You used exactly the same word i would use! Emil is delusional. Bethesda isn't king of dlcs since Blood and Wine dlc for The Witcher 3, and even less now after this debacle of shat in space, wich isn't EVEN CLOSE to a Phantom Liberty.
Step 1. Fire Emil and Todd Step 2. Hire some damn writers (Chris Avellone anyone?) Step 3. Clean up the trash on the "creations store." Step 4. Add meaningful content (mechs, space station building) Step 5. Free updates like no mans sky. Step 6. Comeback story. I like this game, but this dlc is pathetic. 6 reskined weapons, 5 hour story, and 30 plus reskined outfits.
mate, what u describe is called "creating a new dev studio" ... why even call it Bethesda afterwards? Let the zombie die, other studios are already picking up the torch.
To be real, the sooner companies like Bethesda, Ubisoft, Square Enix, Activision, Electronic Arts, etc. collapse because of their own greed, lack of creativity, and ineptitude the better it will be for the gaming world. Sets a tone for any other developers who create trash products.
@@kylefarris8866 don’t get me started on those companies! They will all get their own video from me one day soon. It’s definitely that though; money over art. And nowadays we get studios in Japan, Europe coming in and smashing them to pieces and picking up all the accolades and awards. But what’s worse, is that the studios you mentioned ser this, and don’t care! They’re like “sure your games are more enjoyed, but look how much money we’re making! We work 2% as hard and profit double!” It’s really the worst side of gaming
no new companions.., that's when he lost me, there are 2 new companions.., just not romanceable. ... but do believe, there is missing content (needed more juicy bits..).. buy Shattered Space is no where near as bad as many make it out to be.., and completing Shattered Space by going on foot everywhere like F4 (no jetpack flying, no vehicle), it would take a longer ...
Ubisoft is in the market for acquisition as we speak unironically... but the most likely to bid is Tencent lol. So if you think they were bad before, prepare yourself for infinitely much worse. And that's not to excuse modern ubi by any means, just contextualize the future of AAA
I defended FO4, I defended 76. I believed the Starfield hype. I played 20 hours and uninstalled it and won’t be buying ES6 until after reviews. Bethesda completely lost all my trust.
Similar story here. I hated Fallout 76, didn't defend it. But everything before that I loved. I have so many Bethesda games, thousands of hours sunk into them, including Fallout 4. But after 76 I was skeptical, and when Starfield came out I only managed to play for about 40 hours and then I just... couldn't stand it anymore. And I waited a year for Shattered Space to fix everything. In a year they fully transformed Fallout 4 -- it had SIX DLC in that time, some VERY good. But here with Starfield, I got 1 DLC and it didn't do ANYTHING to help resolve the base game's problems. At this point, I'm just done with Bethesda. They've lost me. They shoved me out the door and closed it, and I'm not looking for a way back in. I'll stay gone until a review says one of their games is the best thing ever, nearly flawless. Only then will I come back, because they've burned bridges with me too much.
Looks like they cut it from the base game to use as a DLC. Allusion is made throughout the base game, you even have Andreja who is Va'runn but there's no faction of them in the base game, it's very odd.
That’s how it felt. It felt and set up just like a faction quest line. Maybe they added more side quests or pois but I feel like this content was meant to be in the main game but got cut. There’s no proof and it’s just a hunch. It doesn’t feel like a full expansion. It’s like an add on.
Right. Like in CP277 when they cut Dogtown out to use as DLC. Also like Phantom Liberty, this DLC can be completed in add little as 5 hours. And also has 11 side quests. Both are trash. /s
When i tough it couldn't be worse! Remember they didn't make the new elders scrolls because this game and it took 9 yeara to do it and skyrim has more players currently than the fresh dlc
@@IsraelSocial exactly! I saw those stats today! How can they not be ashamed?! How can they let that be? I’d do everything I could get this back! But they just don’t seem to care. Their downfall will have to be studied because I’ve never seen something this drastic in a long time!
Me too…honestly especially after all this interviews. I worry what it’ll end up as. I’ve always believed that the Bethesda who made everything before Skyrim was still in there somewhere. Maybe they are, but right now I’m losing the faith. It’s like they disappeared and this is some evil corporation who are wearing a mask. You can’t even compare this dlc with previous dlc. I honestly am lost for words now lol
I‘m not worried for TES6. (Anymore) I‘m relatively sure that it will suck and now they have to surprise me positively to convince me otherwise. The last 13years they produced slop in my opinion. Even fallout4 was very controversial to me. (Dialogue system & building mechanic) It’s really mindblowing that they created Morrowind, oblivion and Skyrim all within 9years. Now one game takes them 5 to 8years but it still has only a fifth of the content and quality previous games had.
@@AVVGaming1 Well they indeed disapeared, because the last proper game they made was Skyrim and thats 15 years. Thats enough time for a core ppl to fluctuate elswhere. They are gone, some of em retired, as they made games for decades already. Beth totally blew it, they just milked Skyrim dead and forgot how to make games. Because to make good games, you need to do that continually, or the ppl and skill just vanishes. And thats what happened and now, when they are back to making games, we see the results of this hiatus. The studio is gone.
@@K.R.98 fallout 4 was okay but didn’t click the same with me as their previous games. But there was enough there to see they still made okay games. The dialogue was disappointing, in fact I did a whole video “how fallout 4 divides fans” where I explained all the things I felt it lacked. I cannot believe this studio has let things decline so much. It’s so drastic and it’s like 76, starfield, these are surely not the same people who made Morrowind, Skyrim, fallout 4. It’s just so sad to see and the worst thing is they don’t even see it. They think, and I quote email “starfield is their best game”. This whole thing is going to be my next video for sure.
@@AVVGaming1 I think the reason why they don't see how much they have fallen is because they believe their own hype. It's pretty clear in how they talk about themself that they still believe everybody loves them, it's still 2011 in their mind and they are still soaring high on skyrim, and they haven't made some really bad choices with Fallout 4/76 and starfield.
The "DLCs" you describe are really just what was traditionally called an "expansion". BG 2's Shadows of Amn, "Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep" for Borderlands 2, all the expansions for various MMOs, and so on... The smaller bits were referred to as micro-transactions, even if they were barely ever priced at an actual micro level. Stuff like the Warden's Keep in DA:O, Fire in the Sky for ME2, and so on. But yeah, Shattered Space falls more into the "micro-transaction" area of DLC than an expansion, but is priced at expansion levels. But honestly, I look at how people reacted to Starfield, and then at Bethesda's reaction to that reaction. I look at how lackluster the patches were, despite the glaring problems in Starfield. I look at how they once again try to monetize mods. It was obvious Shattered Space was going to be bad. Mind you, I think Bethesda really needed it to be good, for the sake of ES6 hype, but, well, the company is incapable of putting in the time and effort required to salvage their faltering reputation.
What I hate most about Starfield is the inconsinstency of realism. They made most of the planets empty due to realism. But then they didnt even bother to put realistic biomes on them. I cant count how often I have landed on a planet or moon with no atmosphere and water just to find plants and wildlife there after Vasco told me there is no life on this planet. As a big astronomy nerd this p*sses me off so much, lol.
@@Kintabl Yeah, right. Im send to a planet to survey it to find out if its inhabitable. And when I land there, there are fauna and flora and human outposts everywhere on it. So wtf is the point of surveying this planet? Clearly there have been humans there multiple times. Just do some research on the internet (or whatever the Starfield equivalent of the internet is) and Im sure there are all the informations you need. No point in sending people out there on stupid survey missions. Also, those buildings will start repeating with the same enemies the longer you play. Copy paste. Whats even worse tho are the lackluster fauna and flora on planets. There are multiple different biomes on a planet. But every biome has the same frickin animals. Savanna, swamp, snowy tundra, all inhabited by the same species. Realism and immersion my ass.
Starfield has a skeleton crew, guaranteed. All hands are on deck for ES:6, which doesnt matter. Since they're so out-of-touch, it's probably going to be the lamest one out of the series.
Idk man, Todd’s baby (he’s been itching to make a space game for awhile) has a skeleton crew? I honestly doubt they’re even working on ES6, like i wouldnt be surprised
Bethesda didn't even try. Cut content from the base game added as a dlc they had to come out with because they'd already taken money for it. That's exactly what it is. That's exactly what it feels like. I'm done giving Bethesda the benefit of the doubt. It's a sinking ship without anyone skilled enough to pick up a bucket.
Emil saying "no one knows DLC more than us" says a lot about the internal attitude at BGS. To me it reads "we're so far up our own ass that anything we do is gold," which, as you explained, just isn't true anymore. As creatives and producers you still need to keep up and push boundaries. It reminds me of the reaction to Baldur's Gate 3's success where other RPG makers were like WOAH guys! You can't expect us to do that! hahahaah c'mon where's the spirit in this industry
Ding ding ding, ever since they were told Skyrim was the pinnacle of gaming they rejoiced made billions and gave you the mediocre you all so loved in Skyrim.
9:43 Welcome to modern BethesdaGS, takes more time, more money and eventually worse product. How can anyone be expecting anything from TES6 now ? All the best developers left Bethesda, even their last TES lorehead Kuhlmann. BGS is a shadow of its former glories yet it still living off Skyrim success.
I think they bit off way more than they could chew and didn't realize it until it was too late. Then they had to delay release for a year to try and get the game into a playable state. Then they had to spend another year releasing patches and bugfixes. By now Microsoft wants some return on investment so it's DLC time, only they haven't got anything ready so they grab some cut content from the main story and slap a $30 price tag on it. Welcome to the new Micro-Thesda.
Bethesda games were fantastic games as a teenager, but everything in them is just so antiquated now, quests, characters, the world, and its story are so boring as an adult, there's so much better games out there with deeper more meaningful things to tell
I won’t be buying GTA 6 either and after this generation of gaming ends, I’m done with gaming. (Done buying of course because I’m happy with what I already got)
@@PowerfulRift I’d say to play the game of waiting. You know the “good things comes to those who wait?” It’s so applicable in gaming! Like if you buy a game on day 1, it’s full price, the reviews might end up being bad, etc. but if you wait, you can check the reviews make sure it’s solid and then save money too! I refuse to pre order anything just because I don’t want to take that risk. It’s unnecessary for sure!
You don’t have to be done with gaming. There are so many great games that come out per year. I understand being mad at triple A games for being underwhelming. Very few triple A games live up to expectations. I think it limits your scope in what you can experience, burning you out. In the mean time, you need to look at indie games or non triple A games to find consistent experiences. It’s good to get outside your comfort zone and try different types of games.
@@ryanloveless3870 spot on! AAA games developed in the USA are going through a tough spot valuing money and profit over the actual quality of the game. The games made in Europe, Japan etc and indie games are making unbelievable games and that’s where I find my enjoyment now. I played shattered space and the xenoblade 3 afterwards and it immediately made up for it.
The difference is Hearthfire etc was actual EXTRA content for Skyrim.. while this "DLC" was *clearly* meant to be regular/base game content for Loadingfield that developers carved out to sell back to the players for another $30. Shameful!
For too long, Bethesda has been based on the work of screenwriters and just talented people who developed arena, daggerfall, morrowind, fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas. She managed to do this for an amazingly long time, apparently thanks to rare releases of games, but apparently, having lost many talented developers, they realized that the inertia of past greatness was evaporating, decided to make a new franchise, and only sat in a puddle.
"Money over self-respect." Nailed it. I was a Bethesda fan for quite some time. But no more. Starfield opened my eyes to the fact that Bethesda lacks the ability to make fun and engaging games. I am done with anything Bethesda.
My feed has quite a few reviews of this 'dlc' and none of them are positive. I wouldn't have bought in at 30$ anyway, but now that I've seen a few of these reviews I won't be buying in at any price. Even if it was free, the reviews are enough for me to not bother installing Starfield again to try it. 30$ in my pocket and many GB of extra space on my HDD. Bethesda ain't even trying to get this fan back -they just keep pushing me and my wallet away. Off to play Timberborn, I got a damn to build.
Todd acts like he is married to the creation engine and cant handle a divorce. He always defends it saying how the devs are so used to using it, like nobody cares. Your paying them to make a good game use a modern engine.
Every single word you've said, sir, is TRUTH. About Bethesda's current approach to "create mystic image of their studio as Masters of DLC", to community, to technology and learning, and, of course truth about this Emil, who is either takes some skooma or just lost almost all his knowledge an dignity to at least be respectful to people, community (or just shut his damn mouth) after what pile of space dump they've released by the name of Starfield
The expansion that just came out for Rogue Trader is fantastic. Great story, fabulous new companion. Plenty of new enemies, areas, gear, weapons, ship systems etc etc. And the lore additions to 40k are incredibly fascinating
IMO most likely Todd surrounds the team with positive reinforcement people. There are actually people that praise Starfield as a very deep game and think that the 97% of bad reviews are people with no imagination. You place Emil around these people and he will pump and grind out masterpieces for these people. I am ok with this as to each their own but for me I will not even reinstall it to try out the DLC. The base game just angers me.
I was bored throughout Shat Space. And I immersed, draw in to Phantom Liberty. I agonized over the choices in the game, and still think about it to this day.
Emils comments show you just how oblivious they really are. The quality of Phantom liberty makes shattered space look like an embarrassment. I wish Todd Howard would come to his senses, but it's looking like we won't get a proper modern-day AAA Quality Fallout or Elder Scrolls until he retires.
You've reached the point I was 5 years ago, where many gamers reached years before us. This wasn't a race, never was a destination, rather a process. Developing and justifying standards. This has become labeled "negative" or "toxic" and its progenitors "haters" but no one hates without love. The absence of love is apathy. Standards are harmful to ambiguousness, hurtful to people stricken with lassitude, but no process of positive change feels good. Good is the destination!
P.S. Don’t apologise for being right. You nailed Bethesda’s obvious, unambiguous, cynicism. And I just don’t believe this Emil guy’s staggering tone deafness. His horse armour remark was the equivalent of Hannibal Lecter telling us he respects the sanctity of human life! They’re gaslighting us because they’re reaching early retirement age and they wanted a cash cow to pump money into their retirement funds. Hasn’t Todd already hinted that he doesn’t have another game in him after this upcoming Elder Scrolls?
Bethesda will be the next in line after Ubisoft at this rate. Looks like the gaming industry caught too many nasty illnesses over time and now needs to sweat it out, so a new era of gaming can start. It's just like with atari and E.T. I am so glad I didn't play Starfield, I had it on my wishlist for sometime but dropped it eventually after reading all the bad reviews.
I have always argued to anyone who is not a gamer that this hobby, apart from the high upfront cost, is one of the best cost to time hobbies on earth. How did they make content that is more expensive than just watching a movie in the theater.
I think you made some very fair and well deserved criticisms of the game. Alot of people share the same views and concerns about Bethesda's poor and lacklustre releases after Skyrim.
It’s so tough to see and almost unexplainable! After all the great games they made, suddenly the do everything differently, the fans don’t like it and then they get mad at fans. I don’t understand it. They made great games but by the way they speak you’d think they’d never made those games.
@@AVVGaming1 the sell to Microsoft also came with a huge change in management and their development team. The writing was on the wall for them after the lazy release of Fallout 4 and even worse Fallout 76. I see Elder scroll 5 being a Cyberpunk lvl flop in terms of quality and disappointment
@@iMmunashe One of the problems is, everything has to be photorealistic nowadays, which probably eats a lot of the budget away. Combine it with the rise in overhead costs and the price of the game still the same as 20 years ago and you end up with something like starfield. I personally really don't care about photorealism. Skyrim's graphics are more than fine to me. Problem is, it doesn't look as appealing for a trailer, when you compare it to other titles.
I think one solution could be is that we need to let go of the idea that games need to look photorealistic. I can imagine it takes away a lot of the budget and it really doesn't add much to the experience.
I’ve never been a graphic obsessive. I much prefer the gameplay over everything. Like fallout new vegas ain’t the prettiest game, but the game is fantastic! Does starfield have better graphics? Yes, but it’s nowhere near as good. Gameplay has to come first and foremost!
Cut content, polished and repackaged to be sold as DLC is something of an insult to the intelligence of the players in my view. But that’s been the bass ackwards model Bethesda has obtusely clung to with Starfield since its inception. Instead of coming up with a great story and a compelling protagonist to play as, in a universe populated by other compelling characters, with a world that has internal logic and makes sense, Bethesda thought the, “ambition,” of giving us 1,000 planets and dealing with the technical difficulties that presents would win them a medal or something. They didn’t even achieve that goal, which is why all the loading screens. And they expect Modders to fix it all for them, whilst charging players for that privilege! And if you play on XBox you’re stuffed. And any constructive criticism is met with either flat out anger or passive aggression. Their chief story writer didn’t even KNOW that ALL stories begin with the protagonist and the characters FIRST! You build your world around them! They just came up with a sterile bunch of loading screens and badly animated, barely varying creatures to catalogue; starting on a planet which is the home base for these, “explorers,” who have not even, “explored,” let alone catalogued and recorded, all the wild animals and plants that are LITERALLY on their DOORSTEP! This game makes me so angry! It could have been great! If they’d just hired a half decent WRITER! This game is illogical, childish, patronisingly, offensively, “inoffensive,” and populated by characters who make no sense, break the internal logic of their universe with every other sentence and only get in the way of you take them anywhere! Such a wasted opportunity and an exploitative business model deserves to flop.
Bold of you to assume Bethesda cares. They haven't for years. Look at any of their recent releases, look at Fallout 76, look at their stance towards criticism; they ignore it. Look at how they treat Fallout fans, Todd is fine with Fallout fans not receiving another game for twenty years. What amazes me, is that Microsoft, or Phil Spencer is seemingly happy letting these utterly incompetent people sit on two highly valuable properties, in Fallout and Elder Scrolls. Properties that Microsoft paid for to own, to profit from. But they're not. Not like they could.
expansion packs used to be a pretty common concept, I remember being hype for AoE2's Conquerors expansion. We got lulled into DLC and small changes for a while, thanks horse armour, then CDPR introduced a new generation to expansion packs, which can now be downloaded. Audiences now expect expansions, but Bethesda's still hooked on DLC.
Great video as always! My hot take is Bethesda is no longer the Bethesda we once knew and loved. They have been taken over by Xbox and are now all about the money. None of their projects have any passion to them and it seems as though they’ve lost what made them great in the first place which is truly devastating. I’m really worried about Elder Scrolls 6 now and will most likely wait for reviews before picking it up IF we ever get it. Also, shout out to Metaphor Refantazio! Absolutely LOVING this prologue and can’t wait for its release on Thursday! Atlus always deliver in terms of content 🥰
They are no longer BGS of a decade and half ago due to the talent that made them great leaving or getting pushed out because they were too compentent or talented compared to Emil and Todd.
It's ironically almost certainly not Xbox's fault; I work at a MS owned studio, and if anything, the fault is a too hands-off approach from MS. It's frustrating to me; I am in the business and DO know exactly what it would take to make meaningful improvements and don't understand how they haven't. Literally even one designer, one modeler, not even an engineer for a year should have been able to more meaningfully improve the game since launch than it has with Shattered Sky, 500 developers, in that same year. I take no pleasure in saying this; Bethesda has been one of my favorite studios. I have almost 1800 hours in Fallout 4 alone, let alone Skyrim, let alone close to 500 hours in Starfield. I want to like Starfield; I really, really do. But it's so tough to see very simple, very cheap improvements that would drastically improve the game just not prioritized.
A hot take would be to say "Bethesda is back baby" 😀And of course it might be the same company name, but I would assume most people who worked on Skyrim, Oblivion or Morrowind are gone. I doubt that in this day and age there are a lot of people who work in the same place for 14-20 years. We live in an age of changing your job ever couple of years.
Wrong Bethesda was greedy fat before Xbox bought them . What corrupted them was the massive amount of money they made in Skyrim for the bare minimum work they did to make that game
It's great that you are finally coming around! Been telling everyone forever that Bethesda was a shovelware company and now it became so obvious that it can't be denied. Now the only thing that's left to acknowledge that it was never good to begin with, it's just that back in the day open world games weren't so common.
@@BIGESTblade when you’re saying is correct about them now. I do feel like Bethesda deserve their flowers for their past work. Open world games weren’t as common and they were able to break that. Some of their entries really paved the way for the games we have nowadays so I will always appreciate what they’ve done. However, the way they’ve been recently is really bad. To me, it’s not about the games being bad. It happens right? It’s the attitude! The arrogance. The push towards making more money over making a good game. If they release es6 and it comes out like starfield, it will be one of the biggest mysteries of all down regarding a fall off. I mean Kanye west is the same. Used to be the no 1 artist at one point releasing album after album. Now he can’t make 1 decent song. It’s crazy how some come in, offer so much, then just run out and completely forgot what and who they were. It’s so surreal to see.
@@AVVGaming1 Sure, they paved the way alright. So, you like what they've paved the way to? You've been enjoying all the DLC nickel and diming, all of the copy-paste open world checklist games and broken on release with day 1 patch games? I sure as hell don't, I remember what it was like before Skyrim. The worst thing by far is that because of Bethesda roleplaying games stopped being about writing and story. Even Obsidian is making a Skyrim clone. Obsidian, for crying out loud! The studio that made Knights of the Old Republic 2, the greatest-written and most profound game of all time. Everyone loves complaining about how bad Emil is at his job, but I really struggle to understand why would people that like anything that Bethesda made would take an issue with his writing. They wouldn't be playing Bethesda's slop if they had anything to compare it to.
@@BIGESTblade fair points and I also feel Ubisoft had a similar impact on the open world genre too! With their literal checklists, fetch quests etc. I guess maybe we had lower expectations before? And now others have come in and beat them out? Idk. I’ll doing a morrowind playthrough now (first time) and that will answer the questions I think
@@AVVGaming1 Yes, expectation were lower simply because the RPG genre was very niche. It was dominated by Bioware and pretty much no one else. Most people only discovered what a roleplaying game is after Bethesda sufficiently dumbed it down, I imagine the graphics also helped though. These days, thankfully, Larian Studios singlehandedly proved that for the past 15 years we were going the wrong way and there's a hope that from now on someone's gonna start making them like roleplaying games were always supposed to be made.
@@AVVGaming1don't you dare feel pity on Bethesda, the writing was on the wall since F4, they were a massive studio and has Microsoft backing now. There's absolutely no excuse fo this shat on space DLC. Todd and Bethesda don't deserve pity!
For the price of the Shattered Space DLC, you could purchase one or multiple high quality indie games depending on the price. Bethesdas pricing is a joke, Shattered Space is a $10 DLC at best lol, but probably more like $5 when compared to all these other game DLC's.
The mods like Matilija Aerospace are what keep me interested in the ship building. Nothing outside my ship is worth my time if it doesn't involve crew for my ship.
I’ve put more time into Skyrim and Fallout 4 each than Starfield. I wasn’t planning to buy this DLC but kept an open mind, think I’ll get back to catching butterfly’s and and shouting at dragons
If you didn’t love starfield you won’t love this. I would rather play Skyrim…in fact that’s what I’ll do right now lol I’ll meet you at the winking skeever!
I'm on Xbox Series S and the ONLY way Starfield/Shattered Space will work and not collapse literally EVERY 5 minutes is to leave my console OFF LINE. This is on Bethesda's own site is a KNOWN issue ... Which apparently they might fix when they can be bothered 😵
Shattered Space had the most boring premises i'd ever seen in a Bethesda game. BTW you can't even side with the evil faction, if you do you simply die without any sign, warning, or animation at all, and the game just reloads your most recent save.
Me too! I saw the change happen around fallout 4. It didn’t hit the lofty heights of other games they did, but it was still okay. It did the job. Then fallout 76 and starfield are almost like out of another studio! It’s night and day
Shattered space made me give Starfield another chance after being disappointed with it last year. But I modded it with the great StarWars Genesis modlist and I feel thats what Starfield always wanted to be :) Plays great, still engine and design limitations like 900 needless planets and a cluttered galaxy map and lots of loading screens remain. We need a mod that removes every generated planet and only keeps the ones with handcrafted content that are accessable in a neat list/ overview :)
I really loved Shattered Space. The style of the setting and atmosphere are very immersive. The fact that it’s quite dark and almost sinister feeling is great. I like the story too. I really enjoyed my play through
They think about it probably more than any other studio... Than maybe they should 'contemplating' less, and do actual work slightly more... Contemplating... good one. From what we've seen, only thing they do is... MEDITATING....
Great video. Bethesda needs to be pressured into either A. Making great games again or B. Letting a more competent developer like Obsidian (Fall Out New Vegas anyone?) make some games with their IP’s. They hoard their beloved IP’s while squandering their fans trust & money on nonsense like Fallout 76 & Starfield. 2 bland, soulless, boring, crappy games. Imagine a timeline where they didn’t do that, and instead made ES6 (what their fans actually f-cking wanted) and embraced the best aspects of Fallout New Vegas into their subsequent games. The missed opportunity is staggering. We should stop giving this company money until things change, I for one have made that decision already. I’ll be over here playing Elden Ring, Baldur’s Gate 3 & Cyberpunk 2.0 & other great games and will only support Bethesda when/if they get their sh*t together
We should start a petition to have Bethesda reduce the price to 10 dollars and reimburse those who paid full price. Developers can't keep getting away with this. The people who claim to enjoy this dlc are inadvertently sealing their own fate. Quality will continue to dwindle while pricetags increase. It's about sending a message.
I was just saying this to a friend! If you say “oh well, I like it! They gave me everything I want!” You’re basically enabling them. It’s not acceptable, and I’m mainly on about the $30. If they want to make a dlc like this, charge $10-$15. It’s the fact they charge this amount and don’t even reflect. If they did an interview and said “look, we’re behind technically and our new dlc isn’t as good as others but we’re trying” or something id get it. But it’s the “we’re the best ever!” Thing they’re doing whilst everyone is leaving bad reviews and they just say “oh they don’t know good games”. I’ve never seen anything like this before.
Exactly! And that’s why I’m so upset about the £30. It’s shows a massive disconnect between what they consider good value. They have not advanced their DLC since the older days, in fact I’d argue regressed and were now seeing the only thing that’s gone up is their price. I’d have rather got a good indie game. Honestly this new dlc hurt.
For all those people who complain about the price.... it's on you guys you should have known this ...this is not news to anyone who has been in gaming for more than a few years.. you should do your research first before you buy s***
@@rave1704 absolutely spot on! I am not so much complaining that I spent the money, and truth be told, if I didn’t have a RU-vid channel I wouldn’t have gotten it lol I wanted to do a video on it hoping I could do a “Bethesda show signs of improvements, es6 stands a chance” video, but unfortunately this was the video I made :( but I really think nowadays we can wait until after a game comes out before jumping the gun
This is historical nonsense. There really was nothing like Oblivion, Fallout 3 or Skyrim when they came out. (There's a reason why everyone was trying to give the next Skyrim in the first half of the 2010s). Yes, Bethesda games always had *problems*, one look at New Vegas shows that they always should have been *better*, but that doesn't undermine their uniqueness or historical importance. Bethesda is one of the principal reasons that open worlds became popular. If Bethesda doesn't exist, we don't have the Witcher 3 or Cyberpunk, we don't have Kingdom Come, The Outer Worlds, Avowed or of course New Vegas. Saying they were always bad is like saying that Resident Evil or Silent Hill were garbage because of their tank controls, terrible combat, annoying puzzles and low fps. It was a different time. Bethesda is what Capcom would be if they were still making tank control Resident Evil ... And if they somehow thought it was a good idea to tone down the horror elements to appeal to a broader audience at the same time.
@raymondstewart3350 Look, if you like Bethesda slop, then far be it from me to tell you otherwise. Just because "nothing like it existed" at the time doesn't mean they made good games, it's also wrong, they were just the most accessible popular. The logic of "well without it we would have x y and z" is beyond stupid because by that logic pong is a great game because without it we wouldn't have cyberpunk, so where do you draw the line? BGS games imo are just RPGs for people who don't play RPGs, but like I said, if you like them, don't pay attention to me, I just personally think they're garbage games that rely on modders to make them passable 🤷
@SirKnasher They were good at the time, especially with Morrowind. The key problem is that their formula has not meaningfully evolved since 2003. Every entry afterwards has been re-designed from the ground up, with a prominent removal of beloved features and stripping away of complexity, instead of an enhancement of depth. They've increasingly attempted to become more of an action-focused studio, without any of the cinematic capabilities, writing prowess, or polish that you'd expect to be necessary, all while simultaneously abandoning complex RPG mechanics and meaningful consequences. In short, in attempting to appease the least common denominator and adhere to these bland, misguided corporate metrics, they've basically become totally detached from their core audience (part of the problem is that because of the inconsistency of their work, they have several core audiences with different expectations). Couple that with an internal echochamber with corporatespeak and the whole toxic positivity thing, with incompetent directors, and we've got an insurmountable problem.
Starfield has been uninstalled from my console since two weeks after it was released, and now it has been removed from my library. It takes up way too much file size for the trash that it is, I've got better games to pay attention to, and I can't wait for Monster Hunter Wilds and the new Metal Gear Solid Remake.
As always an interesting and informative take. Love the channel. I actually just finished the main quest, did loads of side quests. I think about 23 hours for me. It was a nasty start,all the floting zero g stuff is not my cup of tea and the first few side quests were uninspiring: a weird duel between brothers and an unending fetch quest for scientists. However the quality improved a lot as i persisted. I really loved having everything on one planet, i wish this was the approach from the start. I enjoyed coming across a random cool side quest like Tomb of Fang ( or something like that). Theres also a really touching one about a man with dementia and an orphanage that was really moving. Mostly enjoyed the main quests after the bumpy start. I wasnt expecting phantom liberty, just more Starfield. Ive grown to enjoy the game but appreciate that many havent and respect where theyre coming from
Here are some other games I've enjoyed since Starfield is a bust and Emil is out of his mind. Remnant From The Ashes and Remnant 2 - both really great games to play around with lots if build options. Conan Exiles. The name put me off, it's so weird that they picked that but the game is great. Build almost anywhere, get gear to make your character stronger. I played solo only and had a great time with it. Division 2. Every time I go back after playing other games I'm like "dang, this is a good game." Lots of build possibilities and if you haven't played it yet there is a ton to explore.
@@Incog-e1z what’s your studio? I’d happily do a video on any of your games for free! In fact I think getting a video from the perspective of a small studio would make for a really good video! Would you be open to discussing that?
@@Mauditduparadis hahahaha I’ve got it on the way on it’s release date. My kind of game. In fact, Japanese games recently have really been my go to! Just finished xenoblade 3 and now on ff7 rebirth. Then I’ve got this one. So many games coming out.
Try not to concern yourself too much with worrying about hurting people's feelings or stepping on people's toes because of your review. It can come across like you're looking for validation from the same bone heads that support corporate greed like what we're seeing from companies like Bethesda, Blizzard and Ubisoft. I think you should actually jus express yourself free of the fear of judgement from such people since it does no justice to your content when you worry so much about what others may think of your opinion. This is your channel after all.
Thank you very much for the awesome feedback! I think if you watch through all my videos, it starts off with me trying to make everyone happy, then slowly I start to give my opinion, and here we are we’re im a bit more out spoken but still trying to be fair. As a new RU-vidr it’s all new so I try to strike a balance but feedback like this is really helpful as I’d never thought of it that way. That saying that may reflect trying to get validation. That wasn’t the intent but you’re right that it can reflect that. Honestly this paragraph you took the time to write is hugely helpful and I will learn from this and stay true to me. You’ve really helped the channrl today and it means a lot you would actually take the time to provide that. Really good constructive feedback!
Maybe some remember the time when Add-Ons were whole games by themselves, such as the expansions of Dawn of War, or the old Warcraft and Starcraft games. Funny to think of big companies believing they're living in a bubble where only they exist.
Very fair. I actually loved Starfield. I had zero expectations, and it blew me away. I played a few hundred hours before I was done and moved on. I was always going to return for DLC. I had really high hopes for Shattered Space. It looked like it would be scary (i love Dead Space), and when they said "hand crafted" i was imagining a fallout map full of stories and depth and grit. Certainly a whole year and 30 dollars was enough for that. The last DLC i bought for 30 dollars was the Tales of Arise expansion. It was wonderful. It was 20ish hours more of great story, exploring what happens in a world still healing after the 'hero' ends the 'big bad'. And they actually redesigned every city in the world, to show the change and new issues, when a whole culture is released from slavery, so i could see how my hero's journey changed everything. It was so good. Shattered space was... well... i guess it was more starfield. They added a major city, on par with Akhila or Atlantis or Neon or the Key. With its own similar faction questline and similar amount of side content. So i would place its "value" around 15 dollars (a bit less than a quarter of the base game). I took my time with it, exploring all the stuff outside the city. There are good little surprises and side quests. But... i dunno. I wasnt hungry for more. The writing was just really dry. It was hard to care about anyone from varuun. Its passion thats missing. Sometimes i play games that are 10-20 years old. Being dated really doesn't matter when the writing is stellar and the stakes are high and i fear for characters. Look at the old resident evil (biohazard) games, or chrono games, or final fantasy 6/7/8. They look rough theae days. But, OH, the stories they tell! Its impressive how much Emil writes. But a whole team of passionate writers are needed to offer sprawling epic stories with truly different characters.
The problem is that everyone has glazed Bethesda for so long they think their shit can never stink. Despite all these video critiques out there, they're very easy to ignore if one wants to. The only way they'll wake up is when people stop buying their crap.
I wouldn't buy that piece of trash. Down with Bethesda, you gave an honest review. What really got me with the whole DLC was what the reviewers said about Andreja, they didn't even really embellish her story arc in the DLC. Very disappointing.
I apologize if my speech is misunderstood by many. I am a Russian speaker and do not know English well). In general, the longer I play Shattered Space, the more I don't understand all the negativity around DLS and such a low rating of the expansion. I don't understand even more than I didn't understand most of the negativity towards the base game (such a tautology). The addition is very, very good. The atmosphere (the most subjective thing) went with a bang for me. Inon Zur has written quite a few new excellent ambient, full of cosmic mysticism and occultism. In combination with local design, an abundance of various kinds of obelisks of bizarre shapes and sanctuaries, the surfaces of which are streaked with various kinds of hieroglyphs. All this breathes a Lovecraftian atmosphere. Bethesda loves to make references to its universe, here I fully agree with the tastes of the studio's artists. "Ph'nglui mglv'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh vgah'nagl fhtagn")). A well-designed map and I did not experience problems with moving around the map on the Buggy (probably it is worth playing the game, probably it is worth learning and adapting to the peculiarities of transport and landscape in order to feel like a fish in water behind the wheel? A lot of new locations with a ton of interactive stories, Easter eggs, notes, audio recordings that help to understand the history of this world. Many locations are very pleasing with their elaboration and scale, yesterday probably about 1-1.5 hours I explored an underground farm (well, and its above-ground part), a bunch of notes, audio recordings, which as a result clarified the history of this location well, and some kind of quest appeared in the journal related to the characters who worked on this farm, and such a frail pack of enemies. The DLS perfectly conveys the classic mechanics of exploring the world in the spirit of Bethesda: you climb somewhere higher, look around, and see some. There is a good quest aimed at exploring the world in an extremely classic style, well, Morrowind fans should have enjoyed it (Or are many only verbal fans of Morra, because respected uncles say that this is the Magnum opus of the Arbors and their opinion should be unconditionally broadcast everywhere, and they themselves have not really touched this creation?). The Path of Redemption: you just read the book and the path described in detail in it, follow this path in search of the right shrines, along the way finding a lot of new locations and stories. And in general, the quests in DLS are very good, I have not completed everything, but what I have already seen leaves positive emotions. The same quest with a dementia grandfather and a ghost following him in a ruined orphanage, if you are not one of those who just fly forward for loot, then you will see a close connection between these quests. The beginning of the dls itself was very intriguing, but after spending 5 hours on it, I didn't really touch the main plot, leaving it for later. I haven't touched it so much that I still can't buy anything from local merchants. But no, everyone listens to their favorite bloggers and collapses the rating of the add-on to the point of absurdity, justifying themselves with a small number of weapons and armor and the lack of new parts for the ship... point-blank not noticing a lot of good quests, a variable story, a well-developed map and a bunch of new, diverse entries. Suddenly, there were not enough guns for everyone in the game... Willy-nilly, you will believe in the schizophrenic conspiracy theories that some people who went here and there express in the comments, that competitors are deliberately sinking the studio...)) Well, many people believe in a manual comparing some game that needs to be sold with Mass Effect 2. It's time to believe about the manual of the wretchedness of DLS because of the number of weapons and armor🌚 in it, and to dump on all other aspects of the add-on what kind of objective (NO) - Boring.....
I disagree with the "who buys the DLC" part. I liked Starfield and yes, I have defended it, but it's not like I don't see the cons to it. The positives outweigh the negatives for me. I'm ok with the empty planets (real space is empty), the writing got on my nerves at times and I didn't mind the loading screens (playing thousands of hours of Skyrim and Fallout 4, I got used to them). I didn't get the DLC, because I did what I do every time, before buying I look at reviews and especially at gameplay footage and I wasn't feeling it, especially considering the price/length ratio. Just because I loved their previous games doesn't mean I'm going to continue buying their games/DLCs. I judge each game/DLC individually in making the decision whether to buy or not and Shattered Space is a no from me. We'll see about TES6 when we get there.
Cant understand how Bethesda want selling this game outside US with such kind of political message to humanity about its future ? Along with broken base gameplay mechanics such as stealth, melee combat, spaceship combat, planet/space exploration etc)
You're wrong. I stood by Starfield from day 1. I really enjoy the game. The quasi-realistic sci-fi setting is exactly what makes me tick. I really like the game DESPITE its obvious flaws and limitations. Having said that, I won't be buying this DLC or anything else in the future from Bethesda unless it's heavily discounted. I also thought Shattered Space will fix Starfield at least partially. I consider myself a fan, but not a sycophant. And there's plenty of them around.
To be fair, Emil really has to say stuff like that. He cant blast the company he works for. That said, his reply was tone def and should have been worded much better. Fallout 4 was the last great Bethesda game made. Greed took over when Zenimax planned on selling to Microsoft and continues to be the priority. Make no mistakes kids, Bethesda does not exist anymore. They are Microsoft. I wish Todd would quit and form his own company and make games made with love again.
I've not played the DLC yet, it's in my library but I didn't have to pay the $30 for it and it'll remain in my library untouched, I was never a fan of Va’ruun to began with, when it comes to reviews I use them to base my purchase decision on for instance a product just like when I shop for an item on Amazon, if I see a huge about of negative reviews on an item I tend to skip past them, when I do my search and see the countless negative reviews on this DLC well that speaks volumes.
I've bought a couple of non BGS mods. If BGS made a mod that had a clone of their writer Pissil Pugdaddy for me to assault and torture, I might buy it.
I've been a BGS fan since Fallout 3. I 100% loved everything they've done...except Starfield. Starfield made me HATE Bethesda. I will never give them a single cent ever again. TES 6? I don't care anymore. Of course it'll be just as bad. Fallout 5? Same. It'll all be just as bad as Starfield. I hate them now. I see them as the Father of Microtransactions with that horse armor. They started it all. I hate Starfield so passionately only because my hopes were so high. Never. Fucking. Again.
If people need anymore proof BGS has different people, less talent, and infected with modern day ideologies for the modern gamer. FromSoft and CDPR definitely set the bar higher with DLCs. BGS is no better than Ubisoft, and honestly may even be worse, which makes me sad.
