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SEVEN : www.imdb.com/title/tt0114369
(© Warner Bros)
SPOILER AHEAD!
This 8 minute scene of mostly dialogue has three main functions.
At this point in the movie, in the beginning of act three, after the previous story twists, our expectations of what is to come are already well set up. But here John Doe is very confident and repetedly emphasizes the impact of his coming act. This raises even more the audience expectation and triggers an almost unbarable curiosity for the climax. (Just imagine a hand of God breaking your DVD-player just before the end sequence and you would Never Ever get to know what happened!)
On another level the dialogue handles the theme as John Doe explains his motivation for his beastly act. We learn that his engagement is perfectly reflecting the reason of Somerset to resign. They share a dark view of the world as a place where nobody cares anymore. But, and this should really be annoying, as Somerset chooses to stand back and resign, John Doe, in his perverted way, takes action to make the world a better place.
Finally, the escalating conflict between Mills and John Doe, that ends with John Doe humiliating Mills, is needed to emotionally set up Mills for the actions of the climax.

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@_ChristinaLauren_
@_ChristinaLauren_ 5 лет назад
I know a lot of people didn't like Brad Pitt's character in the film but I thought he was a great representation of how an inexperienced cop saw only the surface while Morgan Freeman's character knew from experience that the shit hadn't yet hit the fan. Opposites. It was perfect.
@danielmoorefield4891
@danielmoorefield4891 5 лет назад
Shit usually hits the fan at the worst possible moment.
@sharonhayaalee-v5974
@sharonhayaalee-v5974 5 лет назад
He was the one for that. Beliv me . I know.
@sweetbeauty2153
@sweetbeauty2153 4 года назад
@@danielmoorefield4891 yep!
@inferno0020
@inferno0020 4 года назад
I think Pitt has done a great job for portraying an inexperienced, irritable cop.
@Da_Wurm
@Da_Wurm 4 года назад
thank you for saying this. i completely agree. and anyone who says Pitt did poorly in this film is an absolute fucking moron
@Scrootumm
@Scrootumm 7 лет назад
Damn John Doe knew Mills better than Mills himself.
@bluehat3673
@bluehat3673 5 лет назад
@Trumpis God what does this mean
@huehuehueheh5806
@huehuehueheh5806 5 лет назад
@@bluehat3673 look in the mirror and you will find the answer
@dmcrun3572
@dmcrun3572 Год назад
BP’s character was fairly transparent and he didn’t exactly hold back his emotions, thoughts, or opinions
@Dan_Kanerva
@Dan_Kanerva Год назад
@@dmcrun3572 yeah, is easier to read a man when he doesn't keep much to himself
@alifakhrzadeh1544
@alifakhrzadeh1544 4 месяца назад
Well Tracy met Somerset so you can’t thoroughly blame Mills for that
@KKelly-ng1ni
@KKelly-ng1ni 8 лет назад
There are so many reasons why the car scene is a powerful scene. The fact that David's wife was already dead and some of the blood was found on John Doe and he had no idea. Tracy kept calling David and calling him and he ignored her. The part where John Doe tells him he won't miss a thing. I also believe that although there was no sequel, John Doe was absolutely correct when he said they couldn't see the whole picture yet, but when it all came out people would be shocked and amazed.
@yvesheinrich5013
@yvesheinrich5013 7 лет назад
Now that I read your comment. I don't understand why the blood on John Doe's cloths weren't examined?
@KKelly-ng1ni
@KKelly-ng1ni 7 лет назад
Yves Heinrich They were, but they could only tell that there was blood from the victim of his that they found and one other unidentified person's blood.
@yvesheinrich5013
@yvesheinrich5013 7 лет назад
Motormouth Kelly So you're saying the bloods could've been combined and it was hard to identify who's who?
@KKelly-ng1ni
@KKelly-ng1ni 7 лет назад
Yves Heinrich I'm saying that they hadn't found the detective's wife yet so they had nothing to compare it to.
@yvesheinrich5013
@yvesheinrich5013 7 лет назад
Motormouth Kelly Ohhhh. I guess in the movie if they would've found out who's blood was in John Doe's cloths, we would already reach the end of the movie with decisions. But realistically, it doesn't make sense not to scan the blood - just skipping that part...
@awwwyeaboyeeee
@awwwyeaboyeeee 9 лет назад
This movie was devastating.
@VVeltanschauung187
@VVeltanschauung187 3 года назад
It's fucking great
@Hexsmasher2099
@Hexsmasher2099 2 года назад
By devastating you mean that it is terrifying because it might have some points in people sinning
@yearginclarke
@yearginclarke 2 года назад
@@Hexsmasher2099 Like John Doe said in the movie, "We see a deadly sin on every street corner, in every home, and we tolerate it."
@jimsty5222
@jimsty5222 2 года назад
Devastatingly good! Lol I know what you mean though -- the ending was so tragic but so good. Morgan Freeman, Brad Pitt, Andrew Todd Walker, David Fincher and especially Kevin Spacey made a true masterpiece!
@UrAverageFR_Teen
@UrAverageFR_Teen 2 года назад
@@jimsty5222 Andrew Kevin* Walker
@82dorrin
@82dorrin 10 лет назад
Spacey was amazing in this movie.
@mikespearwood3914
@mikespearwood3914 7 лет назад
to be fair...Spacey is amazing in every movie.
@mitchlucker666aaarh
@mitchlucker666aaarh 7 лет назад
Mike Spearwood nah... he makes the best bad guy in the history of cinema. otherwise, not much of a fan. hes the worst good guy in film lol
@siniaura
@siniaura 4 года назад
What we now know about Spacey makes his performance even creepier if possible
@alfiemarin266
@alfiemarin266 4 года назад
To me i just look at spacey as an actor and nothing else when watching this movie and he is phenomenal
@siniaura
@siniaura 4 года назад
@@alfiemarin266 and ​@UC4HCvZxUQ9vKj5oaFz-1J6w I agree. I like actor who has that range that spacey has. My point was that it is great performance, and even greater knowing he is not an angel. No one is. I want him back
@FresnoCA93727
@FresnoCA93727 8 лет назад
That whole scene was so well done. The whole movie is a classic. But that scene alone was just awesome.
@timishere1925
@timishere1925 3 года назад
@anthony Surely you jest about which scene when you are here watching the particular clip you've watched. Hopefully by now you can't read this because you passed on to the great beyond.
@mdiaz013184
@mdiaz013184 3 года назад
@anthony im thinking something ironic happened since he gave no reply...
@timishere1925
@timishere1925 3 года назад
@anthony Sorry. I haven't gotten notifications on youtube for years. My grammar is fine, at least for youtube. You understood what I was saying so that's all of the confirmation I need that my grammar is passable. As far as your response to the rest of my comment, I'm just going to let my comment stand.
@timishere1925
@timishere1925 3 года назад
@@mdiaz013184 You thought wrong son. Now mind your own business. You're a dime holding up a dollar.
@kenadams9725
@kenadams9725 3 года назад
True, watching this scene i didn't want it to be over. I enjoyed the movie
@singularity6065
@singularity6065 4 года назад
Love the cinematography in this scene. Notice how the bar is in front of the frame when it shows the murderer and brad pitt's character? They both are "Trapped". The only character shown without the bars is Morgan freeman's character, foreshadowing what will come to happen after this scene.
@rickybobby4827
@rickybobby4827 4 года назад
I just noticed that!!! Awesome!
@screamrad218
@screamrad218 4 года назад
Great observation! I just picked that up.
@deantreur248
@deantreur248 3 года назад
holy shit.
@ravaunmitchell6112
@ravaunmitchell6112 3 года назад
Lol
@illwitness
@illwitness 3 года назад
Brilliant analysis so obvious and subtle at the same time.
@Mintie365
@Mintie365 8 лет назад
Kevin spacey plays the psychopath so unbelievably well that I can only picture him as just that. Not wanting to typecast but man, him and hopkins are just iconic psychopaths to me. Great acting
@dano511
@dano511 4 года назад
IRONY
@Tony-fq5bn
@Tony-fq5bn 2 года назад
He was just playing himself lol, as evidenced by those creepy ass Christmas videos he's been putting out every year
@williamshaw9047
@williamshaw9047 2 года назад
@@Tony-fq5bn I admit, my first thought when all that came out was, "He was just a little too good at playing those sociopathic characters."
@MsHojat
@MsHojat 2 года назад
He's not a psychopath in K-PAX, but still dose really good acting for the type of mostly-calm-sometimes-intense characters.
@dbt-dt6zx
@dbt-dt6zx Год назад
Wellll
@James-mo6us
@James-mo6us 9 лет назад
the way morgan freeman says higher power is beast
@borntogazeintonightskies
@borntogazeintonightskies 8 лет назад
The way Morgan Freeman says anything is beast.
@DarkWolfGames10
@DarkWolfGames10 8 лет назад
Higha Powa
@rustcohle8638
@rustcohle8638 6 лет назад
This was two years ago by now, but let it be known I legitimately lol'd at this comment
@ricardocalmza
@ricardocalmza 6 лет назад
HIGHA POWA
@shanerose7204
@shanerose7204 4 года назад
Honestly, the way he said “higher power” made me giggle a little 😂
@dougvanhalen7576
@dougvanhalen7576 7 лет назад
one the greatest movies ever made in the past 25 years
@PraiseThaDon
@PraiseThaDon 6 месяцев назад
Of all time. Top 5 forsure
@pappar2669
@pappar2669 2 года назад
I love how every thing that Somerset says to John, tho few, gets to him and makes him think every single time.
@theunknown.449
@theunknown.449 Год назад
Every delusional person has a moment where they're like "....shit, he might be right"
@X-Factor-22
@X-Factor-22 Год назад
@@akshaynatu1084 Mill’s is a jock, but not a dumb jock because he wouldn’t be working with Somerset if he didn’t have potential. Mill’s issue is that he’s young, but eventually he would have matured into a seasoned detective if that tragic event wouldn’t have happened.
@mischacarlberg6631
@mischacarlberg6631 4 года назад
"Don't worry, you won't miss it. You won't miss a thing." Some damn good foreshadowing there.
@zoxyy.1x
@zoxyy.1x 2 года назад
i’m confused
@mischacarlberg6631
@mischacarlberg6631 2 года назад
@@zoxyy.1x he's also referring to the fact that he will shoot John Doe without missing
@5wheels178
@5wheels178 Год назад
In hindsight there's almost too much foreshadowing. He's practically nudging Pitt in the shoulder and saying 'guess what?'
@mimounaj8797
@mimounaj8797 26 дней назад
He was so right, he didnt miss a damn thing 🤣🤣🤣
@Krawna
@Krawna 9 дней назад
In a deleted scene both of them start singing the song by Aerosmith in the car
@gregoryjoulin5763
@gregoryjoulin5763 3 года назад
Somerset talks reason. Mills talks emotion. John Doe talks manipulation.
@norreras343
@norreras343 9 месяцев назад
The thing is, no one can manipulate anyone without an ounce of truth, tergiversated, but true; in this case? We live in a soZai3tY that normalize sin
@coryboy345
@coryboy345 5 месяцев назад
"Wanting people to listen.... you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore... you need to hit them with a sledgehammer" That quote hit so hard, especially after John Doe had to literally SCREAM for the detective in his own police station covered in blood, and no one noticed till he did that....
@40streetblack79
@40streetblack79 3 месяца назад
Good damn point! 😆 lol lol
@PowerGlove79
@PowerGlove79 2 года назад
"You're no messiah, you're a movie of the week. A T-shirt, at best". I don't know why, but I have always loved that line.
@VanillaLimeCoke
@VanillaLimeCoke Год назад
Foreplay Some people will have this movie stuck in there head for a really long time..... .......others just a week. After all......this whole thing was just a movie.
@ihadtochooseaname8532
@ihadtochooseaname8532 Год назад
Interesting all the three characters are right in this scene. I think Mills is correct with that line, considering all these ideological killers or lone wolfs that try to influence the world with their act and will achieve nothing eventually. They will be incarcerated for the rest of their lifes or executed. Only to be forgotten soon and the rest of the world will live their lifes like before.
@jambler15
@jambler15 Год назад
The dialogue starting at 3:11 is very underrated. Somerset points out the "glaring contradiction" in John's work, and John's retort really hints at Mills' vulnerability to wrath.
@norreras343
@norreras343 9 месяцев назад
Because it's the best defence when the bad guy starts to sound coherent
@Renagade2332
@Renagade2332 14 лет назад
I love how John Doe is enraging Mills and when Somerset just looks back into the mirror to see John Doe's face and their eyes connect....I just feel like Somerset suspected Doe had some plan for Mills.
@mohammedabdulwasay5855
@mohammedabdulwasay5855 3 года назад
Want he driving?
@Renagade2332
@Renagade2332 2 года назад
@@mohammedabdulwasay5855 there's a moment while Mills and Doe are talking that Somerset looks up into the rear view mirror and makes eye contact with Doe.
@Renagade2332
@Renagade2332 2 года назад
@@bigddlover1 oh for sure. The whole set up was fishy, but none of them could have expected what happened
@dmcrun3572
@dmcrun3572 Год назад
@@mohammedabdulwasay5855 both detectives knew there was more to the story but BP’s character was caught up in the moment while MF’s character was trying to figure out the next move or two
@dgmobbdeep
@dgmobbdeep 7 месяцев назад
Absolutely. Caught that too. Freeman senses something.
@bchen0709
@bchen0709 14 лет назад
The conversation between Pitt and Spacey is electric, but Freeman really makes this entire scene go. His subtle questions to John about his ideology, and the looks he casts at Mills for letting his emotions get control of him again. "And that's the point. We see a deadly sin on every street corner, in every home, and we tolerate it. We tolerate it because it's cometh, it's trivial."
@vc1396
@vc1396 5 месяцев назад
I think it's "because it's common, it's trivial"
@zerodood
@zerodood 7 лет назад
"A woman." "Murderers, John, like you said-..." "A WOOMUFF!"
@sonyarowe1327
@sonyarowe1327 7 лет назад
lmao
@candypants5099
@candypants5099 6 лет назад
Chaos ZT hahaha..
@THEJOKER-ii8wo
@THEJOKER-ii8wo 5 лет назад
Chaos ZT LOL
@ScarFail
@ScarFail 4 года назад
Whamen
@steve_santiago
@steve_santiago 2 года назад
“After that I picked the lawyer and you must have both been secretly thanking me for that one.” 🤣
@duffmanofmusic
@duffmanofmusic 14 лет назад
"Only in a world this shitty, could you even try to say these were innocent people and keep a straight face"
@wrath231
@wrath231 3 года назад
@@akshaynatu1084 And he "had" to do it to make Mills become wrath
@samatar6852
@samatar6852 3 года назад
@@akshaynatu1084 you were glad? The fuck is wrong with you. Ironically i feel like you're the type of person john doe would kill.
@SandersRobin24
@SandersRobin24 9 лет назад
I finally watched this movie in its entirety after 20 years. I can't believe this was actually Kevin Spacey. That's how you know it's great acting when the character is so insane and so creepy that you totally forget this guy is a household name actor.
@benashworth7653
@benashworth7653 8 лет назад
he wasn't even credited-they wanted to make it seem like a surprise because of his popularity at that time
@Kevin_Hazelton
@Kevin_Hazelton 7 лет назад
SandersRobin24
@Rich_Daniel78
@Rich_Daniel78 7 лет назад
AMEN to that Robin :-) Kevin will forever RULE!
@askme2015
@askme2015 6 лет назад
He wound up being as creepy as this in real life....sexual predator
@jameswilliams-of3mv
@jameswilliams-of3mv 6 лет назад
,,kevin will always be a great actor.. perfect casting here
@Balfour.
@Balfour. 9 лет назад
Best 8 minutes in Kevin Spacey's career
@keokio7
@keokio7 8 лет назад
+Arghiers usual suspects / american beauty
@sednafloating7027
@sednafloating7027 6 лет назад
I'd say - worst 8 minutes
@j.patrickboyce5513
@j.patrickboyce5513 6 лет назад
Best 8 minutes there’ll ever be, it seems.
@revealingtruth3329
@revealingtruth3329 6 лет назад
J. Patrick Boyce Yup cuz he won't be cast in anything anymore.
@revealingtruth3329
@revealingtruth3329 6 лет назад
J. Patrick Boyce Better enjoy his past performances
@leviathanmg
@leviathanmg 8 лет назад
"You need to stay on your left up here."
@sonyarowe1327
@sonyarowe1327 7 лет назад
lol
@chelseadraws4204
@chelseadraws4204 6 лет назад
leviathanmg lol I laughed too
@andrewpoderis8548
@andrewpoderis8548 4 года назад
OK that comment got me
@marlonsimmons3607
@marlonsimmons3607 4 года назад
Fukin Great lol
@screamrad218
@screamrad218 4 года назад
I can see where Chris Evans got that line from for Captain America: Winter Soldier at, lol.
@Shadoefax760
@Shadoefax760 Год назад
*"John Doe has the upper hand"* One of the best lines in the film if not the best, highlights just how brilliant he really is that Freeman concedes.
@Gustavo-nd3cx
@Gustavo-nd3cx 8 лет назад
a woman-- A WOMAN!
@thegirlinquestion
@thegirlinquestion 5 лет назад
@n a i dont think he likes....anyone....
@marcushennings9513
@marcushennings9513 4 года назад
But most importantly dont interrupt a serial murderer as he's talking.. especially if only to be a smart mouth.
@TheFlowerofSpades
@TheFlowerofSpades 4 года назад
LMFAO
@cs8712
@cs8712 4 месяца назад
"What is a woman, John?"
@ButteredToast32
@ButteredToast32 7 лет назад
"I seem to remember us knocking on your door." "Oh. That's right. And I seem to remember breaking your face." *shots fired*
@Voidwurm1701
@Voidwurm1701 6 лет назад
Shots will be fired back in the next scene. :P
@rectbosun
@rectbosun 6 лет назад
Buttered Toast t
@revealingtruth3329
@revealingtruth3329 6 лет назад
Prethoryn Scourge Unfortunately too little too late for John Doe's last two victims
@MixerMadness
@MixerMadness 5 лет назад
Revealing Truth is always figured the two victims were Tracy and doe as Pitt completed the last sin wrath and doe was the last victim technically you are right tho the baby died And does count as a victim I just always thought that’s how it was
@TheIrishsensei634
@TheIrishsensei634 5 лет назад
Industrial Technique technically tracey was killed not as a sin but as a way to endure the sin vengeance upon mills and of course john does for the envy of mills life with tracey, with her being pregnant and for mills to start a family, that was all of john does sin envy leaving mills the completion of the last sin
@RustinChole
@RustinChole 2 года назад
“You’re only alive because I didn’t kill you. I spared you. Remember that detective, every time you look in the mirror at that face of yours, for the rest of your life.....or should I say, for the rest of what life I’ve allowed you to have” deeply worried me in the theater as John Doe didn’t seem to be the bluffing type. But when he said that ONE word “Tracy,” i knew it was over. God what a movie.
@vitamindealer7915
@vitamindealer7915 Год назад
Its the most chilling line of all. He DGAF.
@jloo6822
@jloo6822 9 месяцев назад
I think the most jarring thing about him killing Tracy is that no matter how sick and twisted Doe is in his killings, the detectives could’ve almost felt a comfort factor in his game…everything is so calculated, so meaningful. Not random. He kills citizens that he feels have broken the moral code of the seven deadly sins. He’s not going for them, he’s not going for their families. Then at the very end he goes rogue, massacring Mills’ family. Yes, Tracy was the Envy victim, but she was the first victim that wasn’t guilty of any deadly sins. He made an exception. Just when you think it makes sense, and you have him figured out…you ain’t got nothin figured out.
@BenjaminSteber
@BenjaminSteber 3 года назад
I have never seen a scene where one guy was in the other guys head so deeply. It wasn't just rent free, he was collecting rent. Every goading line, every contrary point every taunt just pulled him in more and more. Chilling to the core.
@razorfett147
@razorfett147 2 года назад
Yep. Sommerset spent the entire week trying to temper Mills' passions and recklessness, but to no avail
@diane8937
@diane8937 4 месяца назад
In retrospect, of course.
@liciniusscapula7696
@liciniusscapula7696 7 лет назад
damn he roasted those 6 people
@joshcorbett4787
@joshcorbett4787 6 лет назад
Pyro Mancer 5
@BrokenSIMGlasses
@BrokenSIMGlasses 5 лет назад
He included Mills
@erinwilson2169
@erinwilson2169 2 года назад
This is still without a doubt my favourite scene in cinema. Pure brilliance from everyone involved.
@stevedombeck2817
@stevedombeck2817 Год назад
My favourite scene in the movie especially knowing what happens later at the end
@javascriptkiddie2718
@javascriptkiddie2718 Месяц назад
Sounds like a bible thumping extremist hypocrite to me
@ziigiiziig
@ziigiiziig 3 года назад
7:21 is such a chilling moment. John is looking at Somerset rather than Mills as he says this, as if he knows that Somerset is capable of higher thinking and understanding John's "work". I may be misinterpreting it, but this film is such a cinematic masterpiece that it can be taken apart and studied in so many different ways.
@dazzlernator
@dazzlernator 2 года назад
I don't think you misinterpreted it. John Doe definitely acknowledged Somerset's more cerebral and methodical thinking and Somerset shared John Doe's views on the abundance of perceived sinful behaviour and society's tolerance of it because it was commonplace. The clear difference between them is Somerset's disagreement in Doe's methods.
@Esteb86
@Esteb86 2 года назад
@@dazzlernator Somerset makes the comment at the very beginning when he's quitting about the man being stabbed in his eyes, and says he doesn't understand this world anymore. Ermey then says, "That's the way it's always been", and Somerset replies, "Maybe you're right." He sees the world as Doe does, but instead of fighting it anymore, or going off the deep end, he is cutting himself out of that world, and going to live as peacefully as he can, alone.
@dazzlernator
@dazzlernator 2 года назад
@@Esteb86 Yes, agreed though I'd say the man being stabbed in the eyes isn't the sole reason he quit. I'm certain after witnessing so many grotesqueries in his tenure, that was one timely incident to decide to leave the force. The Captain wouldn't be satisfied with Somerset feeling jaded in general and ask him more questions; Somerset needed one convenient and nasty crime that he believed would be satisfactory for the Captain not to ask further.
@sk8mafia214
@sk8mafia214 Год назад
@@Esteb86 But, he never leaves the force. Remember the scene were his boss asks he him “Were are you going to be? “Around….I’ll be around”
@Esteb86
@Esteb86 Год назад
@@sk8mafia214 I've always wondered that. Does he mean he's not retiring after all? Ermy said it in the beginning when he said he wouldn't be able to leave the life behind. But I also took it as he may not be on the force anymore, but he'd be around for them if they need him. After all, he did just finish the craziest case he's ever dealt with. What could compare? The ending has always been a question for me.
@klown839
@klown839 6 месяцев назад
“You’re only alive because I didn’t kill you. I spared you. Remember that, detective”…ABSOLUTELY GLORIOUS.
@JP_IN_TX
@JP_IN_TX 3 года назад
I'd have to say the final scene is Gweneths finest acting. Her pitch is awesome, lines are immaculate, and the little box wardrobe is befitting.
@EddyDurden
@EddyDurden 3 года назад
I prefer her head in a box rather than a Ironman suit.
@mindofmarlowe
@mindofmarlowe 2 года назад
The most frightening movie villains are the ones that are humanized. Where you can see, even in small part, the logic of their actions. How they may be justified in a small way. It scares us when we feel that. Fantastic movie.
@Devillionaire
@Devillionaire 2 года назад
An absolute master class in villain-acting. Spacey was an undeniable genius of the craft, and THAT’s the actual work that will be studied and respected for a long time to come. What he did with this movie - with only a FEW minutes of screentime… It reminds me of Edward Norton’s arrival in Primal Fear. Where everyone who saw that raw talent on display for the first time knew without a shred of doubt that they’d just seen the launch of a new actor about to catapult into the stratosphere of A-list talent.
@nicky29031977
@nicky29031977 4 года назад
John Doe to Mills..."for the rest of what life I have allowed you to have". Such a terrifying clue which Mills didn't pick up on!
@adamfitzgerald911
@adamfitzgerald911 4 года назад
"...by a higha POWAAA"
@georgeofhamilton
@georgeofhamilton 3 месяца назад
UNLIMITED…POWAAA
@moepogenisis6691
@moepogenisis6691 3 года назад
"It doesn't matter who I am, who I am means Absolutely nothing!"
@aryankaushik93
@aryankaushik93 3 года назад
it doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan
@LoyalNODZealot
@LoyalNODZealot 16 лет назад
As sad and twisted as his view of the world is... He was right. "Innocent... Is that suppose to be funny?" I love that line.
@cordarryl101
@cordarryl101 Год назад
I can't lie. I laughed when he said that
@Juanpablofanasito850
@Juanpablofanasito850 9 месяцев назад
Being fat does not make you deserve death
@Nathan-rn7wl
@Nathan-rn7wl 8 месяцев назад
We are all guilty of sin
@EddBSmith
@EddBSmith 4 года назад
Absolutely brilliant writing and acting. Phenomenal. No thriller has even gotten me so shook up like Seven did. Perfect example of how to constantly build tension slowly throughout with an amazing, logical twist at the end. The perfect film for what it is.
@ndepedentobserver4237
@ndepedentobserver4237 Год назад
The religious aspect of that film is really interesting.
@samuelgarcia6978
@samuelgarcia6978 3 года назад
"...People will barely be able to comprehend...but they won't be able to deny."
@josephsmith5596
@josephsmith5596 5 месяцев назад
If you ask me (& that’s just of course if you ask) all 3 actors in this movie knocked the ball outta the park with this one
@brendancox668
@brendancox668 6 лет назад
Love Detective Somerset's observation. Nailed him.
@alk6709
@alk6709 3 года назад
Three contrasting amazing actors. Putting them together itself is a winner move.
@killdano
@killdano 2 года назад
expertly written, shot, directed, acted and edited.
@Blaze-vj6ng
@Blaze-vj6ng Год назад
"wanting people to listen, you cant just tap them on the shoulder anymore, you have to hit them with a sledgehammer, then you'll notice you have their strict attention" chills..
@DamascusHounds
@DamascusHounds 15 лет назад
Did you notice that when Spacey gets to the lines, "we see a deadly sin on every streetcorner in every home..." he glances at the camera a couple of times. Great directing. Very cool.
@MatthewGalpin89
@MatthewGalpin89 7 лет назад
DamascusHounds They have street corners in homes now?
@solodolo2273
@solodolo2273 3 года назад
@@MatthewGalpin89 u let that comment go way over your head lmao
@hochigaming14yearsago90
@hochigaming14yearsago90 Год назад
@@solodolo2273 nah i think his reply went over yours bud.
@CYP0
@CYP0 9 лет назад
Awesome delivery. Kevin Spacey is awesome as always.
@Henman5
@Henman5 8 лет назад
What I love about this movie is that it's not the classical American good guys vs bad guys chase. All 3 main characters deserve respect and have some flaws at the same time. John Doe - he has a point, the world is a place full of lying, selfish people and there's nothing wrong in trying to change that status quo. But committing a series of brutal murders is not the way to do it, no matter how terrible the victims were (one of them was innocent - Mill's wife). Mills - wants to be a hero, wants to catch all the bad guys, believes in people (ok, he's naive, but that's not a sin), but at the same time is too emotional, constantly swears and yells and acts first, thinks later. And he has a huge ego. Somerset - he's probably the best out of the three, wise, smart and probably caught a lot of criminals during his time. But he's basically saying: "most people find apathy as a solution, I don't like it, but there's nothing I can do about it". Age is not an excuse, you shouldn't stop fighting for what you think is right. And let's not forget he practically killed his unborn child.
@ditokhetsuriani2144
@ditokhetsuriani2144 8 лет назад
+Henman5 Great choice of words. It's a very intriguing movie and I was quite thrilled to watch it for the first time. Definitely in my top 5 all-time films.
@trenauldo
@trenauldo 7 лет назад
Good points you make Henman... I would only add above concerning your quote, "he's naive, but that's not a sin"... There are actually several instances where the bible (if that's the standard we're using for sinfulness) address the evils of naivete, particularly in Proverbs... "The simple believes everything, but the prudent gives thought to his steps" 14:15 "The prudent sees danger and hides himself, but the simple go on and suffer for it." 27:12 I also think the point John Doe makes is that there are no innocents amongst humans, that we are all fallen in some form or fashion. That's likely why he had no compunction about killing them, seeing each of them as flawed in one way or another.
@makhulu3718
@makhulu3718 3 года назад
Mills wife is not innocent anyway. She decided to kill her baby. That’s why John let her die for her sin. I love the way too. Each women who abortion their baby must killed for their punish.
@ThothTheAtlanteanK
@ThothTheAtlanteanK 3 года назад
@@akshaynatu1084 As he said, once you hit them over the head with a sledgehammer you'll find you have there strict attention.
@lukeallen9497
@lukeallen9497 2 года назад
@@akshaynatu1084 Dexter killed evil people out of the love for his father, he didn't had any code, besides deb was the only human being keeping him on the track. John on the other hand, believed in what he was doing and felt justified in his actions.
@Ryan-ot3ux
@Ryan-ot3ux 8 лет назад
Line from line the greatest script of all time!
@tomhibbert1210
@tomhibbert1210 6 лет назад
7:19 - 7:22 that look Doe gives Sommerset. "See how out of touch your partner really is?!"
@thedarkknight9153
@thedarkknight9153 3 года назад
It's probably my favorite part of the entire movie
@shnoogums1
@shnoogums1 4 года назад
“I’m not special. I’ve never been exceptional. This is though. What I’m doing. My work.” I’ve always wanted to say that when someone asks me about myself lol
@40streetblack79
@40streetblack79 4 года назад
Snooogums,its exceptional?
@shnoogums1
@shnoogums1 4 года назад
@@40streetblack79 rightt thanks
@twmax6525
@twmax6525 2 года назад
Me showing this movie to someone who hasn’t seen it, especially the ending: “I can’t wait for you to see, I really can’t….it’s really going to be something.”
@ktm5194
@ktm5194 13 лет назад
usually when i watch a movie, i dont give my absolute full attention to it, but during this scene in particular, i was completely locked and engrossed into the dialogue. just amazing. kevin spacey really should have won an academy award for this.
@ohen
@ohen 6 лет назад
He won it for The Usual Suspects that year.
@jaygee9590
@jaygee9590 3 года назад
How many Hollywood films like this where the villain wins so completely?
@fromdaghettowithlove
@fromdaghettowithlove 13 лет назад
"You can't tap people on the shoulder, you have to hit them with a sledge hammer." Nice lines throughtout this movie, thats whats nice, even between the intese scenes there is so much good dialouge, an awesome movie no doubt, one of the best.
@ThumbsUpMike
@ThumbsUpMike 8 лет назад
Jon - 1 Mills - 0
@sherwinjohntusetregalado57
@sherwinjohntusetregalado57 8 лет назад
+Mike DeSimone Actually, John 2 - Mills 1 xD
@mrcooki3monster928
@mrcooki3monster928 7 месяцев назад
I love it when he says: Wanting people to listen, you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you'll notice you've got their strict attention I just love that line because it true today!!
@VanillaLimeCoke
@VanillaLimeCoke Год назад
7:39 I think it's at that point Somerset had a slight suspicion that Mills was going to be the wrath victim.
@True38
@True38 6 месяцев назад
They actually foreshadowed it quite well during one of the first scenes where you can clearly see Mills mad and annoyed when a guy who walks by him bumps into him as he’s talking to Somerset. He also gets mad several times throughout the movie, especially when the paparazzi (John Doe) is taking pictures of him, and he even admits to Somerset that he feeds off of his own emotions.
@patrickliterallymebateman9892
@patrickliterallymebateman9892 5 лет назад
3:12 "it's more comfortable for you to label me insane" so fucking true it's just really comfy to just call someone crazy or a goof and try hurting their feelings
@Drake00000010
@Drake00000010 4 года назад
Both are speaking the truth. John Doe was a lunatic. Putting himself on a pedestal for meaningless and awful shit. There are way more important shit.
@swaroopboyina4236
@swaroopboyina4236 3 года назад
@@akshaynatu1084 man you really are messed up ...why did that fat guy or the pride girl deserve that horrible deaths ... it's easy to judge someone's life when you don't have to go through what they go through
@emell7025
@emell7025 2 года назад
7:21 John looks at Somerset while talking to Mills because he knows that Somerset knows what's he doing, and enjoys it
@andyboerger
@andyboerger 2 месяца назад
the way the music builds when he says 'realize, Detective, the only reason you're here is because I wanted you to be' is chilling to the bone.
@frederik2334
@frederik2334 8 лет назад
we tolerate it because it is common
@SilverSnark
@SilverSnark 6 лет назад
watching this again i have to say that Freeman's acting here is great. Really understated but its there and you can kind of tell that Somerset knows something aint right in the car.
@dgmobbdeep
@dgmobbdeep 7 месяцев назад
ABSOLUTELY. HE FEELS something is coming. You clearly feel it.
@thatllputmarzipaninyourpie3117
The more the years go by--and the more headlines I read every day--the more John Doe makes a lot of sense
@palestine7296
@palestine7296 6 лет назад
Auto-Bahn Kenobi john doe makes perfect sense.
@patgogan7324
@patgogan7324 6 лет назад
Auto-Bahn Kenobi people rarely like to see the truth before their very eyes it hurts for too many I guess
@Clinically-Insane648
@Clinically-Insane648 5 лет назад
Well he kind of made sense in some cases but killing a pregnant woman just to satisfy a pathetic impulse of envy over a cop who's investigating him and then presenting it as like he was acting against the unjustified sinners was more like a psychopath with seriously biased ways of understandings. Gluttony, laziness and pride aren't crimes that are punishable by death. The movie portray's a man with self satisfying delusions in order to justify his self presumed "good work". He can only imagine himself or his work "good" when he have others to blame for being inferior or in his context "sinners".
@thegirlinquestion
@thegirlinquestion 5 лет назад
ok incels
@2cutekandy
@2cutekandy 5 лет назад
It only makes sense to those who see the world in a hopeless way but not those who see room for growth and healing.
@lostmotion18
@lostmotion18 5 лет назад
Wanting people to listen, you can’t just tap them on the shoulder any more. You have to hit them with a sludge hammer and then you’ll notice you’ve got their strict attention... What an accurate metaphorical statement!
@simple-commentator-not-rea7345
5:25 Let's also not forget, a murderer, so jelous with the life of a completely normal cop, that he dedicated his entire life to punish him and society for the life he never had and through it all, he disguised his little personal quest for revenge as a doing of God
@100EmotionalDamage
@100EmotionalDamage 6 лет назад
"It seems that Envy is my sin...Become vengeance David, Become ... Wrath."
@JonM555
@JonM555 6 лет назад
He didn't forget it. He kept it for later.
@mentadere
@mentadere 5 лет назад
@James Shut up man, you're so pathetic putting yourself above others by using the word "normies" as if you weren't part of the problem.
@bluehat3673
@bluehat3673 5 лет назад
@James r/iamverysmart
@tysontwenty
@tysontwenty 5 лет назад
@James yes but as another pointed out, John Doe lacked grace and forgiveness. This was his central flaw but it was enough for his plan and great example to lose most of it's meaning.
@bchen0709
@bchen0709 14 лет назад
It's interesting that Pitt said that about himself; many critics contend this movie is what made him an ACTOR, not just a handsome face. That look of confusion when he hears that Tracy was pregnant.....oh man.
@chelseadraws4204
@chelseadraws4204 6 лет назад
I love how detective Somerset was silently looking at his compelling speech, like he was argeeing with him.
@starhunter9085
@starhunter9085 3 года назад
**agreeing*
@orbitalbutt6757
@orbitalbutt6757 2 года назад
He didn’t agree at all. But he understood. That’s the fundamental difference between somerset and mills
@dazzlernator
@dazzlernator 2 года назад
​@@orbitalbutt6757 To say "he didn't agree at all" is an oversimplication. Somerset can conceivably agree with John Doe's views that there is sinful behaviour everywhere and its unbiquity had led to its tolerance by society in general. Somerset can agree AND understand on that front. What Somerset disagreed with is John Doe's methods as well as the notion that was "chosen" to do it.
@nostaligsoundtracker
@nostaligsoundtracker 2 года назад
Somerset was the real killer of the movie
@5wheels178
@5wheels178 Год назад
@@dazzlernator I don't think that Somerset believes that prostitutes deserve to die horrible deaths. It's a very simplistic reading to say that Somerset thinks the same way as Doe. He just seems him as an inevitable symptom of social alienation.
@WolfataDoor
@WolfataDoor 4 года назад
One of the best scenes in movie history.
@Smeeeth
@Smeeeth 15 лет назад
"Oh. That's right. And I seem to remember breaking your face." I ADORE Kevin Spacey's dialogue in this movie
@litrpgre-roll7929
@litrpgre-roll7929 2 года назад
A master class in acting and filmmaking. The best build up to a climax in film history.
@lordgoro
@lordgoro 2 года назад
somerset was the smartest one there
@chuckselvage3157
@chuckselvage3157 2 года назад
He says he wasn't exceptional but he was.He was super intelligent his argument about society was valid. He made Hannibal Lecter look like a nice guy.
@sparrowprince3432
@sparrowprince3432 Год назад
All that collapsed when he raped and murdered an innocent woman, and then decapitated her. He was a vicious monster. And Hannibal Lecter won too, at the end of Silence of the Lambs. Walked off into the sunset, free as a bird. John Doe and Hannibal Lecter are equals.
@jboogie841
@jboogie841 7 лет назад
Good and evil is based on ones perception of what's right and what's wrong. For example you may view murder wrong but in the eyes of another individual he or she may consider it the norm. So in the end there's no black and white line between good and evil, Its simply the matter of perception in the eyes of the person.
@evankaiafas6219
@evankaiafas6219 2 года назад
This is one of those scenes that you have to watch again after finishing the entire film. So many hidden details that only appear when you already know the ending.
@dgmobbdeep
@dgmobbdeep 7 месяцев назад
Absolutely. Got to rewatch the whole scene.
@indrancole3
@indrancole3 16 лет назад
Im seeing Kevin Spacey on stage soon, so psyched! He's one of my top favourite actors and this scene is one of so many reasons why.
@LouSassoleSledgecock
@LouSassoleSledgecock 9 месяцев назад
Notice the positioning of the fence inside the car over the eyes in each shot even. Symbolizing whose eyes are truly open and whose are closed. Incredible details in this film
@cliffwayne7459
@cliffwayne7459 4 года назад
In my opinion, this is the best ending in movies. . Brad Pitts acting was intentionally adolescent.. he was a rookie facing a cold calculated mad man with a plan. He was behind the curve on purpose. The ending was crazy. John Doe knew he would kill him.
@bellaf7774
@bellaf7774 8 лет назад
"Sit back you fucking freak!" I love u Brad 😂😂😂❤️❤️❤️
@hotfella4659
@hotfella4659 6 лет назад
2:01 "Cause I wouldnt want to miss it" "Oh dont worry you dont" "You wont miss a thing" oh mann he only knew what hes talkin about, these detectives dont see it coming yet! " Oh you wont" talkin about the bullet what will go into his head later by mills. "You wont miss a thing" Talkin about whats inside the box what he will see later, just genious, genious
@keokio7
@keokio7 8 лет назад
The psycho actually has a point. We tolerate sin and the extreme nature of his crimes only reflect the extreme nature of sin that we've grown tolerant to. He ended it with giving up his own life and pay for his sin to set the ultimate example. But what separates him from normal people is that he lacks the concept of forgiveness and grace, without it his world would actually make sense.
@danielappleton5067
@danielappleton5067 8 лет назад
+keokio7 " vengeance is mine, I will repay ". John Doe actually sees himself as an instrument of Old Testament divine retribution, no forgiveness, no chance for redemption, no parole. & killing an innocent whose only " sin " is being the wife of the detective investigating him - well, I think getting killed is justifiable. Karma / " you reap what you sow ".
@shady8045
@shady8045 3 года назад
Yeah but you don’t deserve to be brutally murdered for being fat or a sexual deviant man. That’s the point
@jimsty5222
@jimsty5222 2 года назад
The ending was so tragic, grim and terrifying but so good. Morgan Freeman, Brad Pitt, Andrew Todd Walker, David Fincher and especially Kevin Spacey made a true masterpiece! The fact that it wasn't even just nominated for the Best Picture Oscar that year blows my mind. One of the biggest Oscar snubs of the last century.
@GingerLoyd2901
@GingerLoyd2901 3 года назад
I dont know why but when he starts getting excited and starts wiggling it makes me laugh so hard.
@larma7
@larma7 17 лет назад
Thanks for uploading. I think this scene is not only better than the final scene in the film but also has the best dialogue ever in a film...........Brilliant dialogue!
@poopyman-oo4eh
@poopyman-oo4eh 3 года назад
Yap.
@jerramaurice7836
@jerramaurice7836 5 лет назад
At first the original casting as the detectives were Al Pacino as Morgan Freeman’s character and Denzel Washington as Mills that would’ve been so awesome too!!!!!!!!!
@icemorewaterless
@icemorewaterless 9 лет назад
Congressman Underwood talking about seven deadly sins in a car ride.
@Onmysheet
@Onmysheet 8 лет назад
Better than on a subway.
@thewrathematician1911
@thewrathematician1911 8 лет назад
+Onmysheet Or under one.
@EverDownward
@EverDownward 5 лет назад
I enjoy that the movie only gives you just a very small taste of seeing John Doe meet his on that soapbox of his by his, arguably, intellectual equal in Summerset. You so very much want to see John Doe get his, but the conflict is squarely against a man that represents the society he resents. That's why it's so satisfying, if it's only for the briefest of seconds, to see Doe get served his own schlock - it's a fleeting, ethereal catharsis that lasts for but a moment. Kinda reflects what the movie is trying to pass off, really: that what is truly good is a rare element in a world as jaded as is perceived.
@PalmettoGD
@PalmettoGD 3 года назад
I was on my feet for the final fifteen minutes of this movie
@rustcohle8638
@rustcohle8638 6 лет назад
Pitt said on the DVD commentary that he really regrets how he handled this scene. After watching this for the first time in a while, I can kinda see why. He's not really on Spacey and Freeman's level here.
@scottmatheson3346
@scottmatheson3346 5 лет назад
The fact that he's not on a level with the other two is the whole point, though. It's necessary to his being manipulated into becoming wrath.
@xxunilizzyxxxxunilizzyxx5427
@xxunilizzyxxxxunilizzyxx5427 4 года назад
*YEAH BUT CAN U REALLY BLAME HIM, THO...????????* *THIS WAS LIKE, HIS 5TH MOVIE OR SOMETHIN...*
@xxunilizzyxxxxunilizzyxx5427
@xxunilizzyxxxxunilizzyxx5427 4 года назад
@@scottmatheson3346 If one didn't like his character then I'd say Brad did his job right
@heathernikki5734
@heathernikki5734 3 года назад
I think it's perfect
@patriceaqa288
@patriceaqa288 2 года назад
Rust Cohle I think this was Pitts' best ever performance. I think he's harshly judging himself because he was always picked for his looks until he moved on from this. I actually think he was excellent here. The delusional arrogant 'hero' cop who simply despises serial killers paedophiles and is about to have his world shattered. I appreciate his acting here
@Dimensionaluk
@Dimensionaluk 15 лет назад
The epicness of 3 fantastic actors in the same movie, in the same scene well you can hardly contain it
@yourmothercalledshesaid
@yourmothercalledshesaid 4 месяца назад
"Do you see those high tension towers? That is where we're headed..." I love the spot of irony in naming the finale's stage by John Doe. Very well written.
@solemgameinsights
@solemgameinsights 15 лет назад
What's really sick is the world that requires people to use those substances to be able to cope with reality.
@Troy-ol5fk
@Troy-ol5fk 2 года назад
He is so calm in his last moments
@True38
@True38 6 месяцев назад
Life task.
@ObiShinobi-bg2tk
@ObiShinobi-bg2tk 14 дней назад
Long and hard is the way that out of hell; leads up to light. And it's the only sunny scene in the whole film. Absolutely brilliant!
@charlieclark9552
@charlieclark9552 4 года назад
What is life's greatest illusion, innocence, my brother Sithis
@EpicWorld85
@EpicWorld85 3 года назад
👌
@omarmokhtar7205
@omarmokhtar7205 7 лет назад
Brilliant writing and directing. The level of tension and suspense that this scene brings would serve to enhance what would be one of the greatest endings ever put on film. David Fincher is a filmmaking genius even for his second feature.
@meowjmeowington9076
@meowjmeowington9076 4 года назад
Every time Morgan Freeman speaks I’m like thank God. Let the grownups talk
@ineedsaltplease620
@ineedsaltplease620 10 месяцев назад
The way his mouth is in the grating
@johnwahl752
@johnwahl752 2 года назад
And for all we know Tracy head was not even in the box. All it showed was blood
@jameshaggerty8348
@jameshaggerty8348 2 года назад
Then what was Morgan Freeman looking at in the box? He recognized something familiar, and he saw Brad Pitt with Kevin Spacey, talking to him. How do you explain that?
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