@33:15 ... My Father's side of my family is *far* from unfamiliar to living under a dictatorship... My father was born in Oslo, Norway, in 1930, and so he was a young teen during the Nazi occupation of his country. (almost all references you will find call this the ‘German’ occupation… my father understood otherwise… in my early youth, here in Western Canada, most of our closest friends were German) He never spoke much about his experiences of that time, as I was growing up. But in my early teens, I had the opportunity to travel with him to Norway, and the rest of Europe, for about six weeks. The first three weeks, we spent in Norway, in and near Oslo. visiting with his family and close friends. During that time, he spoke to me about things he had never shared before... I REMEMBER... ... the moment he pointed toward a street intersection, and said, "I saw an SS officer shoot a man in the street up there." I REMEMBER... ... the moment, stopping, after crossing a footbridge in an Oslo park, and my father telling me, "I was running to get home after curfew, when a German soldier stopped me here at gunpoint... suddenly an old man with a cane stepped out of the darkness, pulled a sword from his cane, and disarmed the soldier, and I ran home." My namesake and great-uncle, Gunnar Edvard Rode Heiberg (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunnar_Heiberg), together with his brother Jacob, a patron of the arts and culture, (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Vilhelm_Rode_Heiberg) were the primary negotiators who brought about the peaceful separation of Norway from Sweden in 1905 (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_union_between_Norway_and_Sweden). (Side note: Gunnar was also a close personal friend of Edvard Munch, the painter of “The Scream”) My Grandfather was, for a period of time, the Director of the Norwegian National Theatre (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Heiberg) This is all to say that because of our family’s political and cultural influence within Norway at the time, they were under close scrutiny by the NAZI’s and, apparently, a few of those (who were not immediate to my own family), were even executed (some were industrialists and business leaders, etc.). In all cases, whatever wealth they had was almost entirely appropriated by the NAZI’s. THIS is a major reason Norway became a founding member of NATO; and THIS is why we all must ensure that Ukraine is victorious… ALL forms of dictatorship and autocracy must be resisted. Slava Ukraini🇺🇦 from Canada🇨🇦
A great group of guests Jonathan and Jonathan Pearce really raised the matter of looking at the situation in Russia as a whole including the finances , military , public opinion and not separate issues .
Thank you, Jonathan, for bringing wonderful persons together for this conversation. Thank you, Shaun Pinner and Macer Gifford, for serving in Ukraine and keeping her in the discussion. Thank you, Jonathan MS Pearce, for joining. 🇺🇦 Перемоги та миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦
Mr Pearce, A great guy , he has kept me informed daily even though he is unwell, thanks to all you guys that give us informed news we feel we can trust,,
Another great collection of guests. I love this group chat setting. It's so informative. Really good choice Jonathan. Your channel is gaining kudos in leaps and bounds.
You really put together the "trifecta" with this top shelf panel. With the Kursk thing, a lot of pundits look for a main reason, when in fact it's multi-factorial, but as Macer said at the start, I think we are rolling with the punches. I have a flat in Pokrovsk that I might lose, if the Kursk thing drew some enemy troops away then great, but if not, there's many other benefits, it really has changed everything, the elusive "game changer" the pundits are always looking for!
Better a life spared than a home of brick and mortar, yes losing one home is tragically hard, but being alive, sure beats being in a grave of said home
Kursk is very fertile farmland. Some of the best most fertile farmland in the world. In Donetsk. Russia steal Ukraines best farmland. Their export products.
Yet another brilliant video Jonathan! Our cousin Volody and family, who live in Kiev, are avid watchers of your channel in between carrying out deliveries to many many OAPs in the city. He’s also spreading the word about “Silicon Curtain” and you’ve gained quite a few new subscribers from Kiev.
Until August 6th, Ukraine had to defend the entire front line, the entire border with Russia, and the entire border with both Russian occupied Moldova and Russian puppet Belarus. Until August 6th, Russia only had to defend along the front line in occupied Ukraine Now Russia must also defend along the entire Russia/Ukraine border... stretching out their strength. A victory for Ukraine, even if they retreat from Kursk tonight. The possibility of another such attack has been proven.
yeah sorta, but Ukr's military is nowhere big enough to actually be a ground threat in most areas of the total border. Air power maybe more now, but as for ground, no, it's quite limited size of Ukr military from what we have been told at least. And for sure it is in fact a military that needs expansion which take time
@18_rabbit statement from the Ukrainian government indicated they will be close to a million strong by this fall. Numbers are not always the defining factor. The training, motivation, and experience of troops are key.
@@aaronmlller8150yes, cunning, strategy and tactics.... However, against the military machine of Russia, numbers DO count! Don't forget Putin will always win a war of attrition against a smaller foe, so the longer it is drawn out, the more likely Russia will get the upper hand just because of money and numbers. UKR's only chance is if it can destabilise Putin's stranglehold so much that his own military will take him out.
Ukraine has increased the rate at which Russians are being lost to attrition. Ukraine is so far doing this without heavy losses of their own... I suspect the Kursk offensive changes to defensive as soon as that attrition ratio changes... it has not yet. I believe we are about to see another front opened up in Belgorod to repeat the successes from Kursk all over again.
Agreed, the Ukrainians basically took the Russian defense lines to use as their own. Genius, really. Not to even mention the currently invisible aftershocks that this is going permeate through the quasi mafia hierarchy that is Russia.
TY guys!👍😊awesome report,insights,analysis..yes you are superheros indeed😊..keep up with the great work,appriciate a lot..talke care guys.Slava Ukraini🇺🇦💙💛🇸🇪👍
@SiliconCurtain - The synergy that your combined guests bring in these "round tables" (or in today's parlance... perhaps, more accurately, "rectangular screens") has been truly really excellent... Thank you.
Thank you for this discussion. So interesting to hear these perspectives from JP, Macer & Shaun. Anderss Puck Nielsen in 'Ukraine can face a bigger Russian army' made the point that Ukraine must defend a much longer border & frontline, while Russia only has to defend the frontline. With the Kursk invasion, Russia now has to spread their resources along the whole border & frontline as well. Slava Ukraini! 💙💛
Russia Siberian and Caucasus empire will be lost as a result of The failed invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇦. Russia has many other neighbors who have a lot to gain from a failed state. Too bad…
@33:15 ... My Father's side of my family is *far* from unfamiliar to living under a dictatorship... My father was born in Oslo, Norway, in 1930, and so he was a young teen during the Nazi occupation of his country. (almost all references you will find call this the ‘German’ occupation… my father understood otherwise… in my early youth, here in Western Canada, most of our closest friends were German) He never spoke much about his experiences of that time, as I was growing up. But in my early teens, I had the opportunity to travel with him to Norway, and the rest of Europe, for about six weeks. The first three weeks, we spent in Norway, in and near Oslo. visiting with his family and close friends. During that time, he spoke to me about things he had never shared before... I REMEMBER... ... the moment he pointed toward a street intersection, and said, "I saw an SS officer shoot a man in the street up there." I REMEMBER... ... the moment, stopping, after crossing a footbridge in an Oslo park, and my father telling me, "I was running to get home after curfew, when a German soldier stopped me here at gunpoint... suddenly an old man with a cane stepped out of the darkness, pulled a sword from his cane, and disarmed the soldier, and I ran home." My namesake and great-uncle, Gunnar Edvard Rode Heiberg (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunnar_Heiberg), together with his brother Jacob, a patron of the arts and culture, (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Vilhelm_Rode_Heiberg) were the primary negotiators who brought about the peaceful separation of Norway from Sweden in 1905 (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_union_between_Norway_and_Sweden). (Side note: Gunnar was also a close personal friend of Edvard Munch, the painter of “The Scream”) My Grandfather was, for a period of time, the Director of the Norwegian National Theatre (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Heiberg) This is all to say that because of our family’s political and cultural influence within Norway at the time, they were under close scrutiny by the NAZI’s and, apparently, a few of those (who were not immediate to my own family), were even executed (some were industrialists and business leaders, etc.). In all cases, whatever wealth they had was almost entirely appropriated by the NAZI’s. THIS is a major reason Norway became a founding member of NATO; and THIS is why we all must ensure that Ukraine is victorious… ALL forms of dictatorship and autocracy must be resisted. Slava Ukraini🇺🇦 from Canada🇨🇦
The only thing missing in this interview is a few beers. 4 people just talking views and expanding their ideas and views. Really good episode. And will let Jono know on silicone curtain know too. 👍👍
15:35 In 2023 Ukraine has formed up to eighteen new brigades, only four of them took part in so called counteroffensive that never happened. In 2024 Ukraine has formed fourteen more brigades, which numbers double the size of Ukrainian ground forces comparing with 2022. Meaning that Ukraine is ready for a real offensive with about thirty fresh brigades in reserve, so the Kursk incursion is only a tip of iceberg.
Echo your thoughts. There's been a long arse discussions on the AFU planning, shaping and offensive opportunities. There's more pending, the Ukrainians are going to show the World what they are all about. S
Love to hear from folk, how will the Orcs get these large concentration of troops, munitions and armor to the areas where they will be in the position to try and push the Brynask and Kursk Oblasts without those Orc conveys being HIMAR'd and Droned on arrival.
I think the great thing about this Kursk operation is that it enables several different progressions. I am sure russia has no capability to anticipate what these are, and putin is running out of time. The pressure this has put on the criminals is very impressive. SLAVA UKRAINI !
Forcing khulo’s troops to move back and forth is a way to assess their logistics, puts them out on open roads where they are easier to attack and it just burns through more fuel.
A very interesting discussion, all great people. The essence of Ukraine is its innovation and ability to surprise: Hostomel, Snake Island, the Kirch Bridge explosion, the Kharkhiv run and recovery, the sinking of the Moskva, the sea drones. Nobody thought they would attack Russia inside Russia. We all assumed the border was set in stone. Thank you for a very informed discussion.
Love this channel! You always bring solid facts, solid discussion. Thank you for your service in keeping us informed. --from Arizona, The Battleground State #TeamHarrisWalz #CochiseCountySupervisor Candidate
Very good... I appreciated. In fact this long format is necessary to enter enough deep in the questions yu are suggesting. And 2 Or 3 long points of.view provide something worthiest than short sentences after short sentences. Finally as in other sources I understand (even if I followed daylong the conflict since 2 years and more...) that the situation relatively optimistic for ukraine. I saw fractures... Well let say "cracks" widening slowly for Russia and with this invasion of kyrsk region truly changed. Am glad för ukrainians and personal consedering Xi and Ramodi lightly retracting their support to putine... Russia economic situation.. European countries ferm agreement to provide aids to ukr... The failure of bricks policy putine expected... And the way of acting ( better say slow moves & lack of initiative) in this weird mood which is, so caracteristic of general chaotic russian army forces... Yes.. Am relatively optimistic and bet 3 months ago putine could begin to face true issues end of this year... At worst beginning of 2025...before end of winter. We 'll see. Tks for this long vid...
Another 'Council of Jonathans' !. Very good insight from Shaun and Macer as practicalists with the theoreticians mostly asking the questions. I think that's how you get the best picture, both from the small and the big perspective, as quite often it is difficult to make those two match.
Trump is sinking fast as putins submarine and vance is an additional anchor. Thats why trump is worried about the shark vs battery conundrum! Slaava Ukraini 🇺🇦🇺🇸😊
Zelenski is quite brilliant, he had these discussions at NATO meetings. He totally got backing for these actions, although he kept all plans secret intentionally.
My personal bonus from today's great interview is "having kittens", I didn't know this expression before. It sounds so cute, more than it should according to its meaning.😃
