Shadow of the Erdtree Bosses Look Terrifying 

As we say in the video, we don't think it's Godwyn either. Obviously, this character has something to do with Godwyn 👍

The DLC looks like it will be more horror based than the main game. This thing looks scary as hell

That could be one of the Omen inside the Lion Dancer boss. Maybe thats why it looks contorted

Since the omen horns are a mark of the Crucible Period, & a lot of the characters we’ve seen have horns & other omenlike features, I think it makes sense that the Crucible Period ended with the separation of the Land of Shadows from The Lands Between, & thus its inhabitants have been essentially stuck in the old culture

That bruise on the lower back is quite similar to where Marika had the spear in her body.

Dawg imagine getting isekaid and that's the first thing u run into lml

We have seen his face in the cinematic trailer when his eyes roll back

With how Godwyns death roots appearing even in Farum Azula it isn’t a stretch that it would pop up in the land of shadows.

Half of me thinks its related to Godwyn, the other half thinks Morgott and Mohg have another brother Edit: Now that I think about it, having Godwyns soul be slain by the Black Knives, and possibly being in the Land of Shadow is crazy!

Its not Godwyn

The hole is at the same place where marika got impaled on the crucifix

Godwyn is brother to 2 of the most powerful Omen... What if he had some omen stuff going on that we haven't yet learned about?

Okay, but I don't think Fia intended to have an actual child. She gestated a mending rune to supplant the current order with a new order under the Prince of Death

This is not Godwyn. I predict this boss is the 2nd form of the Lion Dancer Boss which we saw in the trailer for Shadow of the Erdtree. In said trailer we see the Lion Dancer attack the protagonist with Deathroot attacks while this boss has clear connections to Godwyn as well due to the pose of his arms. Also the feet that can be seen under the Lion costume are identical to these and the Lion mask has Omen horns as well. Plus the coat of this boss has the same color as the costume of the Lion Dancer.

This can’t be the child you watch fia conceive because her questline is not mandatory

On the contrary I think this might be Godwyn. Think about it, how come Mogh and Morgott are born omens but not Godwyn? They have the same parents. In this image it shows omen horns underneath a gold mask… Does it ring a bell? “Godwyn the Golden”, signifies Godwyn is in fact an omen but use some sort of trick to conceal it. And because the shadowland is all about uncovering Marika’s secret, I believe this is one of them

That's no ordinary bow. That's setting up a grade A prime Naruto run.

A couple of weeks later and this guy has appeared on gameplay showcase. He is basically a random boss on a random dungeon. He is just a special type of omen with a bit of death theme on it. This is maybe proof we kinda overanalyze lore in tjis games? Like the desing team does take references but the conections the community makes sometimes are like creating a 3 pages backstory out of a blush.

“Godwyn is coming for you.” Yeah he is still getting one-shot by a point blank kamehameha

its a uterus and vagina. i havent seen other people pointing this out. its so clearly shaped like a uterus

I don’t know how anyone can look at this and think it’s Godwyn

what if were gonna encounter all of the walking mausoleum demi god children in the shadow realm and thats one of them??

I genuinely believe this to be one of the unwanted demigod children of Marika and Godfrey.

Felt really good when I soloed Godwyn a few yards away from the first grace.

how do you see that hole in his abdomen and not instantly think of how marika is pierced on that same spot

I don't believe this is Godwyn. For one, the omen horns and lack of the Cursemark of Death engraved upon their back. Perhaps this is the god from the age of the Crucible? That small hole in their lower back might have been where they were impaled during crucifixion, similar to the state we find Marika herself in. Maybe that could also explain the strange posture

Looks like fallopian tubes on the sides.

Just the pose he is in remembers the pose taken by the actual Godwyn's corpse...

You guys remember the Elden Ring Cinematic trailer? Remember Godwyn having black tears come from his eyes from the death blight? Check out the black tears coming from the mask. Not only that but the arms and literal golden mask kind of tells us who it is.

It matches the candle holding enemies with omen horns, bracers, and matching clothes in the dlc trailer. Could just be a boss of that specific area.

The wound on the back of the new image... Is it's placement a candidate for same location of Marika's exit wound caused by the destined death spear in her womb? No idea how this would tie into the rest of the design/have yet to formulate any further/supporting thoughts, but asked the question/made the association between the wound on the back and the destined death spear in my head almost immediately... Maybe the bosses of the DLC will contain ubiquitous/near ubiquitous reflections of Marika within (and/or surrounding) other design elements pointing at either the stories of her more relevant demi-god children and/or as relevant/related to Marika's path to God-hood? Just spit balling.

is it hard to believe that the Land Of Shadows is home to Crucible creatures and culture. So this has to be an Omen, maybe a jester or servant hence the bow. I dont see any connection to Godwin other than position of the arms tbh.

Miyasaki fr said Elden Ring was too nice and colorful lets create some of the most f'd up and terrifying looking creatures this time.

i think it's a really just lanky and tall creature that came from the crucible

It's Miquella corrupted by Mohg!

I think that this will be a stronger common enemy in the dungeon that leads to the lion dancer boss. I also have a theory that this enemy and the lion dancer are not omens at all. But rather worship the crucible and omen kind. The enemy only has horns on its head which is covered by a mask so who’s saying the horns and hair are not also part of the mask. There are no horns anywhere else on its body. Also the lion dancer is similar with the horns seemingly being on the lion mask but not on the dancers underneath. You can make out the shape of a head covered in cloth on the lower figure if you pause at the right moment and there doesn’t seem to be any horns on his head just the lion they are puppeteering. Perhaps this is a culture that celebrates the crucible

I think this is what is below the Land Of Shadow, the abyss in which Marika discarded her ‘naught’ children/parts of herself that she coldly pruned away because they were of no benefit to the growth of the ‘tree’, and in some cases harmful to it. Her abandoned botched graft of failed scion and stunted bud, etc. The Land of Shadow is calcination, the burning down of all to black so that the cycle can begin anew. Those in the abyss are excluded even from that, so that their traits would not reappear in the next cycle. Marika was ruthless in her grafting/pruning/discarding but her veil was pierced and all of her secrets and shame will be laid bare. Her cardinal sin was disrupting the cycle for her own selfish benefit, and these are the children of her sin in an all-in-one package.

it might be somekind of prince of death apostle

Okay, i have a crazy idea for a new weapon category that may be in the game; *Boomerangs.* We have already seen what looks like a throwing dagger weapon category, which would not use consumables but rather throwing is part of the moveset, and we have also saw the mounted skeleton in a cave throwing a spinning weapon at us, which turns around and comes back to it's hand, and this guy might be holding another instance of that, a dual wielded boomerang.

Imagine Mohgs expirement was to defile the beloved emperyean into an omen like him. The hair coming out of one eye like the omen horn going into Mohgs eye, bowing similar to their brothers corpse position.

I heard it somewhere else first, but the figure's posture - with how they're holding their circle-weapons and the way their back is arched - resembles a uterus. Saw someone in your chat wonder if they could be a female omen since we haven't seen any of them yet... the uterine imagery could back that up. A Mother of all Omen, perhaps? A forgotten parallel to how Marika is the mother of all the Golden Demigods?

Anyone with elbows is going to have arms like that. I don't think it's related to Godwyn at all. I'd be happy to be wrong though. Either way I hope we get sufficient Godwyn related things.

The cloak looks like the one the old guy was wearing when he was taking the sword from his head. He was royal too. Maybe that's why the creature looks as if he's bowing

That's not a bow, that's a battle stance. One of it's stances, it's attacking from below, getting ready to slice or throw the blades.

dude in that pose and with the shakrams looks like a stalking bird, proly related to deathbirds,black weapons pale colour, lenky, smoke could make wings

Absolutely zero percent chance that’s Godwyn, and I don’t think it has anything to do with him either.

Gotta add this dude to the foot tier list

It’s the nightmare that haunts the omens dreams

Honestly i hope the dlc throws a curveball and actually gives us major godwyn lore, that would be sick

This could be Godwyn fanclub, kinda like Abyss watchers in DS3.

Godwyn was an Omen that got his features later in life. And he was the golden so they made a golden face mask to remember his face the days before getting omen-y

Oh goddamn, I did not want to read that thumbnail. He'll come for me when I'm asleep.

My take 1 : Godwyn/Mesmer could be an Emperian and this could be his other self. Take 2 : could be the twin of Mesmer/Godwyn as Marika already has 2 sets of twins and it is possibe that omen guy could be the twin of either Godwyn/Mesmer. Take 3 : Could be Godwyn if he already knew of the night of black knives and willingly died for Marika's scheme and made a scheme for himself or by miquella, to be sent to shadow realm.

Hopefully these bosses aren't too triggering and attractive for you AgtJake.

If it's not Godwyn, I don't think it's directly related to Godwyn. The posture is incredibly similar, but there's no reason his followers would be bent into that shape like he had been after death. Godwyn is arranged like he was hung up on a wall by his arms and left to dangle, and that's a very different position to what this guy is doing

I think this is Miquilla after being given Omen Blood within the cocoon. It looks reproductive organs but also similar to a butterfly with the chakrams being the wings. Its a mix between older deformed Miqulla with Omen body parts.

Chopping off the horns was a golden order practice. These enemies are from another culture who might venerate the horns and omens as a sign of a blessing from the crucible version of the erdtree. I think he is bowing before a dance/fight/dual. Don't think it's Godwyn though.

the hole in the boss' back makes me think of a Messmer's implication. Just like we speculated with Marika, He could have impaled this ancient royal figure for obscures reasons (thirst of power mainly)

Why everyone saying this thing is a boss? It’s probably just a regular enemy

The beastman of farum azula also use similar weapons as throwing weapons although it's smaller. This looks the same but bigger and more damaging.

“My back is broken, spinal”-Mike Tyson

This is, without a shadow of a doubt, not Godwyn.

Didn't the thumbnail for this video read "Godwyn is coming for you"???

I feel like this boss still invokes a feeling of death blight/those who live in death but not godwyn. Like an omen that was also killed in sould but not body, maybe from when the gloam eyed queen weilded destined death

It's an omen. Not Godwyn, the skin is grey in texture but the art has lighting to add a dramatic effect. The horns are protruding in sporadic ways. The mask seems similar to the golden tree monks with the spears. I believe these are them but with a more warped body. They were the guards of the erdtrees. They already started to grow sprouts of poisonous plants on their bodies as corruption fettered through the lands between. In a land without light from the erdtrees, maybe omens are created. As we've seen the main boss is one. And multiple characters or bosses seem to mimic omens with horns they've taken. I think the land is ravaged from war between omens and another race. This other race has taken into their culture to capture, enslave, and cut off the horns of omens to use in making masks or ceremonial outfits. They could also be doing experiments. And I think the main villain was the cause of said war. Like a snake he swayed sides until it collapsed and he took the opportunity by the throat. He sits on a throne that does not belong to him. I'm excited to find out the mysteries of SoTET

Marika is pierced threw this part of her back. Could be an aspect of hers she banished to the shadow lands. I mean the Tree has the curtains of her bedroom around it.

His weapons kinda gives me Farum Azula Beastman weapons vibe. Like it could have been made by the same blacksmith. The mask resembles minor Erdtree guardian mask imo

i love seeing people who didn’t watch the full video comment before actually seeing yours and the communities opinions,thoughts and theories 💀

Getting real Marika vibes about this one. Weapon is the same as the swirl behind her statues. We don't know if the mask covers her face or is on her head. So she might reveal herself after standing up. We have never seen Marika moving in game, only the petrified form we find the houses the Elden ring. The iconografy of the female genitalia is striking. Tarnished archeologist is going to gave fun with this one! But the arm pose is definitely striking as looking like Godwyn

Godwyn’s back looks like a “dark Elden ring” symbol idk if y’all noticed that or not yet

Great video! Love how and your chat analysed this together!

The lion dancer boss fight is going to be wild ⛈️

Hey Jake, I have a theory that I’d like you to cover in a future video. I believe the parts of dragon barrow near Gurranq’s lair is connected to farum azula. It has the same statues and the bridge is even named farum greatbridge. And also, there are some dead dragon corpses that looked suspiciously like ancient dragons. So yeah, I believe dragon arrow is somehow connected to farum azula. Could you cover this in a future video.

It has the horns like morgot and mog. Maybe one of mesmers children

I read an article that said people speculated it looks like a uterus on its shape

Elden Uterus, that Godwynussy is making act unwise.

I think I see that mask before it’s one of those guardians who guard the minor erdtrees and it looks like the guardians were corrupted by omen curse

He’s not bowing he taking the same pose the Godwyn under the tree is

I don't think it's bowing, because it's feet indicate it's moving towards the player, when you bow you hold still.

Before u increased the "brightness" (idk what it's called), I thought it was Fia giving birth to godwyn. Like he was clawing his way out of her, and thus the downward pose

I think it has huge Darkness Falls vibes if anyones seen thst horror movie. I think this boss could be a one, or one of many, failed clones of godwyn after he died. And these bastards born improperly in the shadow of the erdtree are omens which make sense

Absolutely haunting yet badass design, this DLC has me more and more hyped each day!

Honestly, I reckon it’s the hoslow brothers, the hoslow helmet that he brought up with similar details like the cracked eye belonged to one of the brothers, the creature thing tweeted could be the other brother. Idk tho

The gauntlets kinda look like the godskin apostle bracelets though that might be a stretch because to me it looks like a subtle similarity

This is OMEN MARIKA, not Godwyn. We have already seen Omen Godwyn will appear (Lion Dancer). This creature has the exact same stab wound that Marika has. It is in her crucified pose. The hair falls lower on the right side of the face. It is hunched over to conceal her boobs, which Marika proudly displays with no clothing above the waist. The chakram are Nox-esque, which fits with Marika being a Numen Eternal. Either this is Marika’s true form, which would explain why she’s got 2 nasty ass Omen kids. Or someone (maybe Mohg and/or Miquella) is making Omen copies of the Gods! Players always wanted to fight Marika…now we can!

Maybe it is not just smoke. It could also be sleep mist what surrounds this character.

is Godwyn related to Omen? i mean his other siblings are omen... so he can be. But i thought he was more related to Deathblight

Wild Guess from me and that would be, that the Thing in the Picture is Godwyn, but within the Shadow Realms due to the Fia Incident granting Godwyn a Second Life as "The Prince of Death" within the Shadow Realms, also both of the Weapons symbolize the Fact that Ranni and Godwyn died the the same time so it could stand for each Cursemark of Death one as "Rannis" and one as "Godwyns"

What about, the mask, what if its a helmet thats actually a hat and their looking at the ground right now, after they landed, and we're actually looking at the top of its head, I'm picturing a super creepy smile when they look up at us, IF they need to look up at us

Maybe this is the other godwynn under stormveil the one with a third eye

Maybe his crooked arms are a manifestation of Godwyn just like the crabs with Godwyns eyes on their back

I have a Theory that these bosses are aspects or pieces of Godwyns Soul that we need to defeat to give him a true death. Just a theory, but it’s fun to speculate. Good video! 🤙🏼

The stab wound on its back fits with the red spear that pierced Marika when she was crucified in the Erdtree.

What if thats just the physical embodiment of the crucible. Seems there are a lot of references to it maybe we fight the crucible itself idk. Could be cool

If that’s godwyn it would make sense he’s omen like his siblings. He was probably able to change his appearance so he could be his moms golden boy

Just some thoughts: So when it comes to the lion omen fight, it’s a representation of the dancing dragon, I’ve heard some speculate it’s a celebratory image of Godwyn which is why it utilizes lightning based off his lore of gaining the power of lighting from dragons and has the gold trimmed robes and long hair. So similarly if this thing is also part of that celebration of him, it would almost make sense to have the golden mask & long hair in his image “Godwyn the Golden” while also assuming his pose 🤔

Marika was impaled through the back in that spot

I belive this charecter or boss, is somehow related to the shackles, the ones made for mohg and margit, he looks like an omen as well so maybe he is in a way related to the shackles

"This is definitely, 100% relateded to ___________" Source: idk I just think so

Godwyn shouldnt have Omen Horns and also doesnt have a big connection to the crucible. People are born as Omen. His clothes also have a different color I would also suspect that its a woman, the overall shape of the character looks too similar to a Uterus for it to be a coincidence.