Morbid Visions, Schizophrenia, Beneath the Remains, Arise, and Chaos A.D. are definitely my favorites. When it comes to Brazilian Thrash Metal, I think of Sepultura 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Beneath the Remains was the first metal album I ever owned when I was 13. It started me off on a life long journey. For me the only Sepultura that matters is from 85 to 91. I wear my morbid visions shirt with pride even if the band fell off
Beneath the Remains is a clear number one for me. After that Arise and Schizophrenia are pretty much level. I do like Chaos AD, but as the 90s went on I lost interest and haven't heard anything they've done in years.
It's been a few years since I've checked them out as well other than checking out enough songs off of each album to guarantee they get no money out of my wallet, although there drummer now is a freaking beast
Especially in the Max era, I was always so impressed by how many different riffs Sepultura could cram into one song. Brilliant change ups all over the place. I wonder how many riffs these guys have that never even made it onto an album.
The low budget production is the only thing holding Schizophrenia back. If it had the same production as Arise and Beneath the Remains, it could stand alongside those easily. Its still a great album though.
Excellent! I am old enough to have bought Morbid Visions when it first arrived in the states, and remember how incredibly awesome and unique this Brazilian band sounded. I became an immediate fan, and even hung out with them for a bit at a show in Chicago. Also, great job putting the underrated Schizophrenia in the top 4 where it belongs. And while I think Arise has the bands finest couple of moments, as a whole it's not as strong as BTR, which is epic from start to finish. Also, you are spot-on with Chaos A.D., which was their last really strong album before they started changing their sound and lineup.
In general, there are 2 people who criticizes Sepultura later albums: 1- the one who dislike the more modern/nu/hardcore/groove influences 2- people who think max alone own the band. They both flaw in many ways. I agree that the golden age of Sepultura are between the late 80’s and mid 90’s, but Sepultura is a band that always change their style and formation, and Andreas for example, is one of the most underrated riffmakers of all time. “Quadra” and “machine messiah” are both solid albuns, and other works of their late material like “against”, “mediator” or “dante XXI” too. Good riffs, musical estructure, experiments, heavyness... In fact, there are “legendary” albums of the band like morbid visions for example that has a lot of flaws, even if is a important album for extreme metal. I respect people who disagree with me,i don’t wanna force my opinions on anyone, but if you throw away the “tr00 metal” shit that people have (who think every modern metal sucks, just because you’re too old to understand that things change, and pay a eternal homage to the 80’s) and the Max idolatry you can listen to a couple of real good metal albums, and even great pearls for a veteran band that always evolving. I mean, people should open their minds. Ps: i agree that nation sucks. Is their worst effort so far.
Guilherme Ptp Morbid Vision has a lot of flaws, because because they had a low budget, basic equipment and youngest age. But in 1986, no have bands with the gutural vocals and heavy lyrics beyond the possessed
@@weskleydavid710 yeah, i know the history behind it. It’s possible to see a lot of inspiration of the german school on what Sepultura did. Destruction and Kreator are probably the main influences (i think that pleasure to kill is the major influence, side with possessed, of the birth of death metal) Sure that is an album that pionner extreme metal (even that i think many brazilian bands of the same age, like mutilator, dorsal atlantica or sarcófago did the same type of raw sound and didn’t have the same opportunity to be a global sucesseful band).
yeah, I don't think that Max would have saved them from their decline though, since the decline started when he was already in the band. Some bands are just too experimental that they lose their way, which I think is the case with Sepultura. Cheers!
@@RuthlessMetalYT we definitible do not agree in this one. As a fan of the channel, i can suggest you to do a Napalm Death worst to best? I think we can see a less divisive list on this one.
Agreed. Every band changes after a certain amount of time. However, I like Nation. I find Against and Morbid Visions to be their worst, both first records with each vocalist. I think they were finding themselves with these albums, but they're far from terrible, just not good per sei.
Couldn’t agree more with this ranking, top 5 and then everything after I could care less about, I still remember when I had Arise and Beneath the Remains on constant repeat for a few years, I definitely preferred their earlier sound
Beneath the remains is a phenomenal album . I pretty much lost interest in the band after Arise but it still reinforces my belief that most of the greatest metal albums that have ever come out are from the years 1985 to 1989
Nice rank! Couldn't agree more, first four are masterpieces and then there's the rest.. if you guys want to hear some of the death/thrash early Sepultura, I strongly suggest to listen to Jairo Tormentor's new band "The Troops of Doom". They put out 2 eps on the last two years and the first full length will be out on april 15th.
Great video, even though I like Roots, it was interesting to hear a different opinion. I suspect that you hate the first 4 albums (do to their heavy nu metal influences), but what are your thoughts on Soulfly from 2008 on, since they have included some death/thrash elements in their more modern albums?
Might as well just ranked their thrash and death metal albums since you hate so much on groove and nu metal...I'm not a really big fan of Sepultura, but denying the creativity of Chaos A.D. and Roots for incorporating tribal brazilian musical elements and rythms just because you hate everything heavy that came out in the 90s seems a little unfair...but whatever, to each their own...
I'm with you, I love those albums. They don't stand up to BtR and Arise on consistent quality, but they make for up it by being interesting and creative. I haven't got any interest in the stuff they released without Max (nor anything much Max has done since), and I don't enjoy the albums before BtR much either - so... 4 hits out of 15? It's not a great strike rate, but their peaks were high!
1. Schizophrenia 2. Machine Messiah 3. Roots 4. Quadra 5. Arise 6. Chaos A.D. 7. The Mediator... 8. Morbid Visions 9. Beneath the Remains 10. Kairos 11. Roorback 12. Dante XXI 13. A-Lex 14. Against 15. Nation I really love Sepultura, and I'm usually the first one to defend the Derrick Greene era albums (at least most of them). Beneath the Remains is definitely an amazing album, but I could never get into it as much as I did with the rest.
SPOT ON! Got nothing to say other than Bravo! I think that if the production on Schizophrenia was as good as on BeneathTR, it would be hard to pick one as a favourite. Also the EP Bestial Devastation is worth mentioning as imo is better than Morbid Visions.
I like Roots but it's a gotta-be-in-the-mood-for-it album. Max's lyrics and vocal performance on it is so anguished and visceral. It is cool they took chances and they were one of the first onto the nu metal scene and showed others how it was done rather than following a trend. But they should have changed the band name once Derrick Green joined - the difference between him and Max is just too jarring and totally changed the vibe of the band and I don't care for it.
I think their decline started before Max left, Chaos A.D. was the first warning of that with the industrial sounding production and the tribal drumming stuff. Cheers!
I'm from Belo Horizonte - Brazil... I live in the same neighborhood where they grew up. To this day it's hard to believe that they managed to be famous around the world. I'm very proud of the band.
I still think their good. The days of the Cavelera brothers with Andreas Kisser + Paulo Jr. are over. I like Derrick Green. Very loud and rage filled vocals. Paulo, Andreas, drummer you said was good Casagrande. Still pretty good
'Beneath the Remains' was my introduction to them, so it's my #1. #2-Arise, #3-Chaos A.D. That's really it for me. It always comes back to that great decade of the '80's. I never new about 'Schizophrenia' or 'Morbid Visions' so from you Jim and other comments, I will check out.
Incredibly based ranking (as always). Not afraid to single out horrible albums for what they are, despite their popularity (which will probably lose you subscribers), while also praising the truly great stuff. Ruthless Metal is an oasis of sanity in the metal community, never fails to deliver. Cheers, from São Paulo, Brazil!
I agree Beneath The Remains is their best album…the A side of that album is some of the greatest metal ever made…I was lucky enough to see Sepultura in concert in New York on Halloween 1989…they opened for King Diamond…my first concert, and I found out years later, their first appearance in the United States
This is one of very few offerings i watched straight thru before commenting. Cheers :) All i bought was, you guessed it, Roots. A 'fit' for the dark years of the mid '90s. It was OK but never got me to look for anything else. Maybe a bad place to start ;) Oh well. Thanks for the 'rank.
I cant live without listening to Beneath the remains, at least once a month, even though I've been listening to this masterpiece since it came out! Great video RM! Keep up with the great job....Could you please, play some parts of the albums when you make the next Rank`em all vid !?!
1 Beneath the Remains 2 Arise 3 Chaos AD 4 Schizophrenia EDIT: I also rate Psychosis (Cavalera Conspiracy). It sounds like mix between Beneath the Remains, Chaos AD and Arise.
@@thedddemon That maybe so, but the production really let's it down IMO. If Scott Burns had worked on Schizophrenia then It would rival Beneath the Remains on my list. Andy Wallace did a stellar job on Chaos AD. That album sounds like the soundtrack to jungle warfare.
Wow. That was, by far, the most negative ranking I've heard you give anyone. I've got not problem with that, cuz I'm sure that's your 100% honest take. It just knocked me back a sec cuz I wasn't expecting it. As always, I dig your ranking. You pull no punches.
Yeah, I only raelly like old Sepultura, I don't like the modern bullshit, which is the same for a lot of pants, I disliked modern Pantera even more. :D Cheers!
I got into Sepultura during the Beneath the Remains era., which is my favourite record along with Arise. Arise felt like the absolute peak because its production was also excellent. Roots was the last Sepultura record I bought. I wasn't totally against usage of tribal instruments, etc., but it'd become meandering, experimental slop.
I don't see the Cavalera brothers ever coming back and I'm ok with that. I don't them to come back because they might damage their legacy and Sepultura's last 2 albums are awesome. Max is doing his own thing with Soulfly and other projects he's doing with other metal gods.
Dude you’re pretty spot on here! Personally I don’t hate Roots because of the nostalgia of being one of the first cds I ever bought after starting my first job. And I had a friend who lent me Chaos AD so I sorta worked my way backwards! But Beneath is almost always the go to Sep record. Stoked for more! Maybe Carcass?
I love Carcass and can give you a good rundown! 3 - Swansong - Good album, but good just doesn't compare to everything else. 2 Reek of Putrefaction - This album sounds like it was recorded in the dirt, which is a shame because the songs are still awesome. 1e - Torn Arteries - Carcass is still making amazing albums even today. 1d - Necroticism - Descanting the Insalubrious - What a tremendous leap in songwriting and production. 1c - Surgical Steel - So many years after the band broke up, they blow everyone away with a new masterpiece. 1b - Symphonies of Sickness - The best of the grind era, with so many memorable riffs, blast beats, dual vocals, and best mix of gore lyrics. 1a - Heartwork - This is a challenger for the best metal album of all time. Flawless the whole way through.
I'm from Brazil and I'm completly agree with your list. The 3 firsts albuns of the band influences a lot of swedish death metal scene in 90's. I recomend a old live video of Sepultura's concert in Fargest in 89 maybe. It's a insane registar of the best moment of a band in a tour together with Sodom (and many troubles happens in that tour, scatologic things and etc hahaha). Congratulations for your work, I'm already see your documentary about heavy metal bands from Sweden and I love. I'm a great fan of swedish metal. Cheers dude.
Congratulations! Nice work, man. I imagine your pain and suffering listening all Derrick Green era albuns. I personally like some of them, but I understand they are not easy too appreciate, since it is almost another band, using different references of sound and production.
This is about the best list of Sepultura as I've ever seen. Great overview and the albums you say sucked DID SUCK and the ones that were great were great.
@@RuthlessMetalYT Haha yea I liked how you described those you took a dump on, but true thrash fans I can't imagine being overly happy with crap like Roots or Nation. I completely hated pretty much everything after Chaos AD and I don't really like that album all that much, though I don't mind doing different things and their stretching out with some new sounds is a cool idea, but eventually they just took it way too far. Sad thing is their albums 2-4 are pretty damn sensational. I guess they figured they'll never top that just go play nu metal slop and try to cash in on that terrible trend.
I think Roots is an interesting album with a lot of good ideas. Its obviously not as good as their first few, but I do think it gets unfairly maligned by hardcore Thrash fans and also massively overrated by metal noobs.
I agree, I think there are some original tracks, a good mix of song types and good energy, not total garbage by any means. I don’t agree it’s purely nu-metal.
even if its nu metal who cares its a good album the tribal rhythms the vocals filled with so much hate the groovy bouncy riffs its one of the best sepultura albums in my opinion
I had my first & so far only major car crash while playing Beneath the Remains! Stone sober during the day... Luckily I wasn't injured but there was serious damage. I'll never forget Primitive Future was playing :D I remember thinking "well if i died, at least I died listening to good shit!'
I saw Pantera and Sepultura at the, at the time, the World ampiTheatre. It was Sepultura’s Chaos AD Tour. And Pantera’s was Far Beyond Driven tour 94. I think I got to see them in their prime that day. Both were Awesome🔥🔥🔥
I agree 100% with your list. I'm from Brazil, and here it's even hard to talk about Sepultura because if you say Sepultura was only good on the early years and with the Cavalera brother's, people you call you a "Cavalera stan" of something like that.
I’m glad you didn’t dump on all of the Derrick Green albums. Quadra is legitimately a great late period album and Derrick really deserves props for that. I get the hate for Roots as I know you especially hate groove and nu-metal, but at least the album made the people who discovered it check out the better albums. As someone who does get along with Groove, I’d say Roots is very far from the worst that the genre can get.
1. Beneath the Remains 2. Schizophrenia 3. Arise 4. Morbid Visions I could do without the rest but Chaos AD is alright, glad to see I’m not the only one who thinks Roots is insanely overrated. Nice comeback with Quadra too.
Arise is one of my favourite albums of all time. A tight 10/10 record. Only because of the music production, it ranks higher on my list than Beneath the remains . The whole album is a pure eargasm.
Thank you for calling out Roots for what it really was. A sad attempt by the band to hop onto the Nu Metal bandwagon. I used to get a lot of crap from my friends for saying this back in the day, so I find it refreshing that I'm not the only one with this opinion.
Nice.!! I understand they wanted to try new things and change it up but for me it did not improve their music. Still honor them for contributing to thrash and all metal. 🤘🏼🤘🏼🔥🔥
Yeah, I feel it's pointless to stop liking a band just because they went commercial or so, If an album is good then I'll keep listening to it. :) Cheers!
Totally in line. Sepultura was a Death Thrash band for 5 years and Grove/New metal for 30 years. So they have 30 years releasing bad album s or average at much.
OUCH! I thought you'd put Roots up there in the top five, for me it's sacrilegious to rank it less than anything from the Derrick Green era. But you're entitled to your own opinion i guess.
This channel is 🤘 awesome. If I agree or disagree your perspective is always interesting. My list is different but your opinion is metal sound perspective. 🤘
@@RuthlessMetalYT just saw them last month on their Quadra tour, fun concert but I don't have the newer albuns, it's was good to hear Slaves of Pain and Infected Voice live!
Schizophrenia, Arise, BTR, Morbid Visions and Chaos Ad are amazing records. You should react to the Cavalera Conspiracy 4 records, its more like old Sepultura, especially the last record: Psychosis. Soulfly also has better albums, the return of death/thrash metal from the Dark Ages album to the last one, Totem, which is perhaps one of the best Soulfly albums, because it has a lot of old school of early Sepultura, with Floridian death metal guitars
Yeah I kinda stayed away from everything Sepultura and Cavalera in the 90s and beyond. They lost me, I've heard a track or two from Cavalera Conspiracy, better than Soulfly but I don't like it that much. Cheers!
Love it. I wouldn't rank it that way myself but fair play to you. I'm going to listen to Morbid visions and Schizophrenia now. Yes I also think Sepultura lost their way with Roots. Morbid Visions right up to Chaos AD are class albums.
yeah, a ton of people seems to agree with that, I thought I would get more slack from Roots defenders but there hasn't been much. Maybe they know that I'm already not into that. hehe
I personally agree with your assessment of their first four or five albums versus their later stuff. I think Roots was the first album I heard and just wasn't into it. I heard some later stuff and just didn't think the band was for me. Then I stumbled across some pre-93 stuff and was like, wait, this is Sepultura? This is actually awesome!
Aqui estamos de volta para mais um rank, dessa vez, Sepultura! 1-Beneath the Remains and Arise (this two albums are masterpieces, and they are two among the best trash albums with total certainly) 2-Roots (what a genius album! The idea of getting a comp with metal and indigenous songs is just lit man 😉👌) 3-Kairos (and TOTALLY UNDERRATED album from the 2010's, and definitely the best from the Derrick Green era) 4-A-lex (another TOTALLY UNDERRATED album and another one of the best from Derrick Green era) 5-Against (a totally AWESOME album with a very good Energy and really cool musics 😎👍) 6-Chaos AD (an awesome "groove trash" album from the 90's that i love ALOT man) 7- Machine Messiah (another awesome album from the 2010's and another reason why I like Derrick Green) 8-Quadra (another more awesome album to save the diabolic year of 2020) 9- Schizophrenia, Morbid Visions and Bestial Devastation (a trio of classics that started Sepultura really well, but idk, I'm not a big fan of it, but still, they still are good even to today 🙂👍) 10-Dante (even tough i don't like it Soo much, it is better than...) 11-Roorback (a album Soo unknown and soo irrelevant that i never heard it 🤷) 12-the mediator between hands and hands must be the heart (despite the really long name, this album not aged a bit well. BUT, and that's a big BUT, the death cover from Zombie Ritual is AWESOME, but yep, that's it) 12-Sepulnation (well, Sepultura actually doesn't have bad albums to be honest, but sepulnation is really weak. The sound is not attractive a bit to me, and the musics are not a bit creative, Soo yep, this is definitely a meh album 😑👎)
@@RuthlessMetalYT well is difficult to say, despite the influence, some musics still have the groove influence. But you are a actually correct, but still, this album is genius. I know, fans from this channel and Ruthless itself will disagree with me a ton, but I still like alot this album, most because it was my first album I own. Just for short explanation, my mom had this album and other ones because she is a fan of metal, to be precise, a fan of Iron Maiden, Judas, Sepultura and even Sarcófago. One day, at my anniversary of 15 years in 2017, he passed to me Roots, and I heard it all the day on my vinil player. I love it, and after this, i discovered Iron and Judas, and after on, i became a fan of metal, later discovering and becoming fan of Slayer, Metallica, Anthrax, Megadeth, Testament, Death, Suicidal Tendencias, Evile, and soo and sooooo on. At the end, Roots is my most important album I've ever heard, because it was were i started this love with metal.
My personal list: 1. Schizophrenia!!! (brazilian death/thrash Reign in Blood!, and the best Sepultura logo ever) 2. Beneath The Remains 3. Morbid Visions/Bestial Devastation 4. Arise (last album Sepultura i like it) Rest, no exist for me... Chaos A.D maybe... Cheers!
- For me the best are: Arise, Beneath The Remains, Schizophrenia, Chaos A.D., Morbid Visions, The Mediator..., Kairos, Machine Messiah, Quadra, Against. - The worst are: Roorback, Nation, Dante, Roots, A-Lex, Bestial Devastation EP. - I grew up with this band since 1992, saw them live only two times. I'm not attached to the Cavaleras era, so am open to hear all their albums without the typical Metalhead prejudice or fanboy attitude. I don't care what people say.
Spot on once again my metal brother, Judas Priest and now this. Nice work! I would like to hear your top rated Saxon! I haven’t looked so if it’s already out, I apologize..
@@RuthlessMetalYT I can understand why you would shy away from such an immense library. I also get Saxon isn’t a band I would describe as ruthless metal. What I will say is this, you are so spot on when it comes to music. Such an underrated band as Saxon would immensely benefit from someone like yourself pulling back the curtains for the unfortunate people who haven’t heard it! I completely realize that Saxon has plenty of crappy songs and a few crappy albums, but what I don’t feel is debatable is they also have some solid gold! The reason for asking for Saxon is I so often here you speaking of the progression of different styles of music, you already know Saxon has had its hand in influencing so many bands it’s not even funny! Songs like Dallas 1pm, Motorcycle Man, Heavy Metal Thunder, Midnight Rider, just to name a few! With your platform you could introduce those gems to the masses! I’m into Slayer, Metallica, Megadeth, Venom, Exodus, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Metal Church, DRI, just to name a few. The idea of not having heard Saxon is lame! I seen Saxon open for Judas Priest for the first time a couple years ago. Holy shit those geezers still get it on!!! I will not comment on Current Judas Priest, I used to absolutely love them. Anyways, keep up the killer work brother!
Great rank! Roots was my first Sepultura album and I can't help but laugh really hard when you said "put it in the rap section along with KoRn & Limp Bizkit", you made my day dude with that. I think Arise is their best album and it was the last great thrash metal album recorded by any 80's band. I agree with your point of Max's departure was not really a factor of they going downhill, just listen to all those awful Soulfly's albums. Sometimes I think Soulfly and Dereck's Sepultura are in a challenge of wich band can put out more bad albums lol. Nevertheless I have heard Quadra is pretty decent so maybe I could give it a try.
Chaos and Roots are masterpieces. There is plenty of generic death/thrash out there if that’s all you want. But these albums show something new (even if it was “nu”) that only Sep can take full credit for. I personally don’t know how Morbid Visions isn’t at the very bottom. It’s just painful to listen to. I know things were tough, but surely someone they knew owned a guitar tuner? I guess that’s the nature of this kind of “ranking” though. It can only every be subjective.
Chaos is like a 2.5/5 album and Roots is like a 0/5 album in my opinion. Morbid Visions is great, Sepultura were one of the few bands that pushed metal into more extreme territories with that one. Yeah, that's true, it's only my opinions. ;) Cheers!
Great countdown. I would place Roots a lot higher because a love that groove/nu metal sound, but if that sound would not be appealing at all to me, I would 100% agree with this.
Awesome ranking, pretty much all of your picks I would choose too (maybe I would put Machine Messiah and Quadra in front of Chaos A.D.)... And kudos for acknowledging Roots as one of the shittiest albums ever. 🤘🏻🔥
Yeah, I can definitely see that, but Chaos A.D. was one of my first records so I kinda grew up on it which makes it almost automatically better than a new album that I'm not completely sold on. :) Cheers! 🤘
Anything max is better than anything after max lol but I also like roots, even if it is more “numetal” or “groove” based… I still think it’s 100% closer to the groove bands than any of the numetal bands lol
i thought you'd never get along to sepultura. one of my fav bands. Eloy is the best drummer i've ever witnessed, i hope they keep hold of him for a long time 1. Chaos AD (Masterpiece, Top 5 Album of all time for me) 2. Arise 3. Quadra (Modern Masterpiece, Even though sepultura have been great since Kairos they completely blew me away when this dropped. Will possibly surpass arise after more listens. Probably the best drum performance i have ever heard plus the best vocal performance on any sepultura album. By this point i can say that derrick is solidly a better vocalist than max) 4. Beneath the Remains 5. Machine Messiah 6. Kairos (Their comeback album even though i really liked roorback and dante) 7. Schizo 8. The Mediator 9. Roorback 10. Morbid Visions (Yes, its a bad album but its an extremely fun listen) 11. Dante XXI Getting into the albums i dislike 12. Roots (Very overrated) 13. Against (Roots but with derrick on vocals. Only lower because i prefer max's performance on there) 14. Bestial Devastation EP 15. A-Lex (This was probably the lowest point in their career. Igor had just left so people were calling them a cover band, then they come out with this stinker... yikes, i'm glad they managed to get back on track) 16. Nation (i like sepulnation and vox populi, but the rest is trash. Barely managed to finish this)
yeah, there are a few bands that started out great but turned into shit for a long period, megadeth, annihilator, metallica, sepultura, etc, etc. :) Cheers!
Dude, do you have a rank from Obituary? If you do would you tell me where is it; if you don't what are you waiting for? Good rank from the Brazilian Masters.
@@RuthlessMetalYT hopefully you can gather information on them and give us a list on their stuff. Even if you're not that into them you gotta know how important they are to death metal and metal in general. Keep up the ranks!.
