Shane Douglas on Why Wrestling's Popularity PLUMMETED in 1993

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Shane Douglas on Why Wrestling's Popularity PLUMMETED in 1993
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FU to you all! ECW Legend ”The Franchise” Shane Douglas once again dons his Dean mortarboard and breaks out the trusty ”Board of Education” to beat some wrestling sense into you... verbally speaking... every Tuesday, Shane Douglas will take a deep dive into a different subject, event or performer with his trademark intelligence, expert insight and take-no-prisoners, spin-no-bullsh*t attitude.
Without Shane Douglas, there would have been no ECW World Heavyweight Championship.
It was Douglas who, on Aug. 27, 1994, won a tournament to become the new NWA Heavyweight Champion, and then threw the title down and proclaimed the death of the National Wrestling Alliance and the birth of the ECW World Heavyweight Championship.
No other competitor on the ECW roster could have pulled off such a flagrant act of defiance with the poise of the man who declared himself ”The Franchise.” Indeed, it was Douglas’ unflappable confidence, poison tongue and hair-trigger temper that made him both a captivating personality and a sports-entertainment outlier better suited for the uncensored world of Extreme Championship Wrestling.
The Franchise did not start out this way, however. Trained alongside Mick Foley by Dominic DeNucci, Douglas skateboarded into WCW as one-half of the fun-loving Dynamic Dudes alongside John ”Johnny Ace” Laurinaitis in 1989. Looking like Zack Morris with his bleached blond mullet and neon high-tops, the upstart popped over to WWE in the early ’90s and then back to WCW where he developed rapidly during a championship partnership with Ricky ”The Dragon” Steamboat.
Douglas’ breakout as a singles star came in 1993 when he abandoned his white bread good guy act as ECW’s newest villain. Dispatching his hardcore opponents with a rough, technical style - Douglas always favored belly-to-belly suplexes over barbwire bats - the Pittsburgh native became the first champion of the rebranded Extreme Championship Wrestling, and the leader of The Triple Threat. An obvious challenge to his nemesis Ric Flair and his Four Horsemen, the group’s rotating cast of characters included Bam Bam Bigelow, Chris Candido and “Primetime” Brian Lee at different times.
A brief trip to WWE in 1995 became the career lowlight for Douglas as the Dean Douglas persona (based on the fact that he was formerly a school teacher) forced upon him failed to catch on with WWE fans who saw it as a retread of The Genius. When he returned to ECW, he had an even bigger chip on his shoulder. Now with his “head cheerleader” Francine by his side, The Franchise captured both the ECW Television and ECW World Heavyweight Titles while besting Chris Jericho, Bam Bam Bigelow, Sabu and many more.
After losing the ECW World Heavyweight Title to Tazz at the Guilty as Charged pay-per-view in 1999, Douglas returned to WCW for a strong two-year run as The Franchise. He won both the United States Title and the WCW Tag Team Titles (alongside Buff Bagwell) and captained competitors like Dean Malenko and Perry Saturn in an impressive faction known as Revolution.
With extra stops in TNA as a manager and wrestler, Extreme Revolution and a mainstay of the independent scene to this day, Shane Douglas has been involved with pro wrestling at every level for 40 years.
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@briannettles669 11 месяцев назад

A lot of the decline in popularity of wrestling had to do with the decline of the territories. To a large segment of the population, the territories were pro wrestling to them. They did not care for the cartoonish WWF or WCW (which was WWF lite), so they just stopped watching wrestling. Plus, the decline in the territories meant the huge pro wrestling development machine ended as well. The territories developed all of the wrestling talent from the early days through the 1980s, so when they ended, very few exciting new wrestling talents were being recruited and developed. This hurt the overall depth of pro wrestling rosters in the early to mid-1990s, which also hurt the popularity of the product.

@mikeg2491 11 месяцев назад

IMO the territories were doomed even without Vince. Cable television gave people a hell of a lot more options for TV content and local broadcast access was becoming more irrelevant. Without Vince they’d probably merged together to air content nationwide to survive or some other honcho would have bought them up with the same ideas.

@bb-gc2tx 11 месяцев назад

also the people like me who were kids during hulkamania era in the mid late 80s were now in our late teens and had moved on

@Donathon-qx8kq 11 месяцев назад

I, for one, miss the territories... wrestling was fun back then

@mr.perksy 11 месяцев назад

Yes, and also a lot of the 80’s Hulkamnia stars were winding it down and getting older. This was before they were resurrected in WCW.

@chrischar9428 11 месяцев назад

if that drivel was true it would have shown in the 80s

@slimjim2114 11 месяцев назад

Man, I enjoyed some WCW in the early 90s.

@spiffy8576 11 месяцев назад

Should’ve kept up their early push of Flyin Brian Pillman.

@MyNameIsUnavailable 11 месяцев назад

PN NEWS, biotches

@mr.perksy 11 месяцев назад

I did too. Even though overall business was down in wrestling WCW was refreshing to watch as the WCW Saturday night show was different than WWF Superstars or challenge.

@jamesplaysgames3574 11 месяцев назад

The decline of wrestling in the mid 90s is because the kids that Vince was marketing to in the 80s, were now teenagers that were in high school and were into playing sports and dating girls. Then we became adults in the late 90s and came back to pro wrestling when the business got more mature.

@BishopWalters12 11 месяцев назад

I agree, Times were changing and the wrestling business in 93-95 still felt like they were stuck in 1988.

@catrakes5276 11 месяцев назад

Nwa style wrestling could have lasted forever without very much evolution, 1970s thru1988 Crockett was fire !! Wwf was bubble gum pop wrestling and always has sucked. . . Russo McMahon Heyman Hogan Hurd Dunn are all guilty of killing what was traditional territory style "real" wrestling that sold tickets for decades

@mikedeck8381 11 месяцев назад

Actually there were a number of factors but this was definitely one of them.

@crazyjim9380 11 месяцев назад

To a degree, I would say you were correct. Kids still watched wrestling but it was almost embarrassing to admit it to the other kids and almost nobody wore T-shirts. It wasn't specifically a teen high school thing. I was in Junior High when RAW debuted and it had nothing to do with dating/sports. By Attitude Era, I was in high school and everybody loved either Austin or N.W.O. or Goldberg. Wrestling was fun again and kids were openly admitting to going to shows and buying merchandise because the product was now geared toward teens and young adults. A girl I dated was even into wrestling and could name all the people on RAW. Vince simply just was still stuck in the 80's for a long time. Nobody was going to be caught dead wearing Bret Hart shades in school or whatever Shawn was wearing in 1993-94 but Austin, Rock, N.W.O., and D-X made it a cool again.

@ShadowAngel18606 11 месяцев назад

No, it really just boils down to a couple things: - Numerous massive scandals. Wether it was the Ring Boy Scandal, the Steroid trial or the faked rape allegations against Vince. This hurted the WWF (and wrestling in general) dramatically. Altough WCW wasn't hit all that hard, their decline was relatively small (their business declined due to boneheaded decisions like Simmons as Champion or unwanted PPVs like Battlebowl) - The lack of any wrestler to follow up on Hogan. Warrior bombed badly and there was nobody else. By early 1993 Bret became the worst drawing WWF Champion in history (and would remain that until 2001) and Vince didn't pull the trigger on Luger either. There was nobody to pick up the pieces and run with it. - The wrestling fad was simply over. People moved on from it and looked for the next thrill The later point is important as the same thing happened here in Germany in 1996 just as the nWo was blowing up: People had enough wrestling and moved on. Before that wrestling was so red hot, that Germany quickly became one of the most important markets. We didn't know about the Scandals. Hulkamania to us was a new thing. Heck, this style of wrestling was a new thing compared to the european style we had with the CWA. But after a few years people just get bored and look for the next big thing. That's the same with every fad. Wrestling also always had its ups and downs. When Burke, Londos and George were huge, it drew, then the fad was over in the 60's and Wrestling declined, it saw some territorial upswings (especially New York with Sammartino and later Backlund) in the 70's, but it took a while for the next big boom, thanks to Hogan. Then he was old news and wrestling declined. Then a new boom started and ended when people got bored with it again. And now nobody wants wrestling anymore because even the so called wrestlers today don't take it serious and think it's all just a big joke and meme.

@mikem10481 11 месяцев назад

It was the culture of the time that changed too. By 93 it was about Gangsta Rap and Grunge. It wasn't until ECW and Smoky Mountain that took advantage of these trends.

@liquidgeorge 11 месяцев назад

Shane Douglas is THE best at answering questions in shoot interviews. He’s clearly intelligent, considers the question posed, provides logical links to points and evaluates/summarises his points. I don’t care what anyone thought m/thinks of him as a wrestler, he is the upper echelon when it comes to this.

@jonalbertson10270 11 месяцев назад

The elimination of the territories and the older generation, IE Hogan, Flair etc.. not wanting to step aside and groom the up and comers on their way out was huge.

@bluntamainia444 11 месяцев назад

This. Everyone forgets how bratty those two were and because of their respective political powers hurt the growth.

@chrischar9428 11 месяцев назад

Weak take

@chrischar9428 11 месяцев назад

@@bluntamainia444bratty? JFC

@SuperHyphyOne 11 месяцев назад

That makes a lot of sense because back in the early 90s, the vast majority of the people watching at home who didn't have access to dirt sheets were thinking to themselves "Yeah, that Hogan and Flair are getting old and aren't putting anyone over." Take a seat mark.

@breno7950 11 месяцев назад

TBF flair put everyone over.

@galagajunkie 11 месяцев назад

I got into wrestling during the Rock 'n Wrestling boom, mostly WWF because tuning into TBS at 6:05pm Saturdays wasn't an easy task when you're 10 years old. I followed WWF for several years, watched SNME and PPV's whenever I could, but I distinctly remember around 1991 finding my little brother watching Superstars one morning, and he was enthralled with a segment featuring the Undertaker, with Paul Bearer and Brother Love doing their over the top gimmicks. I thought "This is so fake..." and because I really didn't want to be into "kid's stuff" anymore I stopped watching until really late into the Attitude Era then got hooked again.

@yetanotheruser1989 11 месяцев назад

Great answer. Lots of moving parts contributed to those few years of reduced popularity.

@michaelaker1621 11 месяцев назад

The US was in a bad recession at that point so less disposable money for live events and merch. Culture was changing; the type of music, movies, and comics people were into was different. And let’s not forget that most of the Golden Era WWF and NWA guys were out of their respective companies by mid-late 1992. Also the kids who grew up watching it were going through puberty/HS/college and into different stuff.

@mrperfectedkelly 11 месяцев назад

I still believe that if you have never watched pro wrestling before and you one night stumbled across RAW or Smackdiwn etc, with the lights, pyro, colourful attires and high flying moves then it would blow your mind and get you hooked. Especially as a youth. If you then watched wrestling from say 2003 you’d probably think it wasn’t as good as todays product. With every generation our tastes change and especially with wrestling as wrestling tries to often mimic what’s going on in society and pop culture at the time. Just my opinion.

@bluntamainia444 11 месяцев назад

I think deep down we all wanted colorful characters of the 80s, todays tv production with the in ring style of the 2000s, we will never get that

@jacobkubacki2719 11 месяцев назад

All us Hulkamaniacs grew up & Hogan became stale. Add the whole steroid bullcrap the government had going on was the main reason business dropped like it did & the WWF became way too cartoonish. It wasn’t until Hall & Nash “invaded” & Hogan turned heel(Talk crap about Hulk or not, that shit made the morning news) that Wrestling became interesting again. Then came ECW & Stone Cold came around & all was right again. But it didn’t last. We’re back to boring again because the corporation’s hands are tied for creating controversial content that actually get people emotionally invested in the characters. But thanks to the death of Kayfabe & that you can see your favorite character’s behind the scenes lives that kills any suspension of belief. That’s how I see it.

@BishopWalters12 11 месяцев назад

Exactly, I was also a massive Hogan fan but it was getting boring by 1992. The business as a whole from 92-95 still felt like they were stuck in 1988.

@louio 11 месяцев назад

@BishopWalters12 go look up the Posters or VHS Cases for 94-96 WWF PPV. (In your house) So fucin' dated! 😂😂

@jacobkubacki2719 11 месяцев назад

It was fun while it lasted!? 🤷‍♂️ Both era’s. Im hoping this whole super PC world will lighten up a little so people can make really good content again. Its not like the talent’s not there now its just everyone’s hands are tied by the stockholders. Only, if wrestling could get a little more darker in story lines & introduce some real world controversy into the storyline again, it could be really good. That & maybe actually finding someone with huge charisma that the company doesn’t have to try & force people to like em. That would help too. I miss looking forward to Monday Night festivities & shit. Everything comes to an end sooner or later. IDK? Maybe Im the asshole?

@richnielsen4465 11 месяцев назад

That sounds like AEW.

@AlphariusDominatus 11 месяцев назад

Gave rise to ECW, Smokey Mountain and USWA. Blessing in disguise.

@elp3035 11 месяцев назад

Imo, nothing exposed the business more than shoot interviews. I remember reading the list of rumors and being blown away by them. And then as the interviews started coming, it really killed the perception I had. It wasn't just finding out Santa wasn't real, it was like Santa isn't real and he's also a peace of shit. Or he likes to shit in other people's gym bags.... the interviews changed everything imo

@TifaLuva 11 месяцев назад

Don't know if you will even see this. I love listening to your talk, your stories and overall a fan.

@christhornycroft3686 11 месяцев назад

Wrestling and sports entertainment in the 80s was current in its presentation. It fit the times. By the early 90s, things had changed, aesthetically and culturally, and the cartoon characters weren’t connecting with audiences. Also, the territory system that people in the south had grown accustomed to was over and WWF and WCW had to figure out how to recruit and develop young talent under that changing landscape. At the same time, the people running it wanted to either maintain the old presentation or copy what the other guys were doing. They were losing old fans and failing to attract new ones. ECW, for all its flaws, saved the business by showing the 2 big companies how to modernize and recruit new young talent in the 90s. That’s why wrestling largely sucks now. There are no territories to develop wrestlers and train them to be stars. You get guys off the indies now and if you don’t have guys who were trained at a school and had a burning desire to learn to be a safe, intelligent worker, you end up with AEW. They literally sent Pillman Jr, the guy trained at Lance Storm’s school, to NXT, so they could focus on guys who learned to wrestle on trampolines.

@joeriveracomedy 11 месяцев назад

I'm Glad Salvatore Sincere got some shine on the Vladimir doc

@shanebagin 11 месяцев назад

I remember being 13 years old going to the show at the MECCA.

@TheBaitShopGuy 11 месяцев назад

"Can't put the toothpaste back in the tube" 2:40 That's a Jim Cornette line I've heard him use a bunch of times

@liquidgeorge 11 месяцев назад

People have been saying that since toothpaste was tubed. My old headmistress used it.

@russphilbrook9719 11 месяцев назад

Thanks Shane

@Filmation77 11 месяцев назад

All the great "Wrestling Booms" throughout history always reflected their times. And old people complain that "Wrestling sucks now" but think about this for a sec: we live In the Era of stuff like Fortnight, Hyperactive action franchises like Fast-X,The MCU etc so when some fans say "they're jumping on trampolines " look at what kids coming into Wrestling grew up with? Especially after the Monday Night Wars? And media Like DragonBall Z

@mikeg2491 11 месяцев назад

I grew up loving the Lucha Libre wrestling of WCW so naturally I gravitate to AEW’s style even though I know it makes old school marks nuts.

@louio 11 месяцев назад

@@mikeg2491 because there's no psychology...... interesting Luchadors & most important storylines..... I mean Rey Mysterio Jr & Eddie sold, hell MJF ain't lucha style but at least he sells the moves and keeps it 💯 with Kayfabe.

@TheImapotato 11 месяцев назад

Think a big thing was, with all the scandals, toy companies & other media aimed at kids pulled away from wrestling. No advertising and merch meant no reaching new audiences. Combine that with cable TV taking off and kids grabbed onto other things to watch and get invested in. As for older fans, like many have mentioned, territories dying meant young wrestlers couldn't learn and develop their own gimmicks so they went into WWF and WcW as bland or unfit for their gimmicks & the creative teams just could not get them over

@A_YouTube_Commenter 9 месяцев назад

WWF was doing high schools in 93. Albeit it was big enough to hold a lot of people but it was a huge drop.

@CrackCrackCracker 11 месяцев назад

Shane hit the nail on the head with me when it came to wrestling in the early to mid 90's. The older guys were working out of the business leaving the void for the newer, younger and largely untested people. I would watch WCW and it wasn't so much as I was watching as it was wrestling was on and I had it on. I had grown up in the NWA with Dusty, Road Warriors, The Freebirds, etc and these newer guys were nothing close to them. Looking at the career that a lot of them wound up having is awesome and I would have loved to have seen them at that point in wrestling. But we as fans don't get to see just the best of them, we have to see them coming up and finally becoming what they evolve into finally at the end of their run when it all comes together.

@R2B2YT 11 месяцев назад

can you imagine if Vince ever wrote a tell all book....that would be wild

@louio 11 месяцев назад

Vince Mcmahon doing a podcast on his years of Wrestling would be ENDLESS!!!!!!

@mr.perksy 11 месяцев назад

That would awesome. I always wanted to hear a real in-depth story from him on how he went about the national expansion in 83/84. Who he tried to hire, territories he went to and offered, etc.

@chrischar9428 11 месяцев назад

Only if he spent more on pussy then two other companies

@R2B2YT 11 месяцев назад

im sure whatever went on in the 80s would def get him canceled, theyd all be in jail....was like the wild west then @@mr.perksy

@marcusbrothers5221 10 месяцев назад

I have to keep pointing out that Watts wanted to showcase the light and junior heavyweight wrestlers by only allowing the lightvheavyweight division to use the top rope. If he was allowed to proceed we would have got 2 cold scorpio and Brian Pilman in an airborne fued for a title on TV.

@misterknightowlandco 11 месяцев назад

Ironically, any wrestling company would looooove to have to TV ratings they had then. Time’s certainly change.

@chrischar9428 11 месяцев назад

But not live attendance. That was the money. Booking for a quarter hour is beyond stupid

@QuentinDude 11 месяцев назад

WCW-never-actually-turned-a-profit-till-95-and-WWF-was-dealing-with-the-steroid-scandal-and-Hulkamania-had-ran-its-course-there...WCW-and-WWF-flipped-their-rosters-alot-in-93-through-95...Cant-imagine-how-much-money-Vince-lost-with-the-whole-WBF-debacle-as-well.

@chrischar9428 11 месяцев назад

Yes-wrestling-lost-lots-of-money. It's-the-cyclical-nature-of-the-business-even-in-territory-days-

@williammitchell4417 11 месяцев назад

Jim Herd bailed at the time. Cowboy did a worse job than even Tony the Kid is now. This was why Corny was wanting to throttle everyone in Smokey Mountain.

@chrischar9428 11 месяцев назад

He didn't bail. He was shown the door

@williammitchell4417 11 месяцев назад

@@chrischar9428 and it didn't hit him in the @$$ HARD Enough!!!

@BrianJamesShanley 11 месяцев назад

When Summer Slam 93 signed off the air, I was done as a serious fan of wrestling.

@M4rt_FX 11 месяцев назад

This guy took 12 minutes to answer a question answerable in 12 seconds.

@sampleoffers1978 11 месяцев назад

Hogan was like Jay Leno, trying to reclaim his 1980's spot but they pushed warrior out for knowing his market worth...Then they got caught flat footed with no AWA to rip off lol...nwa was around but they were not quite as roided and wwf burned bridges with successful brands fearing warrior-itis contagion, but everything new was hokey, yet cable television was only sixty ish channels with generally formulaic content and reruns. wwf wanted Jake Roberts, Brutus brands, Jyd, even Steambot...to fade out so they could not claim some legacy building the company, was the impression. Meanwhile mainstream music went nihilism AND social activism until about 1995.Entertainment generally was hit or miss, but wwf just had nothing warrior level and gradually turned to Micheals vs Hart who were mid cards in 1980's because they could not figure out how to book diesel,undertaker etc. wwf needed smart mark promotion to ripoff and did not get that until ecw.

@chadk890 11 месяцев назад

Bret Hart and Vader were the only saving grace back in 93. The Hollywood Blonds( Pillman and Austin) should've had a longer run.

@chrischar9428 11 месяцев назад

Goons. Trash men. Dentists. Salvatore Sinceres. Cole Twins. Van Hammers. Wrecking Crews. Scotty Flamingos

@stevenhenry5267 11 месяцев назад

Ding dongs

@chrischar9428 11 месяцев назад

@@stevenhenry5267 I was doing early 90s but sure

@WinstonCat10 11 месяцев назад

Nobody except fanatics were reading dirt sheets in 1993. No one even knew what that was

@charlesburge3074 11 месяцев назад

The kids were born in the early 70s gravitated towards wrestling more than the kids born in the 80s

@mr.perksy 11 месяцев назад

It depends. I was born late 70’s so by the national expansion in 84 and 85 when WWF started to explode I got really into it as a young kid in elementary school. So kids born in the mid or late 80’s maybe gravitated more to it during the attitude era.

@mattcaporuscio6956 11 месяцев назад

Society in general changed a lot from the late 80s to the early 90s not just in wrestling but in music and entertainment. Wrestling evolved in the 80s but it didn’t change until the late 90s for example Monday night war, ECW, NWO, or Austin.

@justinmartin1831 11 месяцев назад

All the stars from the 80s during the wrestling boom period all were getting older and/or leaving. Hogan, Savage, Jake, Andre etc Plus add in all the fans who were kids during that time who all grew up and lost interest. The steroid and sex scandals didnt help WWE public image at the time and wrestling was sort of a dirty word during the time.

@Jimbeam151 11 месяцев назад

Puke a mania (Hulkamania) is what turned me off.

@davidporter7051 11 месяцев назад

No it didn't. From April 92 to June 93 Hogan didn't wrestle in the States. Try harder because your response is really bad

@mikeg2491 11 месяцев назад

@@davidporter7051I was 10 years old in 93 and that was when I was really deep in with the toys, the toothbrushes, going to friend’s houses to watch the PPVs. If you ask me about early 90s wrestling I think Undertaker, Bret Hart & Shawn Michaels not Hogan.

@davidporter7051 11 месяцев назад

@@mikeg2491 only 10 in 93 you are young. You only reinforced the fact "Hulkmania" was the reason business was down in 93. Hart was great in the ring not a transcendent superstar, Taker ICON but never the guy, Michaels=male stripper and had everything to be the guy but was his worst enemy. Not a single one did a fraction of the business Hogan did. Even the stale Hogan the great value version made WCW a peer to the WWF immediately after signing with Turner. This was the WWF with Michaels, Hart, Undertaker, Diesel, and Razor Ramon on top.

@BishopWalters12 11 месяцев назад

@@davidporter7051 Exactly, Hogan was getting stale but people trying to blame him are being ridiculous. I love HBK but it wasn't cool for young boys to like this male stripper guy at that time, he was never going to sell shirts, Bret was great in the ring but like you said, he lacked star power and Taker was popular but he was never going to be the face of the business.

@JeffHardyfan316 11 месяцев назад

Professional Wrestling has become a household name nowadays. Or household talk. Wrestling is bigger than ever because of WWE & AEW. When I saw WCW PPV's for the 1st time I thought to myself oh Shane Douglas. He was in a WWE Royal rumble. It wasn't that spectacular. Let's see how well he does in WCW. And I watched the PPV's back thinking oh OK Shane Douglas is better. He's just not a top Star. And I still wonder if ECW would've done better if Shane Douglas was a Good Guy for once.

@BishopWalters12 11 месяцев назад

WWE and especially AEW are nowhere near as popular as WWF was during the golden era or attitude era.

@Irritant1000 11 месяцев назад

Thats why AEW has 1/4 filled arena's all the time

@stevenhenry5267 11 месяцев назад

Everything you wrote is false

@clayton5584 11 месяцев назад

Ultimate warrior did it for me. I quit watching around 91

@rondoughhowell6442 11 месяцев назад

People got bored with the "take your vitamins " all Americans good guy why else Luger in 94 didn't get over ,People wanted Anti-Heroes not Heroes

@saburvd7874 11 месяцев назад

Once steroids were made illegal wrestling went downhill just like in the NFL and MLB. Thankfully many wrestlers found growth hormones and wrestling stayed alive.

@WinstonCat10 11 месяцев назад

WWF characters in 1993 were terrible. Too much turn over. No likable faces. Awful fake imposter wrestlers. Hogan’s creative control. Many reasons

@frankyturrizo4240 11 месяцев назад

They weren't giving them what they wanted to see

@chrischar9428 11 месяцев назад

What did they want to see

@frankyturrizo4240 11 месяцев назад

@@chrischar9428 Razor and Diesel invading wcw then wwf doing the Jerry Springer sh*t

@chrischar9428 11 месяцев назад

@@frankyturrizo4240 don't think people wanted that in 92 or 93

@Cajunman1977-k3f 6 месяцев назад

Hogan definitely didn't help

@Sneakerveli 9 месяцев назад

Personally i stop watching as much because it was too cartoon ish. Especially when getting older toy want to see more realistic wresting which made me watch more wcw than wwf at the time..

@Drummer8282 11 месяцев назад

Steroid scandal plus ring boy scandal.

@FAITHandLOGIC 7 месяцев назад

WWF sucked from 1993 - 1996 because of Vince's creative. Horrible gimmicks that just insulted the intelligence of wrestling fans from the 80s. 1997 brought in new edgy content thay everyone loved.

@dany-ps2my 11 месяцев назад

The creative from wwf and turner sucked, it was stupid, cartoonist and just boring, wcw was horrible compared to Crockett and Nwa action, wwf was always just unbelievable kids stuff