Service Steam in Bosnia and Serbia - 2017 

What do you expect if it is German built, - solid and reliable. Makes me laugh along with Japan they were soundly beaten in WW2, - yet they are now World leaders in a lot of things they make, although the age of the 'plastic' car etc. to name just one item has 'clipped' their wings a bit.

Where about was it?

@@christopherlovelock9104 Could you elaborate on what you mean by 'plastic cars'?

As a nuclear engineer involved with the engineering and design of pressure vessels I wonder what an update with modern tech would do to a BR52 design?

@@blondeguy08 back in the early 2000's an English group along with a steam engine owner set about creating plans to make an oil fired, reliable, easy to operate steam engine that could be used in ordinary service. They called it the 5AT, but it never came to fruition because of a lack of support. Just imagine though, if wood was used instead-renewable fuel, an easy to run design, along with brute force unparalleled by electric traction ( which doesn't have enough torque to haul heavy freight). Back in the 30's Sweden decided to put electric heaters in steam loco boilers and pick up electricity from an overhead wire. Apparently, it didn't work as well as it should have, but in today's modern world, who knows if we could use it?

52 handles similar both directions as far as i know so its probably less of a problem then usual

And that's how mighty mac was made

@@Graulas lol

I've seen pictures of it being done here. Usually it was done if it wasn't convenient to turn the locomotives at the end of a trip.

Varinki also. Most locomotive turntables have disappeared. In many cases you simply can’t turn a locomotive around.

Yeah, I hope the 120 year gets repainted.

Heres a challenger pulling an intermodal: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XhgHrDbN4EU.html

given well into the 2000s they were (and still are in a single coal mine) using steam haulage in china. And it continued well into the 90s in many eastern european countries, no doubt has happened much more than you think

Also back in 1999 the former ATSF 3751 pulled a container train to Los Angeles.

@@jmtrainz2582 me too, it also has a good bark for a small 0-6-0 :-D

3:50 is also beautiful framing.

23:50 Did it for me, tiny house, washing on the line, car trailer by the fence.

Agreed:-)

Is that clan line on your profile pic? if it is, N O I C E

dunxy America is considering putting the big boys back on the rail in regular service and Great Britain has plenty of steam services. I don’t know too much about other countries, but I know China and other really hilly places use some small steam locos to get stuff moving. They just aren’t as common as they used to be.

Logan Littell I don’t think there’s been any real talk of putting big boys back in regular service here in America. Steam locomotives are about 7% efficient to operate whereas diesels are somewhere in the 70 to 80% range. Plus, you can pull the same amount with the big boy as with one big diesel road engine, and with steamers being less efficient I think it’s doubtful

Ex Austria-Hungarian locomotives in service. That train lived through two world wars, the entire Yugoslav government, the various wars in the Balkans following the dissolution of Yugoslavia to the present day and still working

To tell you the truth, I was a bit lost in some places as well. There are tracks all over the place and for some reason, my GPS did not work.

do you have any kml with locations of this tracks? can u give me some places where this locomotives drive in Bosnia? Thanks

Thanks Tim. Quickly disappearing though. The 33s are officially restricted to the premises of their respective mines. But there are exceptions, as can be seen in this video.

Such reliable engines!

Check the overall air pollution at 2:05

Sean Elmore diesels ar e just as bad if not worse. And there are far more of them. Locos trucks cars stationary engines etc. a steam loco is just a coal fire not the pollutants in diesel fuel

Michael Naisbitt I wish in my country we had some steam excursions. We can run the damn thing with fuel from within our country. And yes most of that smoke is just steam

According to another comment, it's a compound engine, with one high pressure, and one low. Regardless, I think the poor thing could use a tune-up, as it visibly wobbles due to unbalanced power. Probably isn't doing the frame or wheels any favors. Funky beat, though.

Yes. Real work, isn't it?

You beat me to this comment.. ~ smiles ~

Polish Ty2.

@Current Batches Uhhh... Strasburg 90 & Frisco #1630?

@Current Batches ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-S3TqGypgch0.html U.S. did and they were ALOT bigger than the ones in the above video.

Dario Bacic are there any inns or hotels in that area near the tracks?

Hi Dario, are these trains still operated with steam locos (Oct. 2019)?

Interesting! Youre a lucky man!

yes

jojo reference heha

The stuff of dreams. I wonder if they're still working today? Real working steam...

If "once per week" is good enough - go to Beekbergen in the Netherlands. The VSM runs similar (and some more modern) engines on a very regular base

I feel u pal..

They’re gorgeous, but you don’t want to be the guy that has to get up at 4 am to light the fire. Or maybe you do ...👍

Thank you for your nice comment. Keep some tears for the next one: Burma, in January.

KochersbergTV Looking forward to it. Now I've had a relapse. Steam is like a drug. I've been off it for a couple of years, busy with cars. Then one little video and I'm hooked again...

Yea, in here, we are working on to rebuild as much steamer and old coaches as we could. For example, three foundations are work on repearing steamers, where I work, we work on 324,540; using the 324,1527's parts. We have also use the MÁV 1026, and our glorius plans are to rebuild as many steamers as we could. I hope we can manage it!! (Sorry for my bad english, I came from Hungary...😅)

Absolutely and the last ones in Europe.

The train traffic keeps changing and I do not live in the area. So I cannot update you about the frequency of the trains unfortunately.

At the very least it wasn't shot full of holes by some Allied fighter!

Remember taking shots and getting arrested in Ruma yard about thirty years ago seems they might have mellowed all these years later , the yard was being shunted by a couple of class 33s . Is this anywhere near the locations of these videos

Probably.

Yes. It's a Bloody No Brainer. And why not do it on your entire rail network too?

Sure you may be able to operate your own engines with your own product, but lets not forget that steamers require a HUGE infrastructure network to maintain (roundhouses, back shops, coaling and watering facilities) which also requires a literal army of workers to staff. Petroleum powered diesels on the other hand only require a fraction of the infrastructure needed to maintain them, which also means they require less employees. Plus, each steam locomotive basically needs three crew members to operate whereas two crew members can operate a whole lashup of diesels. To sum it all up, in the long run steam engines are way more expensive to operate than diesels.

bitsnpieces11 should you 900

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aIiYh6-TySo.html

Because the government is putting in regulations and carbon taxes against your coal

I hope so too. I am reasonably optimistic. Even though they are quite dirty, they sound like they are in good condition. The workshops are still working and I saw a steam-hauled tourist train, apparently coming from Croatia.

The Hungarian 126 is a real dinosaur, but regarding the sound I have noticed that several of the locomotives, the 126 in particular, just have 2 exhaust beats per revolution of the wheels, their valve gear setting is waááááy off, the maintenance must be kept to the bare minimum for the locomotives which are not in every day use anymore.

Two beats per revolution = two cylinder compound = normal. The same holds true for the narrow gauge class 83. This being said, the poor old girl could do with a bit of maintenance... and probably a new boiler.

Are you kidding me? these war locos are to be found just about _everywhere_ in Europe, merrily running on tourist lines. Being from Holland, I'd happily swap as many of these as necessary for one "real" dutch engine in running condition - (meaning not american, english or german war babies but locomotives designed in NL).

(Holland scrapped their steam in '57, long before anyone was interested in preserving it :-(

Isochest only problem is that we love our wars way too much, so you can be certain that around ever 50 years there will be one.

Lots of land mines around the country though

I disagree and agree at the same time. Your problems have been flamed by the USA (Skull and Bones and others) Most humans hate war. But a few evil folk do and they make money from it . We all need to treat those who wish to dominate us as the jerks they are and make them feel they have lost their toy.

Well yes, you are right. But it should be appreciated that the poor engine could hardly move herself (and a hopper). I would be curious to see the boiler certificate. Having said this, this is a very interesting engine (cross-compound) and she would deserve a careful restoration. And the mine is having a second similar engine hidden somewhere...

Not only that it looks like a Queensland Rail B13 1/2.

To the best of my knowledge, those locomotives were built around 1943/44 and remained in service ever since, first in the DDR then in Yugoslavia, now in Bosnia.

No regular steam in Serbia anymore. They did a favor to us...

I'm glad I know this comment is on a steam locomotive video ;-)

"Now Percy has learned his lesson too." He chuckled to himself

😂😅

Thank you for your nice comment. Otherwise, not easy to find technical information about class 83, at least in a language I understand. As far as I can understand, there existed two sub-classes, one using saturated steam and the other one superheated steam. The former was a two cylinder compound while the latter had a single expansion engine. The machine displayed in my video would be a compound, as you rightly suspected from the exhaust noise. For more information about these machines, please see the following (in German): de.wikipedia.org/wiki/BHStB_IVa5

I went to this mine last year. Both 0-6-0's present are cross-compounds.

Those are cross-compounds locomotives: one high pressure et one low pressure cylinders. So only two exhaust beats per revolution. Figure out ? The SG 0-6-0 is actually an US model. Some were imported in Yugoslavia immediately after WW II, some were built locally later on.

@@KochersbergTV That's a curious design, but it must work well if it works now. I did think the SG 0-6-0T looked like an S100.

Archer Hill all over again

The sound is precisely the reason why I am shooting videos in preference to still pictures.

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In Serbia, you are right, but in Bosnia, they are still in regular service in the different sites of KREKA mines.

If you watch carefully this video, you will see cars being loaded, but due to the loading method used, little of the process is visible. As for unloading, the trains are going to a power station, which is completely off-limit for visitors.