Being a vintage collector I have always been impressed by SGC grading. Very consistent compared to PSA and PSA I believe will get even worse with so many new inexperienced graders. I do not buy the holder , I buy the card and I have PSA, SGC and Beckett but must say vintage cards look great in the SGC holder.
SGC needs some more respect by hobbyists as other grading companies continue to gauge collectors. SGC is clean and consistent. The market will catch on soon. SGC 💯👍
The PSA shutdown was an opportunity for companies like CSG and SGC to get a lot of graded cards into the market. The more they do, the better they’ll do longer term. I’ve noticed many more CSG and SGC slabs on eBay and at the card shows here in Southern California. I’d keep the $25-30 card grading and hire/develop more graders to expand the card grading business if I were either CSG or SGC.
I have been doing this for awhile buying SGC 10s at a discount, SGC Mark's just as hard or harder...like the TUXEDO look..just keep them coming, will hold for a while.
@@pizzaguy2959 I have popped sgc cards and had super results with psa , some psa 9’s are just so off center I’m scared to send them to bgs or sgc there is no way 70/30 will get a sgc 9
PSA is more Popular as far as buying and selling. Grade wise they are about the same hit or miss. $200 for a PSA grade and $150 for Beckett grade is the only difference with grading and sports companies. About $30 for SGC $25 CGC . That’s where things change but if you have a really nice card I would definitely send it to PSA but a grade 10 is a grade 10 at the end of the day . For personal collection I would prefer a PSA 10 over anything but wouldn’t complain with a grade 10 of another company if I love the card .
Great Video! I agree, if flipping Psa brings more money. I own many Sgc, they are tough on grading! Like you said if holding, sgc 10 is a very nice buy for the price point. I’d like to see some high end flippers who might crack Sgc 10 and crossover to Psa to see what they get back.
I tend to use psa 9 prices as a barometer for the value level of bgs 9.5s and sgc 10s. When that price gap gets close is when my interest goes up on those secondary slabs. But the "SGC is undervalued" drum has been beating for a while now with little change in actual comp ratios to psa. So I dont exactly believe that they will significantly close the gap. But anything is possible and if you like the look of sgc slabs and arent overly focused on resale value then I do think it's a solid way to build a cost effective collection.
Great video Dustin. Ive graded a ton of cards with all companies, in my experience an SGC 10 is more difficult to attain than a PSA 10. Just based on my experience.
I don't respect PSA as a company any longer. They shot themselves in the foot and made so many terrible business moves .Plus the PSA slab is sooooo outdated and to me looks crappy and cheap. Its 2021 and that's the best you can do? SGC has the best looking slab, they are fast with getting cards back and they now have 100 percent of my future business.
I personally like PSA, and like a majority people have lot of PSA in collections. A lot of new collectors in the past 3 years entering the hobby may not know SGC has been around for 23 years and always played 2nd place to PSA. With the initial covid shut down and now the backlog shutdown still in process, it does not give me much hope that SGC will ever surpass them or gain ground. A lot of videos trying to draw a comparison, but without the gem rate/date of the other companies, it will be hard to judge but fun to speculate. To each their own, collect what you like and have fun. ✌🏼
It’s as simple as this. Psa allows 60/40 centering. Psa 10s won’t cross as well to others as a company like sgc would. Buy any sgc or csg cards you can. Let the people who own psa cards lose their butt
Confused. Vintage PSA and SGC have the same spread on sales price. Buying sgc simply means worth less in future, which is ok with me and some others. I think it narrows some in the future since PSA prices will increase and end the days of a set registry and set collectors.
Seems like the move for people with deep pockets is buy big time cards graded SGC 10, crack and send to PSA. When you get the card for thousands less, you can pay the $300 PSA grading fee and still come out way ahead.
I have no problem with SGC slabs in my collection. And in most cases they are cheaper than the same card in a PSA slab. Great comparison video.....thanks for sharing.
Hey so good to see your consistent content … can’t wait for the season and to continue submitting with SGC. Marvel cards just look so incredible in the tux
Great video! I’ve never submitted to PSA. Way to expensive for me at this moment. I’ve only done SGC and HGA. Loves their slabs. If I’m going for a quick flip, it’s those two companies. Even though I may not get the return, I’m out $20-$35/ card to grade. Can sell 3-5 Lukas in the time I get back a sub from PSA possibly. I’ve never sold any Lukas, just an example for me. I know PSA has the name and the recognized label, but I know SGC and HGA grades tough and I know those cards earned grades from what I’m seeing from PSA. Thanks for sharing!! God bless!!
Thanks for the content Dustin. I am starting to get more and more convinced that SGC catches up to PSA in terms of populairity and slabbed value. SGC’s grade 10 might be a tougher grade than PSA. The tech that SGC uses to determine card surfaces is the same as what forensic crime labs use to determine document forgeries. I firmly believe that SGC grading is legit. The market is just not yet convinced as such. My opinion about SGC has changed drastically since the beginning of 2021. I have several cards (vintage to ultra modern) waiting to grade. Original plan was to wait it out with PSA, but SGC is looking more and more intriguing by the day. Staying patient. The sucky part of this is that SGC appears to be having success at the $30 price point for grading. Guess that we will never see $12-$15 grading costs ever again. I agree with you. Keeping an open mind is key.
SGC is NOT a tougher grader than PSA. I have repeatedly sent cards to SGC that I weeded out of my PSA pile as potential PSA 8s or 9s that were graded SGC 9.5s or 10s. They are harder on centering, that is true. So you won't hit an SGC 10 with a poorly centered card, which does happen at PSA. But if you have ANY type of noticeable surface or corner issue, PSA is rarely going to give a 10. Whereas at SGC, as long as your card is centered, you can get 9.5s and 10s with flaws that would lower the grade more at PSA. It depends on what you value in your sub-grades, but I'll take a slightly off center card with a perfect surface and corners rather than the opposite. And the market seems to agree.
I've seen PSA 10 cards with a white dot on edges while the sgc 10s I've come across have looked perfect or just as good as PSA. Time will tell what the market notices
it's just customer confidence, plus alot of ppl would never consider cracking bcus of possible damage for someone who can authenticate/crack themselves, def a good opportunity tho
The gap between them & PSA is widening by the day, and now HGA has flown by SGC in value, to the point of a lotta HGA 9.5s being as valuable as SGC 10s. I sub with all 3 for my group, I don't discriminate, but SGC is absolutely the least desirable, & basically invisible at shows, too. I noticed that almost immediately when I began putting SGC slabs in my showcases.
@@GemRippers Personally I'd take a perfect looking sgc card than a PSA card with off centering and whitening on the edges, I'll let PSA lovers take the actual physically inferior cards. I believe the market will eventually realize it's better to buy a perfect card than a different slab
You need to do a show, showing the 9.5 BGS slabs compare to the 9.5 SGC slabs. There will be a even bigger discrepancy between the two. I have sold several SGC 9.5 KOBE’S for dirt cheap. I don’t know if people are just wanting perfect 10 but 9.5 is an awesome card. On a avg Kobe rookie no matter what brand it is, sells around $129.00 but a 9.5 in a bgs slab goes for 5 times has much.
The reason for the bigger discrepancy in prices is because they're NOT the same grade. Don't get caught up in both being a 9.5. One(SGC) is Mint + and the other (BGS) is Gem Mint, so not an apples to apples comparison.
It’s good and fair to compare the graded card prices of those 2 companies PSA and SGC, only if the card prices are within a few weeks or a month time period. This is because sports card prices are very volatile, or they go up and down in a few weeks or months time frame. This is very true during the crazy months of Jan. to March this year when the prices went to the stratosphere, and then went down one to two months later. It has started to go up again lately. Other comparisons I’ve seen on youtube are showing that SGC graded card prices are about 10 to 30% lower than PSA graded card prices within a month or less time period. .
I believe PSA 10 cards will be on the rise in the coming months. It appears PSA is tightening up grading on a PSA 10. The confusion will be weather the player is hot or the grade
What sets PSA apart is the stacked pop report. All the but players are invested I. Collectors universe and it shows in the pop report. That being said. Other slabs dont stack with PSA slabs and as a result reasabbing to PSA would be unreasonable
You don't need CL or Market Movers to see the difference between the way over priced psa 10s and sgc 10 and bgs 9.5. As a collector I know what I've been buying.
Love SGC! Might be only 1 who loves their slabs, hold cards nicely! Than I also like PSA, CGC, SGC 👍 brecket...I'll get if a good deal, but don't send any out to them, hate there cases and writing on top!
$200 and 11 months ave wait time vs $30 to grade a card and around two months wait time....do the math. SGC cards are going up and are becoming more accepted in the market.
If you go with the $200 level you aren’t waiting 11 months average there has been a month or less. You can also submit cards valued up to $2499 at this level so you would want to only send high dollar cards. SGC at this level increases to $85 a card.
@@MANCAVE-xz1bp You stated $200 and 11 months wait time avg. this is not true at the $200 level. For regular, economy and quarterly specials yes 11 months is the wait but not at express. PSA service level on express is about a month compared to the $85 service and 2 month wait at this level. If you are sending in higher dollar cards you will easily make up the $115 difference with a PSA 10 over a SGC 10 and get them back a month faster. For higher end cards, it still makes sense to send to PSA. Like you said do the math.
i have seen numerous instances where the card board will start to leach something from the black insert and they will stick together. not common, but happens. sgc used to be my favorite 10-12 years ago, they used to be far better. they should have stayed doing their thing instead of changing the grading scale.
I think the price Gap between SGC & PSA only exist in modern cards. I buy all slab brands as I buy the best looking card for the best price. With that being said cards from 60’s on back SGC prices are strong. I own a lot of PSA vintage cards because I can get them for less then SGC prices. But the overall price gap in modern SGC 10’s & PSA’s 10’s is just plain stupidity. SGC provides a superior grading service.
Last year I did that with cards in the $100 to $300 range. SGC 9.5 and 10, most of the time came back a PSA 10. so, there was some $$$ to be made. Now with PSA grading costing much more. I am going to sell most of my cards , and buy 2 or 3 SGC 10's on cards, where the spread between SGC and PSA is at least $1,500. I am hoping to average a profit of $1,000+ a card. i would just keep rolling the $$$ over, till i can do maybe 10 at a time. Anyone have experience doing this , or have any tips???
@@ChowDownDetroit obviously grading is going to vary card by card, across companies. The point I was trying to make is that PSA is not necessarily a tougher grade than SGC
I see so much content on SGC and PSA, but how do you feel about HGA? When they first started there was a lot of hype but it has really died down. I like the way the slabs look and feel and I believe they are a tough grader. I rarely see any 10's and I see so many PSA 10's. I understand there are many more PSA graded cards out there but what are your thoughts? I would appreciate any and all feedback. Thanks!
I hear you Dustin about viewing a graded card which doesn't look as good as the grade but that point is quite arbitrary & your opinion is anecdotal. What matters are the PSA grading & the Pop report. I think these days collectors/investors are buying based on those criteria & what they have been conditioned to think about PSA and the "others".
Spot on. No grading company is the above all end all. Imo it's about how much are you willing to pay for a card in a certain slab. Some cards look better in certain slabs especially when you talk about the big 4 that has grading experience. But that's my opinion. Also I think grading equations (ie BGS 9.5 = PSA 10) are dumb. Each grading company has their own standards.
I totally agree. SGC is the better bargain... on most cards, for example... i'd rather owned two SGC Gem Mint 10's of the 2003 Topps Chrome LeBron James #111 than just 1 PSA 10. All day I will buy SGC.... PSA is soo over-rated, it's not even funny.... Pumping gas at Chevron, Mobile or Shell doesn't make a difference for me... All cards are made by the same company, whether it is FLEER, Upper Deck, Panini, Hoops, Topps....
I mentioned the same in the vid about the dates on a couple of the cards. Just one set of data points as an example. Can apply the overall idea to any card
@@TheSportsCardDad Maybe for a better apples to apples comparison in the future , you can compare the PSA price closest to the SGC sold date, instead of using the latest PSA price?
@@georgesya9951 maybe, but the reality is data can be run a zillion different ways. Not going to make everyone happy all the time, but the crux of the vid is to show generally across the board with most cards that I've seen, SGC 10's are less expensive than PSA 10's
So first off - The beard is great. LOL Second, Blades of Steel was AMAZING. The Fight Sequence was one of the great part of early NES stuff. I don't have a preference with grading, but I definitely see the difference in price as an interesting bit of info.
Sgc grades vintage extremely accurate I send to every legitimate grading company and there is no other company really comparable for vintage. For ultra modern CSG and BGS are the best for grading accuracy if your judging the company’s grading ability. For resale PSA makes sense on high end ultra modern cards but they have random people slapping grades on cards with no consistency and they have always been like that maybe even worse 20 years ago they were a joke in the hobby:
That myth about SGC being a tougher grade than PSA is exactly that, a myth. Those days are over, if they ever were there. Myself and MANY who I've talked to have noticed that they are dishing out 9.5-10s basically on ALL modern. I personally started grading with them for my group in May and it's been a joke how many gems we've gotten. I certainly am not complaining by any means, but it's very noticeable. Now, I just hope I didn't jinx the sub I'm picking up tmw! lol But seriously tho, doesn't it make sense for them to start gemmin more while PSA is "down"?! Conspiracy theory or not, they are the easiest grader outta the 4 & the lease valuable by far now. Great stuff as always PFD!
lol yes the grading debate is endless. Thanks to the objectivity of grading, there will always be examples of 'tougher grades' and 'more lenient grades' etc. Thanks for your insights!
I love all the twits in here saying they know SGC grading standards, like they work there. I have seen way too many PSA 10s that wouldn't get an SGC 8.
No matter how much inconsistency PSA shows, the amount of dick-riding fanboys who will come out in droves to defend them is astonishing. PSA was first, and their registry is untouchable. Their pop reports mean absolutely nothing for the most part, but no matter what PSA is king because collectors promote it that way. As long as other channels keep reiterating that, and saying "PSA 10 is the baseline", it's going to stay true. People talk about eye appeal, but they don't dare want to be caught with their pants down holding a beautiful PSA 8, that is probably only an 8 because the grader had a bad day or was a new grader scared to give something a 10 and get clowned in QC1/2. WIth Nat Turner's group owning Goldin too, it won't take long before they slowly remove the selling of all other graded cards, included pre-war SGC graded stuff from their high-end auctions. SGC will forever be marked as 3rd place until key people in the hobby make a push for it to be more. Period
The problem with SGC is their holder. It is a frickin brick, feels so heacy and clunky and uncomfortable in your hands compared to a psa slab and even a bgs slab. I used to think bgs was clunky, then i started submitting to sgc and got their slabs in hand and was like WTF?? The tux is fine, the label is fine but the holder has got to go !
@@jimmason2080 no i like to hold my slabs in hand and carry them comfortably in my case. I dont like to lug around family sized picture portraits like you do. You’re the type of guy who’s stuck in the 90’s using those brick cell phones
@@jimmason2080 its hilarious how u sgc fan boys are so sensitive. I compliment the label, the look but say they need to change the slab if they want to compete with psa, and u get all offended and wanna cancel my comments. 🤣🤣🤣
