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@@painted5887 Which is why Celebrimbor took it so harshly. (Granted I was peeved too but looking at it this way does make me feel less hateful about his vengeance...especially since I can't help but feel bad for the uruks that were driven insane accidentally by my shaming cause they were too high to own, but still). I was the kind of player that tried to brand and own all uruks I could, and boy was it a pain in Minas Morgul when there would be a chain of valuable uruks...who persistently had the iron will trait until they were in the teens.
The Amazing Crarthur He fought death, and won. He fought power, and won. He fought corruption, and he fought valiantly. In the end, he was a brave and noble Man-but just that-a Man.
I dont think he did use the ring of sauron, more like the ring wraith/Nazhgul were looking for the ring. But even if he did then it might because hes combined with a stronger spirit
Actually all you need is enough will-power to resist. Even a normal person, weak in body but strong in mind, can resist against the whispered promise of true power. But at the end the ring is stronger after all and everyone would fall.
Well to be fair, Sauron was dealing with Celebrimbor fighting for control as they became one being, so more or less those decades where spent when Sauron was nowhere near full power. When Sauron regained his power, Talion fell
Funny how the Witch-King seemed more sympathetic to Talion than Celembrimbor, and even offered him some small consolation, calling him his brother and all
"You are but a vessel and there are others" That betrayal really hurt but talion still made the right decisions and is the most selfless hero in this story
@@solitude_guard8756 same, the only elves I'd ever trust are Legolas, Arwen and Lord Elrond. The rest are a bunch of soulless, scheming assholes with no loyalties, drowning in their own hubris.
Rikaku Tenshima dude, you could kill sauron given enough time, as evidenced in the movies, they destroyed the ring so sauron was gone practically forever.
I loved this ending 100%. Yes I would've liked to fight celebrimbor and dominate him instead of him doing the dominating. A third game is likely to happen, celebrimbor's life force is fused in the silver ring which was not destroyed.
In the end, Talion got the peace he deserved. On the Shores of Valinor, his journey ended, and the ones he left behind... all those orcs, all those uruks who served faithfully and completely... They felt an emotion they never expected. An emotion Morgoth had tried and failed to kill. They felt grief, and sadness, at the loss of a lord. At the loss of a friend.
The ending to Shadow of War actually fits into the themes of The Lord of the Rings very well. In the Lord of the Rings a recurring theme is one of corruption. Isildur was the king who defeated Sauron and he was corrupted by the One Ring. Smeagol was corrupted and turned into Gollum. It took decades but eventually Bilbo was corrupted. When Frodo shows him the ring in Rivendell he goes nuts over it. Gandalf refuses to even touch it because he's afraid of becoming corrupted. Galadriel predicts she would become the next Sauron if she had it. Boromir was a war hero who was corrupted just being in its proximity. At the end of the book and the film Frodo becomes corrupted and it's only because he didn't kill Gollum that the ring is destroyed. At the end of Shadow of Mordor, Celebrimbor mentions he'd like to pass onto the Undying Lands, but Talion wants to continue fighting Sauron. After they forge their own "perfect" ring Celebrimbor is drunk with the power he has that he wants to move on from Mordor to conquer the rest of Middle Earth. His goal of stopping Sauron is the same but his motivation has completely changed. He wants to become Sauron. Talion eventually becomes corrupted himself due to his use of Isildur's ring and joins the Nazgul proper. Even Etariel goes from wanting to destroy the Rings of Power to accepting Celebrimbor's ring. The Rings of Power turn previously good characters into evil beings and it happens almost universally.
Well. Almost everyone. The only one who the ring couldn't corrupt was... Samwise Gamgee. The book stated that Sam was so pure and simple that when he held the ring for a moment, and the ring showed him what he desired most (which was honestly just a lovely home with a lovely garden), he looked into the vision and scoffed at it. No other character who the ring tried to influence beaten back the corruption so easily, even if they were momentarily exposed to its influence. The only other character the ring couldn't tempt was Tom Bombadil, who is let's just say an incredibly powerful entity that is masking its true nature (Tom is written to be an enigma intentionally by Tolkien after all).
@@SupaL33tKillar welp, from the point of mythology, Bombadil is a chtonic spirit, a personification of wild Nature itself. neither the Dark, nor the Light can claim him
SupaL33tKillar Aragorn also resists it for a brief moment when he is offered it by Frodo in fotr but Sam resisted for much longer even though he did take a moment before giving it back to Frodo
@@Amphyb wait then why did she kidnap Frodo in the first place? seems kinds self-destructive to hinder the hero who has the one thing that can destroy ur most hated foe.. maybe she wanted to destroy it herself instead? or perhaps saw thru the Web of Fate that the event had to happen so she went and did it anyway despite thinking it was a bad idea. I mean idk XD
@@sekira4516 yup. you never know what could have happen. maybe it was the only scenario where Frodo didn't fatally trip over a rock on his way to Mount Doom, lol :)
Rywolf it should be obvious if you read the silmarillion and the Lotr books as well as the hobbit, all of this, isn't canon, cause well, i highly doubt one see through boy, celebrimbor, and a bargain brand female Legolas, eltariel, can defeat one of the maiar, sauron, also helm hammerhand was born 5000 years after the nine nazgul were created, same with isildur but in his case only 1000 years, and Minas ithil fell in the second age, to be honest this was more of a 'hey let's follow lore but put in our own just to make this more interesting' also Shelob was just a giant, dangerous, spider in the actual lore, which the movies follow as absolute best they can, she wasn't able to shapeshift, or even give a damn about the struggles of middle earth so long as she could continue to eat, also only two of the nine had names, the witch King, and the second in command khamul (spellcheck) the easterling, so yea while this is a interesting story, it's all non-canon my friend
For someone who preaches that stalemate is victory, Eltariel is super quick to get behind the idea of dominating the Nazgul when she literally just saw talion kill one. Celebrimbor straight up states his plan for world domination and Eltariel is just like: “where do I sign up?”. The worst part is she never apologizes to Talion for leaving him on the bridge even in her own dlc in which she’s back to “I’ll kill you when you get corrupted.” Which she was by siding with Celebrimbor
@@FraserSouris maybe, but the people who are corrupted are either punished for their deeds (boromir, Frodo, Gollum) or rightfully become the villains of the story (Saruman, Nazgul, Gollum,lol) neither of these happen to Eltariel, who is still the hero of the story despite stabbing the protagonist in the back and trying to help a tyrant get the tools he needs to dominate the world
@@rhysoverbeck5251 Because Eltariel's story isn't complete yet. Like, Talion and Celebrimbor didn't get punished in Shadow of Mordor, they got punished in Shadow of War. Eltariel's arc is her starting out with the moral high ground, getting corrupted by power and then eventually facing the consequences like how Talion, Celebrimbor, Boromir and Gollum did or becoming a villain with Celebrimbor This is like reading Fellowship of the Ring and complaining that Gollum isn't punished yet but Boromir was.
They didn’t do a good enough job showing her desperation. Eltariel was in exile hunting Nazgul, which was an impossible task since they never die. She’s meant to fall to temptation since she saw a way to eliminate Nazgûl and go home.
@Kevin Fox So first off shadow of mordor and war aren't cannon. Secondly we only know of two of the ringwraiths the witch king and Kamul(might not be spelt right) he was an easterling or a man of Rhun. In the Return of the King Gothmog was theorized to a ringwraith. Finally the the different masks are just to distinguish the 3 other ringwraiths.
Well The Witch King was Saurons bitch whereas Talion was a former Rival who fought his rings Influence for decades. Giving someone like that any more power or even any Identity would most likelt turn him into a Brutus and no king wants a Brutus
And it came out to be true.. both of them were evil in the end and tried to conquer the world. One of them was dark and the other light but both evil... the light is not always the right path...
To be honest it’s true I mean before shadow of war talion kicked Sauron’s ass while wounded and if you think about it was he was also level 1 when beating Sauron plus Sauron had celebrimbor powering him up but talion still kicked his ass in a simple QTE
man what a shitty ending, and it all would have been fixed if the elf chick ended up fleeing from sauron and you some how get revenge on celebrimbor and said something like "hows this for petty revenge?". but here its like, oh yeah all that hard work to get to this point?, yeah fuck that fight the final boss with some side character you dont care about.
I love the detail that Talion walks into the sunrise. Even though he was a ringbearer, he was strong enough to keep the gift of man. He'll pass into the Halls of Mandos, reserved for humans and will see his family again, wherever Mandos may send him. That's beautiful.
Agreed, he kept his humanity. Even through it all, all the deaths and all the killing, all the fighting the ring of isildur for 60 years, all the time spent all alone it seems, he kept his humanity, his selflessness and his will
That final shot of Talion walking away from the broken sword is so cool. It all began with that sword that belonged to his son. Talion kept it and used it as a dagger to enact his intention against Sauron. After everything that happened, Talion finally feels like he can let the sword go. As if saying "I'm done, I'll be there soon Dirhael."
So I think the whole moral of the story for Lord of the Rings is that if you wish to defeat the greatest evils of the world all you have to do is cut their ring finger off. Seems simple enough.
I have found LOTR to be quite boring really, read the trilogy last year, it was quite decent but didn't find anything extraordinary. I liked ASOIAF better.
That has a unique beauty to me. The fact that Talion, a great freedom fighter, willingly donned one of the Nazgul rings to try and protect his country. That he resisted turning for decades, when most of the Nazgul turned in less than a year. And that he laid down his arms, the years of age given back in the afterlife, and found solace at long last. That brings a whole new dimension to the gaming experience, that is what makes a great game incredible. Fantastic.
Which is hilarious, given knowledge of what happens to those who aid Sauron and Morgoth, unwillingly or otherwise, in actual lore. Still, it's a fine enough ending.
There is mention of specific warriors being resurrected to fight against Morgoth in special circumstances, so that could make for a good third game lol. Talion walks into the light, ready to relax, and sees a giant horned monster eating people.
Dizzy Doom The Valar tend to forgive people. They forgave Fëanor (presumably since there is no mention of him being doomed to some place other than the Halls of Mandos). They also forgave the elven race as a whole when Eärendil came.
I find it interesting how talion always seems to be the most caring person in all of the shadow of mordor/war games. He is 100% willing to show mercy to those who seem worthy and he even tries to have small talk with celebrimbor every once in a while. But this trust leads to him getting betrayed by his allies multiple times. And then on top of that he seems to have the most will power out of any other character. He fights constantly for the gondorians and despite knowing his own limits as a normal human he fights constantly holding off dark forces for decades. He’s such a badass that has amazing motivation for most of the stuff he does
I had an orc with me from midway though shadow of Mordor all the way to the end of shadow of war, I made him the overlord of the final castle. Dush is and always will be the best fictional brother I ever had.
In the final stretch against the defense of gorgoroth brûz was my bodyguard and he saved me from a no chance and then a few seconds later he died and to say the least I shamed him at least 30 times
I have a brother his name is ur-benu but he became a maniac after I had to shame him so he could join my army now all he shouts is GORZNEG but he's the only loyal one I got if you could become blood brothers with orcs he would be my brother he used to be know as ur-benu the warborn but he's now my best orc called ur-benu the maniac he's the best pit fighter I got though he even helped me get undying loyalty by killing a orc 15 levels higher than him
Preston Nance I know right? It took a while night for me to beat the shadow wars. It got really stupid to the point that I couldn't even care for my orc captains anymore. They just kept bleeding out left and right in the hopes of finally watching the ending. I was beginning to think they were doing that so some people would actually buy the microtransactions out of sheer frustration. Feelsbadman
It took you 40-50 hours to do act 4? Damn, that's bad, took me about 5 hours. Full game start to finish, all quests and side objectives done in 57 hours. Who likes short games that cost $60?
Well, Morgoth is not dead. Just floating through oblivion without legs and arms, just a chest with head attached to it.^^ There is very funny fan-art and fanfiction about it. xD
He served Morgoth in the first age after that he's his own boss in the second and third age and as pointed out by SJ the Dagor Dagorath prophecy is not canon it was removed from the Silmarillion.
I love how at the end he didn't hesitate to drop his own sword, he was ready to be rid of it, but he had to look back at his sons sword (the broken one), Its like it took him a minute to realize all of that pain was finally coming to an end.
When my Talion became a ringwraith the default broken sword disappeared from my inventory but the dot that denotes new inventory items remained. I know it's a glitch, but I like to think that dot is the lingering memory Talion has for his son inspite of the sword being gone.
I do like how insane the first war was. We're talking a legion of Bal Rogs flying ships filled with angels...a mountain sized dragon. Really puts Sauron and how deeply screwed and scarred middle earth is in perspective.
L Shadow it's true that Sauron did serve Morgoth in the first age but after Morgoth got sent to the void, Sauron took his place as the new dark lord so in the time of the second and third age of middle earth he wasn't serving anyone
Don’t feel bad. He completed his original goals. He’s literally the reason it took Sauron so long to launch his invasion (bought over 60 years of time for Middle Earth) without him Middle Earth would have fallen quickly, his family would go unavenged as Sauran (who is the reason his family was killed) becomes ruler of everything, and finally he was released to the afterlife to be with his family after decades of fighting for good and brief time as a Nazgul
@@ink66 From finishing the game recently, the elf-story feels like cliffhanger where it never really says what happens to Celebrimbor. It might be that after their golum lord of the ring game, we might see continuation of the 4th age/new story spin-off regarding elf.
That ending was... actually quite fitting... he fought so hard and so long, and unlike the other Nazghul, he ended up in in what looks quite strongly like Valinor, the closest thing Middle Earth has to a "Heaven"... and finally found peace.
actually not quite, humans have an afterlife in lord of the rings. imagine sovngarde mixed with a great open field where mankind roams free of strife and war (same symbolism when he throws away his sword) the reason they have an afterlife is because they can determine their own fate and are not bound to the fate of the world like the elves. you know how mankind values freedom so much? this is how Tolkien uses that hunger for freedom for the sake of what i call "the lore of mankind".
Technically speaking Tolkien wrote Middle-Earth and all of Arda to be just feigned and 'unremembered' history of OUR world. So, our afterlife essentially falls in line with that of real life. IN that Eru gave men the gift of death, but Morgoth made us fear it. Elves are immortal and will be constantly reincarnated in the same body after a time of cleansing in the Halls of Mandos. No one really knows what happens to Dwarves though, though some think Aule made his own Hals for them. The Silmarillion basically just says men will seek adventure and things within the confines of the world but never be satisfied until we die. The reason being if you look at the cosmology as being within OUR world and the fact Tolkien admitted the work reflected his own beliefs the more he wrote them what you're talking about is a version of heaven for mankind. Otherwise there wouldn't be a big issue about Elves and Men being together if we all ended up in the same place. We do not, the implication of Tolkien's work is that when this world is destroyed Dagor Dagorath (Armageddon) the Elves are destroyed along with it, but mankind will be side to side with the Ainur when a new song is sung creating a new world. AKA The new heaven and new Earth. It's Christian theology like it or not. Just spiced up with pagan ideology and uses where it suited Tolkien. So, yes Talion seems to be one of the excepted few who got to go to Valinor (although even Frodo died as he wasn't immortal even whilst in Valinor), but in the end he had to go beyond the confines of the world. IE to be with Eru.
I could deal with the series ending here (If not, please do continue), but I would absoloutely love to see them implement the nemisis system into other games (if not sequels). It is honestly the best AI system I have ever experienced. Just no microtransactions next time thank you!
@@salmonfish1031 If they don't do anything then why are they there? I played the game too, I know that the microtransactions were 110% unnecessary to the gameplay. But they were there. It was more an issue of blatant corporate greed in the over-all industry than it was an issue with this game specifically. Single-player game with micro-transactions, good god!
I actually like how even Sauron himself admitted that Celembrimbor losing Talion was a mistake. Shows how powerful Talion's willpower is. If talion did fight sauron, he would have won and dominated him.
I like to think he was also the one who took a torch to the face against Aragorn and was sniffing the hobbits out when leaning on the log in the first movie. :)
Did anyone Notice that no one in the Lord of the Rings universe knows how to put on a ring properly? They are all using the Index Finger instead of the Ring Finger. No Wonder everyone keeps losing their rings...
sparten593 They are rings of power - not wedding rings. Index fingers are much more controlling and diverse, making it quicker to put the ring on/off. (I know your only joking)
Well what you say DOES make sense but they never plan to take them off do they? And if someone tries to cut your finger off (*cough cough* Sauron *cough cough*) they the index finger is the first to go. And it is a joke but i still like talking as if its a serious topic XD
sparten593 Your index finger is infact much stronger (bone-wise) than a wedding finger. So I guess there is that? Granted, you could argue it is more exposed, but if someone such as Sauron was aiming to cut it off, I doubt either circumstances would make a difference. ...thinking about this way too much lol
I like this ending for talion because it gives him peace after years and years of fighting the darkness in him and the forces of darkness. I just wish he wasnt banished from death
The point is he got his final release and was given death after Sauran was defeated, releasing him to be vulnerable to a fatal blow. He likely felt the disconnection and wanting to go to his family in the afterlife, flew into the fireball he easily could have dodged to die ASAP. My mans been fighting for over 60 years. It gets tiring at a certain point
Would it not be funny if Talion was the one that constanyly sabotages the dark lords plans by leading his fellow Nazgul to do incopitent stuff like being caught in a flood and being burned by Aragorn.
Denise Lau He also doesn't hesitate to drop his own sword, but he takes a moment to grip his son's broken sword before dropping it to the ground. (Don't give me credit for this, another dude in the comments made me realize this)
Nick P Talions story was sad but important, through his loss he was able to keep Mordor at war long enough to give middle earth enough time to destroy the ring
The difference between Celebrimbor and Talion was who they were as people. Talion wanted power to protect others. Celebrimbor wanted to control and dominate.
jared pope I mean, he saw his land destroyed, his people enslaved, his family butchered before him, he suffered torture and humiliation. It seems natural that Calebrimbor developed that lust for power, he never wanted to become a victim again, to be powerless as all he loves crumbles before him, so he wanted all the power and control. All things considered, its a standard reaction to such powerful trauma. Then he utilized acute narcissism to justify his actions to himself and others, who under utter despair before Sauron's growing might, were easily swayed by the superpowered cure for all their ills that just appeared out of nowhere, even one who is clearly mentally unhinged.
KaiserAfini we’ll put and in a lot of ways it shows how Talion despite experiencing trauma close to what Celebrimbor experienced stayed true to his morals and himself. He never wanted power for powers sake there was always a purpose for him. To defeat the dark Lord and avenge those he loved. In summary small scale typical hero thinking. Celebrimbor wanted more he wanted everything that was the dark lords even he’s complete obedience. I mean what a dick Celebrimbor clearly hasn’t seen lord of the rings fellowship of the ring to return of the king. She shelob however did.
jared pope Well, Talion had an advantage. According to the Silmarilion, humans, half-elves and dwarves have the ability to choose their fates. Elves are super gifted and physically immortal, but once their doom is upon them, all paths close. So when Sauron wronged both men in a similar fashion and brought his taint upon them, Calebrimbor's fate was sealed, while Talion could still choose a moral path (key word is could, it didn't prevent the second host from choosing power over justice). The smith is a truly sad character, all that power, knowledge, skill and ambition, yet they could not be used to protect anything he truly loved or even grant him peace.
If this game gets a sequel, I hope it's not with that she-elf. She was a terrible person for accepting the New Ring and leaving Talion to die and rot with a bunch of other orc corpses. Definitely not a character I'd want to play with, I'd have really bad experience.
Technically, Shelob retelling this tale is a little odd.. Considering she tried to kill the Ringbearer and got her ass handed to her by a freaking gardener.
The lore behind Shelob, what little is talked about by Tolkien, indicates that she is part demon as well as as this aberration of a spider. This comes from the fact that she's the last child of Ungoliant, and that chick was definitely half demon. Basing this line of logic somewhat off of Judeo-Christian mythology and angelology, being demonic would suggest that at one point the mother of spiders was a spirit or the hybrid daughter of one, and as a half Maia, she was corrupted and seduced by Morgoth back in the First Age. Therefore, her kids would be of fallen Maiar descent too, and have access to crazy abilities like illusory manipulation to appear as they choose, kind of like Sauron becoming elflike and beautiful as a callback to his ex-Maia self. Fast forward to Third Age, they also state that technically Shelob was independent of Sauron's influence. So this Shadow of War plotline is cool with me only because of that hypothetical concept that she is like a chaotic neutral being with leanings towards the Darkness because of her heritage, but also a sense of honor. It doesn't explain why she would just eat the guy who planned to bear the Ring to Mount Doom and destroy her rival in Sauron, but it does fill some origin story plot holes. It's hard for me to believe a mindless creature could live for millennia without being sentient and having more power than just being big and scary.
if you watch LOR you will see that lady galadriel said about doing same thing when frodo wanted to gave her the ring . a bright evil lord instead of a dark one . no one is really good
datboiwholived she already had a ring. But the 3 elves herself, elron( and the elf lord from the hobbit) have the rings of power. But Saurons ring was beyond powerful.
Jacob Bailey she also has 10 fingers, she could wear another ring. It doesn't matter that she already has one, she declined because she feared to change and become another "dark lord" and turn against her allies. Thranduil doesn't have a ring btw, as Thomas already said Gandalf has it and he got it from Cirdan when he arrived in middle-earth, not gil-galad. Cirdan got it from gil-galad. Gil-galad died before Gandalf arrived in middle-earth.
@Berserkgaming maybe it wasnt so unlucky actually.. maybe he deliberatly flew into its path cuz he knew what that meant for him and was ready to finally rest in peace and rejoin his family. also my personal headcanon is that Talion was the Naz'gul that both got burned with the torch by Aragorn and looked down in the tree stump and knew they were there but was like "fuck Sauron I'm going to pretend I dont notice them." in his head. XD
Sekira yeah I think you have a point because he released the previous owner of the Nazgul ring and he wanted him to finally as he said “Find peace in death”. Maybe he also understood he couldn’t live like that
I wish Talion could have gotten revenge on that she-elf for betraying him, after talking all that crap about the ring corrupting him he was still a better hope for middle earth than she was and she ended up using the ring to try and dominate and conquer.
Anyone els noticed the awesome detail about how he just dropped his own sword like it was trash. But when he took his sons broken blade he looked at it for a bit, seemed somewhat hesitated to drop it, and probably intentionally dropped it so it would land like that. A silent nod to his beloved son.
dont give away the brotherhoods reasons on youtube its only going to make it easier for those fu**ing templer bastards to join us and destory us fromthe inside like that lucy bitch tried
So you think he went back to talion ? (What I do not get is talion became a nasgul but he is still a wrath attached to his own body yet becomes invisible )
I thought the ending was so good it was hard seeing the main character I grew attached to leave but it was comforting knowing he can live in peace for eternity after decades of fighting.
Damn, I'll never be able to look at that last Nazgul from the movie getting whacked with that fireball the same way again. Such a badass and sad ending. Talion paved the way for Frodo and Sam to end Sauron, but he'll never be known for it.
Talion even makes a note of this in the first game. "There will be no metals or glory for us, Calebrimbor." "Maybe. But we must fight so that others have the chance to be heroes."
This isnt cannon. Talion never existed. Celebrimbor was actually a good person and never forged the one ring. Just the 3 elven rings. "Unlike both his father and grandfather, Celebrimbor was selfless and kind, and neither prideful nor covetous of what he created. He was described to have an "almost Dwarvish obsession with crafts"[5]; he became a famous artificer and smith in both Gondolin and Eregion. His love for crafts took him to Eregion, where he was introduced to a precious metal which he called mithril. Mithril was mined by Dwarves in nearby Khazad-dûm, later named Moria. Great friendship with the Dwarves of Moria developed, and skills and secrets were shared between Moria and Eregion for many years via the high road. But a long period of peace would not last, for upon realizing the trap which Sauron had devised for him, Celebrimbor was filled with anxiety and fear for his people, and was later described as the heroic defender of Eregion."
@@nickninja27 it's game canon, just as books are book canon, and movies movie canon. There can be multiple canons, because of the creator. What makes a series canon? Recognition, lore, or something els. No, a story is a story. There is no true way to tell a story, nor is there a bad way to tell it.
So celembrimbor betrayed tailion and tried to dominate sauron (failed and became 1 with him) and tailion became a nazgul Then after the lord of the rings movies tailion is no longer cursed and stops fighting I did not see that ending coming......
They are talking about the game not the story mate We all know it is not cannon due to jrr token law and that he created the books ages ago Well done to spot that
QuiteDaPlayer_ maybe not to the books, but I'm 100% sure it is with the movie. I clearly remember a couple of years ago that Peter Jackson was working with Monolith to fit Shadow of Mordor into the movies. I remember Monolith saying on multiple occasions that the Shadow of franchise is canon. Why would they put so much time and money into this franchise to only have it be non canon, that's just retarded. Also, it's not up to you on whether or not it's canon (or just canon to the movies). If we're talking about the movies, then that's up to Jackson to confirm. Until then, stop spreading that bullshit.
Got to hand it to Talion, fought off Sauron for pretty much half a century before finally being corrupted. I’m glad he eventually found peace after all the battles he fought.
Ranger kept him alive long enough to survive, he’s probably in a cave somewhere with an elderly cranky Ranger while Aragorn rules and probably dies with Ranger around the time Aragorn dies.
You fuckwits defending this are unbelievable. It is CLEARLY an attempt to get you to buy their lootboxes to gain stronger orcs and finish the Shadow Wars faster and unlock the end cutscene.
Brandon Berry for decades. It’s kind of cool how he retains control for so many years and most likely in complete silence with no one else to talk to save for orcs of course. He fought so hard for so long he was finally rewarded with everlasting peace
Which makes no sense because, lore wise, there was no buying time, it just takes very long to summon up an army of millions, as was necessary to take over Middle-Earth. I mean, irl today that would take decades. Irl 500 years age that would've taken centuries of planning...as it did in LotR
The problem is that talion is the only cool character in the game and in a sequel with who are u playing baranor ,that she-elf. The only character that is cool is talion
Yeah he is cool character. But in my opinion if they ever going make sequel i hope they leave Talion out of this. He fought against Sauron for decades and he also fought FOR Sauron for decades. He is been through enough shit.
I know the movies did this too, but why the fuck did Sauron have to SLOWLY walk towards Isildur and then SLOWLY reach his hand out instead of oh I dont't know SMASHIG HIM WITH HIS FUCKING MACE!?
I think they give you the answer with the way you dominate orcs...Sauron didn't want to just kill Isildor king of men and last hope of middle earth. He wanted to bend him to his will and unleash him on the world.
Well to get a little more lore-y Sauron's touch was like molten fire. He killed the Elven High King Gil-Galad by grabbing him and burning him to dust with just his touch. It was an act of domination in that sense I suppose. To utterly burn one away with just a touch. Having thrashed Elendil I'm guessing Sauron's folly, at least in Tolkien's mind, was his arrogance in trying to do this same thing to Isildur who had his chance to cut the Ring from his hand. Bad guys in Tolkien work like sowing the seeds of their own downfall.
Ending for Talion Explained: He takes Isiuldurs ring: Takes Minas Morgul and banishes the Witch-King, the rest of Nazgul fall back and retreat to barad-dur He keeps the armies of Mordor at bay for decades: When the witch kings returns as his original form with the rest of the Nazgul he persuades Talion to join the Nine (This makes it literally the Nine) Celibrimbor and Sauron become one until the free people of Middle Earth destroyed Sauron once and for all. Talion was free to roam what is probably Valinor and returned to his family and found peace.
The sacrifice Talion made was extraordinary!!! All that time protecting the world and no one even knows about him. He sacrificed all that time instead of passing over to eternal life with his loved ones.
if you watch LOR you will see that lady galadriel said about doing same thing when frodo wanted to gave her the ring . a bright evil lord instead of a dark one . no one is really good
Talion actually grew on me. I thought he had no personality and was no fun for the most part of the two games, even while loving these games to death. Kudos for a very good story and a very fitting tribute to Tolkien's amazing universe.
He ultimately avenged his family, saved Middle Earth, and showed his strength and threat to Sauran by resisted the power of corruption of Isildur’s ring for over 60 years and finally received the true death he had wanted to go to the afterlife with his family
Talion never really fought for revenge. In both games Talion's "soul" concern was protecting the living so long as he deemed it worth protecting. By the second one you can see how Talion no longer cares for revenge when he tells Ratbag that he is honored because he named a good friend after him. He even fought to protect Ranger when he knew very little from him but simply associated him with Ratbag. Revenge slipped away from Talion a long time ago, Celebrimbor just learned how to deceive using Sauron's method. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he developed some kind of homosexual feelings as that is the only thing on his mind is to "dominate" Sauron.
So I initially hated the ending... but when I put in perspective I seems rather fitting for an LoTR ending. But man I really wanted Talion to fight against Celembrimbor or the she-elf... get a piece of his own pie. Now I totally get the "sacrifice" Shelob was referring to. Quite good ending after marinating with it.... Hope this isn't the last adventure with Talion but it looks like it.
spoilers the Blade of Galadriel DLC ending and main character are way worse than the base game true ending, in fact the whole DLC is a huge pile of shit all over poor Talion's legacy and achievements... it made everyone rage pretty bad...... avoid it.
2022 Who After watching Ting of power i lost my will power to find good LOTR material ~ but This, this was Gold found in the land complete Amazon's bullshit..
Just finished the game almost an hour ago and came here just to rewatch the final moments of the Gravewalker who held an entire realm back while battling the corruption of Isildur's Ring. Long live the Gravewalker, Long live the Bright Lord! 👑
While I don't like the fact that they technically didn't win, and Talion becomes another nazghul and celebrimbor is just like sauron, you have to admit this is pretty much exactly what Tolkien would write as an ending for something like this and eventually Talion does find peace
It really is, Tolkien is probably smiling down upon the creators of this game. Him as a Christian would highly support the entire series, as Gorey as it can get, due to the Christian philosophy of one man dying to himself in order to save all others, and while this is a stretch, I still believe the similarities are enough that Tolkien would be proud.
Nine Lives Tolkien wasn't the type to portray main characters as shades of grey, look at Aragorn, Gandalf, and Sauron for example, Sauron is literally pure evil while Gandalf and Aragorn were just good guys, and this style of fantasy writing was what George R.R. Martin changed with GoT.
Yeah its non-canon anyway i wish they made the game a What if story but still the nazgul are loyal to the one ring it would be cool if they just make talion have a powerful willpower for revenge and he cant be dominated by sauron nor celebrimbor like the orcs that can withstand domination a third game like that would be cool
@@wildrussiansnake8978 That means there is ONE ending lol. Complete the game and its all stages (10 Stages) and you finish the game. I only see one ending.
NewbridgePiano That would give him an identity - yet he lost himself and is now a shell of his previous self and a slave. I like him being the same as it emphasizes what personality he has: none.
