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Seven surprising results from the reduction of Arctic Sea ice cover | David Barber | TEDxUManitoba 

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This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences. It is now well known that sea ice in the Arctic has changed in both extent and thickness over the past several decades. In fact the change in sea ice is seen as one of the key global climate variables confirming model estimates of global scale warming of our planet through the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) process. Extensive investigations at the leading edge of Arctic System Science have recently uncovered a number of surprises, many somewhat counterintuitive, each having significant consequences in the Arctic and through teleconnections to the rest of our planet. In this talk I will review the rate and magnitude of change in sea ice, put this into the context of our understanding of the ‘natural variability’ in sea ice over the past several thousand years. I will then review seven surprising impacts of this change: 1) increasing coverage of young ice significantly changes atmospheric chemistry; 2) more snow both preserves and destroys ice; 3) Polar bear habitat can actually improve in some areas while deteriorating in others; 4) match-mismatch timing in the marine ecosystem increases vulnerability; 5) uncertainty as to whether the Arctic ocean will increase or decrease in overall productivity is a key unknown; 6) evidence that ice hazards are actually increasing while the world marshals to increase development of Arctic resources; and 7) evidence that our recent cold winters are actually linked to our warming Arctic.
Dr. Barber obtained his Bachelors and Masters from the University of Manitoba, and his Ph.D. from the University of Waterloo, Ontario. He was appointed to a faculty position at the University of Manitoba in 1993 and received a Canada Research Chair in Arctic System Science in 2002. He is currently Associate Dean (Research), CHR Faculty of Environment, Earth and Resources. Dr. Barber has extensive experience in the examination of the Arctic marine environment as a ‘system’, and the effect climate change has on this system. Dr. Barber has published over 200 articles in the peer-reviewed literature pertaining to sea ice, climate change and physical-biological coupling in the Arctic marine system. He led the largest International Polar Year project in the world, known as the Circumpolar Flaw Lead system study. He is recognized internationally through scientific leadership in large network programs such as NOW, CASES, ArcticNet, and the Canadian Research Icebreaker (Amundsen), as an invited member of several Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council national committees, international committees and invitations to national and international science meetings. Dr. Barber was instrumental in a national competition to bring a Canada Excellence Research Chair (CERC) to the University of Manitoba in the field of Arctic Geomicrobiology and Climate Change. As a member of the Centre for Earth Observation Science he leads a polar marine science group of over 100 people
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@sverre371
@sverre371 5 лет назад
So what about the Norwegian ice breaker that got stuck this year? 1924 there was no ice at all north of Svalbard, what kind of fee do we have to pay for buying better and more ice for the polar bears? We need more CO2, not less, the plant life is at a starving level.
@ushalexa
@ushalexa 5 лет назад
Dear people who film and edit these videos: When speakers point and refer to the visual aids they use during their presentation, please, please, PLEASE feature that visual aid prominently within the video. No matter how charming the speaker is or how informative the talk is, most of the information worth sharing is lost if we can't see what the speaker is speaking about. This makes what might have been a valuable talk almost worthless in its video form. I'm sure you would agree that is a horrendous waste-even of your own time and effort, as the video editors. In most cases, the speakers are not up there to be featured in their own fabulous close-ups; they want to communicate something, and they've designed visual aids to help them communicate their important ideas. Please do them and your entire audience a favor by helping them out with that. Thanks so much! Respectfully.
@anonymike8280
@anonymike8280 5 лет назад
Learning is a journey, not a destination.
@anonymike8280
@anonymike8280 5 лет назад
​@Jon Smith Many variations on that. Life is a journey, not a destination. Religion is a journey, not a destination. Learning had better be a journey for me. I'm 71 years old and just finishing my master's degree. For some, the people who need the degree to get a raise or a certain promotion, it is a destination. But I think making it a destination does undermine the process learning. People tell me sometimes, you're never too old. I tell them, on the other hand, maybe this is the right time. It could be.
@masada2828
@masada2828 5 лет назад
And I soooooo agree with you!!!
5 лет назад
@@masada2828 And I soooo DISAGREE with both of you climate deniers!
@SKRAPNOID
@SKRAPNOID 5 лет назад
ALMOST worthless? Haha, it basically IS
@patersjy
@patersjy 7 лет назад
Why are the slides not shown 90% of the time? I can listen and watch without seeing the speaker.
@nicevideomancanada
@nicevideomancanada 5 лет назад
This is TEDx
@mikewhite9818
@mikewhite9818 5 лет назад
John Paterson Very poorly done. Typical amateur shoot.
@bonmarie174
@bonmarie174 5 лет назад
@Trigger Troll NO they're not (spell check much?)!
@bonmarie174
@bonmarie174 5 лет назад
@Trigger Troll Oh I see ... now why would you bother doing that?
@torrace12
@torrace12 5 лет назад
exactly
@helanmback4179
@helanmback4179 7 лет назад
why would your obviously important information to civilization not be shown in the video? did someone not have instructions to point the camera at your images on the screen?
@grindupBaker
@grindupBaker 6 лет назад
David's beard is mesmerizing so it's understandable.
@jeebus6263
@jeebus6263 5 лет назад
Yes, good app for pip.
@NeoN-PeoN
@NeoN-PeoN 5 лет назад
Helan? I'm Back!
@torrace12
@torrace12 5 лет назад
lol
@aylbdrmadison1051
@aylbdrmadison1051 5 лет назад
The camera operator is probably a conservative (
@jeffgold3091
@jeffgold3091 3 года назад
when the newest largest Norwegian ice breaker set out recently for the North Pole it ran into ice much thicker than expected , was damaged and had to return to Norway . I think the takeaway is that satellite estimates of ice thickness are not to be relied upon . also , there is significant yearly variation . ice cover is greatly affected by wind speed and direction . as of 2021 there is no statistical trend in arctic sea ice for the last 15 years .
@isaacmadhavan
@isaacmadhavan 5 лет назад
Superb! Such a fluent and easily comprehensible presentation of a complex set of topics! My thanks to David Barber for choosing to do this as well as to TED and the University of Manitoba for the platform. However, as to the video itself, I join others in expressing that the slides were NOT clearly shown. Perhaps the screen can be split into two showing the presenter on one side and the slides on the other?
@babyabraham51
@babyabraham51 6 лет назад
great and wonderful information. If only we could see those slides !!! We CANNOT GO TO THE ARCTIC, WE MISSED THE TED TALK ALIVE. AND NOW WE MISSED THE SELF EXPLANATORY SLIDES . STILL THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT INFORMATION
@marklewis4793
@marklewis4793 5 лет назад
thanks TEDx,..this reminded me of radio.
@bjarnieinarsson3472
@bjarnieinarsson3472 5 лет назад
Exactly.. video of the speaker but no slides or pictures what he's talking about could as easily be broadcasted on radio.
@uncertaintytoworldpeace3650
@uncertaintytoworldpeace3650 Месяц назад
Observably trapped using more than what is necessary.
@OlaJesusAdebayo
@OlaJesusAdebayo 3 года назад
Powerful... i wish i can listen to update on this today (2021). "The earth does not come with a manual"....hits me hard
@eiCal193
@eiCal193 6 лет назад
Good info, but almost all the graphics and video stuff is lost. I don't need to see the closeup of the speaker, but the entire presentation.
@torrace12
@torrace12 5 лет назад
thats no coincidence
@ctmhcoloradotreasureminehu8385
Wow, what a difference four years makes.
@torrace12
@torrace12 5 лет назад
lol
@indenial3340
@indenial3340 4 года назад
Chicken Little must be using graphics from Al gore. They won't show it!
@reference2me
@reference2me 7 лет назад
are we at the end of an ice age? will the world look like it did before the ice age if all the ice melts?It seem man cannot control the weather so wouldn't it be better to accept change.
@jdan2940
@jdan2940 6 лет назад
Nope we are at the end of the warming period and ice age "coming" (ok can be between few months to few centuries lool... but coming... Big ice periods about 100000ans with a 15000-20000 warming period. We are at the end of the actual one! +variations of 400y, and this one is coming very soon! (Jupiter+saturn alignment starting 2019 ) Maybe the climate hoax on purpose to hide this reality and let the elites build their shelters and leave the rest of the world die on the surface! (with ice no food even if you manage to heat yourself)!
@RosyOutlook2
@RosyOutlook2 6 лет назад
reference2me "t seem man cannot control the weather so wouldn't it be better to accept change." YES man can and has, and that is what climate change is, the manipulation and engineering of both weather and climate with technology.
@Endorfen2011
@Endorfen2011 4 года назад
I question the comment about the concern over the saltier surface ice and the interaction with the ozone. How does the saltier sea ice effect the reduction in ozone. It would seem I lack the knowledge to make the link. Please explain.
@krnlg
@krnlg 8 лет назад
Wouldn't it be good to show the slides a bit more in this video....?
@ReasonablySane
@ReasonablySane 5 лет назад
I come from the future, 2019. We discovered that we didn't really know as much as we thought we did about arctic ice. Turns out it was just in a cycle and now we've got more than we used to. It turned out to be Much Ado About Nothing.
@rdavidmurphy1
@rdavidmurphy1 5 лет назад
I cannnot watch it, the slides do not show ???
@steveh3872
@steveh3872 5 лет назад
This was a graphic presentation without the graphics. Lots of great shots of the speaker referring to the graphics though. Too annoying to finish.
@SKRAPNOID
@SKRAPNOID 5 лет назад
Im with you there! I havent been able to endure a single one of these "Tedx talks" to the end for the life of me!
@michaeldeierhoi4096
@michaeldeierhoi4096 5 лет назад
You kids are still struggling with short attention spans. Keep working at it, you can only get better.
@briansmith7791
@briansmith7791 Год назад
Very interesting presentation. I'd love to see a follow-up to see whether the issues mentioned have continued, increased, or decreased. Is there still a lot of "rotten" sea ice, and is it more than previously? For polar vortex, there was certainly a lot of attention at one point, but it seems to have disappeared from weather discussion. Is that because the effect is now routine, or because it has migrated to different parts of the world, or because 2014 was just one freak occurrence? What other new and surprising results have come from ongoing research?
@string15276
@string15276 5 лет назад
Do ice breakers compound the shrinking of ice caps. If you break up ice it melts quicker. Maybe small consequence but can't help
@donaldmorton8404
@donaldmorton8404 4 года назад
Yeah and what about all that CO2 given off by their diesel engines
@godfreypigott
@godfreypigott 2 года назад
What a ridiculous comment.
@Whistlewalk
@Whistlewalk 5 лет назад
Would have been REALLY nice if we could have seen the slides he is referring to!!!
@MrFuzzKat
@MrFuzzKat 6 лет назад
It would help if the camera focused on the board and not the speaker????
@Ron_the_Skeptic
@Ron_the_Skeptic 5 лет назад
I like the notion at 11:20 that reduced ice at the north pole lets heat escape from the ocean.
@wlhgmk
@wlhgmk 8 лет назад
When the ocean is open enough, the resulting heating of the atmosphere over the Arctic ocean should become an area of rising air instead of falling air as it is classically. This should suck the climate zones northward and disrupt the major grain growing areas of the northern hemisphere. The polar jet stream should disappear and we might well have a two Hadley cell system in the northern hemisphere.
@michaelmcneil4168
@michaelmcneil4168 7 лет назад
I have difficulty understanding what you are saying. With no ice there is no reflected summer heat, all you will have is refracted heat but a lot more of it will not be refracted, surely? If not refracted it will absorb at depth. Do you have any idea how much that will be? Also how have you managed to compute your thermohaline effect?
@grindupBaker
@grindupBaker 6 лет назад
+William Hughes-Games Interesting thought thanks.
@donfox1036
@donfox1036 6 лет назад
William Hughes-Games, thé effect of melting sea ice in the arctic is that we’re all fect.
@jean-pierredevent970
@jean-pierredevent970 5 лет назад
I hope only that this all not leads to stalling of wind because of less difference between equator and poles. All our windmills would have problems then delivering at the moment when we need them most.
@jeffgold3091
@jeffgold3091 3 года назад
same explanation of polar vortex changes as attributed to global cooling in the 70's .you can assert anything if there is no way to falsify it
@Philippositivity
@Philippositivity 5 лет назад
🛶🏹 Greenland was green with vineyards and forestry. ♻️🐂💨
@lajwantishahani1225
@lajwantishahani1225 6 лет назад
Excellent talk presenting the facts. Always great (though spooky) to hear from someone who has worked in the Arctic region and speaks from first hand experience and observation.
@MrSimonw58
@MrSimonw58 5 лет назад
Billions in funding for a 10 minute talk
@photoman3579
@photoman3579 Год назад
He is wrong too !!
@MatthiasUrlichs
@MatthiasUrlichs 7 лет назад
Slides?
@freeandcriticalthinker4431
@freeandcriticalthinker4431 5 лет назад
And can’t see almost any of the slides. What is the logic in this? Creditably is badly effected by such basic omissions such as this
@buckfisherGBY
@buckfisherGBY 5 лет назад
It was a lot warmer in the last Interglacial Period, and the Polar Bears made it through it fine. Who told you CO2 drives temperature? It never has in the past, (see Vostok ice core data). A warming during this interglacial period is not only possible, but likely as past interglacial periods have all been much warmer than this one, (Coolest interglacial in last 1/2 million years), we could warm by 4-6 degrees C. The last interglacial was 4 degrees C warmer than we are, and the oceans were 20' higher than now.
@buckfisherGBY
@buckfisherGBY 5 лет назад
Real scientists have been studying the record of the planet's climate, using ice cores from Antarctica, among other places. You should learn what research is and how to do it. Search for Vostok ice core data graphs. Read the pear reviewed articles about their findings. You have only given us your title, "Dr. Climate Denier", and your name, Mr. "Duhhh". With all your studying of a picture of one area, over a relatively short time period of time, when do you predict the next Glaciation will begin? I'm guessing it will start sometime between now, and 10,000yrs from now.
5 лет назад
@@buckfisherGBY Blaa blaa blaa. Where did you go to school...Drumpf University?
@buckfisherGBY
@buckfisherGBY 5 лет назад
+James Fox I'm guessing your missed out on any real education, from your remarks and their lack of content.
@matsfreedom
@matsfreedom 5 лет назад
Surprising result no. 8: the ice is growing.
@denisdaly1708
@denisdaly1708 5 лет назад
In some places, however, it's volume is declining unfortunately.
@dochollywood4576
@dochollywood4576 5 лет назад
Not declining, just changing locations. Antartic sea ice is at an all time high.
@Venuslovefactor
@Venuslovefactor 5 лет назад
truly excellent - thank you. please keep informing the sheep
@sarahromero8090
@sarahromero8090 6 лет назад
omg all marine biologists mention cocktail parties
@Jollyprez
@Jollyprez 5 лет назад
So much for the polar bear forecast.
@forestdweller5581
@forestdweller5581 4 года назад
There are people who study bears. Have you read their work?
@forestdweller5581
@forestdweller5581 4 года назад
@Pistol Pete You probably do a good job of scaring your kids all by yourself.
@ub2bn
@ub2bn 4 года назад
And yet another deflection by an alarmist. So, what personal insult are you gonna hurl at me, now?
@claudelebel49
@claudelebel49 5 лет назад
No ice equals major temperature increase.
@GamingDad
@GamingDad 5 лет назад
Depends where you live... in Africa I could mean a temperature increase in Europe it could mean a temperature decrease.
@HandfisH100
@HandfisH100 5 лет назад
Now we can get to meet the people living in the opening more easily?
@abyagowi7
@abyagowi7 Год назад
RIP David Barber. You were always my inspiration.
@fanOmry
@fanOmry 5 лет назад
1. A Reminder of basic Physics. Ice only contains salt if the ice water freezes too fast for the ice to reject the salt. So that rotten Ice.. would indicate a lower temp' at winter. 2. Water that distrupt the air above would lead the disruption. So the vortex should have been over water. Not it the continental US. Not to mention Canada. 3. The old Ice is there anymore. Same time- the old Ice is hazardous. Ok.
@sdluedtke3368
@sdluedtke3368 5 лет назад
Very enlightening ..... Thank you for your polar ice lecture.
@nobumafu
@nobumafu Год назад
This was a great presentation. I really wish the TEDx producers would show the slide when the speaker is referring to it, rather than focusing on the speaker :/
@dennissalisbury496
@dennissalisbury496 5 лет назад
I believe seagoing tug boats could redirect the icebergs away from stationary vessels, however slowly?
@brpawankumariyengar4227
@brpawankumariyengar4227 5 лет назад
Dennis Salisbury even better could bring them to tropics and give us respite from heat
@naomideguyane
@naomideguyane 5 лет назад
Thank you Dr.Barber for standing in this 21st Century AGORA & talking to us all!
@tomfommber
@tomfommber 5 лет назад
Okay. The Day After Tomorrow. Almost that exact image was used in that movie 15 years ago. Thats disturbing.
@jmroxx1
@jmroxx1 6 лет назад
Thanks for describing what has been going on since the beginning of time. Thanks again
@BlahBlooBlee4205
@BlahBlooBlee4205 5 лет назад
U sir are a dingus
@Policesamuri77717
@Policesamuri77717 5 лет назад
This video was made in 2015. There are now more than 35000 polar bears, many
@Policesamuri77717
@Policesamuri77717 5 лет назад
Many more polar bear triplets are being born than ever before. It is very possible that the polar bear population will reach 40,000 in the near future. We have never seen so many polar bears before.
@godfreypigott
@godfreypigott 2 года назад
@@Policesamuri77717 Have you been counting them?
@nickhanley5407
@nickhanley5407 6 лет назад
But not a word about the record large amount of growth (winter maximum) or the growing ice caps in Antarctica...
@thanesgames9685
@thanesgames9685 6 лет назад
There are no growing icecaps in the antarctic. The sea ice there is greater in the winter, but it is because of all the freshwater melting off of the continent that freezes faster than saltwater. The surface of the sea around Antarctica is diluting from the runoff of all the melting ice on land.
@frankspeaking2630
@frankspeaking2630 5 лет назад
Due to the size of Antarctica and the circumpolar current both ocean and atmospheric there is an increase in snow well inland (was always in the models , in fact due to it's peculiarities Antarctica melt was not expected until next century), but happening much quicker due to the warmer oceans eating the ice away from underneath and allowing the great ice sheets to flow down to the ocean. It has also been far warmer in West Antarctica and the loss of land ice there is resulting in a rebound of the crust, this matters because it is a volcanic region (lots of volcano's on East and West Antarctica) and that rebound is altering the viscosity of the crust and mantle as pressure is being reduced on volcanic vents and magma channels meaning increasing volcanic activity as the magma plumes head crustward, this will just melt more ice. Tipping points are being approached all over the place
@nickhanley5407
@nickhanley5407 5 лет назад
Frank Speaking yeah you’re right there are a lot of volcanoes, but only on the western side really. It doesn’t change the facts that the glaciers and ice caps in the southern region of this planet are indefinitely growing. New Zealand, the Andes, and Antarctica, all follow the same trend.
@frankspeaking2630
@frankspeaking2630 5 лет назад
Wrong, the worlds tallest ACTIVE volcano is in East Antarctica - there are plenty of volcano's and active areas under East Antarctica, look it up. The thing is they tend to be well inland and as a result are covered by mile high ice sheets and actually in many cases provide under ice oasis with huge liquid lakes with life and a slow leakage of water along the bedrock
@frankspeaking2630
@frankspeaking2630 5 лет назад
It is the trend over time as the ocean and atmosphere cycles do their magic, South America is actually facing future water issues as so many are dependant on meltwater from rapidly shrinking glaciers, watch and learn, one swallow does not spring make
@h.skiprobinson7668
@h.skiprobinson7668 5 лет назад
Our planet is a constantly changing environment. Thinking that a single place on the planet is going to have the same environment such as temperature or amount of ice, year after year is an erroneous supposition in and of itself. Even the magnetic poles and spin of the earth are changing. You can try to measure the conditions but the results don't really give us as much a conclusive value as some are suggesting. Think of the human body or financial investment. Past performances are not necessarily indicative of future results. I have no problem with people making predictions based on past performances, but we should never take them to the bank and God forbid, let politicians alter our economic future based on these type predictions.
@jpuckett5580
@jpuckett5580 6 лет назад
So where do you stand now that the ice has returned in great amounts? You haven't deleted all your videos.
@dannygjk
@dannygjk 6 лет назад
The effect of CO2 in the atmosphere is known science. Some things have been worked out not only in theory but confirmed by experiments. Oh and btw google what has happened to plankton.
@jpuckett5580
@jpuckett5580 6 лет назад
Dan Kelly "Known science?" All "science" is is the practice of observation, collection, hypothesis, and testing of something. Saying it is a "known science" suggests you have no idea what you are talking about. Now, assuming I think I know what you meant to say, all (I repeat, ALL) predictions we have on what happens if we increase CO2 is purely theoretical, built on MANMADE MODELS that have so far been wrong. Every single prediction has been wrong! Let's take a look at Al Gore's famous hockey stick. During the Industrial Revolution, global temps WENT DOWN, not up. During the Great Deoression, global temps went up, not down. Hmm! During the WW2 era, global temps went down. Oops!
@jpuckett5580
@jpuckett5580 6 лет назад
Ahh, come on. Your retort is an attempt at insult? So much for intellectual conversation or debate. But, I see it all the time. It's okay. When people don't understand enough to debate, they get into name-calling. I see where you are intellectually now. Thank you.
@qinby1182
@qinby1182 6 лет назад
@Rick Torbet The effects of CO2 is well known and replicable in a laboratory, *IT IS NOT PURELY THEORETHICAL* The reason models are used, it is not exactly sure how much the earth climate sensitivity is but that it is undoubtedly resulting in increased global temperatures, that is observed facts. It would be a mystery if increased CO2 levels did not result in raised temperatures. The models are pretty accurate, don't know what you have looked at. CO2 is not the only factor that affects the temperature it acts like an amplifier, in the end it is about how much solar irradiance that reach earth and that varies but CO2 is undoubtedly increasing the temperature from what it would have been without it. Good example look at the moon.... The fact that not every year is the warmest ever is of course a good thing, meaning of course some years temperatures goes down but the trend line is clear, steady rising temperatures. Al Gore is not a climate scientist he is a polititian, not a great source for facts, he did get some things wrong but reached he'´s objective. What the alternative to "Man made models" is I do not know, stone tablets from God??
@jpuckett5580
@jpuckett5580 6 лет назад
Umm NO. There is no evidence that increased temperatures is "undoubtedly resulting" from increased CO2. We really don't have any evidence in increased global temperatures at all. We see slight increases in some parts of the earth, and slight decreases in other parts of the earth. That suggests BALANCE, no imbalance. It doesn't help that our "global warming" data points have been altered. Some have been removed from the data in colder regions to help skew the data to make it look like the whole earth is warming. Again, you are drinking the Kool-Aid!! "but CO2 is UNDOUBTEDLY increasing the temperature..." Again, there is no proof that CO2 is the cause of temperature increases, if we even have increases. "The trend line is clear, steady rising temperatures." That would make sense, since every single "old earth" scientist believes we are coming out of an ice age. One thing people fail to recognize is if CO2 in the atmosphere prevents the sun's energy from escaping (warming) it should also prevent the sun's energy from penetrating (cooling). Here are the REAL FACTS. (1) The earth may or may not be warming, as data points have been removed to purposely skew the observations. (2) Plants are starving for CO2, and the limiting factor in photosynthesis and plant growth is not enough CO2. Plants remove CO2 from the atmosphere. If Democrats really wanted to stop increases in CO2, why do they make it impossible for Californians to grow grass? ZERO-SCAPING IS BAD !!! (3) Concrete production creates far more CO2 than an entire army of tanks. Why does no one ask that we go back to dirt roads? (4) The only sea level rise we have seen over the last 100 years can EASILY be explained by the billions of tons of soil being eroded from land into the oceans by natural processes. Illustration -- if you fill a bathtub with water, then dump some sand in it, the water level will rise. (5) eh, I'm bored. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid. Think for yourself and truly analyze what's being said. Look at only the facts, and no the fiction.
@greenscore5884
@greenscore5884 9 лет назад
Since this talk, the arctic ice maximum collapsed this year and was recorded on feb 25. It was also the smallest ice sheet in recorded history. nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2015/04/a-double-dip/
@jpuckett5580
@jpuckett5580 6 лет назад
Just like Al Gore, you were TOTALLY WRONG. Since that comment, ice levels hit a record high. HAHAHA.
@simonruszczak5563
@simonruszczak5563 6 лет назад
June 2018, Arctic ice has increased back to the 2005 level.
@willian.direction6740
@willian.direction6740 5 лет назад
What happened in the end I went to sleep are all the polar bears growing flippers.
@torrace12
@torrace12 5 лет назад
haha i like your kind of humor mate
@deanlarson2375
@deanlarson2375 5 лет назад
Will: 8,000 polar bears in 1950.....30,000 now. (time to start thinning the herd---don't tell GreenPeace!!)
@torrace12
@torrace12 5 лет назад
@@deanlarson2375 id love to hunt some white bear...my grandfather hunted a grizzly in Yellowstone park, still have a pillow made of the fur, the rest got eaten by mice.
@fliporhold
@fliporhold 5 лет назад
Arctic ice coverage is at or near all time highs...
@arnehofoss9109
@arnehofoss9109 5 лет назад
Yes it is, by 2019! So it took 4 years from 2015. Also Polar bear population is bigger than ever.
@brianwalrod2253
@brianwalrod2253 5 лет назад
Also the Ozone layer is 20 years from being back to where it used to be, as the earth heals itself !
@torrace12
@torrace12 5 лет назад
yes heard, i expected that to happen, they seem to think that planet earth is a hundred years old i know there is old cycles
@VFN556
@VFN556 2 года назад
This TED talk occurred 7 years ago. Conditions in the world and the arctic are not the same. Watch another RU-vid lecture by another scientist Dr. Patrick Moore called Climate Realism where he talks about what was more current in the Arctic a year ago.
@briankane6547
@briankane6547 4 года назад
Odd that a blanket on top stops ice forming on the bottom of the ice?
@megret1808
@megret1808 5 лет назад
I’d like to see a similar dissertation for Antarctica. I’m reading that though the sea ice there may be thinning the terrestrial ice is growing. My question is what effect this imbalance in weight distribution will have on the planet as a whole. He doesn’t mention the magnetic pole migration which appears to be speeding up and racing toward Siberia. A pole shift seems to be in progress. The earth’s EMF plays a big part in changing weather patterns as well. A grand solar minimum has also begun reducing the amount of energy reaching the earth leading to cooler temperatures as well as causing an increase in both volcanic and tectonic activity. CO2 concentrations is just one part of a very complex system
@megret1808
@megret1808 5 лет назад
Immanuel Velikovsky had some interesting and scary things to say about crustal shifts which could occur as a result of a weight imbalance. Additionally, this presentation makes no mention of the now rapid migration of the magnetic North Pole. Changes are afoot
@jimtwisted1984
@jimtwisted1984 5 лет назад
yea too bad the pictures didnt accompany the description rather frustrating .Interesting talk though
@highrevs6110
@highrevs6110 5 лет назад
Agreed, missed the photographic half of the presentation.
@johnnieo66
@johnnieo66 5 лет назад
Nothing like an audio version of a potentially visual presentation, but then most TED talks are like this , aren't they? Oh David, BTW ,CO2 follows climate differential it does not create it.
@davidjaglin5507
@davidjaglin5507 5 лет назад
johnnieo66 CO2 can follow climate diffs but it also can create climate diffs. In the case of CO2 follows climate diff, it boosts it if it is a positive diff.
@carloammann6127
@carloammann6127 4 года назад
@@davidjaglin5507 And I suppose this is science right?
@davidjaglin5507
@davidjaglin5507 4 года назад
Carlo Ammann Not sure what you mean. Yes, with science we can predict and calculate the changes in the earth’s orbit and tilt. We can also calculate the forcing from greenhouse gases.
@donaldmorton8404
@donaldmorton8404 4 года назад
@@davidjaglin5507 Moisture in the atmosphere is the biggest cause of the greenhouse effect Not CO2, this is just another scare mongering story, more polar bears than ever, just a tax ploy
@davidjaglin5507
@davidjaglin5507 4 года назад
Donald Morton You should look into the carbon and water cycles. Increased CO2 increases atm temp which makes the atm hold more moisture....which increases atm temp....
@patersjy
@patersjy 7 лет назад
Very good talk. Thank you David Barber.
@piehound
@piehound 5 лет назад
AH science !!!! Luv science.
@JohnSmith-my6jq
@JohnSmith-my6jq 6 лет назад
Development in the artic? I thought that wasn't allowed...
@lawrencebeck4777
@lawrencebeck4777 5 лет назад
Note that he added the caveat: "developed sustainably".. as if oil drilling is sustainable! How sick is that! Note also that "ice extent" is calculated as 15% coverage. So in spite of 85% having no ice, they still call it covered by ice if there's 15% coverge.
@robertbeniston
@robertbeniston 5 лет назад
can we see the screen please. we do not need to see the man but if he is talking about the screen we need to see it.
@MrThenry1988
@MrThenry1988 5 лет назад
Imagine I can grow oranges in Michigan.
@reuireuiop0
@reuireuiop0 3 года назад
Imagine no more wheat can be grown in the mid West
@patrobbromccreanor820
@patrobbromccreanor820 5 лет назад
30 April 2019 , hows about a up date now the planets heading into a mini ice age with the grand solar minimum.
@Elite7555
@Elite7555 5 лет назад
Right...
@Endorfen2011
@Endorfen2011 4 года назад
I also question the idea of trying to put crews on the ice after the longest day of the year. After the warmest months of the year this man claims to be unable to set-up on the ice during August and September. Trying to setup after the spring thaw and the hot summer sounds like a brilliant plan from the (smart) people calling themselves scientists. Why do I have more questions from this video than answers? And yes, I wonder like some others why many of the slides are seemingly not shown.
@Mcfreddo
@Mcfreddo 3 года назад
Summer Artic ice used to be thick and full- so what don't you understand. Now it's like it is as you describe- so what's the problem?
@Philippositivity
@Philippositivity 5 лет назад
His Arctic sea breaker is one of the reasons.
@BarryDennis
@BarryDennis 5 лет назад
It's 2019, 4 and 1/2 years since this was made. the ice on our north and south is growing. And, if it is too melt it would not be the first and it wont be the last. Polar bear population has increased since the recording of this.
@swesso
@swesso 5 лет назад
site your sources please
@IcelanderUSer
@IcelanderUSer 5 лет назад
Not true.
@angrytedtalks
@angrytedtalks 5 лет назад
He is right about the south pole and polar bears. The last three years have seen a drop in temperature which is due to passing the grand solar maximum; this trend should continue until about 2044. It will be a few years before we see a definite reforming of the Northern ice sheets due to natural fluctuations.
@nevillebuck9235
@nevillebuck9235 5 лет назад
Greetings, Very easy to search the massive Jakobshaun Glacier in Greenland, because of it`s scientific importance it is referred to as "The Canary in the Coal Mine" of Glaciers and was receding at the alarming rate of 1.8 miles per year and a reduction in depth of 130 feet per annum --- HAS STOPPED and is now INCREASING at the same rate as it was receding over the last 2 years.This video is 4 1/2 years old and there have been massive freezing events in the past 3 years in Northern Europe and Greenland. In 19 zones in the arctic the number of polar bears recorded has increased by over 8,000 in ten years, i am pleased to report. Kindest Regards.
@BarryDennis
@BarryDennis 5 лет назад
@@nevillebuck9235 Yes, exactly, thanks for this!
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 5 лет назад
Global Warming • they want your money
@geoffreykent3051
@geoffreykent3051 5 лет назад
I get paid to study the Arctic. Enough said except who's paying you? Now it's 2019 and the ice has been the thickest in 10 years.
@torrace12
@torrace12 5 лет назад
haha, they probably thought they where going to get away with that fact in 2015 since back then most meida coverge was mocking all non mainstream(=political/commercial) views
@pas9ify
@pas9ify 6 лет назад
Sustainably develop the oil and gas under the Arctic? Is he kidding? Up until then it was a pretty decent presentation.
@RosyOutlook2
@RosyOutlook2 6 лет назад
You clearly think the UN climate change and Sustainable Development aka Agenda2030 is about about preserving the enviorment it's not, it about controlling all resources and depopulation. The weather and climate are engineered and have been for 7 decades.
@pulmo1
@pulmo1 5 лет назад
pas9ify what’s wrong with exploiting our resources for the betterment of mankind?
@hfactor6429
@hfactor6429 5 лет назад
@@RosyOutlook2 read my comment above.......I think I have the right answer to this "climate problem"!!
@hfactor6429
@hfactor6429 5 лет назад
@@pulmo1 HAHAHA.......youre funny I bet you believe boxcutters and pressure cooker bombs too!!
@auxtian
@auxtian 5 лет назад
So how come ships that went there had to be rescued by BIG ice breakers
@mypetcrow9873
@mypetcrow9873 5 лет назад
YOUR WILLFUL STUPIDITY IS NO LONGER DEFENSIBLE.
@YourEyeColours
@YourEyeColours 5 лет назад
@@mypetcrow9873 Ever felt the effects of being brainwashed into panic? I bet you think that Greta Thunberg is an organic phenomenon. Try Searching ; The manufacturing of Greta Thunberg...
@torrace12
@torrace12 5 лет назад
@@YourEyeColours this text is very intriguing.
@dnickaroo3574
@dnickaroo3574 5 лет назад
It is only in recent years that ships could traverse the NW Passage at all. It is now turning into a regular trade route. This shows just how much the Arctic Ice has melted.
@aylbdrmadison1051
@aylbdrmadison1051 5 лет назад
@Christian Raith : Well obviously that the ships that are there happen to be BIG icebreakers should tell you that something is wrong since they are not needed as much all of a sudden. So yea, your willful stupidity is not defensible.
@maxwellmoore5973
@maxwellmoore5973 5 лет назад
it's obvious to just about everybody, climate change is real, but human kind will adapt, and survive .
@randallsemrau7845
@randallsemrau7845 5 лет назад
Crop yields are making significant gains, as a result of additional atmospheric CO2.
@michaeldeierhoi4096
@michaeldeierhoi4096 5 лет назад
@@randallsemrau7845 Whatever yield may be gained by an increased CO2 level will be more then wiped out by the increased frequency in heat waves, drought and flood. But of course you are more into misinformation then providing the whole story aren't you??
@tyronekim3506
@tyronekim3506 2 года назад
This is the only guy that didn't sound like an activist on climate change.
@tracydavison4181
@tracydavison4181 5 лет назад
thank you David. I liked your presentation and you!
@MrAeneas
@MrAeneas 7 лет назад
Gonna be amazing what happens when they blow it and cover vast areas of the arctic with oil spills.
@jeffgold3091
@jeffgold3091 3 года назад
and yet nobody says a peep about Norways drilling in the arctic because they are so "green ".
@freeandcriticalthinker4431
@freeandcriticalthinker4431 5 лет назад
Why was data from Antarctic not included as the Arctic?
@jrdgagnon
@jrdgagnon 5 лет назад
Free and Critical Thinker because he is an Arctic scientist
@ceesboog
@ceesboog 5 лет назад
a picture/vid says more then 1000 words
@nathanielschroeder1321
@nathanielschroeder1321 5 лет назад
Great speaker. 2014 tho.
@babayagayagababa232
@babayagayagababa232 4 года назад
Why do Inuits need a new word for "sunburn"? Is the sun hotter?
@DavidBrown-cp2vm
@DavidBrown-cp2vm 5 лет назад
He mentioned the Mediӕval Warm Period. That's a "tenner" in the Gulags !!
@Serf_dumb
@Serf_dumb 4 года назад
Ever wonder why Dr Barber and his ilk only focus on the Arctic while never mentioning the other polar region aka the Antarctic?? It's because ice has been increasing in that region which not so conveniently contradicts the narrative.
@m123456r1
@m123456r1 5 лет назад
terrible camera work. never saw the slide pictures.
@michaeldeierhoi4096
@michaeldeierhoi4096 5 лет назад
The slide pictures were shown frequently though not all were shown which was the fault of editor in putting this together. You alsolutist statement indicates you probably slept through most of it!!
@sailboinz1
@sailboinz1 5 лет назад
The ice is back !
@paulreader1777
@paulreader1777 5 лет назад
The long term effect is for it to shrink - watch out before you get your feet wet where you didn't expect it.
@Richardguy9
@Richardguy9 5 лет назад
Sea Ice does not make sea level rise. Ice is frozen water so when ice melts the sea level does not rise. If you doubt that simple example try the experiment for yourself in your own kitchen. Fill a jug with water and ice and mark the water level on the side of the Jug, Let the jug sit until th eice melts and the water level will be at the same mark as before. So all the talk and talk is baseless it is really meant to mislead you to panic and somebody is making money so follow the money?
@timhallas4275
@timhallas4275 5 лет назад
Thank you for not ringing the panic bell.
@smallbluemachine
@smallbluemachine 5 лет назад
That’s no way to raise research funding.
@wsght8417
@wsght8417 2 года назад
Mr. Barber R.I.P.
@rockers7889
@rockers7889 5 лет назад
No pay if there's ice, I got it now Sumpter, Tullonius
@izzzzzz6
@izzzzzz6 3 года назад
So the great flood lasted thousands of years and this is where the story comes from.?!?!... But to get even more out there i wonder if people were forced to flee to Antartica but could one even live there even if most of it's ice melted? I suppose they could live on fish and seaweed to start with. I guess we will see once the ice melts. I'm not sure about the upper estimate of sea rising levels due to surface area, the meniscus effect, loss of hydrogen out of the atmosphere (from the sea water) and then there is the possibility of dredging also there is the amount of oil we pumped out and replaced with sea water. Not to mention the smaller volume melted water takes up over frozen water and could there possibly also be compression of water at great depths compressed further by the extra water above? I know water doesn't compress much but at such great depths the pressure is immense.
@yourstruely9896
@yourstruely9896 Год назад
so again its changing over1400 years and they have no clue
@gregorylibby1770
@gregorylibby1770 5 лет назад
SHOW THE SLIDES!
@reference2me
@reference2me 7 лет назад
"rotten ice" ... sounds like Mother nature is cleaning house ...
@RosyOutlook2
@RosyOutlook2 6 лет назад
No the elite are.
@Meekseek
@Meekseek 6 лет назад
Mother Nature yea sure try psychopathic men using weather and climate modification.
@myra7273
@myra7273 5 лет назад
There is no such thing as a Mother Earth. There are only actions, and reactions. What is happening now are the results of past and current actions.
@SKRAPNOID
@SKRAPNOID 5 лет назад
NOW you are on the right parallel! Nobody mentions the HAARP machines and how many of them have "sprouted" everywhere! And while we're here, how about that LHC? Parallels? haha
@SKRAPNOID
@SKRAPNOID 5 лет назад
myra7273 you understand all you know, and thats nice.... open your mind, you could be a figment of someones imagination. If you think you KNOW otherwise, well..... think again
@michaelmcneil4168
@michaelmcneil4168 7 лет назад
Typical of educational establishment is that you never get a good presentation.
@accessaryman
@accessaryman 5 лет назад
hows this for the hypothetical, our planet goes through cycles, ice ages and warm periods, history shows that animal and plant life has and always adapted to there environments, I hypothesis that our plant is only part way through its cycle, it will get naturally warmer, plants and animals will adapt, then the planet will drop into another ice age and start the cycle over again, those which adapt will be the survivors for the next cycle, will human be in that new mix, its up to us to adapt to our ever changing environment. regards owen
@jamespeden9472
@jamespeden9472 5 лет назад
Valid point, granted. However, this is the first time, that we know of, where the approaching changes are exacerbated by human involvement. With the speeding up of the natural processes there may be less time for adaption in the animal kingdom, and desertification of wide swaths of productive, habitable lands is guaranteed. So, while climate change IS a constant factor in the evolution of our planet, such rapidity is not.
@accessaryman
@accessaryman 5 лет назад
If you look at the history it always speeds up due to over population, its the planet's way of keeping an equalibrium, adapt, or go extinct. There isnt a choice, only a decision. :)
@jamespeden9472
@jamespeden9472 5 лет назад
@@accessaryman So you are a believer in prior advanced civilizations, I must admit to the possibility, but we have no way of knowing what part, if an, they may have played in climate change. Reliable information does not go much beyond the last ice age, and it is doubtful that that the peoples of that time played any measurable role there. I find it funny that you mention overpopulation, as THAT is a real misconception. Every human alive today could live in the American state of Texas, albeit Manhattan style. There is no shortage of farm land, and if there were then hydroponics would be a ready solution. I do accept that global warming poses no threat to humanity as a whole, I only point out that there will be hardships for large portions of us. And, since wealth is the measure of worth, it is sure that the best among us will be the ones who suffer under them.
@accessaryman
@accessaryman 5 лет назад
@@jamespeden9472 ive looked and research to what exstent the % is that humans contribute to the climate, to date i haven't found or had replies from scientists who participate in this science, as to what percentage it is. As to having the world population in one state, i wouldnt want to live there, firstly sickness and diseases would be rampent, let alone crime. 7.5 billion, wow sounds like a high rise slum. That 7.5 billion sharing 695,662 km2, imagine the sewage system, hate the thought, Anyway, my point is we need to adapt, our way of living, to our changing planet be ready, for what history has taught us, But will we, i dont belive we will. Regards owen
@andrewamundrud800
@andrewamundrud800 5 лет назад
Just had an advertisement for 5G while watching this video ;) LOL
@mysticdavestarotmachinesho5093
I took me two minutes to realize this was from 2015. In the last four years the Arctic sea ice has increased considerably.
@torrace12
@torrace12 5 лет назад
HAHA
@Patrick_Ross
@Patrick_Ross 2 года назад
The overall trend is not only declining extent but declining thickness as well.
@briankane6547
@briankane6547 4 года назад
NICE comment John; I just came to say exactly the SAME THING.
@idadho
@idadho 5 лет назад
The valid information in this TEDx is directly proportional to the time spent looking at the screen. It would be great if he HONESTLY explained all the assumptions they use as foundations to their claims.
@AlbertGuilmont
@AlbertGuilmont 4 года назад
I guess that most the graphs and other illustrations are copyrighted...
@davidrapalyea7727
@davidrapalyea7727 6 лет назад
Environmental hysterics killed nuclear and then got fracked.
@blackopal3138
@blackopal3138 5 лет назад
If Mr. Barber could talk to you today, June 27, 2019, I believe he would say something like, 'We found surprises on top of our surprises. It's too late for the Polar Bears. Save yourself, get North and high.(elevation not weed)...... (but maybe bring some weed.... plus! bonus to the high, Canadians accept it as currency:) peace
@hadiki1234
@hadiki1234 6 лет назад
Wish he would move so we could focus more on the graphics...……………..
@donehogua9713
@donehogua9713 5 лет назад
he's standing there on purpose. This is produced by professionals.
@laomark9583
@laomark9583 7 лет назад
very good presntation, thanks!
@SonicPhonic
@SonicPhonic 6 лет назад
Great informative, up-beat presentation. I love the part when he says that the Earth did not come with a "manual". So we have to trust our scientists and listen. Unfortunately there are a lot of people who troll on RU-vid for big oil. I just don't get it-how they can be so unconscionable?
@SteveDondley
@SteveDondley 5 лет назад
What, you mean the Bible doesn't count as a manual? :)
@vmitchinson
@vmitchinson 5 лет назад
The Bible is a plarized collection of fiction originally written by dehydrated desert dwellers recording their hullusanations.
@jean-marclamothe8859
@jean-marclamothe8859 5 лет назад
Good for you if you want to believe people who got it wrong since 25 years my friend! There's science and there's scientist, you have to do the difference...
@yourstruely9896
@yourstruely9896 Год назад
co.2 is minor thing water vapour is much more important
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