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Shadows of Power: The "Corrupt Bargain" That Changed History and What Really Happened 

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This video is #sponsored by the City of Quincy. To discover more about Quincy, check out the link - discoverquincy.com
In 1824, the United States was emerging from the period of the so-called “Era of Good Feelings” during the James Monroe Presidency where there was a relative de-emphasis on party politics thanks to the Democratic-Republican Party more or less existing unchallenged during this time. But the good feelings were about to be gone, and a new era was rising where party politics would be tripled down on giving us the seeds of modern day politicking. On the one side was the decidedly hot tempered Andrew Jackson who had only 18 years before illegally killed a man in cold blood for calling him a “worthless scoundrel, ... a poltroon and a coward” but got away with it because, the past everybody. More on this in the Bonus Facts later. An orphan and perceived to be a man of the people, Jackson stood in stark contrast to the presidential candidates of yore in the country who largely came from either elite backgrounds or were groomed into politics from a young age.
Speaking of that, on the other side was John Quincy Adams. Quite literally groomed from childhood to become President someday, with his father, one-time President John Adams even writing to a young John Quincy Adams in 1794, “You come into Life with Advantages which will disgrace you, if your success is médiocre.- And if you do not rise to the head not only of your Profession but of your Country it will be owing to your own Laziness Slovenliness and Obstinacy.”
Yet a rather curious thing happened during the election of 1824. Andrew Jackson would go on to win not just the popular vote, but the electoral college, with Adams finishing well behind him on both in second place. And yet Adams, the inside man with friends in high places, was made President and Jackson nearly a footnote to history… That is, until an anonymous letter was published in the Philadelphia Columbian Observer that claimed Adams had made a secret deal with the speaker of the House Henry Clay such that if Clay would use his influence on the House to make him President, Adams would, in turn, make Clay the Secretary of State.
For context here, at the time, Secretary of State was the defacto office to have if one wanted to themselves become President someday. In fact, after the first and second Presidents in George Washington and John Adams, every President up to this 1824 election had previously served as the Secretary of State, and it was also the position John Quincy Adams presently held when he ran for President in this election.
What followed was a scandal that changed the course of United States history, helping to see Adams’ Presidency be largely ineffective and Henry Clay’s formerly insanely bright prospects at the nation’s highest office dashed, with his reputation among the general public forever sullied then and still pretty much to this day. This also saw Andrew Jackson’s star shining even brighter, with the scandal helping the otherwise largely unqualified and remarkably unstable Jackson to dethrone Adams in the next election.
But did the supposed bastion of puritanical ethics and rigidly moral to a fault John Quincy Adams, who very publicly vehemently opposed the spoils system, to the point that he even retained many officials in his administration from the previous who actively opposed and thwarted some of his efforts as President, truly throw off his normal extreme and well documented precepts and morals in his quest for the Presidency by making such a shady deal to rob the people of the United States of their chosen President?
Or was the whole thing just a 19th century viral conspiracy theory that blew up to change the course of history?
Well let’s dive into it, shall we, because this one is super fascinating.
Author: Daven Hiskey
Host: Daven Hiskey
Producer: Samuel Avila

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@TodayIFoundOut
@TodayIFoundOut Месяц назад
This video is #sponsored by the City of Quincy. To discover more about Quincy, check out the link - discoverquincy.com And for many more interesting videos in this "Making America" Quincy Documentary series do go check out the full playlist here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XsDXzjPbtjM.html
@jessetorres8738
@jessetorres8738 Месяц назад
Reminder: All 5 times the Popular Vote candidate lost the Electoral College Vote they were Democrats; Jackson lost to Adams Jr. in 1824, Tilden lost to Hayes in 1876, Cleveland lost to Harrison in 1888, Gore lost to Bush Jr. in 2000, & Clinton lost to Trump in 2016.
@reformedgarbage5415
@reformedgarbage5415 Месяц назад
Hello. Where the fudge has Simon been? Did you two have a falling out?
@christopherkessler4827
@christopherkessler4827 29 дней назад
​@@reformedgarbage5415Simon is on like 10 different channels rn.
@JakeSezz
@JakeSezz 23 дня назад
As a native Kentuckian, allow me to say: if it wasn’t for Henry Clay, Turtleman Mitch would be the worst politician in the state’s history.
@maryrowe3981
@maryrowe3981 Месяц назад
And we think, today, that today’s political jockeying is egregious…..🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️
@TodayIFoundOut
@TodayIFoundOut Месяц назад
I, for one, would at least like to see a return to political opponents writing full and detailed letters to one another feigning the utmost respect for their opponent and desire to be wrong about something they heard, all written in old timey, extremely eloquent speech patterns. 😋 -Daven
@holysecret2
@holysecret2 Месяц назад
@@TodayIFoundOut 100%. The language used is pleasant and educational, and speaks of rational minds forming rational thoughts. It also (at least seems) to respect the intelligence of the general public. Much of today's political bickering is an absolute insult to humanity
@maryrowe3981
@maryrowe3981 Месяц назад
@@holysecret2 hear, hear!!
@robertpolityka8464
@robertpolityka8464 27 дней назад
Excellent job. I have never believed in a "corrupt bargain" that was supposed to conspire between Adams and Clay. Here are several factors that reinforced that idea: 1. I didn't think about the numbers in the Electoral College for the Southern States being exaggerated in favor of Jackson because of the three-fifths clause. 2. This is the first time I ever thought about Jackson having his own "corrupt bargain", as a counter offer. This is either by designating Clay as Secretary of State OR by keeping Adams as Secretary of State. If Jackson were elected by the House and chose either one of them as Secretary, then the other one won. 3. JQA had an series of diaries that extends from the 1780s until his death in 1848. Why didn't Adams just release pages from the diary to the press on his account ? It would almost be the 1820s equivalent to the Nixon Tapes. 4. The history books will always record this incident as a corrupt bargain. However, it was never mentioned as Unconstitutional. Also, it is rarely mentioned that any future Presidential Elections could have a similar effect. 5. Jackson is the first of a series of Democratic Presidential Candidates that felt screwed over in an Election, by having won a plurality or majority on the popular vote, but losing on the Electoral College. (In Jackson's case, the House would serve as a surrogate Electoral College.) 6. If Jackson was such a strong supporter of whomever has a plurality being declared a winner, then why would he create the infamous "two-thirds" rule at Democratic Conventions when it came to choosing a nominee, that existed from 1832 to 1932? 1844 was the year where Martin Van Buren recieved a majority of the delegates on the first ballot. However, Jackson acted as a political kingpin. He withdrew support from Van Buren, who was his key lieutenant in Jackson's campaign, Jackson's VP, and a former President; in favor of James K. Polk, a former Speaker of the House, a former Governor of Tennessee, and was often referred to as Young Hickory. 7. Henry Clay was closer to JQA in terms of a personal relationship with either Jackson or Crawford. Clay was also closer to JQA in terms of ideology, then to Jackson or Crawford. Jackson was also seen as Clay's arch-rival politically in The Western States. I can see the logic of how the appearance of a "corrupt bargain" can happen between Adams and Clay. However, I don't see any logic of why Clay would want to support Jackson. Jackson could just change his mind about giving the Secretary's job, if a hypothetical deal between Jackson and Clay happened. Jackson could just lie and make Martin Van Buren as Secretary of State. 8. How many Speakers of the House would ask the House to investigate him for wrong doing? In addition to being a candidate for President in 1824, Clay also won reelection to the House (and likely the Speakership the following year). How many people offered their resignation on Day 1, if there was a bargain.
@katcaparula7898
@katcaparula7898 Месяц назад
Because the past. Full stop.
@niccolom
@niccolom Месяц назад
If you want to talk about events that changed the history of mankind, how about do one about the one in China during World War II? I think it's called "Xi'an Incident of 12th December 1936 (kidnap of Chiang Kai-shek" in English. If this event did not happen, the Communist Party of China would have been wiped out shortly after that date, and we wouldn't have the World Enemy #1 today. If it's been done before, please let me know. I looked in the list for episodes about WWII, there were 56 videos and 55 were about the European side of things. The only exception is the 2-hour special last year about the Nanjing Massacre.
@jeffdroog
@jeffdroog Месяц назад
Where do you get your facts bro? China is not even close to the world's #1 enemy...Considering,if your alive,80% of the shit you buy is made there lol
@DeaDGoD_XIV
@DeaDGoD_XIV Месяц назад
Really love these early American history videos you've been presenting, Daven. Wish you would release them more often, but I'm watching for free so I really can't be making any "demands"...
@TodayIFoundOut
@TodayIFoundOut Месяц назад
Thanks! You're really going to like next months' slate leading up to the 4th of July. A five part series tracing the entire American Revolution through the lens of John Hancock's life :-): Hancock: The Rise of the Merchant Prince Hancock: Igniting the Revolution Hancock: Revere's Ride Hancock: We Hold These Truths to Be Self Evident Hancock: United at Last
@r.s.richey9956
@r.s.richey9956 Месяц назад
Noice! Sounds good, thanks for the interesting content Daven, keep it up. & remember to ignore the haters, they're just shamless Factboy addicts. We all love Simon, but some folks are so obsessed they get withdrawals without a constant Factboi fix and turn nasty in the comments
@DeaDGoD_XIV
@DeaDGoD_XIV 29 дней назад
@@TodayIFoundOut that all sounds like hours of great educational stories
@marianneeichler648
@marianneeichler648 Месяц назад
Good job. Very interesting subject. I've read.much about Adams Sr but not so much about the Jr. Thanks, I look forward to more episodes of your work.
@TodayIFoundOut
@TodayIFoundOut Месяц назад
Thanks! :-) -Daven
@DBArtsCreators
@DBArtsCreators Месяц назад
Only solution I could see: Quincy could have selected Jackson himself for the position of Vice President. The situation would mean that Jackson either accepts, tarnishing his own reputation, or refuses, which would have spared Quincy's reputation to some extent (especially if Clay had not been selected as Vice President in the event of Jackson's refusal).
@redrhino732
@redrhino732 Месяц назад
as I understand it, the rules at the time did not allow the president to select the vice president
@str.77
@str.77 29 дней назад
@@redrhino732 They still don't.
@krisseekins5864
@krisseekins5864 29 дней назад
I really like these videos. Thank you for your efforts! ❤
@tturi2
@tturi2 Месяц назад
Simon is evolving
@mygreenfroggy
@mygreenfroggy 27 дней назад
It's really too bad some of this can't be done in the character's "voices".
@Heartwing37
@Heartwing37 Месяц назад
Politics is a dirty business….
@MusicalRaichu
@MusicalRaichu Месяц назад
What, so they can't even pronounce their own name properly?
@daffyf6829
@daffyf6829 Месяц назад
You'd think a better solution to insulting letter exchanges would be to not open the letters from that person.
@masternecro3511
@masternecro3511 Месяц назад
Jackson was Trumping before Trump.
@jessetorres8738
@jessetorres8738 Месяц назад
Reminder: All 5 times the Popular Vote candidate lost the Electoral College Vote they were Democrats; Jackson lost to Adams Jr. in 1824, Tilden lost to Hayes in 1876, Cleveland lost to Harrison in 1888, Gore lost to Bush Jr. in 2000, & Clinton lost to Trump in 2016.
@AlphariusDominatus
@AlphariusDominatus Месяц назад
Today I found out this channel is a puppet of Russia
@Hillbilly001
@Hillbilly001 Месяц назад
Adams Jr.? There's never been an Adams Jr. as president. Jackson was a Democratic-Repubican. While John Quincy Adams was a Whig. Just saying....
@AlphariusDominatus
@AlphariusDominatus Месяц назад
@@Hillbilly001 wtf you talking about?
@Hillbilly001
@Hillbilly001 Месяц назад
@@AlphariusDominatus Just correcting someone's politics.
@AlphariusDominatus
@AlphariusDominatus Месяц назад
@@Hillbilly001 Adams Jr. Was President
@auro1986
@auro1986 Месяц назад
there was corruption but no bargain
@edankriss141
@edankriss141 Месяц назад
My dude, you make pimpin look easy
@josephcronin2965
@josephcronin2965 28 дней назад
Why are you always talking about Quincy? Do they pay you? Why would they? Do you live there?
@TodayIFoundOut
@TodayIFoundOut 28 дней назад
The Quincy people are hugely supportive of education and telling their portion of American history in an interesting and in depth way. :-) That's kind of exactly what we like to do too regardless. :-) They are also really great to work with and the biggest bunch of history nerds you'll ever find. :-) Again, kind of like us. :-) Our favorite sponsor and second place isn't even close. :-) Also fun getting to tell some stories we might not otherwise get to as more American centric, but super interesting stories to tell. A few of them are my favorite scripts I've ever written and more people should watch them. Just good, interesting human stories. A lot to learn from them. :-) -Daven
@Smithy1991
@Smithy1991 Месяц назад
Duels never should have been outlawed
@privacyvalued4134
@privacyvalued4134 28 дней назад
Well, they technically still aren't as long as both parties die. Can you actually stop two people who are intent on killing each other by passing a law? I say that's not really possible to do. And people duel all the time today. We call those multiplayer shooter video games. And those are still considered to be legal.
@Smithy1991
@Smithy1991 28 дней назад
@@privacyvalued4134 “anything is legal if all participants die” ya that’s not how that works. And ya you actually can stop many people from doing something by passing laws. Most people don’t want to go to jail. It’s a deterrent that works most times. People duelling in games isn’t real duelling. Real duelling as in the video…
@MobtacticsBruh
@MobtacticsBruh Месяц назад
You have to change the title of this video. It needs more detail for what this video is actually about
@TodayIFoundOut
@TodayIFoundOut Месяц назад
I understand where you're coming from, but the "corrupt bargain" is an extremely famous political event in U.S. history and if googling simply "corrupt bargain" all the top results are surrounding this event because of it. We also further clarify in the thumbnail with the pictures of Andrew Jackson, Henry Clay, and John Quincy Adams what we are going to talk about. While many may not recognize Clay and Adams in the pictures, that Andrew Jackson is on the $20 bill, his face is relatively recognizable. I do see what you're saying though, so mulling it and based on your feedback put quotes around the Corrupt Bargain to try to further emphasize. :-) -Daven
@thedayidied
@thedayidied Месяц назад
No. They don't "have to" do anything. This is not your channel, mate lol. They can title it however they want.
@4362mont
@4362mont Месяц назад
You're the one expressing the need, and the need is your own.
@jeffdroog
@jeffdroog Месяц назад
No,that's what the video is for lol
@TheCerebralMirage
@TheCerebralMirage Месяц назад
I don't think he has to change it, but both the thumbnail and title told me immediately that it was a highly partisan video propping up a populist at a key time where a populist is running in a US election. The election was called a corrupt bargain by Jacksonians.... which most legal, political, and game theory scholars refute. A more accurate and less partisan title would been "The Birth of American Populism, Jacksonian rhetoric of corruption and the assertion of the corrupt bargain" Instead, the title itself is populist and is as divorced from ideology and reality as real life Populism is. Clearly a hit piece.
@saritacruz3020
@saritacruz3020 Месяц назад
Is this the most boring tea ever spilled?
@JammastaJ23
@JammastaJ23 Месяц назад
Where is our sweet precious fact boy!? Please tell me he's safe.
@leighpowell1062
@leighpowell1062 Месяц назад
He's fixing the lock of the basement
@r.s.richey9956
@r.s.richey9956 Месяц назад
Oh no! Did a writer escape?
@BullScrapPracEff
@BullScrapPracEff 29 дней назад
I have to call bs on his pronunciation. Simon gets a pass pretty often, but the attempt at building a falsehood...
@TodayIFoundOut
@TodayIFoundOut 29 дней назад
Do you really think the city of Quincy and their insanely history buff group and their local historians and the like who all watch these videos we've been doing with them for over a year would let me get that wrong? ... 😋 -Daven
@andersed1
@andersed1 19 дней назад
@TodayIfoundout I have to admit I did a double take on the pronunciation. My dad is from Quincy Illinois, and it definitely is not pronounced with a Z there.
@rachelgates509
@rachelgates509 Месяц назад
Despite all the minutia this guy got in to with all the he said/she said, COME ON!!! Who among you does NOT realize that Clay supported Adams in exchange for the appointment to Secretary of State?!!!
@Skedazzle
@Skedazzle Месяц назад
For all the back and forth it becomes simple when you ask the question "who benefits?" Given that Jackson became president I'd say it more likely Jackson's supporters made the accusation to shore up his position and offer political cover for their own maneuvering - standard dirty tricks stuff to accuse your opponent of what you yourself are doing
@user-bs8dg5kq7u
@user-bs8dg5kq7u Месяц назад
So many sisters in the comments 💀
@jeffdroog
@jeffdroog Месяц назад
BOT!
@AaronLitz
@AaronLitz Месяц назад
The video was very interesting, but I just _could not take_ listening to all of the interminably long-winded quotes every ten seconds. I actually had to stop watching because I couldn't stand it any more; a summary of the letters would have more than sufficed.
@christopherchander2754
@christopherchander2754 Месяц назад
Agreed. Around half-way through it settles into a meaningless drone and I was just wishing for it to end. If they avoided trying to showcase Quincy and the historical documents that may be found there, this entire clip would be less than 20 minutes, I'm sure.
@catherinehowell2163
@catherinehowell2163 Месяц назад
I second the agreement. I listened to about a quarter of it, then turned it off since my eyes were rolling back into my head. Just tried to continue listening while I was in the car, and couldn’t make it past the next long-winded quote. Granted that was how people wrote back then…normally I love history, but maybe I’m not so avid a listener about politics unless the quotations are used more judiciously.
@johnburr9463
@johnburr9463 Месяц назад
Reminds me of Trump in many ways.
@daffyf6829
@daffyf6829 Месяц назад
Been saying this for some time.
@laser8389
@laser8389 Месяц назад
How do you and Simon have such entirely different but equally awkward speech patterns? I mean, I love the content, but you COUld stand TO even out some OF the overemPHAsis on awkWARd syllabLES and Simon could may...be get some medical hel...p with his gaspi...ng twenty times per... ... ... sentence.
@4362mont
@4362mont Месяц назад
If the narration triggers your brain to itch, tpyou could try turning on captions and muting the video? Or, just read the transcript?
@laser8389
@laser8389 Месяц назад
@@4362mont That's a thought
@DenethordeSade.90
@DenethordeSade.90 Месяц назад
​@@4362montor they could just leave and find someone they can stand to hear...speak? Crazy if that's something someone actually concerns themselves over. Privileged or something?
@4362mont
@4362mont Месяц назад
@@DenethordeSade.90 The next time you attempt to tag along on a helpful suggestion I make with some de Sade-type comment, I won't be seeing it. You aren't relevant to me. /plonk
@jeffdroog
@jeffdroog Месяц назад
And you could do with less meth lol
@AlphariusDominatus
@AlphariusDominatus Месяц назад
You should be more careful with your rhetoric during World War 3.
@4362mont
@4362mont Месяц назад
Threat, or are you just a busybody, er, busytexter?
@AlphariusDominatus
@AlphariusDominatus Месяц назад
@@4362mont that depends on you
@AlphariusDominatus
@AlphariusDominatus Месяц назад
@@4362mont you can't be the victim forever. Sooner or later you have to pay up.
@4362mont
@4362mont Месяц назад
@@AlphariusDominatus Internet Tough Guy it is, the. And now, Internet Tough Guy --Alpha-- "Dominus" goes: /plonk
@AlphariusDominatus
@AlphariusDominatus Месяц назад
@@4362mont nice try Russia troll 🧌
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