STOP giving illustrations about the so called "trinity" because all you will do is fall into heresy. The water, ice, and vapor illustration, for example, closely resembles modalism which is that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are simply 3 modes of God which was deemed a heresy. Another common illustration given, the egg. Father, Son, and HOLY Spirit, egg white, egg shell, egg yolk but still one egg is a terrible illustration because it represents the heresy of partialism which claims that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are simply parts of God. the Holy Spirit is simply God's spirit or the Father's Spirit. The Bible says that God is a Spirit but what kind of spirit is He? He is Holy therefore the Holy Spirit. And Since Mary conceived through the Holy Spirit that makes the Holy Spirit the Father of Jesus. do you not realize that the trinity is a concept that was made in the Council of Nicaea? The trinity is not real, nor was it taught by any of the disciples. 1 John 5:7 for example was ADDED to the Bible to support the trinity. What most versions read is "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Spirit and these three are one" when in reality the original manuscripts read "For there are three that bear record in heaven the water, blood and Spirit and these three agree". Do your research and stop believing everything that apologist , theologians and pastors tell you and go search for yourself.
@@misfaqurrahman317 You don't think that God can be here and there at once? You think God is limited by the limitations of this world? Do you know what God means? ***John 8:57-58 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?” Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” >>> ***John 6:45-47 "It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me. Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father. Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life." >>> ***John 14:8-9 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father." >>> ***John 20:26-29 And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” >>> ***John 8:57-58 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?” Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” >>> ***John 6:45-47 "It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me. Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father. Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life." >>> ***John 14:8-9 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father." >>> ***John 20:26-29 And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” >>> ***Revelation 21:5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.” And He said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son.
@@misfaqurrahman317 I just debunked your claim. BTW that passage in Mark doesn't say that Jesus is not God. It says no one is good except God. It's a hint. I don't need to learn about the quran. I don't follow satanic murder cults. -the quran says that the Torah and Gospel are the word of God. -the quran claims that muhammed is in the Torah. -he is not. nor is allah. -thus if the Torah and the Gospel are the word of God, then the quran is a false book talking about a false prophet of a false god.
@@misfaqurrahman317 you see I used to be in a very dark place, for my whole life i never believed in God i pretty much had no purpose i got into new age spirituality I tried finding ways to pull me out of the dark pitch i was in, it was like hell i had no joy in life and thank you for your offer i have learned about islam i have listened to quran and even tried praying I honestly felt nothing trying to find hope but with Jesus it was a different experience it wasn't just like well i read the bible i gotta follow these laws so my pain goes away. When i first learned about him it was like learning about a long lost family member I had a fresh air from my pain even tho i still have my traumas I found my future I will never forget that day, I ended by talking to him and actually feeling God's presnece as a inferior sinful human only Jesus can give you this communication with a Mighty God. all i will say is instead of finding evidences to prove "religions" look for the peace look for the salvation allow him in your heart we don't get to him we CANNOT only He can save us
Can you explain how does the trinity of the church work when Jesus died on the cross as they claim??? And why should God died for our sins? Why does God come down to the earth only 2000 ago? What about human beings who lived millions of centuries before his coming, did they not have any salvation? What's the point of sending thousands of prophets and Messengers before the coming of Jesus ???
Jesus was promised by God as soon as Adam sinned (Genesis 3:15), and lost the opportunity for his children (we included) from enjoying endless life on earth. An EQUAL was sent to die in Adam's place and release the whole human family from this inherited imperfection. (John 3:16) “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. Those who accept this ransom sacrifice will benefit from it and enjoy: (Psalm 37:29) The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it. BTW if one is wondering. The dead will be resurrected and given an opportunity to learn about this ransom sacrifice and decide if they want to benefit by it. (Acts 24:15) And I have hope toward God, which hope these men also look forward to, that there is going to be a resurrection of BOTH the righteous and the unrighteous. Resurrections bring BACK INTO EXISTENCE those who, because of death, have CEASED TO EXIST. Hope this is helpful. (and BTW again, Jesus is NOT God. Has never been.)
@@LB-lx8iq John 15 : 10 “ If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father’s commands and remain in His love.” John 16 : 27 “.. the Father Himself loves you because you have loved me and have believed that I came from God. I came from the Father and entered the world ; now I am leaving the world and going back to the Father.” I have found 350+ verses where Jesus refers to my Father.
The reason is because the Trinity belief is totally false. The scriptures never taught that there are 3 personalities in God. If you want more information on this i will help you understand.
@@mrdude3540 You would be wrong. The Trinity is a reality, and can easily be found in the Bible. If you just look. So in the name of our King Jesus Christ open your eyes. ***John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. >>> ***John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. >>> -In the name of King Jesus who is the Christ open your eyes and understand. >>> -John 1:14 tells us that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and that the word was the only begotten (Son) of the Father. The Word = Jesus. >>> -John 1:1 tells us that the Word (Jesus) was with God, and ... "the word was God." >>> -And how did the Word (Jesus) come to Earth from the Father? >>> ***Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. >>> -the Child of Who? "the Child of the Holy Spirit." -And Who is Jesus the Son of ? God the Father. -And once more Who was with God and is God? The Word Who is Jesus. >>> -Who do you baptize in the name of? The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit.
@@sadikmeah4057 maybe Solevan was a Virgin birth? than what would you believe? just his one parent was an idiot? the guy above claims if a 12 yr old came to him as a teacher, he'd have a front row seat. Sheesh.
Man, Iam a Christian and iam telling you that you don’t have to respect anyone believe.. just respect God, who knows who is right who is wrong, only God.. iam not recommending you hate people but you surely can laugh at them, lol..
Okay soooooooooooo.... now, I love you! Lol, just because you said you are Batman. I have to post this series of sermons I did years ago called Superhero Saga where I go over that Batman saying I am Batman! I also came across your video because it is listed after my video of a similar name.
Jhon 14:28 n "You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. Matthew 24:However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows! So even though that they are one in unity, like we are with them, the father is higher and have a mind of his own!!
Criss Criss No that's not true. Those verses you posted are from Jesus speaking as a SERVANT. Philippians 2 5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus: 6 *Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;* 7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death- even death on a cross! Jesus came as a SERVANT to the Father and did not consider equality with the Father something to clibg to...so He humbled Himself and took on the form of a man and made Himself a servant in order to show US how to serve God. So all those verses you quoted are Jesus speaking as a servant...that's why He said the Father is greater, because Jesus took on flesh and BECAME a servant. But clearly philippians says Jesus is *equal* to God. And so does John. John 1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. ...the word became flesh and dwelt among us. If you think Jesus is a lesser God than the Father you then worship 2 gods and that makes you a polytheist.....which I doubt you would say you are.😊 God bless you.
I understood ths guy....he made thngz easier though fo deeper understanding go read the scriptures he wantd to mke it easier nt bring up more questions and confusion but at least i hve qn idea of Who n What God is...cme on Guyz it was only 3 minutes
Not reading the whole Bible in context creates confusions. Whatever religion you're, we all understand God and His nature through the written scriptures. Likewise In Bible God has revealed Himself as 3. The scriptures itself indicates plurality, that works as one. Some examples; *Luke 4.18 ... “The Spirit of the Lord is on me,..." (The spirit, Lord, & Jesus.) Plurality here too. John 10:30 I and Father are One. John 14:9 Jesus answered, "Don't you know me Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'show us the Father'? *Exodus 3.14. ...I AM hath sent me unto you..." *Matthew 28:19 “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." Baptist in the name of 3. the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, as One.
I have a question? Is there any other persons in The Trinity other than The Father, The Son, and Holy Ghost? For example: Is The Burning Bush from Exodus 3, Pillar of Cloud by Day & Pillar of Cloud by Night from Exodus 13, Man that wrestled with Jacob from Genesis 32, Angelic Man that spoke with Abraham from Genesis 18, etc.. Are these included within or outside of The Trinity and do these persons of God have their own thrones and is their scriptures to back up the answer for these separate persons of God?
That is God using objects to communicate and navigate like a phone to call someone and a GPS system that navigates. I believe the Angelic man that Spoke to Abraham was God himself. As only Jesus is our mediator so no Angel can negotiate on God‘s behalf and make decisions for him only God can do that. I’ll break it down for you. Jesus Christ = the Flesh of God Holy Ghost = The Spirit of God The Father = The soul of God All are one. Like man We have a body made of flesh a soul which is where we think where we give orders to our body on how to move. Our spirit is the emotions we fill the Will that we have that thing that keeps you going inside. We’re three parts but one person. Our Body isn’t our soul and our soul isn’t out body. Because we can’t see our soul. Our spirit isn’t our body and our body isn’t our spirit. The spirit is our will to keep moving forward the emotions we feel our moral compass.
Don't lose any sleep over the Trinity theory invented by the RCC. One will notice that scriptures are ignored and analogies are used to explain it. Here is a simple, scientific and unambiguous truth. 'No man has SEEN God at ANY TIME.' - 1 John 4:12,20. This certainly rules Jesus OUT from being God at ANY or even SOME TIME as humans including the writer SAW Jesus.
He said "If i asked God who are you, God would reply ' I am Father, I am Son and I am the Holy Ghost, three persons but only one God" Really In a book as large as the Bible in which God is the central character, where God is mentioned over 10,000 times by name and title, a book in which God reveals much about himself, He never even came remotely close to describing himself as Bob Rice does in this video. He went on. "anything that is made in the image of something is obviously going to be less". Now we are getting closer to the truth because Paul tells us at Col 1:15 that Jesus is "the IMAGE of the invisible God".
@Doris Mensah:Really understandable? I don’t think so. Bob is making 4 persons out of the trinity or he is promoting Modalism. Bob said if you asked God WHAT He was He would reply, “I am God, one God”. If you asked God WHO he is, He would reply, “I am Father, Son, and HS”. - this is Modalism, especially as he keeps referring to God as He. Modalism- God manifest in 3 modes. If this is not Modalism, then which Person of the trinity is answering the question? The way Bob puts it, it looks like a person called God is answering on behalf of the Father, Son,and HS? If they are 3 separate persons with their own mind, which one of them is replying “ I am Father, Son, and HS”? Also, Bob is implying that God has changed in His or IT’S nature. Before Jesus came to earth, what was his nature? When he returned after the resurrection, what was his nature then? If out of the three, only Jesus is fully man and fully God in nature, this means there is an inequality of nature or essence in the God. Nowhere in the Bible does it teach that God is 1 WHAT and 3 WHOs. God is always referred to as a Person with a personal name and referred to by personal pronouns. The truth is simple. The doctrine of the trinity and Islam is false.
@@misfaqurrahman317 The respected prophet a model for humanity and holiness is Jesus Christ, not ISA, it is Jesus Christ. 1 Peter 2:21-23; John 13:15. There are no divine words in the quran. Read the book, Sources of the Quran by W. St.Clair-Tisdall, (available online in pdf). The quran was arranged to meet the needs and benefits of Mohammed. " Narrated Aisha: I used to look down upon those ladies who had given themselves to Allah's Apostle and I used to say, "Can a lady give herself (to a man)?" But when Allah revealed: "You (O Muhammad) can postpone (the turn of) whom you will of them (your wives), and you may receive any of them whom you will; and there is no blame on you if you invite one whose turn you have set aside (temporarily).' (33.51) I said (to the Prophet), "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires." Sahih Bukhari 6:60:311 Jesus said "You shall know the truth and the truth will set you free" (John 8:32). Free from slavery to the sunnah of mohammed, free from fear of the hellfire, free from the fear of doubting and free from the fear of finding out the truth of Islam. I would sincerely invite you to embrace this freedom but I know the fear of death for leaving Islam is too great for you. May the true God of the Bible (not trinity) give you courage. Amen!
@@misfaqurrahman317 I read the book I suggested to you, plus many sources from your religion and it provided so much evidence that Islam is based on lies that I and many others want muslims to be free of such deception. The fear of the hellfire is yours, not mine. Even your prophet said he didn't know where he will end up, and yet he told the people before he died that all the muslims including himself will spend some time in the hellfire. Seeing the falsehoods of your religion will put you in turmoil, but I still pray that you will have courage to accept the truth which is to be found only in Jesus Christ. Peace!
@@faithreasons3041 Trinity is a fact. ***John 8:57-58 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?” Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” >>> ***John 6:45-47 "It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me. Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father. Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life." >>> ***John 14:8-9 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father." >>> ***John 20:26-29 And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” >>> ***Revelation 21:5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.” And He said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. >>> ***Genesis 32:28 And He said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel; for you have struggled with God and with men, and have prevailed.” >>> ***Zechariah 12:10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. __________________________________
Trying to explain God by reading the words of men is such a contradiction. Listen to yourself, how can this make sense. The trinity is a creation of men, not of God. To presume that you understand God is an vanity that baffles any believers mind. Where is your Christian humility? You and Bob should meet and share your great understanding of God.
Then you don't know what you're talking about. STOP giving illustrations about the so called "trinity" because all you will do is fall into heresy. The water, ice, and vapor illustration, for example, closely resembles modalism which is that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are simply 3 modes of God which was deemed a heresy. Another common illustration given, the egg. Father, Son, and HOLY Spirit, egg white, egg shell, egg yolk but still one egg is a terrible illustration because it represents the heresy of partialism which claims that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are simply parts of God. the Holy Spirit is simply God's spirit or the Father's Spirit. The Bible says that God is a Spirit but what kind of spirit is He? He is Holy therefore the Holy Spirit. And Since Mary conceived through the Holy Spirit that makes the Holy Spirit the Father of Jesus. do you not realize that the trinity is a concept that was made in the Council of Nicaea? The trinity is not real, nor was it taught by any of the disciples. 1 John 5:7 for example was ADDED to the Bible to support the trinity. What most versions read is "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Spirit and these three are one" when in reality the original manuscripts read "For there are three that bear record in heaven the water, blood and Spirit and these three agree". Do your research and stop believing everything that apologist , theologians and pastors tell you and go search for yourself.
@@bornwithoutprivilege2050 trinity was not created by man. You are proof that the trinity could never be created by man, because it's too complicated for you.
Hebrews 5 : 7 "In the days when he lived this human life of ours he offered prayers and entreaties to Him who was able to bring him safely through death with strong crying and tears. And when he had been heard because of his reverence, although he was a Son, he learned obedience from the sufferings through which he passed. When he had been made fully fit for his appointed task,he became the author of salvation to all who obey him, for he been designated by GOD a high priest after the order of Melchizedek."
Tell me this why in Genesis does it say make man in our image then Jesus says I pray to the father and in Revelations it says Jesus sits at the right hand of the throne that's the part fully understand
But this is... Hebrews 1:8 {the Father calls Jesus God} Psalm 45:6 But unto the Son he {God} saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom. Hebrews 1:6 {the Father tells the angels to worship Jesus} And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world he {God} saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. John 20:28 {Thomas calls Jesus God} And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. { o Kurios mou kai o Theos mou } the definite article. …..Does Jesus correct Thomas? No, he calls him blessed. Romans 9:5 {Paul calls Jesus GOD} Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen…NIV I Timothy 4:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles believed on in the world, received up into glory. Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. John 1:1, 2,3,14 {John calls Jesus God} In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word. He was in [the] beginning with God. All things through him came into being, and without him came into being not even one [thing] which has come into being. And the Word flesh became, and tabernacled among us, ..................Even the demon Al lah calls Jesus GOD (Islam) "…O Mary! Behold, God gives you good news of a word from Him, who shall become known as the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary..." (Quran 3:45) "…The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of God, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary..." (Quran 4:171) "…God gives you good news of (a son whose name is) John, (who comes) to confirm a word from God…" (Quran 3:39) ..................As the demon mormo does too. (Mormonism) Mosiah 13:34 { God took the form of man } Have they not said that God himself should come down among the children of men, and take upon him the form of man, and go forth in mighty power upon the face of the earth. Mosiah 4:2, {Jesus took the form of man } ....for we believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God , who created heaven and earth and all things: who shall come down among the children of men.. Matthew 1:23 (Matthew calls Jesus GOD} Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Acts 20:28 {Luke calls Jesus God} Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. Isaiah 7:14 {The Holy Spirit calls Jesus God} Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Exodus 3:13-14 (the Father states he is I AM THAT I AM) And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, what is his name? What shall I say unto them? And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. John 8:58 10:30-36 {John states Jesus said he is I AM} Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. Matthew 28:17 {Apostles worship Jesus} Luke 24:52 And when they saw him, they worshiped him: And they worshiped him. John 1:18 5:37 {Jesus states} No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. And the father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. Genesis 17:1, 3 {So who appeared and spoke?} And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, etc. Exodus 3:4 And when the Lord saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, here am I.
Isaiah 48:12 44:6 44:8 {The Holy Spirit states God is the First and the Last} Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also the last. Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel and his Redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first and I am the last: and beside me there is no God. Is there a god beside me? Yea, there is no God; I know not any ……John states that GOD is the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End Revelation 21:6-7 And he said unto me, it is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things: and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. …..When was God, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End, the Alpha and Omega pierced? …..John states the Son is the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, The Beginning and the End and he was pierced Revelation 1: 7, 8 11-14, 22:13, 16 {Does Jesus think he is GOD?} Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindred’s of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so amen I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was and which is to come, the Almighty. 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: … 12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;… 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last… I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Revelation 1:17-18 {John states Jesus is the First and the Last?} And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, fear not; I am the first and last: I am he that liveth, and was…………….. Dead, and, behold, I am alive for evermore, A-men; and have the keys of hell and of death …..When did the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End, the Alpha and Omega taste death?
Deuteronomy 33:27 {The Father has always been} The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee; and shall say, Destroy them. Psalm 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. Jeremiah 23:24 {The Omnipresence of the Father} Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? Saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? Saith the LORD. Proverbs 15 {The omniscience of the Father } The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good. Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 1 John 3:20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. Matthew 19 {The Omnipotence of The Father} 26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, with men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. ============================================================ Micah 5:2 { Jesus has always been } But thou, Bethlehem Ephrata, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Matthew 18:20 {The Omnipresence of the Son} For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. Ephesians 4:10 He that descended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things John 21:17 {The omniscience of the Son } He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, feed my sheep. Colossians 2:3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. Matthew 28:18 {The Omnipotence of The Son} And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, all power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Philippians 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself. ============================================================ Hebrews 9:14 {The Holy Spirit has always been } How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? Hebrews 9:14 {The Omnipresence of the Spirit} How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the Living God? 1 Corinthians 2:10 {The omniscience of the Spirit} But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 1 Corinthians 12:8-11 { The Omnipotence of The Spirit } For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: But all these worketh that one and the self-same Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. Not good enough? I have more
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, *The mighty God*, The *everlasting Father*, The Prince of Peace.
"The everlasting father" is not compatible with Hebrew here, theologically and gramatically. The phrase in hebrew, which is אבי עד, contains two nouns: אבי, meaning Father of; and עד, meaning perpetuity, or the coming age (but in this context, it means coming age). The Latin Vulgate consistent with the Hebrew grammar, translates it as "Pater futuri saeculi", which is "Father of the Future Age". This rendering is very consistent with the Monotheism of the Bible, that YHWH alone is the Almighty God, and with the Messianism of the Gospel, that through only the Messiah Yahushua can we enter the Coming Age, that is we will have the Hope our Resurrection through Him, as Isaiah 53:10-12 states. The Messiah is not the Father YHWH, and He is not the Everlasting Father, but He is the Father of the Coming Age.
And the term for "Mighty God" is not applied merely for YHWH, but even for very mighty warriors of the nations, as in Ezekiel 32:21 says. This term means "someone having great power and authority". The Messiah Yahushua is el-gibor, in that He rules through the Authority which YHWH His Father God has given Him, as the whole Psalm 72, Isaiah 11:10, Daniel 7:13, Psalm 2, Psalm 110:5, John 3:35 states. It is YHWH, the Father of the Messiah Yahushua that gives Him this power and authority.
@@thebedouin. you are wrong. It also says mighty God in Isiah 9:6. Jesus Himself said in John 17 the ONLY true God is the Father. Isiah9:6 tells us the Son is the Father and the Mighty God. Jesus twice in John 14 says the Father will send the Holy Spirit, then says in 16:7 it will be Him who sends Him once He departs 2 Corinthians 3:17 says the Lord IS the Spirit. Trinity says The Son is not the Spirit. But the bible says He is... Galatians 4:6 Says God sent the Spirit of His SON My spirit is still me, the Spirit of Jesus Christ is still Jesus Christ, there is no separation. Matthew 28:19 says to be baptized in the NAME (singular) of the Father , Son and Holy Spirit Acts 2:38 says baptized in the NAME(singular) of Jesus Christ The bible doesn't contradict itself. There are no 2 different ways to be baptized. John 5:43 Jesus says He came in His Father's name Hebrews 1:4 says Jesus inherited His name. To claim the Father and Son are separate is a heresy brother. Not taught in scripture, don't believe me? Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear O Israel, the Lord our God , the Lord is ONE Ephesians 4:5 One Lord , one faith, one baptism One God and Father of all who is above all and through all and in you all There's no difference. There's 0 separation Revelation 1:17 Jesus says He is First and Last Isiah 44:6 The Father the God of Israel says He is First and Last Isiah 43:11 Says there is ONE GOD AND ONE SAVIOUR New testament teaches Jesus Christ is our Saviour Jesus teaches the only God is the Father , John 17 So are you saying there's 2 saviours? The Father and the Son, because that is not what God says and not what Jesus Christ says. 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to show yourself approved The trinity is a lie and a heresy that separates the Father , the Son and the Holy Spirit, but scripture itself contradicts that. 2 Coeinthians 3:17 alone says the Lord is the Spirit , the Lord is the Son. We can agree on that.but trinity says the Son is not the Spirit. Who's lying, God's word or the council of nicea? Pray and fast about the Trinity and I promise you now brother our gracious and merciful God will pull you straight out of that lie. God bless you
Isaiah 9:6 appropriately calls the Messiah "Mighty God", but that does not mean that he is Almighty God himself. In 1 Corinthians 8:5, 6, Paul says, “For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many ‘gods’ and many ‘lords’), yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live." (NIV) Only the Father is called God. According to Philippians 2:9, after Jesus's death and resurrection, God exalted Jesus to an even higher position than he had before "and gave him the name that is above every name." Does that mean that Jesus' name is even above God's name? No. Philippians 2:11 explains that Jesus's exaltation is ultimately to bring glory to God the Father. Jesus' name is above every name except for the name of the One who gave him that name. Paul said something similar in 1 Corinthians 15:27. After saying that God subjected all things under Christ's feet, he goes on to clarify: "But when he says all things have been subjected, it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him."
4 Questions for you 1- Can you give me where in the Bible Jesus or the Father say "The Holy Spirit is God or co-equal to God" 2- Why does Jesus deny knowing when is the Day of Judgment? Does God lie? 3- Why does Jesus testify he cannot decide in heaven who sits near him? Does God lie? 4- Why does Jesus keeps calling the Father MY GOD on earth (John 20:17) and even after more than 70 years in heaven (Revelation 3:2 and Revelation 3:12)
The Trinity is a man made dogma invented by Catholicism to explain how Jesus is both the Farther and the Son. They failed miserably and caused mankind to think Jesus is God Himself. He's NOT. God has always said, "I the Lord your God am ONE God. Besides me there is no other God; I know of not any" Yeshua (Jesus' real name) Said, I and my Father are ONE." He NEVER said Three. In fact he prayed before his death that HIS people be ONE with him as he is ONE with the Father.
Nole, because not even trinitarians can explain the trinity. It is illogical and pagan and false. We have ONE GOD, The Father, *AND* we have one Lord, Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 8:6 And acts 2:36 tells us that *it was GOD who MADE Jesus "Lord".* And Acts 10:38 tells us that *GOD anointed Jesus with The holy Spirit!* It also tells us that *GOD was **_WITH_** Jesus.* Philippians 2 tells us that *it was GOD who EXHALTED Jesus and GAVE Jesus his name.* Blessings
+K C, 1 John 5:7 was ADDED by Latin Vulgate to support Trinity. Newer Bibles like NIV omit this verse and footnotes explain it was NOT found in earlier Mss of the NT. You need to be up to date. Especially if you want to add anything to this discussion.
Obviously you didn't listen carefully. Jesus has two natures, God and human. What is wrong with the human nature of Jesus praying to His Father in heaven??
Jesus did not pray to himself. He always prayed to the Father IN HEAVEN. He always made a distinction between himself and the Father. Such as when a man called him 'good' and he answered, "Why do you call ME good? There is but ONE Good, my Father in Heaven" Neither could GOD die on the Cross, or die at all! If God died, we all and all life would cease to exist since God is our life source! This is also why Jesus cried from the cross, "My God , My God, why have you forsaken me?!" Because at the time of his death he took on himself the sins of the world, and God's Spirit departed from him. But as we know He returned in 3 days. Jesus was "God in the Flesh" and I will explain this. THIS is why he told his disciples "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father." All prophets had a portion of God's Spirit. But as John the Baptist testified, God did not give Yeshua the Spirit by measure, He had the FULLNESS of God's Spirit. So he was filled with God and was God in the flesh. Just as a light bulb is full of light, and we see the light, but the bulb is not the Source of the light. The Electricity is the source of the light,and the Spirit was the source of Jesus' Light! We saw GOD in Him! He testified that he did NOT even speak his own words, but spoke what he heard from the Father. And also that he did Not do the miracles, The Father did them. He was Totally yielded to God's Spirit within. He and his Father were ONE. (Not three). He also prayed that his people be ONE with Him as he is One with God. We are when we are born of water and the Holy Spirit. Then we are one with Christ. This does not mean we ARE Christ himself, anymore than it meant Christ was God Himself.
Yes. They don’t realise they are contradicting themselves. They are talking about 3 Gods. If they just stick to the simple truth in the bible, it is clear, only ONE Almighty God and Father, source of life. Ps 36:9
To all those on this feed, one of guys I often share bible topic with, verbalized that he felt I am lost. If that is your feelings as well, I want to thank you for your concern. I take consultation in one scripture. John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. The passage above denotes the things we need things we need to do to gain everlasting life. To take knowledge of Jehovah and Jesus. No where in the passage does it speak of three. Nor does it require me to take in knowledge of a trinity. Thanks for you loving concern.
_Who is the liar, if it is not the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, who denies the Father and the Son._ - 1 John 2.22 _Whoever transgresses and doesn't remain in the teaching of Christ, doesn't have God. He who remains in the teaching, the same has both the Father and the Son._ - 2 John 1.9 _Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God. For many false prophets have gone out into the world._ - 1 John 4.1 _8'These people draw near to me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9And in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrine rules made by men.'"_ - Matthew 15.8-9 _13But he answered, "Every plant which my heavenly Father didn't plant will be uprooted. 14Leave them alone. They are blind guides of the blind. If the blind guide the blind, both will fall into a pit."_ - Matthew 15.13-14 _17Now I beg you, brothers, look out for those who are causing the divisions and occasions of stumbling, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and turn away from them. 18For those who are such don't serve our Lord, Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by their smooth and flattering speech, they deceive the hearts of the innocent._ - Romans 16.17-18 _3If anyone teaches a different doctrine, and doesn't consent to sound words, the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, 4he is conceited, knowing nothing, but obsessed with arguments, disputes, and word battles, from which come envy, strife, insulting, evil suspicions, 5constant friction of people of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. Withdraw yourself from such._ 1 Timothy 6.3-5
How prophetic this is, did you even know 2 years ago when you typed this, how EVIDENT it would be in 2022. I keep wondering “how can they NOT see it?” About so much going on in the world, vaccines, POTUS, Russia about to invade Ukraine, human trafficking, 5G, underwater volcano eruptions, masks, and so on.
Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit as it was in the beginning is now and ever shall be, world without end, amen, take that you sebalianists and arianists. The glory that belongs God belongs to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit now and forevermore.
what i am and who i am is still me... its not two different persons. fully man and fully human at the same time? trinity is one of *the* most confusing aspects of Christianity and it is near impossible to explain in a logical manner.
He is one in essence and three in persons (= The word ‘Person’ is here used in the sense of ‘self with a particular function.’ See, ‘The Illustrated Bible Dictionary’ by F.F. Bruce, IVP Leicester, 1962, see ‘person’)
MrTruthing I have a problem with using the explanation that you used, which is a common trinity definition of God. My problem is that it’s not written that way in scripture and that Jesus nor his disciples ever proclaimed or preached that. It’s almost like saying that people beyond the life of him or his disciples and apostles have a better explanation of who Jesus and God is. I think I’ll just stick with quoting John 3:16 and not over complicate things unless the Lord shows me otherwise!
@@ctglenn1 I can understand your problem. However, please do not fall into the exact word fallacy. For example, just because the Queen of the UK never said, "I am the Queen, bow before me," does not mean she is not the Queen and we should not bow before her in respect. Both these things become clear when you read about the Queen. Similarly, while you are right that the word "Trinity" is not written in the Bible, the concept of it clearly is. Thomas said to Jesus, "My Lord and my God" and worshiped him. The Holy Spirit is called God in Acts 5: 3-4 etc. So I encourage you to trust in the offical teaching of the Church when it comes to the Trinity. Jesus said the when the Holy Spirit comes he will lead you into all truth. The disciples had many problems and did not understand why Jesus had to die and raise until afterwards. The doctrine of the Trinity arose later because the church had to defend itself against false teachings, once it became more established. Therefore, it is perfectly acceptable as a summary of a doctrine that is found in the Bible in numerous other places. If you would like to study this further I recomend reading this article here: christianityexplained.net/to/muslims/trinity-explained-muslims/ Please let me know your thoughts. Best wishes
"After my going away, men will arise and speak twisted things" ( Acts 20:29,30) "From amoung YOU" ( the leaders in the early church) This came true. Exactly what Paul prophesied. 200 'bishops' allowed the pagan emperor to convene them in his summer palace, 300 years AFTER the Holy bible was completed. It was HE who suggested the first phase of what was to become the established doctrine in the 'church'. He even enforced it with the threat of death if denied! Please people open your hearts to the truth, there is only ONE GOD, creator, father of all. Jesus is his subordinate Son! ( Eph 4:6 1 Cor 15:28)
@@Episcopalianacolyte I didnt actually say that. What happened was the question of the son & the Father's relationship was debated and discussed & argued over from around the latter half of the 2nd century onwards. Even long after, into the 4th & 5th century! But it was at Nicea that the 200 odd bishops a long debate in Constantine's summer palace ( why were they in such a place?) and finally a secular majority voted for 'homousious' ( Of the same substance ). While this did not mean in itself that the son & father were of necessity equel ( For a 'begotten son' and 'image of the Father' would be of the same substance as the father, hence some translations use 'the word was divine' and John's absence of the definite article before the second Theos (god) is recognised by greek grammertists as an 'anarthrous' noun, a DESCRIBING noun rather that a person.). Anyway it WAS then Constantine who took over and insisted ( they couldnt very well disagree!) who finally told them "Homousios' means Jesus IS God"" and that was indeed the forst OFFICIAL step in formally adopting the 'trinity'. ( Historians agree that it was in Constantine's interests to have as his new 'God' not a dead carpenter who died & was buried and now was only 'God's son'! But a 'God' who could lead his troups into battle! ( Thus the P X, banners & shields which were viewed as have magical powers ( see the battle of Malvern brodge 312AD). There is more info on this if you wish!
@@kiwihans100 what about the first century Christians? Are you sure that they didn't believe in the TRINITY. None of them did? Acording to the council documents, Constantine only called the council, he had no other role in it. Constantine had already converted by the time of the Council. So he wasn't pagan according to church historians.
@@Episcopalianacolyte I am Not a JW, Though I have read WT mags, catholic pubs, C.O.E books. Church history. 'The origin of religion, the development of creeds and faiths! e.t.c.. All very revealing and not to forget the BIBLE ( the best book of all!) I have a growing collection of various translations too as it is counterproductive to use just ONE translation ( which a number of faith's do!). Seek and you shall find!
@@Episcopalianacolyte Sorry! you have been misinformed! ( maybe by 'catholc' history!). Eusebius of Caesarea ( 260/5-339) wrote a detailed account of the Council of Nicea which raises many questions as to the direction of the Holy spirit in such a compromising situation! Actually the only 'evidence' for him being a Christian was his so called dream during which he saw a flaming 'cross' and the direction that "by this conqour". He had crosses emelished on all his soldiers shields and pagan emlem banners incorperating crosses and salid forth into battle killing many opposers! he also during the time it is claimed he was a 'Christian' had both his wife and Son murdered! His actual conversion is claimed to only have ocurred on his deathbed! My friend , our Lord said "By their fruits you will recognise men"! ( as for did the early church fathers beieve in a trinity, see the next reply). I base my belief not on any church creeds but just what the bible teaches! its there for you and me as I feel you have a strong faith!
God almighty operates in 3 offices just like a persons has three jobs under The same name. I am a father, son and I have I spirit/soul so am I three persons then?
@@rmatalanga that doctrine was developed by the same ones that persecuted Jesu Christ (the romans) Christ in John 10:30-33 30 I and my Father are one. 31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
@@rmatalanga so that eliminated the possibility of three. God deals with oneness. That stuff is no where in the holy scriptures the devils is behind this doctrine that sound so close to the truth but is motivated by a lie and confusion...peace be
Peace be upon u! ✳ Is Jesus(pbuh) God? Dr.Zakir Naik m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WI5Wga8_-so.html ✳Trinity Debunked-Sheikh Ahmed Deedat(Rah) m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vsDw4cWPk-E.html
First of all i'd like to apprise you that, i)Islam is the only non-Christian faith, which makes it an article of faith to believe in Jesus (pbuh). No Muslim is a Muslim if he does not believe in Jesus (pbuh). (ii) We believe that he was one of the mightiest Messengers of Allah (swt). (iii) We believe that he was born miraculously, without any male intervention, which many modern day Christians do not believe. (iv) We believe he was the Messiah translated Christ (pbuh). (v) We believe that he gave life to the dead with God’s permission. (vi) We believe that he healed those born blind, and the lepers with God’s permission.
@@miladjabali4382 peace be upon you! Most of the Christians claim that Jesus(p buh) claimed divinity, infact if you read the Bible there is not a single unambiguous statement in the complete Bible where Jesus(pbuh) himself says that "i am God" or "worship me". ⚛Infact if you read the Bible,he said in the, ✳Gospel of John 14:28 "...my Father is greater than I". ✳Gospel of John 10:29 "My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; ✳In Matthew 12:28 "But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God" ✳Luke 11:20 "But if I with the finger of God cast out devils.." ⚛And in John 5:30, "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me". Anyone who says i seek not my will but the will of Almighty God he is a Muslim, so Jesus Christ(pbuh) submitted his will to God, he was a Mulsim. Muslim means a person who submits his/her will to God Almighty. ⚛And God will never say that, "I can of mine own self do nothing" And it's even clearly mentioned in Acts 2:22, "Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:" "a man approved of God" " by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him" 🔹Moses(pbuh) said in Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:" 🔹Jesus(pbuh) said in Mark 12:29 "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:" He says, "..The Lord our God.." ✳ He includes even himslef when he is saying this, so he too has a God, since God can't have another God, Jesus(pbuh) is not God. ✳John 17:3 "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." This is a 2 in 1, where he himslef says, "thee the only true God,.." He is NOT saying "i am the only true God" And he also says, "..whom thou hast sent." See how clearly he says that he is being sent, which means he was a messenger of God. ⚛Note the startling resemblance between the two languages(Hebrew & Arabic) very often the same sounding words carry identical meaning in both, HEBREW ARABIC ENGLISH Elah Ilah god Ikhud Ahud one Yaum Yaum day Shaloam Salaam peace Yahuwa Ya Huwa oh he ✳YHWH or Yehova or Yahuwa all mean the very same thing. "Ya" is a vocative and an exclamatory particle in both Hebrew and Arabic, meaning Oh! And "Huwa" or "Hu" means He, again in both Hebrew and Arabic. Together they mean Oh He! So instead of YHWH ELOHIM, we now have Oh He! ELOHIM. El in Hebrew means god, and Elah or Eloh also stands for the same name - god. Therefore, "Huwa el Elah" or HUWA 'L LAH, which is identical to the Quranic expression - Huwal lah hu (meaning: HE IS ALLAH) of the verse QUL HUWAL LAH HU AHUD: Qur'an 112:01 "Say: He is Allah, The One and Only. So worship the True God Allah, the God of Jesus(pbuh) & accept the last & final messenger of Allah, prophet Muhammad(pbuh), who is even prophesied in Deut.18:18-22, Isaiah 29:12, 42, John 1:21-25, 14:16, 15:26, 16:7 & 16:12-14, to succeed in both the worlds. May Allah guide us Aameen.
***John 8:57-58 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?” Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” >>> ***John 6:45-47 "It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me. Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father. Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life." >>> ***John 14:8-9 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father." >>> ***John 20:26-29 And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” >>> ***Revelation 21:5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.” And He said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. >>> ***Genesis 32:28 And He said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel; for you have struggled with God and with men, and have prevailed.” >>> ***Zechariah 12:10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. __________________________________
So the term "God" in the Bible is a reference to a species, just as we are "human"? Why do we then limit the species of God to only include three Persons since the Bible does not clarify how many Persons are in this "species"? Finally, if God is a reference to a kind of life, what sense does it make for God to say that he is the only God; that he knows of no other God other than Himself; and especially that there is no other God than He? If I were to claim that there is no other human than me, how would you interpret that?
"Why'd He pray to Himself?" Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up His eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. And I knew that thou hearest me always: but *because of the people which stand by I said it,* that they may believe that thou hast sent me. (John 11:41-42 KJV) Also, in John 12:30, He explains that the voice is for US, not Him. To bottom line it: Jesus the man prays to the One who lives within who is, yes, Himself. "Why did he say there's only one true God which is the father?" We should consider the very distinct possibility that the Jews of then would hear Him in a very different way than our anglo/western ears of this time do. In John 10 He explains how NO ONE can pluck His sheep out of HIS hand first and THEN His Father's hand, thus making His hand the same hand as that of the Father's (as in, "he that has seen me has seen the father") and in other places He would say He does ONLY what the Father does. To say that is to say you are very God, hence their taking up to stones to kill Him for blasphemy in chap. 10:31. Think about it, if ANYONE were to say they do ONLY those things that God does (as in, what He's doing this very moment), what else could that be but to claim to be God? John 5:19 has Him saying “Most certainly, I tell you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father doing. For whatever things He does, these the Son also does likewise." So, are there TWO people doing TWO things? No, it is ONE God doing things IN that man - the man God became. Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I tell you, I speak not from myself; but the Father who lives in me does His works. (John 14:10 WEB) For they can’t die any more, for they are like the angels, and are children of God, BEING THE CHILDREN OF THE RESURRECTION. (Luke 20:36 WEB) If you believe what Jesus says in John 11:25, then your are His child - being a child of the Resurrection. God bless you & keep seeking. He WILL be found..
@@The-F.R.E.E.-J. Don't know to what extent my logic can overlap yours, you can check out.....Jesus is the ONLY ONE NOW EXISTING GOD, He is ALONE in heaven, God is not there ("No one has ever seen God"). Evidence is also given by Lucifer: if God were in heaven, Lucifer were there too, the latter is not definitely fool to fight against the almighty God. The ALMIGHTY GOD IS IN THE PAST INSTEAD, perfectly alive and almighty from there. For logical reasons the almighty God cannot be here: He can be here with us now only in the form of a "normal man" i.e. like God the Son. Thus, the almighty God - after finalizing his work (before the start of the world) - forsook his power to become like a "normal man" and came with us. The Holy Spirit is no "third God": by Him we just refer once again to the same almighty God in an alternative way: we can say that God -however only in the form of a Spirit - is NOW here with us. (At the river Jordan the Holy Spirit just SAYS " you are my beloved Son...."). Jesus has a relationship with "Himself", however, as far as POWER is concerned, Jesus is a normal man whilst God is the almighty God. That relationship is NOT always SUBORDINATE as it appears : "The Father loves the Son and has given ALL THINGS into His hand."
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one thing I really dont understand is how people use the comment section to debate on this kind of topic, if you see the video teaching something you dont like or agree with by now you must have learned that all people do is ridicule your comment and never really get transformed by it. Write your comment if they give you some kind of counter argument i suggest you dont make a point of typing your fingers off like Jesus says wash your hands and simply say May God bring his wander light of revelation through his word to you simple
2 Timothy 2:15 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. ..............How do you know nobody has been transformed by anything posted here. { Faith Generated by hearing the word } John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets’ witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God. { Faith Is } Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. { Faith Is Indispensable in reaching God } Hebrews 11:6 1 Timothy 1:5 But without faith it is impossible to please him; for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned: Roman 14:23 For whatsoever is not of faith is sin. ..............I have had a lot more people then i would ever have expected tell me, "thanks your posts cleared some misconceptions i had." Hebrews 4:12 "For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart" Isaiah 55:11 So is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it. In His Service,
A rope is composed of three strands. If one unravels it a little, one will see the three strands that remain a single rope composed of three strands. The three strands are similar, but not the same, they are individual strands forming a rope. They are one in nature, character and objective.
Trinity at the BAPTISM OF JESUS: Matthew 3:16,17 Jesus (Second Person of the Trinity) is baptized, the spirit of God descends upon Him like a dove (THIRD Person of the Trinity) and a voice from heaven saying, "This is My beloved Son (FIRST Person of the Trinity) in whom I am well pleased" FATHER+ SON + HOLY SPIRIT.....TOGETHER at the BAPTISM.
i would like to everybody to go to google and write "English to hebrew" and write Elohim on english and you will see אלוהים this and than write on google "Hebrew to arabic" and write אלוהים on hebrew and than you will see your creator.
The Holy Trinity can be comprehended but not perfectly, because our mind cannot contain the entirety. Frank Sheed's "Theology and Sanity" provides the best written explanation of the Trinity and I recommend it for people seeker to delve deeper
no but seriously.... its really simple. John 4:24 says god is a SPIRIT. we needed him to die for us in order to be saved. How can God die, if he is a spirit? How can God shed his blood if he has no blood?. Col 1:15! He manifested himself in flesh (JESUS) who was created from the beginning, Rev 3:14. Read Acts 20:28, He purchased us with his own blood. Jesus said to baptise in the name of the "FATHER SON AND HOLY GHOST"(mat 28:19) but the Apostles baptised in JESUS name (Acts 2:38) ? WHY? Because they were intimate with him. If I told you to baptise in the name of "THE SON OF ROBERT, THE BROTHER OF JAHRAN, AND THE ONE WITH CURLY HAIR" what name will you baptise in? YOU DONT KNOW! you're not intimate with my family, and you don't know that is my brother, Jumaine! You were not as close to God as the Apostles, who identified the father son and spirit as Jesus!! He is the father, because he created all things (John 1) He is the son because he is the IMAGE of God (John 3:16, 1 John 3:16, 1 Tim 3:16) - Direct creation of God (John 1:14) He is the Spirit because he is dwelling in you (Rom 8:9) You need to be intimate with God to know who he is! The trinity only became an idea in 325 AD! The Roman Catholic church created the trinity in order to incorporate PAGANISM into Christianity. 2 CORINTHIANS 11:14.... Be careful who you believe Good luck!
+Billie Jean Sturdivant, Excuse me? That is as Perverted a statement as Trinity is. YESHUA aka JESUS was the SON OF GOD" The WORD made FLESH. The SON DIED on the Cross, Not God or God's "Flesh" God is Spirit and has NO flesh. Yeshua rose because GOD resurrected him, spirit and flesh BOTH.
Billie Jean Sturdivant The Trinity explained at last...lol The Trinity teaches that God asked himself to go to earth to save mankind.Then he agreed with himself and volunteered himself to himself to offer himself. Then God impregnated a women as himself, with himself. God prayed to himself and glorified himself repeatedly. God strengthened himself and talked to himself. Finally God forsook himself and sacrificed himself to prove his loyalty to himself. While dead he resurrected himself so he could exalt himself above himself. Then he sat at his own right hand and waited till he placed his enemies at his foot stool.Finally with Satan's forced defeated, God would turn his kingdom over to himself that all things would become everything to himself.
***John 8:57-58 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?” Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” >>> ***John 6:45-47 "It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me. Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father. Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life." >>> ***John 14:8-9 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father." >>> ***John 20:26-29 And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” >>> ***Revelation 21:5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.” And He said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. >>> ***Genesis 32:28 And He said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel; for you have struggled with God and with men, and have prevailed.” >>> ***Zechariah 12:10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. __________________________________
John 17 Verses 10,11 and 12: JESUS Prays for His Disciples. All I have is yours, and all you have is mine; and my glory is shown through them (Disciples). And now I AM coming to you; I am no longer in the World, but they are in the World. Holy Father! Keep them safe by the POWER of your NAME, the NAME you gave ME, so that they may be ONE just as you and I are ONE. While I was with them, I kept them safe by the POWER of your NAME, the NAME you gave me.
Please explain how there are so many different Jesus Christs.. a southern Baptist jesus Christ. A Mormon Jesus Christ. A seventh day Adventist Jesus Christ. A Christian science Jesus Christ. A Russian orthodox Jesus Christ. Add all these thousands of different Jesus Christs up along with the other 2 gods in the trinity... and u have Hinduism.
Whosoever allegedly said that on the cross confirmed himself to be unfaithful. Psalm 37:28 For the LORD loves justice and will NOT abandon his faithful ones. They are kept safe forever, but the children of the wicked will be destroyed. ****** About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out with a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani ? " that is, "My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?" *********** What an amazing "willing" sacrifice that he points a finger at God. Blasphemes against God when the crunch time came. Even a county soldier gives up his life with a million times more dignity than this so-called "willing" person. A counter soldier does not point a finger at his ranks and his country. ******** The LORD will NOT ABANDON His faithful ones VS The person on the cross allegedly Jesus Christ was abandoned ******** So an UNFAITHFUL to LORD died for the sins of our Christian brethren.
You're referring to the following verse - >>> ***Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” >>> Jesus is not saying that God forsake Him. He's calling attention to the following verse - >>> ***Psalm 22:1 My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me? Why are You so far from helping Me, And from the words of My groaning? >>> If you read the entire Psalm it is a detailed prophecy of the sacrifice of Jesus. >>> He's saying "I did not forsake you. I kept my promise."
◑ To Jesus: who are you ?? “I am a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God.” John 8:40 ◑ To the Disciples: who is Jesus? “Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.” Acts 2:22 ◑ To the people: who is Jesus ?? “He was a prophet who did powerful miracles, and he was a mighty teacher in the eyes of God and all the people.” Luke 24:19 ◑ To Paul: who is Jesus ?? “Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body.” Colossians 2:9 To Jesus: what do you teach ?? “‘I want you to show mercy, not offer sacrifices.’ For I have come to call not those who think they are righteous, but those who know they are sinners.” “I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.” Luke 5:32 ◑ To the Disciples: what did Jesus taught?? “Now repent of your sins and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped away.” Acts 3:19 ◑ To Paul: what did Jesus teach?? “Christ died for our sins” 1 Corinthians 15:3 ◑ To Jesus: to whom you were sent ?? “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.” Matthew 15:24 ◑ To the Disciples: what Jesus instructed ?? “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.” Matthew 10:6 ◑ To Paul: Why did you go to the Gentiles ?? “It has always been my ambition to preach the gospel where Christ was not known, so that I would not be building on someone else’s foundation.” Romans 15:20 ◑ to Paul: do you mean the Disciples?? “I don’t consider myself inferior in any way to these “super apostles” who teach such things. I may not be a trained speaker, but I do have knowledge. We have made this perfectly clear to you in every way.” 2 Corinthians 11:6 ◑ To Jesus: did you came to abolish the law ?? “Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. “Matt. 5:17,18 ◑ To Paul: what do you say about that?? “Jesus abolished in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.” Eph. 2:15 “Christ is the end of the law, that every one who has faith may be justified.” Rom. 10:4 ◑ To the Disciples: Is man Justified by faith alone?? “man is justified by works and not by faith alone.” James 2:24 ◑ To Paul: what do you say about that ?? “man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.” Romans 3:28 ◑ To Paul: so you contradict the disciples of Jesus ?? “When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong.” Galatians 2:11 ◑ To Paul: so what do you say about their teachings ?? “If we or an angel from heaven preach any other Gospel to you than what we (Paul and his disciples) have preached to you let him be a curse ” Gal 1:8 ◑ To Paul: why do you say that?? “all those in Asia have turned away from me” 2 Tim. 1:15 ◑to the Disciples: did you rejected Paul?? “When he came to Jerusalem, he tried to join us, but we were all afraid of him, not believing that he really was a disciple.” Acts 9:26 result: Paul is a corrupter of Jesus' messege
STOP giving illustrations about the so called "trinity" because all you will do is fall into heresy. The water, ice, and vapor illustration, for example, closely resembles modalism which is that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are simply 3 modes of God which was deemed a heresy. Another common illustration given, the egg. Father, Son, and HOLY Spirit, egg white, egg shell, egg yolk but still one egg is a terrible illustration because it represents the heresy of partialism which claims that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are simply parts of God. the Holy Spirit is simply God's spirit or the Father's Spirit. The Bible says that God is a Spirit but what kind of spirit is He? He is Holy therefore the Holy Spirit. And Since Mary conceived through the Holy Spirit that makes the Holy Spirit the Father of Jesus. do you not realize that the trinity is a concept that was made in the Council of Nicaea? The trinity is not real, nor was it taught by any of the disciples. 1 John 5:7 for example was ADDED to the Bible to support the trinity. What most versions read is "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Spirit and these three are one" when in reality the original manuscripts read "For there are three that bear record in heaven the water, blood and Spirit and these three agree". Do your research and stop believing everything that apologist , theologians and pastors tell you and go search for yourself.
@@viviennebaptiste I'm not a catholic trinitarian. I'm a biblical trinitarian. The father, his living WORD and spirit of holiness. All three are one. Not 3 persons. Mary didnt conceive by a miracle. Its an allegory. Smh!! All people begotten of Gods living word and spirit are the Son of God which is the Israel of God. Ex. 4:22, Hosea 11:1, Jer. 2:3. We are begotten of Gods word and spirit. James 1:18, I Peter 1:3 kjv. The christ (spoken word and spirit of God) formed IN YOU is the hope of glory. We are all born of the virgin (GENTILE BRIDE). It has nothing to do with a miracle birth. The miracle is when YOU are begotten of Gods word and spirit, the new birth, the resurrection from eternal death, a new creation. Most people don't understand the bible.
In minutes! Christian theologians have been trying to explain or even convince themselves with trinity for two millennia. We as humans are blessed with logical thinking. And as so we are responsible for our decisions and the most important of these decisions is to believe or not. So if you cannot use logic to get to God, neither can you use your senses, then this is senseless. The different sides of a cube are different squares. They're all square but different ones yet if one goes away the remaining squares will outline the missing one... bad analogy. "Say, Allah is the One, [and only]. Allah is the Absolute. He has not begotten [any] nor has He been begotten. And there is none equal to Him." Quraan 114
Sami Mas did you realize you put logic higher than God? According to what you say God has to abide by logic, the very logic that was created by Him in the first place.
@@alr.3137 In Islam, one of The God's names is The Just. Is he limited by justice then? No. Justice is an attribute of him. God is logic how is he limited by it? Our brains are created to perceive God through logic that he has implanted through out this universe. It all has laws; everything run with atmost precision and follows strict rules. How are we to know God but through his creation which follow logic. You know a painter by his painting. If they have strong colors that tells you about his feelings or his personality or what he is trying to convey. Same with God look all around you every thing follows logic then how's God illogical? If God cannot be perceived with the senses and neither with logic, then how to know God? How is that fair?
@@samimas4343 thank you for replying. This explanation however does not fit with miracles that are part of Islam as well. Muhammad flying on Buraq to the 7 heavens, Mary's virgin birth, Moses splitting the red sea, Muhammad splitting the Moon and of course Jesus walking on water, healing cripled and blind people... all these things go against logic if you think about it - yet without these miracles there would not really be a point in believing in God. If you can't believe in miracles, then you can't really believe in God. I personally am agnostic to the concept of the Trinity and I just regard myself as a monotheist. However I do not rule out that God has the might to break the rules of logic for he made logic in the first place.
God should be easy to understand by all age groups and in all scenarios. The trinity is based off of some Roman mythology that's really hard to comprehend just as the birth of Jesus.
false ***John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. >>> ***John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. >>> -In the name of King Jesus who is the Christ open your eyes and understand. >>> -John 1:14 tells us that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and that the word was the only begotten (Son) of the Father. The Word = Jesus. >>> -John 1:1 tells us that the Word (Jesus) was with God, and ... "the word was God." >>> -And how did the Word (Jesus) come to Earth from the Father? >>> ***Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. >>> -the Child of Who? "the Child of the Holy Spirit." -And Who is Jesus the Son of ? God the Father. -And once more Who was with God and is God? The Word Who is Jesus. >>> -Who do you baptize in the name of? The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit.
-Need more? >>> ***Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. >>> -"Unto us a Son is given, and He will be called ... Mighty God, Everlasting Father...".
-You say "How can God be 3 in 1? But God Himself has told you it is so. Do you not believe in the power of God? >>> ***Genesis 1:27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. >>> -In His own image. No one else's image. Only His. Man was created in the image of God. >>> ***Genesis 1:26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” >>> -"Let us make man in Our image." God is an Our. .
the problem is that he is not using any reference from the bible, if he did he would not have that beautifull smile. God from Moses prespective :"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one."Deutronomy 6:4 God from Jesus prespective:""The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one". I mean you may reply to this and say yes ! yes I agree that god is one, but in thre personalites, then what reference from the bible could you use to back up this false doctrine.
Yahya EL ALAMI there are many verses in the bible if you would just remove the scales off of your eyes and see!!! If God is not 3 in 1, and existed within himself until creation, how can he know what love is? Did God begin to love at the beginning of creation? Or did he love throughout eternity? If so who did he love?
Jonathan Lozada I mean yeah there is a lot of ambiguous verses from which you can see this doctrin, but if my and your salvation depends upon that, jesus, moses, isaih, david, they have to say it clearly and without ambiguity, when jesus answered the learned men of the scribes, did he told him that ?: "The first commandement of all, is to believe that there are three that bear record in heaven, the father, the son, the spirit, and those three are one" ? No
Yahya EL ALAMI the idea of God in fellowship with himself begins in genesis... in Genesis 1:24 God says "Let US make man in OUR image." He wasn't talking to angels because it's obvious that angels are not responsible for making/creating anything. But we do know that Jesus does, according to colossians 1:15.
Jonathan Lozada well the satan was God in 2 Corinthians 4:4, and jesus called The jews Gods, ans god said to moses : "Behold I have made you a God to pharoh", God in the jewish langage don't stand every time for GOD the creator.
There is no division of religions in Heaven. Maybe he is a secret Christian. Some people cannot tell their family for fear of shunning or being killed.
If you read (and watch that excellent video again) VERY carefully to the following, praying that God would help you to understand his language you will be surprised by joy and awe! You will worship God in the only way acceptable to him: God is 3 in one. What does that mean? The solution to the confusion is how you define the use of numbers like 3 and 1. For example, think of the advert: "There is only one sale. Harrods." It means: The Harrods store sale is unique but there are many more sales. Similarly, when the Bible says, God is one, it means that he is unique: He is one in essence and three in persons (= The word ‘Person’ is here used in the sense of ‘self with a particular function.’ See, ‘The Illustrated Bible Dictionary’ by F.F. Bruce, IVP Leicester, 1962, see ‘person’) The one in essence answers the question, what: God The three persons answer the question: who: Father, Son and Holy Spirit in a spiritual, not physical sense. Similarly you can ask: What are you? Answer: A human being. Who are you? Answer: a husband, father, doctor. There is no contradiction. The more dimensions one adds the more complex something becomes (C. S. Lewis) God is one in one sense and three in another. Majesty and mystery.
If you understand Hebrew then you will notice in Deut 6:4 ''the Lord is ONE'' the word used for One is NOT the numerical one which is Yachid (sorry no Hebrew alphabet on my laptop). But the Holy Spirit used the word Echad which in English means ''a unified one'' or a ''compound unity''. In Genesis (Bereshet) 1:26 ''God said let US make man in our image''. Did you notice in Hebrew it's in the Masculine Plural tense and NOT in Singular? Also in Genesis 1:2 ''the Spirit of God moved on the face of the waters'' in Hebrew it says ''vruarch elohim'' - again in masculine plural. It can be clearly demonstrated from the very first chapter of the Torah that God is a Tri-Unity (not a Trinity which is Roman Catholic teaching and is derived from 3 in Latin). These are just some of the references you asked for from the Bible - there are many more in Hebrew which sometimes don't come out correctly in English translations.
Numbers 23:19 King James Version (KJV) God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
John 14:28 The father is greater than I am John 20: 17 I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God... Matt 3:17 This is my son the beloved whom I have approved Matt 16:16 Simon Peter answered: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Your confusing yourself, the Bible says it plainly.
There is no explicit doctrine of the trinity in the New testament if so it would’ve been the duty of Christ to expound upon it when he was point blank by a Jewish theologian what is the greatest commandment Jesus answered, "Hear, O Israel! The Lord Our God, The Lord is One; The trinity verse was added to the bible, a very well documented historical fact and for your guide please refer to book titled whose word is it? Who changed the new testament and why by professor Bart Ehrman who is an expert on textual criticism on biblical manuscripts On the 16th century Erasmus was a Dutch scholar who produced the very first printed of the Greek new testament, the new testament itself was written in Greek and centuries after got translated into Latin and the church tends to use the Latin translation, Erasmus produced a text in the original Greek which he hoped will be a critical scholarly addition which is called the first published edition Indeed as it turns out these manuscripts that Erasmus used were Not of the best quality they were after all produced some eleven hundred years after the originals for example the main manuscripts that Erasmus used for the gospels contained both the story of the woman taken in adultery in John’s gospel and the last verses in Mark’s gospel which tell the story of the resurrection in the earlier gospel passages that did not originally from part of the gospels as we learned in the preceding chapter and rightly shows that the that the earliest manuscripts the codex sinaiticus for example does not contain any resurrection appearances in the earliest gospel in the new testament the gospel of Mark there was one key passage of of scripture that Erasmus sources manuscripts did not contain however,this the account of 1 John 5 verse 7 and 8. and this the first letter of John in the new testament chapter 5 verses 7 to 8 which scholars have called The story of textus receptus which is still venerated by fundamentalist Christians especially in the United States the King James version only movement saying this is the pure unadulterated word of God but of course it’s base on late medieval manuscripts we have manuscripts now go back even to the fourh century AD the codex santiaticus famously which of course dose not have the johannine comma it dosen’t have the story of that woman caught in adultery it dosn’t have the resurrection appearances in the earliest gospel and many other things …. This is the story of how the famous Trinity verse which openly explicitly states that God is three persons in one is in fact a fake verse added in later by scribes and it is not part of the original Greek manuscript. I know it’s very difficult for you to except because it means your most solid witness for the trinity has been taken away and you have to now construct the doctrine out of a complicated situation creating this fake doctrine and it’s very unpersuasive to most people. The new revised standard version dose not have the Trinity verse because it’s a good critical edition, but the Trinity verse is in the new king James version they know the fact but they have the verse in it even though we know that it is not in any of the early Greek manuscripts and it was not there in the original bible they still insist on keeping it in the bible. I personally think this fraud and it lacks integrity and they’re still trying to pass this off as God’s word when you know for well it is not. O People of the Book! Do not go to extremes regarding your faith; say nothing about Allah except the truth.1 The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger of Allah and the fulfilment of His Word through Mary and a spirit ˹created by a command˺ from Him.2 So believe in Allah and His messengers and do not say, “Trinity.” Stop!-for your own good. Allah is only One God. Glory be to Him! He is far above having a son! To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And Allah is sufficient as a Trustee of Affairs. Quran 4:171
false. >>> ***Matthew 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, >>> ***1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. >>> ***2 Corinthians 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the Love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Amen.
One individual God, one message and many prophets. God does Godly things and doesn’t change his mind. The person who sins is the one who will die. The child will not be punished for the parent’s sins, and the parent will not be punished for the child’s sins. Righteous people will be rewarded for their own righteous behavior, and wicked people will be punished for their own wickedness. Ezekiel 18:20 Please carefully go back and read the Hebrew Scriptures Jeremiah 31. The developed teaching over the years of the New Testament is a foreign teaching invented by Paul. He’s lead millions and millions of Christians to worship a man ( idol worshippers) it’s an abominations to even begin to think that god came down to earth as a man, he created man and knows exactly what he created. it’s better for you to repent from Christianity and be saved not by Jesus but by God before it’s too late. Praying to allegedly man God won’t get to heaven ❤️
This is all foreign teaching invented by Paul and it’s leading millions and millions of Christians to a not very nice place. Jesus did not die for anyone’ sins Deuteronomy 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. Furthermore; The soul that asinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bbear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the crighteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. ezekiel 18:20 It specifically says repent and God forgive you. ----------------- One God, one message and many prophets. Hosea 11:9 I am God and not a man. Jesus was a Jew and came to the Jews and was circumcised, he wasn’t white man with a blue eyes and blonde hair as was portrayed in Hollywood movies. Thank you.
@@momooya2881 That narrative has been debunked so many times. This is a false narrative pushed by muslims and other cults. This story comes from the fact that a few copies of the original Greek manuscripts did not contain the rest of that chapter of Mark. The reason being was that the person copying them had died. This left a few copies unfinished. Later (about the 1940s) someone found the unfinished copies and tried to imply that every other copy made was fake and that someone had added in the extra verses. Some Bibles even marked these verses as being questionable. Luckily much older manuscripts were found that included all the whole chapter including the "questionable verses." >>> The legitimacy of this verse also depends on the rest of the Bible. Is it backed up anywhere else in the Bible? Yes. It is supported from the beginning to the end.
Sir you sound confused how can you be one and God be three and still be in his image come on Sir this is nonsense God is not a unity of three, the Devil believe there’s one God singular Why don’t you?
@@tiffanywright6653 Well most people explain the Trinity wrong. God is invisible and when he speaks his word is Christ. Christ is his word. The holy spirit is the LOVE of God. This is God he is love and he is the word and he is the Invisible creator
@@andrewchase6748 (deuteronomy 6:4) our lord is 1 not no 3 in 1 triune God head.. (Mark 12:29) jesus quoted the (Shema) important our Lord is (1) not no 3 in 1 Godhead. (1st corethians 11:3) God is Head of Christ.. Bible head system and trinity is not even mentioned or the (HOLY SPIRIT) (John 14:28) Jesus says Father is (Greater) then him not equal Trinity.. The trinity is False made up by (Satan the Devil) who is controlling the World right now (1st john 5:19).
It's not an earthly father and son as you would think. that is only said to make it easier for people to digest. Try telling people that God has 3 parts that are separate. They can't comprehend it. They lose their minds. The get confused and angry.
A question for trinitarians: Most New Testament letters have opening statements such as "Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ." ALL these opening statements INCLUDE God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ but ALL OF THEM LEAVE OUT the holy spirit. NONE of the introductions has a statement that includes the holy spirit. Why do you suppose that is?
It's perfectly correct: only the Father and the Son exist , the Holy Spirit is just an alternative way to see once again God the Father, because God now exists only as a spirit "God is a spirit" "(John, somewhere)...That is, the reality of God is dualitarian, not trinitarian... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-blZOBgtD5D8.html
That's a good question. They all speak of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, but most of their greetings only include Father and Son. Not sure why they always leave out the Holy Spirit. >>> There is one greeting that has all three though. >>> ***1 Peter 1:1-2 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To the pilgrims of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace to you and peace be multiplied. >>> *foreknowledge of God the Father, *sanctification of the Spirit, *obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ." >>> And 2 Corinthians ends with all three. >>> ***2 Corinthians 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Amen.
***John 8:57-58 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?” Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” >>> ***John 6:45-47 "It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me. Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father. Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life." >>> ***John 14:8-9 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father." >>> ***John 20:26-29 And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” >>> ***Revelation 21:5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.” And He said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. >>> ***Genesis 32:28 And He said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel; for you have struggled with God and with men, and have prevailed.” >>> ***Zechariah 12:10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. __________________________________
John 14:28 New International Version (NIV) 28 “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I Jesus says his father is greater. Boom. Trinity is a false pagan teaching.
Congratulations. On the most fundamental doctrine you have a position closer to the very doctrine of Jesus Christ. Away from the abomination of the doctrine of the Trinity.
The very words that the Father - THE ONLY TRUE GOD - COMMANDED Jesus Christ to say. The doctrine of THE ONLY TRUE GOD that HE COMMANDED Jesus Christ to give. The testimony of Jesus Christ on the Father: - The Only True God (John 17:3) - The Only One Who Knows The Hour (Mark 13:32) - Greater than I (John 14:28) - Greater than all (John 10:29) - My God and Your God (John 20:17) The doctrine of Jesus Christ = The doctrine of a Muslim. (Of course the term Father in the Jewish context. A figure of speech for their times. NOT that the Father has a literal Son. God has got Son by the Ton in the Bible.
That doesn't mean what you think it means. >>> ***John 8:57-58 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?” Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” >>> ***John 6:45-47 "It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me. Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father. Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life." >>> ***John 14:8-9 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father." >>> ***John 20:26-29 And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” >>> ***Revelation 21:5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.” And He said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. >>> ***Genesis 32:28 And He said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel; for you have struggled with God and with men, and have prevailed.” >>> ***Zechariah 12:10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn.
I would like to present a possibility for your consideration. What if over thousands of years Satan has distorted the true identity of God? What if it was not supposed to be a concept that we cannot fathom as you present in your video. What if God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are truly three separate beings?
William Haltom, no problem with that, all we have to do is find a way to scrub the Old Testament out of the Bible and embrace everything the Vatican spews at us. Adam walked with God and he was a monotheist. Abraham had a meal with Him, and two of His angels, and he believed and knew that God is one. Jacob wrestled with Him and had ZERO NOTION of any sort of three-headed goblin called the trinity. Moses talked with God as a man talks with his friend and did not worship three people as God. And finally, every single one of the apostles who walked with the Lord Himself, where one God believing, monotheistic Jews. Other than that though, the pagan belief of the Trinity is all right, I guess...
The very words that the Father - THE ONLY TRUE GOD - COMMANDED Jesus Christ to say. The doctrine of THE ONLY TRUE GOD that HE COMMANDED Jesus Christ to give. The testimony of Jesus Christ on the Father: - The Only True God (John 17:3) - The Only One Who Knows The Hour (Mark 13:32) - Greater than I (John 14:28) - Greater than all (John 10:29) - My God and Your God (John 20:17) The doctrine of Jesus Christ = The doctrine of a Muslim. (Of course the term Father in the Jewish context. A figure of speech for their times)
Isaiah 42:8 48:11-12 {God will never share his glory} I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, and I will not give my glory unto another. I am he; I am the first, I also am the Last. Revelation 1: 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was and which is to come, the Almighty. Philippians 2:5-7 {of what did he empty himself} Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of man: {The Greek reads as follows} Who in form of God subsisting not rapinesteemed it to be equal with god; but himself emptied. John 14:28 {Jesus in human form occupies a lower position then the Father} "You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.'" Hebrews 2:9 {Jesus Humbled himself while walking among us} But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone Galatians 4:4 {Jesus set aside his divine nature to be born as a human} But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, John 17:5 {God shares his glory} {of his right to exercise his deity} And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. Matthew 28:18 {which he takes up after the resurrection} And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, all power {authority} is given (surrendered) unto me in heaven and in earth. Revelation 1: 11-14, 22:13, 16 {Jesus assumes his correct position GOD} 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: … 12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;… 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last… >> have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Revelation 1:17-18 {John states Jesus is the First and the Last?} And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, fear not; I am the first and last: I am he that liveth, and was…………….. Dead, and, behold, I am alive for evermore, A-men; and have the keys of hell and of death …..When did the First and the Last (GOD), the Beginning and the End (GOD), the Alpha and Omega (GOD) taste death? …..This explains how Jesus created all Hebrews 1:10 {The Father tells us the SON created all} And, Thou, Lord, {kurios} in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands. Colossians 1:16-17 {Jesus created all things} In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins. Who is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him. And for him: And he is before all things. And by him all things consist. John 1:1, 2,3,14 {John states} All things through him came into being, and without him came into being not even one [thing] which has come into being. And the Word flesh became, and tabernacled among us, In His Service,
It is still hard to explain. God is one in the form of three persons. The Father the Son and the Holy Spirit. Three separate beings, one God. All three coexist at the same time. The Father was in heaven when the Son was on the Earth. The Holy Spirit was also present on the Earth in the disciples as miracles were being performed by followers of Christ. In the old testament when God came to Earth in the form of a man. Was it Jesus or the Father? Which person of the trinity talked with Abraham. Which person of the Trinity wrestled with Jacob? Did Jesus come to the Earth before he was born or was it the Father. Is the face of God composed of the Father and the Son and the Spirit. Does God the trinity have one form? Or is it three separate forms. When Jesus prays to the Father and he does the will of the Father. He is serving the Lord our God. It sounds like the Father is above the Son. Jesus takes his orders from the Father. But, Jesus and the Father are God. You can see the difficulty in explaining the trinity. I just leave it to the Lord. The Lord is my God. He is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Jesus is my Lord and saviour. He is my God and King. He is the Son of God. He is God. The Holy spirit is the Spirit of God. I pray to the Father in Jesus name. I ask the Lord for forgiveness for my ignorance in understanding the trinity.
So you left the Catholic church because you didn't like these "types of explanations"? Did you research what you believed? A better reason for leaving would have been because of the homosexuality and pedophilia found in the priesthood. The catholic church has now admitted they have a problem with this.
@@canderssonswedican7486 , excellent point. No wonder the Catholic church has always kept people away from reading the Bible, for if people actually did read the Bible, they would find out that Adam walked with God and he was not a trinitarian. Jacob wrestled with God, and he was not a trinitarian. Abraham had a meal with God and he was not a trinitarian or any sort of polytheist. Moses spoke with God, face to face as a man speaks to his friend, and he was not a trinitarian. And finally, the disciples walked with God In the Flesh and not a single one of them was trinitarian or polytheistic, as the Catholic Church teaches, in any way whatsoever. All this can be found in the Bible, with the help of the Holy Spirit, so no one needs to seek these things from the Catholic church or the Protestants or any other organization of men and of devils.
When Adam walked with God who was he walking with, The Father of The Son ? When Jacob wrestled with God who was he wrestling with, The Father or The Son? When Moses spoke to God "face to face" who was he speaking to, The Father or the Son ? When Abraham was sharing a meal with God who was he, The Father or the Son ? "And finally, the disciples walked with God In the Flesh and not a single one of them was trinitarian or polytheistic, as the Catholic Church teaches, in any way whatsoever. " Then why do the apostles make the following comments ? John 20:28, 29 {Thomas calls Jesus God} And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. { o Kurios mou kai o Theos mou } the definite article. …..Does Jesus correct Thomas? No, he calls him blessed. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. Romans 9:5 {Paul calls Jesus GOD} Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen…NIV I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles believed on in the world, received up into glory. Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Titus 2:13 Looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus, Philippians 2:5-7 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of man: John 1:1, 2,3,14 {John calls Jesus God} In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word. He was in [the] beginning with God. All things through him came into being, and without him came into being not even one [thing] which has come into being. And the Word flesh became, and tabernacled among us, Matthew 1:23 (Matthew calls Jesus GOD} Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Acts 20:28 {Luke calls Jesus God} Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 2 Peter 1:1 {Peter calls Jesus God} Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours: Isaiah 7:14 {The Holy Spirit calls Jesus God} Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. And why does the Father make this comment? Hebrews 1:8 {the Father calls Jesus God} Psalm 45:6 But unto the Son he {God } saith, Thy throne, O God {Theos}, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom. Hebrews 1:6 {the Father tells the angels to worship Jesus} And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world he {God} saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Deuteronomy 6:13 {The Father said to worship only him} Fear the LORD your God, serve him only and take your oaths in his name. Yet Jesus sezs this, Luke 4:8 {Jesus said worship only God} And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and him only shalt thou serve The Holy Spirit sezs this, Daniel 7:13-14, (All will worship him by the Fathers degree) In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.” Exodus 3:13-14 (the Father states he is I AM THAT I AM) And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, what is his name? What shall I say unto them? And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. John 8:58 10:30-36 {John states Jesus said he is I AM} Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. Here Jesus claims to be God, Matthew 28:18 {which he takes up after the resurrection} And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, all power {authority} is given (surrendered) unto me in heaven and in earth. Revelation 1: 11-14, 22:13, 16 {Jesus assumes his correct position as GOD} Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: … And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;… And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last… >> have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Revelation 1:17-18 {John states Jesus is the First and the Last?} And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, fear not; I am the first and last: I am he that liveth, and was…………….. Dead, and, behold, I am alive for evermore, A-men; and have the keys of hell and of death …..When did the First and the Last (GOD), the Beginning and the End (GOD), the Alpha and Omega (GOD) taste death? Boy, are The Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit confused...
John 1:18 5:37 {Jesus states} No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. And the father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. Genesis 17:1, 3 {So who appeared and spoke?} And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, etc. Exodus 3:4 And when the Lord saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, here am I. John 3:12, 13 {how can Jesus be talking to Nicodemus and be in heaven?} If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. In His service, And Yet God is one Mark 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all ? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
The daughter cannot sit at the right-hand side of the mother as they are the same person. My wife is a mother and a daughter all at the same time. Still only one person. There is no interaction between your three different descriptions of the same person.
In the creation account, both God the Father and God the Holy Spirit are seen in the work of creation. It is stated that God created heaven and earth (Gen. 1:1), but that it was the Holy Spirit who moved over the earth to infuse it with life in the sense of protecting and participating in the work of creation (Gen. 1:2). Writing about the Messiah, Isaiah reveals Him to be equal with God, calling Him the “Mighty God” and “Eternal Father” (Isa. 9:6).
@ ibrahim ibrahim: Trinity is false but it is even funnier to hear Muslim clerics explain Allah. Allah has 2 right hands, one eye or multiple eyes, one shin, he as no body parts, he has a shape, he has no shape. where is Allah? He is everywhere, he is with everyone, he is over his throne, he is on his throne, proof is 6, 7, or 8 times in Quran. They say don’t imagine but yet M’hmd describe in Quran and confused all the Muslims. 😂. You are right, it’s funny watching ppl explain such foolishness. 😂😂😂😂
Did you know that the trinity has creative power? It creates the opportunity for God to worship His own creature (Matthew 4: 9; Luke 4: 7). And thou shalt be a son of damnation, when thou shalt proclaim it. (2Th 2:10; 2Peter 2: 1) For these two come from one another and are connected!
