletown Township.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:57 SEPTA Overview
2:22 Middletown Overview
2:50 West Chester Line
4:28 Octoraro Branch
6:04 Chester Creek Branch
7:35 Musing
8:38 Elwyn Station
9:50 Williamson College
10:41 Glen Riddle
11:28 Lungren Road
12:11 Electrification
12:48 Lenni Road
13:15 Storage Tracks
13:59 Crossover
14:49 Middletown Station
16:34 Outro
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@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech 3 года назад
“Removing electrified rail transit in the 21st century is both sad and foolish” *Please* tell that to Port Authority in Pittsburgh 🙄🙄🙄
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Yeahhhh
@JoeyLovesTrains
@JoeyLovesTrains 3 года назад
@@TheFourFoot what are they doing? They closing down more lines?
@trashrabbit69
@trashrabbit69 3 года назад
Oh no, more BRT? I thought they were talking about bringing back the Brown Line. Is that what they're going for?
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech 3 года назад
@@JoeyLovesTrains The outer end of the Silver Line (known as the Library Line) from Washington Junction to Library is the subject of a “best use study”, which are fancy words for “We don’t want to continue maintaining this line and are looking for ways to get away with abandoning it”. They’ve reduced service on the line, they’re bringing back 2-car trains on the other lines but not on the Library Line, and are actively encouraging people to use the Blue Line instead. My guess is they’re going to eventually reduce it to a shuttle between Library and Washington Junction like they did with the Drake Line before getting rid of it entirely.
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech 3 года назад
@@trashrabbit69 Heh, we’re getting a “BRT” between Pittsburgh and Oakland even though everyone wanted rail and the project was at one point going to be rail. For perspective, Pittsburgh-Oakland gets over 3 times as much transit ridership as the entire light rail network, yet they think painting some red lanes on 5th and Forbes Avenues and cutting a few stops from the 61 and 71 bus routes will be the solution to the area’s transportation problems. Our politicians tell us “We don’t have enough money to fund rail” while several billion are being spent on new toll highways around the region that most people are against and won’t use.
@jonathanstensberg
@jonathanstensberg 3 года назад
Philly's regional rail system was huge prior to the collapse of private service. Virtually every line in the system was dramatically truncated by the time SEPTA regularized electric-only services in 80's. Newtown, New Hope, Bethlahem, and Reading all had services back in the day.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Indeed, it’s a shame that so much was lost
@arkitect156
@arkitect156 3 года назад
They do plan on trying to restore a bulk of what once was on the lines they have right now, but new lines are something else entirely. I dont think SEPTA has enough revenue and state money to get those done.
@gregarious119
@gregarious119 3 года назад
It'll be really interesting to see how the Biden plan affects some of these. SEPTA seems like a logical choice to facilitate the restoration to Reading, but it's now listed in Amtrak's plans with the current admin. I think if it's only Reading-Philly, SEPTA makes more sense. But if you had a way to make a loop PHL-RDG-ABE-NYC, that has Amtrak written all over it (and would be amazing for Berks and the Lehigh Valley).
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
@gregarious119 if Amtrak can pull that off, it would be awesome!
@gerryphilly53
@gerryphilly53 3 года назад
Bethlehem and Reading are outside the five county area SEPTA covers. Also, all four of the destinations you mention were non-electrified service. SEPTA tried to keep diesel-electric MUs to transport from Newtown to Fox Chase where electrification began but ridership wasn’t sufficient. I actually think New Hope was spun off by the Reading to the New Hope and Ivyland before SEPTA took control of commuter rail.
@mrrobot5963
@mrrobot5963 3 года назад
I wish SEPTA actually had good frequencies so that it's more like the RER in Paris.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Indeed...
@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife
@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife 3 года назад
How frequently do trains service the lines? Pre pandemic Metra (here in Chicago) was once every hour during non rush and once every 15-30 minutes during rush hours. Now is all over the place but about every 1-2 hours, though I expect it to revert to normal ops soon.
@jpgm2015
@jpgm2015 3 года назад
Yea honestly because they have a pretty extensive system. Like with good frequency it could def feel the void of some areas that aren’t covered by the subway
@mrrobot5963
@mrrobot5963 3 года назад
@@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife Not 100% sure but the Airport Line runs every half-hourly while the rest is every hour to two hours. Pre pandemic GO Transit (Toronto) ran trains every 15 min at peak on the Lakeshore Lines and half-hourly at other times. And as you heard GO is electrifying and upgrading their network to frequent RER service.
@mrrobot5963
@mrrobot5963 3 года назад
@@jpgm2015 Yep. The lines could really act as a second rapid transit system for the area.
@AsilEroom1
@AsilEroom1 3 года назад
As someone who lives right in this area, I really enjoyed this history! Thank you!
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
I’m glad you liked it! Thanks!
@joeplavin
@joeplavin 3 года назад
As a west chester university student, a rail line would make my life much nice
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
I can imagine!
@stephenlaarkamp7344
@stephenlaarkamp7344 2 года назад
As a follow up to this story from a local, the station's opening was indeed delayed to August 21st, 2022 (so less than a month from now) and the station will be named Wawa rather than Middletown if the signage at the station is any indication. Also, just yesterday, the borough council of West Chester voted unanimously to support an effort to restore service all the way back to West Chester. I was out hiking along the disused portion of the line between Wawa and a quarry just near Glen Mills, and the formerly broken rails have been temporary patched up, the weeds along the tracks have been cleared, and the tracks at the quarry which were on rapidly eroding ground were removed completely, likely to start work on stabilization and erosion management. From all indications thus far, it seems like SEPTA and the local governments are serious about restoring the service on the line to what it once was, so there is some good news to go with the annoyance of the delays. I plan to go to the new Wawa station when it opens on the 21st, so I can see for myself what it's like.
@MSRTA_Productions
@MSRTA_Productions 3 года назад
I live not far from the line. I'm happy to see Wawa being [re-]established. I went past though there before and it was looking good so far
@robertwshephard4454
@robertwshephard4454 3 года назад
You might be from the mid-West but being a former Philadelphian here your handling of the names of these places was OUTSTANDING!!!
@jhonezcronic
@jhonezcronic 3 года назад
Philadelphia’s population is growing EVER SO slowly ... but SEPTA’s MAIN PRIORITY should be extending the Broad St Subway up Roosevelt Blvd ... That’s what the area REALLY needs!
@blue9multimediagroup
@blue9multimediagroup 3 года назад
Tell that to the ppl that live up there and have fought it since the PRT era.
@jhonezcronic
@jhonezcronic 3 года назад
@@blue9multimediagroup well THOSE people are leaving the area now and the demand is great for a 29 minute commute to center city as opposed to at least an hour
@seanyates5769
@seanyates5769 3 года назад
Not the BSL because the BSL does not go into Northeast Philadelphia. It goes into Northwest Philadelphia through Nedro Avenue . However The Market Frankford Line does and that’s the line that would be extended if they do so. The MFL goes through Frankford Avenue and it has recently provided a 10 stop bus to go directly from Frankford Avenue through the entire Philadelphia section oF the Boulevard upward to Neshaminy Road in Bensalem into The Neshaminy Mall.
@295g295
@295g295 3 года назад
or -- Convert the Fox Chase line to link to Broad Street Subway. > 3:46
@jhonezcronic
@jhonezcronic 3 года назад
@@295g295 where would it junction? It maybe easier to take it up chestnut hill west, rising at North Philadelphia Station.. or just complete the Extension at Erie... those tunnels have already been started.
@eduardoramirezjr4403
@eduardoramirezjr4403 3 года назад
I always enjoyed riding Amtrak from Penn Station/NY to Trenton, NJ and transferring to SEPTA into Philly. Plus, I saved some money that way.
@alexharris2495
@alexharris2495 3 года назад
Lol why not NJ to trenton then SEPTA
@JessicaKasumi1990
@JessicaKasumi1990 3 года назад
Back when the West Chester Branch was operated by the PRR, most West Chester trains began and terminated in Media. They were Media - West Chester and Media - Philadelphia trains. Only a select few went all the way from Broad Street Station (and later Suburban Station) in Center City, Philadelphia.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Interesting, thanks! I didn’t know that.
@JessicaKasumi1990
@JessicaKasumi1990 3 года назад
Always glad to share my knowledge with others. :)@@TheFourFoot
@deaonrowlette8509
@deaonrowlette8509 3 года назад
So cool to click and see your city being featured. Great job!
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Thanks a lot!
@thomasroell8979
@thomasroell8979 3 года назад
Thank for an interesting video. I lived in Philadelphia for for 30 years and some time in Chester county. It brought back some great memories.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
That’s awesome! I’m glad you liked it!
@gwynethrachaelcooper1957
@gwynethrachaelcooper1957 2 года назад
I wish Septa would make a train route from Lansdale to Quakertown. I know it's a big dream, but Quakertown has grown a lot over the years. I think it would be worth the cost to upgrade the tracks.
@davegiles9624
@davegiles9624 2 года назад
Thank you for this interesting, thorough overview!
@elu0502
@elu0502 3 года назад
Finally a video about Wawa Station!
@stephenkeever6029
@stephenkeever6029 Год назад
Great well researched video with a lot of good information! Glad I found it.
@RMTransit
@RMTransit 3 года назад
Your best video yet! Especially the Tremont bit ;)
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Thanks a lot! Providing historical context really shines a light on how much better transit is today (comfort/accessibility/safety wise) and how lacking it is at the same time...
@christopherfranz3593
@christopherfranz3593 2 года назад
The Chester Creek Branch still had freight trains until the flooding in 1972. Remember seeing them go by, I think once a day, when I was a young child, playing with my cousin, who lived on Lincoln Drive in Brookhaven, just above Creek Road.
@gregarious119
@gregarious119 3 года назад
A perfect example of trail that would make an immediate impact for rail is the now Schuylkill River Trail that runs from Reading to Norristown (and then Philly). That ROW is tailor-made for the passenger rail restoration - already hits Reading, Exeter/Gibraltar, Birdsboro, Pottstown, Limerick, Phoenixville, and Oaks. But it's privately owned now and I imagine the pushback would be severe.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
That’s unfortunate. I’ve sure it would be useful though!
@maestromecanico597
@maestromecanico597 3 года назад
This is something I probably should know more about. Thank you for the update.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Glad you liked it!
@alanthefisher
@alanthefisher 3 года назад
I was looking forward to this video! Glad that you got to get out there!
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
For sure! Thanks the tip! Somehow I managed to miss your video on Philadelphia, and guess what came up first when I was looking for footage lol
@alanthefisher
@alanthefisher 3 года назад
@@TheFourFoot haha true, eventually I need to make the 2nd and 3rd parts of that video series 😅
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
For sure!
@SleepTrain456
@SleepTrain456 3 года назад
I'm always interested in a new rail station! Thanks for the video!
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Glad you liked it!
@interstellarphred
@interstellarphred 3 года назад
What I liked about exploring the Greater Philly system, is that it was most like the S-bahan operations witnessed in Europe. They at least appear to be forward thinking by referring to it as "regional" vs. "commuter" interconnecting to outlying commerce nodes, as opposed to being merely satellite parking in the middle of nowhere, intended to reduce vehicle counts on the radial highways during peak hours.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Absolutely!
@interstellarphred
@interstellarphred 3 года назад
Your passing comment on rail trails brings me back to the time I was heavy doing advocacy. The irony was not lost on me. as the political culture of suburbia often used a trail to preempt its use as a transit facility, its local supporters failing to appreciate the synergy of walking, cycling and mass transit to promote less car dependent land use patterns.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Absolutely. I know it’s difficult in some places to fit 2 tracks and a path, but it’s really the best alternative.
@obifox6356
@obifox6356 2 года назад
Great coverage of revival of my old home line. Sadly, the classic station where the WC and Octararo lines met was torn down. BYW: the Wawa convenience stores were an outgrowth of the Wawa Dairy. Cows grazed where the Hq. is now.
@frankdealy6281
@frankdealy6281 3 года назад
Great video, thanks! One note, "Wawa" is Lenni Lenape (pronounced Len-AH-pee) dialect, not Ojibway. The Lenape were also known as "Delawares" by the European settlers.
@transitguy
@transitguy 3 года назад
Great video! And I liked the history part!
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Thanks a lot! I’m glad!
@petersnelling9047
@petersnelling9047 3 года назад
I live about 3 miles from the new Wawa station and really appreciate your review!
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Nice! I’m glad you liked it!
@andrewbarnum5040
@andrewbarnum5040 Год назад
I also would LOVE to see service restored on those abandoned lines. I have walked that trail and they could restore service and leave part of the walking trail intact. Some of those abandoned lines would be near impossible to restore but as you said, fun to think about. The original tracks went beyond west Chester. That would be awesome to restore but they have built a few buildings where the tracks use to be so guess it's just something fun to think about.
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 3 года назад
Great review of this great line! I remember hearing that the West Chester Railroad is supposed to meet with Septa at Wawa (Middletown).
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Hmmm that’s interesting indeed!
@KrishnaDasLessons
@KrishnaDasLessons 3 года назад
THIS IS AN EPIC MOMENT!
@ayindestevens6152
@ayindestevens6152 3 года назад
If you’re ever in the NYC Metro Area again chasing R211s (if they ever get here) LIRR does have a new Elmont Station they’re building nr Belmont Park for the new Hockey Arena. Great Videos’s as always.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Excellent! Thanks!
@ayindestevens6152
@ayindestevens6152 3 года назад
@@TheFourFoot one of the platforms is due to open in the fall.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
That’s awesome!
@ElmerCat
@ElmerCat 3 года назад
I'd love to see your take on the Lackawanna Cutoff, which I understand is being somewhat restored to service. In particular, how would you compare its design characteristics to modern high-speed rail systems? It seems so ahead of its time - it's compelling to imagine how different our existing rail network would be, had it been built to the same standards as the Lackawanna Cutoff.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
I’m sure you’ve seen Alan Fisher’s video on that? I should do a video on it as well...it’s a really interesting piece of infrastructure!
@ElmerCat
@ElmerCat 3 года назад
@@TheFourFoot I had not seen Alan Fisher's video (until today), but I have watched most of Chuck Wash's videos about the Cutoff. With your knowledge and experience; as evidenced by your other excellent videos; I imagine you could tell the story concisely, yet with all the fascinating details of how it compares to real-life working railroads of today.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
I really appreciate that! It’s definitely worth a shot lol
@XBKLYN
@XBKLYN 3 года назад
They stopped running passenger service on the cutoff when I was a kid. When I got into my 30s I thought, this is a no-brainer, NJT will restore the ROW and I'll be taking joy rides on the line before I retire. Well, I retired 😩
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Ugh, yeahhh lol
@blackpanda7298
@blackpanda7298 3 года назад
Ouu, Toronto 😍 and mtl commuter electrification projects will make it normal to take commuter rail. It will be a win for both cities.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
I’m sure it will!
@medwaymodelrailway7129
@medwaymodelrailway7129 3 года назад
Like the video very much .Hope there more to come.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
There are!
@alexlannan5714
@alexlannan5714 3 года назад
Septa included a turnout for a future connection to the Octoraro spur near the new Wawa Station
@hykos1045
@hykos1045 2 года назад
The Cynwyd (kinwood) line is a very sad case of forgotten maintenance but the powers that be decided its redundancy with the Manayunk Norristown line justified its removal in the 1980s. University City has since been renamed "Penn Medicine"
@ponysrock11
@ponysrock11 3 года назад
They need to start allowing Apple Pay and Google Pay on septa there's no reason it shouldn't be available yet when septa key is contactless
@gregarious119
@gregarious119 3 года назад
This is SO true.
@ponysrock11
@ponysrock11 3 года назад
@@gregarious119 it’s honestly really annoying I would even be fine with paying the extra 50 cents if I could use Apple Pay like you can use Apple Pay to buy keycards and reload your key card so why not for the busses and the trains
@yvonneplant9434
@yvonneplant9434 3 года назад
Septa is going to start an upgrade of Septa Key so one can pay by apps.
@ponysrock11
@ponysrock11 3 года назад
@@yvonneplant9434 that would be nice I would love to be able to add my septa key to my Apple wallet or use any other contactless card
@AA_8184_1
@AA_8184_1 3 года назад
Thanks for a video from the Delaware Valley! Live in the area and excited to see the extension/resumption of service. I remember service to West Chester when I was very young.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Nice! Hopefully service will be resumed sooner rather than later!
@AA_8184_1
@AA_8184_1 3 года назад
@@TheFourFoot I agree! Hopefully it will!
@craigsped
@craigsped 2 года назад
Wow! Great job. For someone not from the area you pretty much nailed it except for, as you said, a couple of forgivable mispronunciations. I used to ride the line occasionally to West Chester back in 1980. Your drone footage was terrific as well. Kudos. There was also a short lived steam locomotive tourist line that operated between Wawa and Concordville in the late 1960s, know as the Wawa Concordville RR. There is some 8mm footage of it posted to RU-vid as well.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 2 года назад
I did run across some pictures of that railroad, but I haven’t checked out the video yet. Thanks a lot!
@angelmarie2281
@angelmarie2281 2 года назад
I would like to see an updated video once the station opens! It should be sometime in late 2022.
@luxurycardstore
@luxurycardstore 2 года назад
Wow wow wow! This was so FASCINATING. I live about a 20 minute drive from there and I didn't know even half of this interesting information. I thought the drone footage was just awesome because I live in this area, but I have never seen it from an aerial view. And yes it is difficult to know how to pronounce some of the names of places here. You are forgiven because at least you tried. On that note Cynwyd is pronounced like "Kinwood" Thank you so much for sharing such a beautiful story. I think I'll subscribe to your channel just because of this well thought out and truly educational video.
@joeynova3550
@joeynova3550 3 года назад
Just towards the end of the video you can see right before the station platforms is where the Octoraro branch would have headed west. Right now it's an access road for the station development. Though not a whole lot of development as you go out that line, it definitely heads out in a direction all on its own. It would provide service to an area that has none nearby. I think it makes a lot more sense to restore the Octoraro Branch then to resume service from Wawa to West Chester.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Interesting to hear. It would sure be neat to see!
@Shmoozo55
@Shmoozo55 3 года назад
Love the drone footage of the line between Elwyn and Wawa (Middletown) station. Not that it matters, but the word Lenni (as in Lenni Road) is pronounced "Len-Eye". I know because I grew up within walking distance of it in the suburban development (Riddlewood) that is seen along the north side of the line in your drone footage between Williamson College and the location of the old Glen Riddle station. I still live nearby and I am very much looking forward to seeing the opening of the Wawa (Middletown) station later this year, assuming, that is, they finish the work by then. Thanks for the video.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
That’s awesome! Yeah I’m glad I’m not the one saying it will be done by the end of 2021, but I’m sure it will be great when it opens!
@kimsoolee1880
@kimsoolee1880 3 года назад
Congrats to ppl in this area that will benefit from this
@galnetdor
@galnetdor 3 года назад
I've been looking forward for this station to open since they first started building it. I work in the Wawa Corp headquarters (Red Roof) and would love to be able to take the train to work. I'm a bit worried about part of the walk being along Rt 1 where the road is a bit narrow, but there is a wooded trail that leads to Red Roof not far from the overpass. Just hope they make sure there is a clear path to get to the south side of the tracks, as most of the infrastructure they are putting up is on the north side.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Yeah, hopefully that path will open sooner rather than later. Bike/pedestrian infrastructure always takes a back seat with timing.
@jameschristaldi8488
@jameschristaldi8488 2 года назад
Great video! I drive through there everyday. I'm in that new development a couple times a day. Looking forward to all the construction being completed very soon. I did read some people correcting your pronunciations, but I didn't read every comment. I will give you the correct pronunciation for Lenni Road though it is (Lenn-eye). 😉
@RedArrow73
@RedArrow73 Год назад
8:15 - on - it'a ALWAYS ALL ABOUT POWER!
@johns9571
@johns9571 2 года назад
I went by the Lenni and Wawa station locations this weekend (2/20/22). It doesn't look like much work has been completed at the Wawa station although, from Lenni on down the track infrastructure looks pretty much finished. To think, this station was supposed to open at the end of 2021.
@richkennedy326
@richkennedy326 3 года назад
Cynwyd is pronounced "Kinwood". Lenni Road is pronounced "Len-eye". Delco has it's own dialect. Ask Kate Winslet.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Thanks for the insight! Lol
@ulrichforever
@ulrichforever 3 года назад
And it's "New-Ark" not "Newurk". The Delaware one is pronounced differently.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Gotcha lol
@eyepicyou
@eyepicyou 3 года назад
@@ulrichforever It's not pronounced differently. It's pronounced the proper way. :) It's pronouned the way it's spelled!
@Railoffroader2
@Railoffroader2 3 года назад
So it should be hyphenated like above ☝️ LoL
@chief1b
@chief1b 3 года назад
Great video.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Thanks a lot!
@jordanalexander4331
@jordanalexander4331 27 дней назад
It would be really nice and valuable for septa if they were to restore all of the former regional rail lines and build maybe 1 or 3 more subway lines to help ease pressure off of buses and the MFL and BSL.
@keithsottung7231
@keithsottung7231 3 года назад
Nice video!
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Thanks a lot!
@DanCohoon
@DanCohoon 2 года назад
Grew up next to the West Chester Line in Glen Mills. No trains ran on it then. Spent most of my child hood playing on the tracks
@MariusRenn
@MariusRenn 3 года назад
That's some real low density housing being built there 😓. Anyways, awesome video as always!
@joeynova3550
@joeynova3550 3 года назад
They're putting these cardboard box houses all over the area. What was a nice wooded area is now covered in these crap houses. They are building row homes nearby also.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Indeed, it’s not very dense, but given America’s housing shortage, it is better than nothing. Thanks!
@timosha21
@timosha21 2 года назад
Choo choo! I'm a train and I approve this excellent video!
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 2 года назад
Thanks a lot!
@gerryphilly53
@gerryphilly53 3 года назад
An additional difficulty with rerouting through the Chester Creek Branch is that the trackage it would connect with in Chester is actually Amtrak’s Northeast Corridor, meaning SEPTA service is subordinate to Amtrak. The Media Branch is fully under SEPTA’s control. The Trenton and Paoli Lines are similarly Amtrak-controlled, although since Amtrak’s service to Harrisburg and Pittsburgh is less frequent than traffic on the Northeast Corridor, the Paoli line is less subject to delays. The Airport line uses trackage adjacent to the Amtrak right of way to avoid conflict.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
For sure! It’s never going to happen, but I just thought I’d throw it out there. Funny how Amtrak is always screaming about how bad delaying trains is until it’s on their tracks lol
@gerryphilly53
@gerryphilly53 3 года назад
@@TheFourFoot There is talk about restoring service to Pottstown and Reading that might be Pennsylvania-supported Amtrak service. Still very preliminary.
@jm-bv1wh
@jm-bv1wh 3 года назад
@@gerryphilly53 That will never happen.
@joeynova3550
@joeynova3550 2 года назад
@@gerryphilly53 SEPTA already runs on the Amtrak tracks through Chester on the Northeast corridor all the way down to Wilmington so I don't think it would be much of a stretch for them to run trains off of the Chester Creek Branch. That being said it would cost billions to repair the Chester Creek Branch and every day they're turning more of it into a rail trail.
@andrewbarnum2619
@andrewbarnum2619 2 года назад
I would LOVE to see service restored on theses lines. I have walked the new trail from end to end and it would be much cooler as a tourist railroad than a walking trail. As for the West Chester branch. I have road that train and I don't see why Septa and the West Chester tourist branch can't share. The Tourist train only runs once a week and Septa could work around that schedule. There are many many old lines in this area I would love to see restored but for now its just wishful thinking.
@victorwilliams6985
@victorwilliams6985 3 года назад
This station might be what the other inbound to Philly stations need to clear up parking. People who live outside of Elwyn station which includes as far as West Chester, drive in and parking fills up almost instantly. The next station is Media station which has the same problem. About 550 parking spaces between the 2 of them and all full by 830ish AM. It's crazy.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
I’m sure!
@PhillyBagel
@PhillyBagel 3 года назад
That was the pre-pandemic situation. Despite the end of restrictions on office occupancy, most office workers are still working at home. It’s crazy how in the blink of an eye parking went from one of SEPTA’s biggest concerns to the least of its worries.
@COASTER1921
@COASTER1921 3 года назад
In Dallas the DART Silver Line commuter rail is starting construction along the former cotton belt corridor. Although there isn't much interesting construction yet, there definitely will be when they build the viaducts pulling the line south of the old corridor to connect with the Red line at Cityline/Bush. Opening has been delayed to March 2023 now, so it may be another year before it's interesting.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
For sure! I definitely plan to get down there at some point!
@chrispontani6059
@chrispontani6059 3 года назад
It’s pronounced University City, not Universal City. :) Love these videos. If you ever come back to the land of SEPTA, the Claymont station in Delaware is moving a few hundred feet north from its current location on a curve on the NEC to straight tracks in the former steel mill. I believe it’s closer to the old abandoned Naamans station.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Wow, I can read goodly lol. Thanks for that info, I will definitely check it out next time!
@elu0502
@elu0502 3 года назад
Now it’s called Penn Medicine station
@eyepicyou
@eyepicyou 3 года назад
@@elu0502 I was watching a video a few weeks ago. That confused me when I saw that. At least it reflects when's going on in the area.
@AA_8184_1
@AA_8184_1 3 года назад
Also: nice highlight of the Princeton Wawa store, which is probably the most elegant store in the chain, & couldn’t be more convenient to transit!
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
I was certainly impressed by it lol
@matthewburden9403
@matthewburden9403 3 года назад
I do not payronize Wawa - Wawa is a money gouging ripoff!
@jeffdamelio
@jeffdamelio 3 года назад
Good review of the non-used PRR lines. Grew up on the Doylestown Branch of the RDG. My father grew up on the PRR side.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Nice! Lol do you have a preference to the two former systems?
@jeffdamelio
@jeffdamelio 3 года назад
@@TheFourFoot Not really. I don't remember Broad St Station, so Reading Terminal was much more impressive than Suburban Station. Never spent a lot of time PRR trains. Although the Tunnel was seen as pie in the sky boondoggle I think the end result has been good for the Delaware Valley. I am a member of the Reading Company Technical and Historical Society. Living in FL near the EOT of the Deerhaven Sub, CSX, former SAL.
@GamingRailfanner
@GamingRailfanner 3 года назад
Funny yet Epic
@OntarioTrafficMan
@OntarioTrafficMan 3 года назад
Denver's RTD also has a fully-electric regional rail network.
@rutheliz75
@rutheliz75 3 года назад
"Ma Ma I want Wa Wa" was an advertising slogan from long ago for the Wa Wa dairy which gave birth to the convenience store. The Cynwyd line continued parallel to the Reading to Norristown where it had a high level platform station next to Readings DeKalb street station both connected by ped. tunnel to the streets . I remember how smelly they were as a child. Ah, the good old days. LOL
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Interesting! Thanks for the info!
@luislaplume8261
@luislaplume8261 3 года назад
Wawa is a Cuban slang for bus. My aunt and my mother said that word when they talked about which bus to take in order to go to a specific department store in NYC. Yes, I am Cuban born in Havana, and my family would ordinarily say autobus.
@295g295
@295g295 3 года назад
8:31 KIN-wid ... The Cynwyd line was a Pennsylvania RR line which had continued only to a station in Manayunk since 1976.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Interesting! Thanks!
@Barciur
@Barciur 2 года назад
Hoping that in the not-so-distant future you will be covering the projects of restoring rail service to Reading, Scranton and Allentown!
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 2 года назад
That would definitely be a good video!
@DeltaFish11
@DeltaFish11 3 года назад
I never expected you to be in the Philly area to cover this project. I learned so much about this project. All I can say is thank you!
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
I’m glad you liked it! The scenery of this line is wonderful. I’m sure the area is beautiful in the fall!
@olentangyriver1191
@olentangyriver1191 2 года назад
It looks like the Cleveland RTA rapid
@saxmanb777
@saxmanb777 3 года назад
Seattle is doing several line extensions. You should cover that.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
I definitely plan to!
@Unmannedperson
@Unmannedperson 3 года назад
Great video and love the channel! Since you were asking for ideas, what about the Windsor SMART extension in Sonoma County, CA? It is a 3.0-mile extension of the existing SMART commuter rail from Santa Rosa that is under construction, but due to financial issues of the pandemic, opening of the extension has been delayed to 2022. Not sure how much work has actually been done at this point.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
When I was there last year, they had removed the existing tracks north of Airport Blvd, but not much other construction was visible, and it was raining. Expect a video in a few months... Thanks for the suggestion!
@jimparisho7457
@jimparisho7457 2 года назад
You're from Nebraska? I'm impressed with your research. When you were in the area I hope you took the time and experienced at least once the Philly area's Signature Sandwich the Cheesesteak. This is just me but my favorite eatery nearby is Jim's Steeaks, 469 Baltimore Pike in the Stoney Creek Center in Springfield, Delaware County. It's about 2 miles off the Blue Route (I-476, Exit 3). Same great sandwich and cheese fries you get at Jim's on South Street in Philly but without the parking hassles and the line going out the door. Full disclosure, I am not employed or anyway connected to Jim's. Just my personal favorite.
@Jeff-uj8xi
@Jeff-uj8xi 2 года назад
How many miles is it from WaWa to West Chester? How many stations?
@Ih8kone
@Ih8kone 3 года назад
Make sure you discuss the proposal to build the North-South Rail Link. Also, please make documentaries about the Purple Line (in Maryland), and the Lackawanna Cut-Off Restoration Project.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Purple line video should (hopefully) be out next week, the other two may take some time, but they’re good ideas!
@Ih8kone
@Ih8kone 3 года назад
@@TheFourFoot and can you discuss Vision 42 (the light rail project in Manhattan)? And can you also discuss the Northern Branch Corridor Project?
@ieatbroccoliforlunch
@ieatbroccoliforlunch 3 года назад
Sadly, although it looks it to someone from a less populated area, Elwyn parking is NOT ample parking. Before COIVD it was filled by 7:15-7:30AM on weekdays. If you wanted to catch a 8:20 train, you'd have to be there by 7:15, or you couldn't park in the lot. Wawa station was supposed to help alleviate this problem by drawing some of the parking customers away from Elwyn.
@XBKLYN
@XBKLYN 3 года назад
Don't forget to visit Grand Central Station next year when the east side access trains start rolling.... currently the largest transit project in North America.... definitely in dollars, of course, it's NY!
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
I can’t wait for that project to be completed, and I’m sure millions of people feel the same way. In every way, it’s a pretty amazing project.
@chrisbrown1585
@chrisbrown1585 3 года назад
Although you pronounced a few of the local names wrong (it's Len-EYE Rd). However, hats off to pronouncing Manyunk correctly! I can't wait for this station to open, as I have family living within walking distance of the new station and traveling from center city philly will be much more convenient
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
That’s awesome! Also, thanks for educating me lol
@QuarioQuario54321
@QuarioQuario54321 3 года назад
Have you done HART in Honolulu?
@snoopyloopy
@snoopyloopy 3 года назад
have you gotten a video up of the arrow project in san bernardino/redlands? could also take a look at the valley rail/extension of ace to merced projects in norcal.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Both are excellent ideas that I should definitely do!
@EpicThe112
@EpicThe112 3 года назад
If R3 West Trenton,NJ to Wawa, PA were to be extended back to West chester there is going to be a problem is the travel time. Because the shortest travel time between Philadelphia and West chester involves taking SEPTA 92 bus then R5 Thorndale to Doylestown line at Exton Station to 30th street
@ianthatcher3326
@ianthatcher3326 3 года назад
cam you make a video on the SMART dmu train extention?
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Yes, already planning on it lol
@mtc6191
@mtc6191 3 года назад
Thanking of lines to do research on! They were talking about restoring the Lacawanna cut off,.. that’s been a curiosity for a while where that project is going,.. so if you’re looking for another line to do that I think would be a great documentary
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
It’s an interesting line for sure. And very popular with the number of suggestions I’ve gotten!
@matthewhall1062
@matthewhall1062 2 года назад
Sitting in a car he's used to go to a new rail station is the very definition of ironic.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 2 года назад
Yeah the whole premise of this channel is to promote passenger rail expansion, where ya know, it like doesn’t exist and stuff currently…
@georgeawestjr.9087
@georgeawestjr.9087 Год назад
There are 14 Newarks in the US. However, in the State of Delaware, it is pronounced "New"-"Ark" (two syllables).
@deanchapman1824
@deanchapman1824 Год назад
Eastside Access of the LIRR into Grand Central Madison.
@whatsup89100
@whatsup89100 3 года назад
Great video, subscribed. Any chance you could do a video on the phase two silver line extension for the washington metro?
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
I’ve got the footage, I just have to edit it! Lol thanks!
@whatsup89100
@whatsup89100 3 года назад
@@TheFourFoot lol awesome
@drakeilt5776
@drakeilt5776 3 года назад
4 new stations will be on the Northeast corridor between New Rochelle, NY and Penn Station. Service may begin before those stations are fully built (2025).
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Good to know!
@stephenmokshefski698
@stephenmokshefski698 2 года назад
I think you forgot RTD in Denver is fully electrified
@Roboboy
@Roboboy 3 года назад
Would also love to see a video like this on South Coast Rail!
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Yeah I definitely need to do that...
@ElmerCat
@ElmerCat 3 года назад
@@TheFourFoot The Massachusetts South Coast Rail?!! I have lots of mixed feelings about that project, so hearing your take would be very interesting indeed!
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
I’m definitely gonna have to do a video on that, seems like there’s a lot of interest!
@interstellarphred
@interstellarphred 3 года назад
@@ElmerCat Lynn observed "Passover" once again for this line, higher cost, lower ridership, that has been degraded by NIMBY politics, and questionable design and utility.
@ElmerCat
@ElmerCat 3 года назад
@@interstellarphred I don't understand - Lynn is on the North Shore, not the South Coast. Could you please explain what you mean?
@arkitect156
@arkitect156 3 года назад
Well SEPTA has a Norristown High Speed line starting construction somepoint within the next 1-2 years? From the mainline its going into King of Prussia and towards valley forge, thats something i think you should keep an eye on. As well as the media/elwyn line will one day (within the next 5-6 years i beleive) have service all the way to west chester, i beleive the next segment startes once the wawa station opens, so another thing to watch. Theres a whole philly 2045 plan that details all the projects septa wants done by then if you can find it, i highly recommend taking a look!
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Thanks a lot for the great info! I will!
@joeynova3550
@joeynova3550 3 года назад
I personally don't think SEPTA is going to go back to West Chester anytime soon, definitely not in the next five or six years. It would probably cost around $500,000,000 and the track between West Chester and Wawa is very windy and it's single tracked most of the way making the trip take much longer than if you were to use the Harrisburg line. SEPTA says maybe in twenty years, there might be enough people living out there by then to justify rebuilding it.
@cczz0103
@cczz0103 3 года назад
Do a video on the MBTAs South Coast line
@A_10_PaAng_111
@A_10_PaAng_111 10 месяцев назад
What's that police car on the shelf behind your right ear 😁😁😁?
@dashamm98
@dashamm98 3 года назад
Is there a planned opening day yet? If so, I would love to visit opening day
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Not that I know of
@dashamm98
@dashamm98 3 года назад
Septa is planning a spur of the NHSL to go to King of Prussia. They haven't started construction yet but will in the next few years
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
I’ll keep it in mind!
@jhonezcronic
@jhonezcronic 3 года назад
The community doesn’t want it though
@gregarious119
@gregarious119 3 года назад
@@jhonezcronic Maybe the KoP community doesn't, but everyone to the north and west does :)
@dashamm98
@dashamm98 3 года назад
@@gregarious119 as a montco resident, I want it. My only complaint is the fact that SEPTA is spending funding that's already limited in the middle of a pandemic on planning when there's more urgent needs that need funding, like crowded buses. I want to push montco commissioners to have montco pull more of the funding weight
@blue9multimediagroup
@blue9multimediagroup 3 года назад
@@jhonezcronic only the NIMBY homeowners up in KOP are against it. Everyone else as stated wants it and it would do way better than the current 124,125 buses from Center City and the 123 could stay around as an alternate.
@tealmer3528
@tealmer3528 2 года назад
Just so you know for the future, Cynwyd is pronounced Kin-wid.
@Gman-fe9rr
@Gman-fe9rr Год назад
You do video on Speta Overbrook Station
@kennethrembert2310
@kennethrembert2310 3 года назад
When is the SEPTA's Wawa Station be completed?
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
By the end of 2021. I don’t think a date has yet been set.
@kennethrembert2310
@kennethrembert2310 3 года назад
@@TheFourFoot Ok
@coryphillips8526
@coryphillips8526 Год назад
Good day to you. The correct pronounciation of Cynwyd is (Kenwood).
@The4905
@The4905 3 года назад
wait but what about denver RTD? they are fully electrified, or does that not count?
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
It is, but Denver Union station is a terminal station, and transferring to the light rail network requires a long walk, so I’d say it doesn’t really compare. Plus they’re moving ahead with diesel multiple units out to Boulder, which is better than nothing, but still...
@The4905
@The4905 3 года назад
@@TheFourFoot oh
@The4905
@The4905 3 года назад
but i guess when calmod is done...
@mrrobot5963
@mrrobot5963 3 года назад
@@The4905 Nope. CalTrain will still run Diesel to Gilroy. South of Tamien.
@milbournema
@milbournema 3 года назад
Lenni is pronounced LEN-eye. Thanks for nice update. Lived in Delaware County 30 years and remember when SEPTA still ran to West Chester.
@TheFourFoot
@TheFourFoot 3 года назад
Nice! I’m glad you liked it! Also thanks for letting me know lol
@eyepicyou
@eyepicyou 3 года назад
@@TheFourFootIt hurts my ears when you say Lenni as Lenny. But anyway, it is Len Eye as stated above. :)
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