I was responding to a four year old video, so I’m glad to see recent comments. My dad taught me to sharpen on a stone. I have always prided myself on my sharpening skills…my test has always been a clean, thin slice from a tomato and if it would shave hair. Then enter the EdgePro…after watching many, many RU-vid videos I purchased mine. This tool takes knife sharpening to new level! Thanks for a great no nonsense video. Keep up the good work.
I can’t wait to look back over your previous videos. There really is such a great community of knife makers and sharpeners here on RU-vid. I’m really impressed at the willingness to help in this community. It just seems we are for the most part pretty like minded individuals who all want to share what information and experience with others. Not everyone but for the most part as with yourself. Im watching your video every time I comment. I do just throw my stones I plan to use in a tub of water and as I sharpen I rinse them in the sink periodically.
You should look into getting a drill bit collar to keep your point of reference in between stones...there is a slight width discrepancy between each stone also that glass tray you have is also used as a stone leveler. Good vid!
Thanks for reminding me that I have a kitchen full of knives that desperately need to be sharpened! I need to break out the whetstone that I bought a few months ago and get to work! I've been sharpening knives for over 25 years, but I don't think that I've ever been very good about maintaining my bevel angles. As silly as it sounds, I never understood how critical that skill was to proper sharpening. I'm sure that I've improperly convexed the living crap out of countless blades. You've taught me that lesson! (probably explains why I have been able to get knives "pretty" sharp, but generally not sharp enough to shave off hairs) However, since I've been watching you, I've already had much better success at sharpening both knives and axes. Thanks!
I love being able to flaten my stones on the glass ring. That’s actually all I use it for now. The professional model really sticks to your countertop. Really!!!!
Nice sharpening system. I'm very tempted to order one after your review. Not sure about that coffee though... looked weaker than a mild tea. It certainly won't put hair on your chest!
@@kyle_noseworthy Always enjoyed your contributions to the world of steel sharpening. Thanks for the effort. In return, get yourself a basic burr grinder, an Aeropress and some decent roasted coffee beans. Coffee shouldn't be transparent.
I’ve another tip I learned from Rob Bixby. Use the postal tape to place on your blade to keep from scuffing up your blade while sharpening. You can even place a small piece of tape on the makers mark if you are say resurfacing a convex edge by hand to keep from removing the etching.
If you were wondering about the abrasives used by Edge Pro, the stones are made by Boride Engineered abrasives. The 220 is an AM-K, the 400 is the Orange EDM, 600 is AS-9, 1000 is from the Gold Star line. All can be ordered in different sizes from Boride's website. The polishing tapes are just 3m PSA adhesive lapping films. The full size films (3"x9") can be found on Amazon pretty easily. Honestly, you should check out gritomatic's website and order some Boride T2 stones (gritomatic provides them pre-cut on laser etched aluminum blanks). They're twice as thick as the stock edge pro stones, they wear slower, and they work better on hard stainless steels.
Those are excellent sharpening systems, a buddy of mine has an older model and it's still as tight and reliable as when it was new, they are fairly expensive but something thats always been on my "someday" list..lol great video as always, cheers till the next one!
Happy Family day brother !! Congrats on the good news as well. #2 in the oven :) This system is very nice....i considered it years ago and never pulled the trigger. I will have to watch your long term results to see what my decision may be. You will get a ton of use from it compared to me. Give the family my best !!! 👍
The EdgePro is a really great system. The polishing tapes are pretty finicky and not as tough as the lapping films that KME uses but the 6K tape produces one of the nicest edges that I have ever seen.
I own both the apex and now the professional. I absolutely love mine!! Of course has no place sharpening convex edges. That’s ok with me. Try clear postal tape and you’ll be much more satisfied.
I'm still working on my wet stone skills, but it would be nice to have a sharpener like that to fix my occasional goofs and get the angles back where they need to be. Thanks for sharing
I'd love to be good at freehand sharpening....been trying for 40yrs....don't have time to practice to gain nor to maintain the skill. Too many other things occupy my free time. Will be purchasing one of these or the KME system.
Kyle...just now seeing this. Have my eye on the Edge Pro, so this could be fun. Before falling all the way down that rabbit hole, what is your latest/final word on a "proper" set of freehand stones - size, make, model, grit, etc? Thanks for this video!
Hey Steve! The EDGE PRO will produce an edge that is only achievable by masters of freehand sharpening. The results are incredible. The EDGE PRO will cost you more money in the long run. Initial investment is probably pretty close to each other, but the EDGE PRO stones will need to be replaced more often due to thickness. If you aren't interested in investing a year of time scratching your head learning freehand sharpening, and you don't care about the tradition of learning freehand, an EDGE PRO is probably best.
I’ve enjoyed (and benefitted) from every one of your videos I’ve seen; thank you Kyle. Have you tried the KME or other similar systems since doing this video. Would like to know your thoughts on pros / cons of similar sharpeners. I’m still learning to improve freehand sharpening skills and determined to learn. I just can’t spend hours trying to get razor edge on “super” steels. If I decide on this system I’ll order from your link if it’ll help you in any way.
Hey Tim, Thanks so much for the kind words my friend. I haven't tried any of the other systems. Only the EDGE PRO. You should be spending near that amount of time on 'super steels'. Buy a couple decent quality whetstones and you'll be just fine!
When you create a burr on the blade, do you flip the knife over and work that side until the burr disappears which indicates the blade is at its apex? Then go to a finer stone to work on the apex?
Such a simple system, but its plastic. Only thing missing is a good strop. You spend all that time creating a bead on the cutting edge, a strop will increase the sharpness 10 fold and reveal your true cutting edge, barbers have used them for years. Who knows you may be able sharpen faster and less often with fewer grits. The added grits do more for polishing than sharpening. Note, a strop is not leather on a piece of wood, its a leather belt hung to create a concave action on the edge not the edge faces( like a stone).
That's the first thing I thought too. I made a sharpener like this once and Kyle called me out for not using the old skills. Lol I like it for establishing a new bevel angle on a knife then maintain it thereafter by hand.
Haha These systems are certainly more expensive than a basic stone set. I think I was more than rational and fair in my explanation for the use of this system. I am testing it, to see WHERE it fits for someone who needs to sharpen. Gotta' provide content that supports everyone, not just my own preferences.
You are going way too fast, buddy. Go onto the Edge Pro website and click on the Video icon. You will see that they run the stone over the knife slowly for two reasons. First, it removes more metal with less effort. Second, it prevents the stones from becoming glazed. I highly recommend that you watch the inventor of the system sharpen and learn from him. He's been doing it for almost 40 years.
Also only do a minimum of five passes per inch on the blade. This keeps even edge and prevents errors. Keep with that method until the burs appear. Flip the knife and follow the same on the opposite side. Repeat with each new stone. The final stone or two should be done 20x/side, away from, and not into the cutting edge, with descending counts each time. The angle of kitchen knives depends on their use, as well, but 15-25 is average for thin and fine cutting. For the first time, I did some kitchen knives, of different types, recently, by hand, and they slice great but not perfectly without chopping, as knives are meant to slice, mostly and not hack like done here.
You need to watch videos actually produced by EDGE PRO. They tell you to go slowly over the knife-edge so the stone does not become glazed. In fact, the faster you go, the slower the metal removal. Watch all their videos on their web site and all their videos produced on their RU-vid channel. You will then change your technique. It is called the Edge Pro Professional (Professional version). Edge Pro Apex is for average consumers. Both machines (I own both) sharpen knives to the same degree although the Pro is faster because the stroke is longer.
I love watching your channel and seeing you work and sharpen, Ive been free hand sharpening for a year and a half or so, I used the smith sharpening system then Lansky system and they both work with a similar idea to this, the lansky is definitely a better system to the smiths but I haven’t touched either since I started getting good freehand, I’ve messed around a bit with making knives but mainly do handle and sheaths, I’m slowly working towards actually making my own blades, very soon however I do want to buy one of your custom knives, and it’ll be funny to see my initials on a blade(my name is also Kyle and my last name is Newhall). Love your channel brother.
Kyle Noseworthy absolutely I would love that a lot, I’ve been watching your channel for a year or so now, I actually first heard of your channel from Lars over at survival Russia, his channel really got me started with outdoor/bushcraft stuff, I haven’t done much since I was a kid in the Scouts, but watching channels like yours is what really got me into wanting to make and sharpen knives. I love your knowledgeable yet laid back approach, it makes me think of myself, who knows maybe it’s a Kyle thing haha. Stay awesome my friend. -Kyle
I'd like to have one....although I'd have no excuse then to torment u to sharpen my knives. I guess this is no use for a stainless fillet knife as it's not magnetic.
haha The wife might be happy to not have you leave to 'quickly get your knife sharpened', and then be gone for 2 hours though! haha The magnet is an addition. Unnecessary
We lose valuable skills cause the ones with the skills need to teach other people ..we use to pass on skills ,,now a days seems like no one has the time to teach or want to take the time to learn ,,, both sides of the coin.. Thank god for utube where people can learn from your skills so you are passing on skills with every video.. Thank you again for you time...
